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@jessicarosinregisteredpsyc6096

3 жыл бұрын

Great video :)!

@sunset33533

3 жыл бұрын

Do a book review on the self-help satire "You Suck" by Paulie Amigo. It's always trending in the Amazon Kindle book Counseling category.

@vyvii3293

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this, I've been wondering this for a while, and my initial impressions were that one diagnoses and one doesn't, and I'm keen to avoid diagnosing as a professional, although recognise that that needs to exist too. The values of counselling psychology really speaks to me - the humanistic and pluralistic approach. I'm still working towards my BSc, but looking already at MSc and Doctorates and I want to get a clear idea of where my choices will get me. Do you have any advice for BSc psychology/counselling graduates in terms of finding suitable work that would lead to good experience for applying for MSc/Doctorate courses?

I’m going to try and get my doctorate in clinical psychologist that’s my dream for a career

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

All the best buddy!!

@jessicarosinregisteredpsyc6096

3 жыл бұрын

Ahh I love this, I am a psychologist, you will absolutely love your journey. Good luck, follow my channel you may find it helpful as well! Good luck my dear, don't give up on your dream!

@mushtaquepsychologist4932

2 жыл бұрын

@@jessicarosinregisteredpsyc6096 ❣️

I just wanna take away some of your books on the shelf 😂😂

@GetPsyched

5 жыл бұрын

hahahahaha, I do a lot of recommendations on Instagram. You should check them out

@ontheflymonkey

4 жыл бұрын

@@GetPsyched I would enjoy following you on Instagram, however what is the name of your page please? (There are many getpsyched pages out there!)

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

@@ontheflymonkey its @_getpsyched_

@terrasolaris5104

4 жыл бұрын

*cough cough* b-ok.org *cough cough*

@rqexo719

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 me to

Currently looking into Master's Programs in the US. In various articles I understood Counseling Psych to be focused on day-to-day issues/"temporary" issues (dealing w divorce, adapting to new environment, etc.) and Clinical Psych being focused on "long term medical issues" (depression, bipolar, DID, etc.). Thank you for the additional information to tell them apart and touching on the fact that one is not better than the other. They both serve their own purpose in their own way.

"Try not to limit yourself with funding and money when becoming a psychologist" Me living in America:

Really great, fair and balanced video. I currently work as an assistant psychologist, and have worked with both clinical and counselling psychologists, and even I really struggle to pinpoint any obvious differences. As you say there is so much overlap. I will say though, my best experience of supervision was with a counselling psychologist. It is really unfair for clinical psychology to often to be put on a pedestal, particularly in the NHS. We need to work together!

One of the best videos I’ve watched to clarify misconceptions and ambiguities. Well done 👍

This was immensely helpful in my career decision! Thank you so much for posting such an informative video!

@ilovesubway26

3 жыл бұрын

So which did you choose haha

Just got an undergrad clinical psychology to start September! Excited to start. Hoping to do a doctorate and then perhaps specialise in clinical neuropsychology. I’ve always been fascinated in the brain, it’s behaviour and anatomy. I think this is a fantastic route.

Thanks for your wonderful posts regarding similarities and differences in counselling psychology versus clinical psychology. I've been through both training and I pretty much enjoyed the counselling psychology frames most specially the more rigorous reflective practice, therapy process orientation, and pluralistic style of psychological interventions.

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

Ryan San Diego thanks so much for your feedback and input. Your experiences sound amazing! Delighted you enjoyed the video!

This is a truly informative video, very useful. Two comments: First, I understand that Clinical Psychologists can make diagnoses using the DSM-5 but Counselling Psychologists are not legally permitted to do so. Second, I also understand that Clinical Psychology is driven by an illness narrative, while Counselling Psychology is driven by a Humanistic narrative. I regard these two distinctions are worth pointing out.

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

Really helpful, thanks for this Pat!

@NC-it2ws

3 жыл бұрын

Hey pat, you pinned it! This is the key difference! Thanks for highlighting.

3 жыл бұрын

@@NC-it2ws Thank you. Stay safe and healthy.

@bluetides2

3 жыл бұрын

Pat, your first point is incorrect. Both counseling and clinical psychologist can diagnose with the dsm5. In fact, you don't need a PhD degree to diagnose. A master's level licenced counseling therapist can legally diagnose ( All licenced masters level therapist can diagnose including social workers).

3 жыл бұрын

@@bluetides2 Each country has their own unique professional standards of practice. In the British Isles, and possibly mainland Europe (?), it is clinical psychologists, at Ph.D. level, who can only legally 'diagnose'. Maybe 'GetPsyched' might clarify this?

Really interesting, IMO it is good to have these conversations.

@GetPsyched

5 жыл бұрын

Delighted you enjoyed it. Yeh I totally agree

Thank you SO MUCH for this video. I really want to become a psychotherapist but I'd also like to maintain my research background. So this video has helped me so much! Thanks again

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

Amazing! Delighted it helped you out!

Thank you for posting this video. I hadn't thought too much on the difference in counselling psychology and clinical psychology until I began study. My contribution, I would say having a good definition of counselling and who can council is probably going to be beneficial. Its difficult to identify the difference between both, (beneficial for the client).

Great video. Great job contextualizing the differences between the various disciplines. As you refer to the amalgamation of the cohorts, this make me more comfortable with going with the counseling psychology.

After watching this vid I can safely say I now understand better the differences between counselling and clinical psychology

I really want to be a clinical psychologist so here I am👋🏻

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

Amazing! All the very best!!!

Tom with MS in Counseling Psychology. A lot depends on your academic training and employment situation.

I've recently decided to pursue my PsyD!

You make a valid point about identification of sub fields not being useful to the client... so taking that further, if “we” (Psychologists) can’t even agree on which sub field does what within psychology, how can we expect clients to understand the difference when they’re looking for help? I have met many many people who have no idea what the difference is between Psychologist, Psychiatrist, Psychotherapist, or Counsellor; often they think they’re “basically the same thing”, never mind all the different types of Psychologist’s. I’m just a psychology undergrad right now, and I already picked up on a great deal of “superiority complex” like language within the field. I believe a simplification of identity to perhaps “Applied/Therapeutic Psychologist” and “Theoretical/Experimental Psychologist” might be more useful to the end clients when they’re trying to navigate which kind of Psychologist is right for them. I appreciate those don’t necessarily capture all aspects of what any given Psychologist does, but the identity is more important for the client than it is for the practitioners. Assuming we all just want to help people in some way.

A great video- thank you for clarifying!

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome

I don't have the Psychology degree. I took life and lived experience, hitting 40 and deciding to get over my fears to study DipCBT. Therefore making me psychotherapist rather than psychologist. I often wonder how much I've missed out on by taking this route and hope to be able to afford the degree course at some point in the future. Your videos are really helpful and I do have an immense respect for all Psychologists - without you, psychotherapy would not be as it is.

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

Very kind of you, wishing you all the best in the future.

@kieransimpson4965

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Anglea, how are things? I too am in my 40s and considering going into the field. Have you started to work as a psychotherapist? best, kieran

@RockDove5212

4 ай бұрын

Mrs McCafferty, was your DipCBT accredited by BABCP? I'm trying to switch from an education background (BA Hons English Literature and PGCertEd) to counselling psychology or psycotherapy. Currently, studying Level 4 Dip in Counselling to qualify and be BACP registered counsellor but don't know how to progress further. Seems for a lot of CBT certificates,diplomas and degrees you have to already be a health professional to access. Could you give more information about yours? 😊

Super interesting! Also from Scotland! I'm just about to change career into psychology - starting with a MSc Psyc. Master's conversion and trying to understand my future. It does feel like the 'holy grail' in the industry is clinical psychology, even though I am more drawn towards counselling psychology. Thanks so much for your valuable video - following your work now.

@xtashamariax

3 жыл бұрын

If you don't mind me asking, what is the career you were leaving to do this? :)

@msheldon10

2 жыл бұрын

I completed my conversion masters earlier this year. Hard work but well worth it.

Thank you, your in debth descriptions have been helpful to me as a Humanistic Counsellor (not Psychologist) 😊

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

Amazing! delighted you enjoyed it!

I believe that its a good idea to retain the titles, however, the amalgamation of clinical/counseling psychologist would be good. Having a psychologist who are able to both understand how to help move someone from having malignant EUPD symptom to having high functioning EUPD symptoms or no symptoms at all ; but also being able to help that person see themselves as an individual. Because at the end of the day everybody and every brain is different, people need different things, but certain approaches work better for some diagnosis and don't work as well with others. When I earn my degree I would like to be one of those clinical/counseling psychologist.

Counseling psychology doctorate all the way!!!! Thank you!

Great video! So it seems like there’s a stigma and u get a bit more kudos for being a clinical psychologist but in reality the counselling psychologist is making more difference as they are ‘on the ground/in the field’ with the people helping directly whilst the clinical person is just summarising your notes and doing reports etc. I really wanted to become a psychologist and have my own practise and focus on being a nature psychologist, and also hope to specialise with use of psychedelics.

@carle8267

3 жыл бұрын

Im sceptical of anybody who wants to experiment on people,dont care how good your intentions are

I was wondering about the differences and this video popped up on my feed! ps Can you please make a roleplay counseling session for Anxiety?

Glad I came across this video and get clarification between counselling and clinical psychology. I think a distinct difference between clinical psychology and counselling psychology is that clinical psychologists are trained to develop leadership skills to support the organisational aspects of NHS services. Clinical psychologists‘ training aren’t focused primarily on the ability to deliver 1:1 therapy, but to also develop the indirect clinical skills of promoting psychological informed thinking for other healthcare professionals through supervision, consultation, teaching, and training. This also includes using the reflective-scientist practitioner framework and co-production on improving snd shaping services as your career progresses. I think another difference is the placements itself whereby trainee clinical psychologists will have placements working with service users across the lifespan and various conditions (ie children and adolescences, working age adults, learning difficulties, older adults plus a unique specialist area such as forensics, complex trauma, psychosis etc ), whereas counselling psychologists have more of a choice in where they would like to develop their competencies given that they will have to find their own placements. I think it’s a myth that clinical psychologists follow the medical model as all of the dclinpsy courses teach about the limitations of the medical approach and issues using diagnoses (eg Lucy Johnstone, clinical psychologist, and her campaign on eliminating diagnoses as the marker for treatment pathways; this includes the power threat meaning framework recently published under BPS). But yes, definitely lots of overlap that you wonderfully outlined! Another aim within clinical psychology is promoting trauma informed care across the healthcare services and moving away from medical diagnoses and approaches in explaining people’s mental health difficulties that may perpetuate and stigmatise people’s experiences of trauma. Of course, this is just my view as I’m still trying to see whether there are any clear distinctions between the two!

@cjmarren86

3 жыл бұрын

There's no distinction between clinical and counselling psychologists in terms of leadership abilities; to suggest clinical psychologists are more suited to it is either insulting or suggests a real lack of knowledge, depending on how you intended it. My own experience is that counselling psychologists tend to have a higher level of development for psychotherapeutic work, whether one-to-one or in a group format. Counselling psychologists also use the reflective scientist practitioner model in all their work, it is not exclusive to clinical psychology. As for placements, clinical psychology placements tend to be more in number but shorter in duration; however, many counselling psychology doctorates offer the same placement options as clinical psychology doctorate programmes. In Ireland, the public health service (HSE) offer placements to both disciplines across all facets and levels of the health service. You are again incorrect to suggest there is a disparity with placement options and the provision of specialities. I would also put forth the immense importance placed upon personal development within the counselling psychology training programme, alongside the expected professional development. This impacts to a significant degree in a positive manner in terms of the psychologist being able to work to wider and deeper limits of client presentation and distress, as well as practitioner well-being.

@Gazza844

3 жыл бұрын

@@cjmarren86 I think it's your interpretation of my thoughts. Look closely at my wording, I sounded tentative instead of firmly stating the distinctions between the disciplines as "correct". 1 - I never said that clinical psychologists are "more suited" to leadership abilities. I said the DClinPsy programmes teach trainees to develop leadership skills within an NHS setting. that's not suggesting anything about the counselling doctorate. 2 - Just in case you did misinterpret again - I never implied that counselling psychologists do not use the reflective-scientist practitioner model. 3- I know previous trainee counselling psychologists who stated that they are expected to find their own placements - perhaps it was specific to their course. However, I said that counselling psychologist programmes (as far as I'm aware) allows trainees more choice in where they would choose their placements - of course it is expected that Universities will offer placements to guide the trainees... I suggest you find a more humble way of expressing your views, particularly to help both disciplines to come together rather than being discouraging.

@cjmarren86

3 жыл бұрын

​@@Gazza844 I think that if your writing is so open to interpretation, then I would recommend you spend longer clarifying your points so they truly convey what you wish to convey. Nonetheless, I'll address your points: 1: You said, " I think a distinct difference between clinical psychology and counselling psychology is that clinical psychologists are trained to develop leadership skills to support the organisational aspects of NHS services." The use of the words "distinct difference" of course imply that clinical psychologists are trained in this, WITH THE DISCTINT DIFFERENCE BEING that counselling psychologists are not. If your point was intended to simply be that clinical psychologists receive this training and you are not aware of whether it is part of the counselling psychology programmes, then I would suggest you do not refer to differences. 2: You stated, "Clinical psychologists‘ training aren’t focused primarily on the ability to deliver 1:1 therapy, but to also develop the indirect clinical skills of promoting psychological informed thinking for other healthcare professionals through supervision, consultation, teaching, and training. This also includes using the reflective-scientist practitioner framework and co-production on improving snd shaping services as your career progresses." and then following this with "I think another difference is..." Of course, this point being sandwiched in between "a distinct difference" and "another difference" implies a difference. Once again, your writing is either incorrect or else so loosely worded that it is wildly open to interpretation. 3: You said, "I think another difference is the placements itself whereby trainee clinical psychologists will have placements working with service users across the lifespan and various conditions (ie children and adolescences, working age adults, learning difficulties, older adults plus a unique specialist area such as forensics, complex trauma, psychosis etc ), whereas counselling psychologists have more of a choice in where they would like to develop their competencies given that they will have to find their own placements." On this point, I am unaware of trainees being expected to find their own placements. The courses I am familiar with provide placements (again, most of which are offered by clinical psychology programmes) but I know that some are also open to considering placement locations if a trainee is interested in it; in this case, the trainee may liaise with the placement to see if a placement arrangement is possible. You are correct that counselling psychology trainees likely have more choice over their training and placement trajectory. I suggest you write your future responses with more accurate wording and increased knowledge, along with being clearer when being tentative. By doing so, you will likely publish less fractious responses, and "help both disciplines to come together rather than being discouraging."

@Gazza844

3 жыл бұрын

@@cjmarren86 I’m not gonna “spend longer” over a KZread comment. It’s KZread...just chill out... don’t be so offended. As I said be more humble.

In Australia a clinical psychologist is extra 2 years of masters study required. Whereas double major in psychology and counsellor to become a registered counsellor is 3 years. Clinical psychologists can get a Medicare provider number ie. Funded and counsellors can only become accredited through health insurance companies. Very sad as both are super qualified and tbh a counsellor is more practically based whereas clinical has so much to with academia. Good explanation mate you seem very passionate thankyou for helping inspiring me to do counselling

thank you so much for the video!

I love what NHS stands for and I would personally choose it over a private practice. Many people can't afford private therapy, especially the more acutely unwell and the disadvantaged. In my experience, many Clinical Psychologists have chosen this training exactly because it's in the NHS, and because they don't want anybody to be left behind because they can't afford help.

So informative thank you! And thank you for speaking up about the hierarchy between clinical and counselling psychology, I don't think it's right at all. It's actually one of the things and prevented me from applying for counselling - I'm already a minority in so many aspects, I don't now also want to be a minority in my career. But alas, I didn't get into clinical and now I'm actually feeling like counselling is a better fit for my personality and views. I care a lot about social issues and feel it's just not holistic enough to only focus on the individual or on pathology only without considering a wider social context.

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

Mellisa Fan thanks so much, means a lot. All the best with your future career

@mellisafan4470

4 жыл бұрын

@@GetPsyched Thanks so much!

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

@@mellisafan4470 you are very welcome

In American they have clinical counseling. I’ve done an incredible amount of research it would seem it reflects the value of the practitioner in which avenue they take. Either way no matter training the student will gather their own philosophy in their approach. I for one like the neuropsychology because I want to understand the relationship between brain and behavior and the influence. I’m looking more at the professor and their approach and philosophy before I fully commit to a program.

Thanks very helpful!

I feel that many people believe that a key difference between counselling and clinical psychology and psychologists is that clinical psychologists work with people who have "serious" mental health issues whereas counselling psychologists work more with the general public and those with mental health issues but who are functioning despite this. I wonder what you would think about this? I dont think it's quite true - of course clinical psychologists often do come into contact with patients who are suffering from severe/acute mental health issues due to the fact that most clinical psychologists are based in hospitals. However, there are counselling psychologists who specialise in/work in areas such as eating disorders (which have one of the highest mortality rates of all mental health conditions) and conversely there are clinical psychologists who also use their skills in private practice to help general public with non- medical conditions such as poor self esteem, bereavement etc. I feel that the main difference between counselling and clinical psychologists are that counselling psychologists specialise in counselling and delve deeper into the models and evidence bases behind this. Clinical psychologists also use therapy as a treatment method for patients e.g. CBT but they use it as just one tool in a wider toolbox. I feel like this depth vs breadth might be the easiest distinction to understand.

Its even harder to know which of the two you need... the only way I guess is to hire both

This was an excellent video! Thank you! I’m curious if you’ve done a video on the pros/cons of masters degrees in psychology and/or counseling vs a doctorate in psychology. I’m currently trying to decide whether to pursue a Psy D in counseling psychology, or simply a masters. Thank you!

@brandenhidalgo3873

2 жыл бұрын

I’m currently having the same debate with myself. I was accepted into a PsyD in clinical psychology, a MA in clinical psych, and a MS.Ed in mental health counseling. I was actually going to leave the same comment you did for the channel. I’m curious it know if you’ve made a decision yet?

@fatimabotello3037

Жыл бұрын

@@brandenhidalgo3873 What did you end up doing? :)

@brandenhidalgo3873

Жыл бұрын

@@fatimabotello3037 Thanks for asking. I decided to decline the offer for the MA in clinical psychology, defer my enrollment in the MS.Ed in Mental Health Counseling for a year, and accepted the offer to the Psy.D in Clinical Psychology. I did this in order to have a back up plan in place if I decided I did not like the doctoral program for whatever reason after my first year. However, I just finished my spring semester of my first year and I’m happy with my decision to go the doctorate route. Let me know if you have any questions!

Yes makes total sense to me i think im at the time of my life that ill be the best at this type of work. Big UP Seasiders people

I am a USA dual PhD Clinical Psychologist and PhD NeuroPsychologist earned my degrees in APA accredited programs in addition to Residency, and 3 PostDoctoral Fellowships.

@danaewade2935

4 жыл бұрын

Your career is literally my dream. I’m currently in a counseling master but dream of my PhD in clinical psychology and neuropsychology. Any tips on applying to programs that include both clinical psych and a neuropsych concentration?

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome!

Really enjoyed your video on Counselling Psychology. Helps my understanding and confirms my preference for Counselling over Clinical.

I went to counseling sessions for almost 2 years and they didn’t help at all. It was like talking to a regular person on the street who is willing to listen. Don’t get me wrong, some people on the street are amazing to talk to but I just didn’t experience anything amazing. The counselors I’ve been to just listened to me.

@NC-it2ws

3 жыл бұрын

I understand. Lot of people feel this way. This is a grey area. Counseling skills are greatly driven by individual's style. Roughly, Passive-trait therapist may be inclined to more of listening & allow you more to take the lead and an active-trait one may tend to push you to a transformative change. Some benefit from the prior and some from the latter. So it will be worthwhile to choose a counselor based on recommendations and reviews so that you understand whom you are going to take help before you decide to do it. Plus, it is very essential that you report to your counselor whether it is helping you or not, so that the necessary changes are implemented at the right time.

@Lauren_Fields

3 жыл бұрын

I agree - went years with different counselors because it was free. Didn’t do much. I was helped more by clinical psychologists. They were better at handling pathologies.

@mel7ist

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you had Humanistic counselling which isn’t affective for you. Maybe you needed a different approach such as CBT which is more goal based.

Great information, even though I just realized it was posted a few years ago. I'm from the US and your video popped up when I was looking into any difference between qualifications overseas for Clinical Psychologist. I personally have my grad degree in Clinical Psychology with an added specialization in Clinical Counseling. After watching your video, I was curious if that is something that is offered overseas? Can you be both, like I am here in the states? I appreciated the way you analyzed the two fields. I do believe for my own career, and study they are two sides of the same coin. I could not imagine my career without one or the other in reference to education and/or approach to psychology. Great video!

I think the more information the client can have about the practitioner the better. So it helps to distinguish between areas of psychology, via names/titles, but all are equal. My ideal would be to be a counselling psychologist but too many obstacles at my age really I suspect geographically , family etc.

What's the best way to start on this path. I am trying to find a college and some introductory course as it seems I would need that before before I could join a proper university. What's your advice please ?

What would you recommend one should study for a counseling masters interview?

I just came across this video because I am interested in being a psychologist. My masters is actually in counseling and personnel services but not to be a therapist or a certified I guess counselor. I will say I am looking more into counseling psychology now because of the private settings and they are found more in universities. My degree specifically focuses on working with college students. I will also say since I am from America the courses for counseling psychology are funded.

your videos are superb!

Thank you for this great video! I was just wondering how you funded your doctorate in counselling psychology

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

I took out a loan and i work along side it

Loved the video! Firstly, you're the first Scottish person I've watched do a psychology video which was exciting because I'm Scottish too! haha Secondly, this was very informative. I wanted to go for Clinical Psychology but it's because I was told by a psychologist that there is a bias in employment, that a clinical psychologist is more likely to be employed.. is this true? I've also been told that Psychologists don't diagnose, you mentioned that they may agree with a diagnosis, does this mean they agree with patterns of symptoms or are they allowed to give diagnoses?

@GetPsyched

5 жыл бұрын

Ah, that's amazing, always nice to connect with a fellow Scot. Regarding your question, it really depends on what you want to do. In truth, I would actually disagree with the psychologist's point in the fact that many of the top psychology jobs in the NHS are taken up by counselling psychologists. In truth, the NHS is perhaps more likely to go for clinical psychologists based on the direct NHS placement experience that all clinical psychologists get, that doesn't mean counselling psychologists can't get jobs in the NHS. Outwith the NHS I really don't think there is any difference regarding bias for jobs.

@Anna-909

5 жыл бұрын

@@GetPsyched thank you for your reply it is very much appreciated :)

@GetPsyched

5 жыл бұрын

@@Anna-909 You are very welcome indeed! Make sure to stay tuned and subscribe to GetPsyched for weekly content, you can also follow us on Instagram @_getpsyched_

I think the amalgamation of different applied psychology disciplines is not necessarily a good thing. I think counselling, clinical, health and forensic all offer unique and equally valuable perspectives, and are best served in working together rather than homogenising into a single profession. Just my two pence on the matter! (From a trainee clinical psychologist)

Thanks for this video! You explained everything really well.

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

You are very very welcome!

This is a helpful one. Am doing my masters and unable to decide between clinical and counseling coz as you said, it's overlapping. My question is-On the long run as a practitioner does one loses out on opportunity and career growth in either of them. If yes,why?

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

I would say that there isn't a massive difference in career progression and expectation. You'll often find online that clinical is paid more and have higher position in the NHS, but that really isn't true in reality.

I’m about to enrol for my master’s in counseling Psychology, and I need some introductory reading materials, to help me get acquainted. My Undergraduate degree was in Political science, so my knowledge in Psychology is a very shallow one.

Frustrating part of this is that I align more with counselling psychology than clinical but in Australia the government subsidises clinical psychology so you get paid way more doing clinical.

This was such an informative video I found it really beneficial! I understand the main differences between the two, but I'm still unsure what I want to become. I've got a degree in psychology and I'm considering being a counselling psychologist, clinical psychologist and also just a counsellor. They all sound so appealing I don't know what to do. I won't exactly be able to get on either doctorate with just an undergraduate degree, so I'm also considering giving counselling a shot and do a level 2 certificate to get a feel of it. But wouldn't that be a lower qualification? Every time I think I know what I want to do, I choose another one of the 3 again

@GetPsyched

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for your feedback. its a hard one for sure. I would say you need to try a lot of things before you can decide. Your counselling qualification idea sounds good, yeh it will take longer but it might be worth it

@starryeyed06

3 жыл бұрын

GetPsyched yeah that’s true I definitely need to try a few things before I can know for sure. Thank you for your response I might give the counselling qualification a go

Hi if I do a degree in psychology and counselling would I still be able to go on to be a CLINICAL psychologist by taking my dectorate in clinical psychology without doing a conversion course , thank you

You asked about the amalgamation of Counseling/Clinical Psychology. In the context of UK (with the current structure of NHS about mental health) it is more beneficial and feasible to keep these distinct. That's because it gives more people in training more opportunities of gaining access to practice at each level of severity. Personally, I do not see how defining the level of severity should be putting clinical psychology higher on a pedestal, because, let's be clear, not every psychologist WANTS to deal with severe psychopathology everyday. Keeping them distinct (as UK does, so far) has the benefit of providing educational programs more directly involved with relevant skills and directed to relevant knowledge. However, it creates a complicated pathway to therapy for clients (the current NHS structure). For example, when you need the police, you call 112 and the phone operator directs you to the appropriate person, you don't need to know the name of the category of crime you're experiencing.

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

Very interesting points here. You make a really good argument. I think more and more people are thinking that an amalgamation will be considered in the future. Whether it really happens or not is still up in the air.

This video was so informative, thank you. I'd love to do counselling psychology but don't know I would afford it. Can you get paid placements?

@GetPsyched

3 жыл бұрын

So happy to hear that. You can get paid placements yeh. I would advise you really do your homework on where they are though and who offers them.

Hi - I am currently doing an undergrad in Psych with the OU and am finding myself pulled towards counselling psychology PHD. Are you studying in Glasgow?

I am on a psychology conversion MSc and there definitely seems to be a view that it is somehow harder to train as a Clinical Psychologist than a Counselling Psychologist because there is a higher statistics and neuroscience element. Id love to hear your thoughts on this stereotype? Thank you for the great Video.

@GetPsyched

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Melissa, thanks for your comment. I know what you mean, I’ve heard the same before. I don’t think that just because there is a more statistical and neuroscience element means that the clinical course would be harder and therefore superior. Largely because for some people, statistics and neuroscience is easier to absorb and the therapeutic stuff is harder. Also, counselling psychology has a statistical and neuroscience consideration too, these things are not reserved only for clinical. Like you say, there is a lot of misconceptions and untrue stereotypes

@melissagimson1910

5 жыл бұрын

@@GetPsyched thanks for your reply. I would love to hear more about how strong the statistical requirements are on the counselling doctorate. I think the fact that Clinpsys have entry tests makes it seem like the other courses dont have a statistical focus. I love research but quantitative is not my comfort area so it would be great to get a sense of the level required (generally) across learning and placement. Thank you for your videos, they are providing valuable guidance!

@GetPsyched

5 жыл бұрын

It’s a good question. I think initially there is not much of a focus on quantitative or statistical components when applying for the counselling psychology doctorate. However, there is a full semester and exam on statistics and quantities measures during the first year of studies at my university. It perhaps is not the same amount as the clinical doctorate but it is there.

@melissagimson1910

5 жыл бұрын

@@GetPsyched thank you.

What other ways are there to fund counselling psychology?

Thanks a lot, but honestly, I guess that after watching ur video, I kinda had the impression that one of them is favoured or have been demonstrated as better than the other XD (Can anyone guess which one?). And that the different perspectives and appreciation of what diagnosis actually means and all could be a harsh price for the clients/patients to pay 8-P

Hi sir...great explanation.. Sir one doubt..please clear sir.. 1.can we work as a psycologist in hospitals if we finish MSC/MA alone...or should we do doctorate to work hospitals..

Can I become a counseling psychology with a clinical psychology degree?

Thanks for the video, it is indeed very insightful. I just would like to ask you if you know how to get help (financial) to pursue the Counselling Psychology route.

@cjmarren86

3 жыл бұрын

Until equal funding is provided (and it is bordering on criminal that it is not yet), you'll need to consider savings, loans, part time work during studies, help from family, friends or partners, grants and student hardship funds.

I have a plan to learn my masters degree on psychology which one is best for aprson who have first degree by clinical pharmacy

*Sir I want to be a Therapist also and a Researcher also. So that means I should go for Counselling Psychology yeah?* Also tell me after completing Masters Degree in Counselling Psychology what should I do to become more advanced? I am in School right now ;) Thanks💐

In which fields can the psychological counselor do a master's degree?

If I become a clinical psychologist can I also work as a counsellor who deals with general well being ?

Hi, I’m from the US and currently enrolled in a Clinical Mental Health Masters Program. I am considering doing a PhD or Psy.D. and after watching your video it seems like I would be interested in Counseling Psychology. But I’m still not sure how both Clinical Psychology and Counseling Psychology are different from a Counselor Education PhD.

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

smileyface425 thanks so much for your question. This is a tough question as aim not really familiar with the US system. I do know that with a PhD, your work will be primarily research based, whereas with a taught doctorate like counselling psychology it’ll be much more practical based

@GiShinso

4 жыл бұрын

With counselor education you will be intensively studying supervision models and how to effectively train masters level counselors in the counseling track, not psychology as these are two different fields. You will primarily doing research, teaching master level students, and giving supervision

Hi i am doing my masters in clinical psychology, in need to know about some therapy diploma or certificate courses

Hello. I'm interested in counseling psychology, should I choose B.A. or B.S.?

I really want to be qualified in forensics on a clinical side but I do believe as somebody who has had mental health issues, that there should be an amalgamation of clinic and counselling as I found as a previous patient, is that there is far too much assessment and especially within the nhs but that counselling psychology would be good if you could ideally have a perspective of both as a qualified psychologist? Is there a pathway that means you could do both but at different levels of the doctorate path in psychology?

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

Thats a really interesting point. Right now there is no such path but I do know some people that are both counselling psychologists and clinical psychologists. That takes a lot of years of studying though

@anthonydonohoe4104

4 жыл бұрын

GetPsyched finally I’ve realised my goals, I’m someone people would almost see me as the poster child’, I’ve keen interests in art practices and also the journey I’ve been on & its inevitable revelations, I believe when we stop so much focus on limitations and concentrating on development and growth is what is key, a particular nhs trust I was under could in the community offer 4-6 sessions of general psychology and yet therapeutic rapports take time to build and personality disorder treatment are often ongoing and sometimes can run up to two years as it’s a process within healing. Unfortunately our societies models in regard to mental health and health & social care are not fit for purpose, lacking specialities and for some reason it can feel like people understand what treatment needs are but actually meeting those needs... I believe in rehabilitation from many different angles is always good as that gives patients time to put the psychological strategies in place and over a period of time.... you see growth..... there is still human decency in this world when not made to feel disposable that then is nurturing

Can I ask what school/program you attended? Was it an M.A+Ph.D program or did you go through two different programs (graduated with a masters, then applied and graduated from a doctoral program)?

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

so I did a graduate diploma in psychology and went on to do the counselling psychology course which is a masters and doctorate combined

@jaye5373

4 жыл бұрын

GetPsyched thanks for the speedy reply! I’m looking into integrated courses that combine both, would you say that it is “easier” to go through a combined program as opposed to two separate ones? Not as in actual difficulty but in terms of not having to apply to programs twice.

Hello sir I want to get admission in Msc Clinical Psychology in UK ,please guide me about institutions of Clinical Psychology where should I get admission

Hi! How competitive do you think the DCoP is compared to Dclin? Also, may I ask what your experience was prior to acceptance onto the DCoP?

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

It can still be just as competitive. the clinical psychology is probably more so due to the salary that is attached. However, the counselling psychology doctorate is just as competitive I feel. My experience beforehand was I worked as ana assistant psychologist, support worker, telephone counselling and health care support worker. Hope that is helpful.

@robinwong8880

4 жыл бұрын

@@GetPsyched Thank you for your reply. Just in terms of difficulty, I'm worried that the course may be a bit too much for me. I achieved a 67% at undergrad, but did not do an MSc. Is there a large number of people on your course that have not done a MSc? Worried that I'll struggle even if I do get onto a course! Thank you.

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

@@robinwong8880 I really wouldnt worry about that. Although I did well in my second psychology degree (a graduate diploma), I almost failed my first degree and was nearly chucked out by the university. I didn't have a masters going into the doctorate and there are loads that were in the same position as me. Youve done well with a 67. I really think you could manage it

@robinwong8880

4 жыл бұрын

GetPsyched thank you so much for your reply. You’ve given me a lot of assurance! Thank you for your help and Good luck with your journey; I’m sure you will continue to be a great clinician and support to aspiring psychologists!

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

@@robinwong8880 Thats brillaint! Thanks so much for your kind words, I really appreciate it. All the very best with your developing career and make sure to stay connected with us!

Iam an indian girl studing counseling psychology in 2nd as psychology subject

@mahalakshmi5521

3 жыл бұрын

2year subject

It’s a good idea ....

One of my biggest worries is my age. I am 27 years old and would probably not be admitted into a program until I was 28 or 29. Is this too late to start that journey? My undergraduate degree in Psychology is already out of the way. And do I need to have a masters or can I go straight for a doctorate?

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

I am on a doctorate where people started in their 40's and 50's. You are not too old what so ever so don't worry. Just focus on getting some good experience. Many of the doctorates are masters and doctorate combined, so you shouldn't "need" a masters to enter although it might help if the course you are applying for is highly competitive. I didn't have a masters when I got accepted on to the doctorate.

@Trilzk

3 жыл бұрын

I’m in the same situation, I’m 28 and worry a lot about it as the journey is so long. Did you decide to do it in the end?

@cjmarren86

3 жыл бұрын

I started my journey into Psychology with a conversion H. Dip at 27. Was accepted onto the Doctorate in Counselling Psychology at age 31. Will qualify just after turning 35. It's never too late.

@mel7ist

3 жыл бұрын

I am 41age is nothing but a number! and hopefully will start a counselling doctorate in 2021!!

I absolutely love this video, I think your journey is amazing and people will find it very helpful. I can't wait to watch more of you keep up the great work, follow my channel as well I am just starting on KZread as a psychologist. I love your definition of the difference in counselling and clinical psychology, great insight for people especially for people to truly understand where they need to get help! Again, great video, great works!

Good Video. I'm not sure that the point that you are trying to make is worth making. Let's say that your car will not run. You don't know what's wrong with it so you take it to a garage. The mechanic tells you that he put your car on his machine and the read-out found the problem: 2 of your spark plug wires were off. Now, let's say that you took your car to another garage that didn't have a machine. You tell that mechanic the same story. The mechanic tells you to start your car and let him listen to it run. After the mechanic hears your engine running he informs you that you have 2 loose spark plug wires. Now, both garages found your cars trouble. The point that I am making here is if neither garage found what your car's trouble was you would of had to take it to another garage until you found out its problem. Whether you are a hi-tech psychologist or a hands on therapist if you can tell your patients what loose with them then you will have a good business, but if you can't, then they will end up going to another garage. FR.

Thankyou for this video, I LOVE what you have talked about on both ends. I am in the middle and have no idea which way to go in my schooling. I want to work as a Mental Health Clinician however I also want to be able to have my own private practice in the long term. I have worked in a company that does ABA therapy and I admire, love and respect the clinical aspect of my work. But I also love that my company balances both clinical and counseling psychology. I have been leaning more towards the counseling Psychology end, but your video actually got me thinking more about the clinical.

I am dyslexic can I do counselling psychology

can you become a child counseling psychologist with a psyd counseling psychology degree ?

@jenno5555

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

Seems like DCounsPsy is a bit easier to get on to if it can be afforded, but get to work in the NHS faster.

@mel7ist

3 жыл бұрын

You can get Student finance now for doctorates!

I don't have a GCSE on Psychology , can I still get in to it

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

Robert Webber you still should be fine without a GCSE. You need an undergraduate degree in psychology though

@robertwebber7239

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@eleanormason2647

3 жыл бұрын

@@robertwebber7239 you don't necessarily need an undergraduate degree in psychology, as long as you do a master's conversion course that confers the graduate basis for chartered membership. An undergraduate degree will give you this on its own, but if you come to that career path having already done an undergraduate in something else it can still work

@robertwebber7239

3 жыл бұрын

@@eleanormason2647 thanks

With undergraduate counselling psychology what jobs can I do, time is running I am 41 years

@cjmarren86

3 жыл бұрын

I don't believe there are undergraduate qualifications in Counselling Psychology; in the UK and Ireland, the training is doctoral level.

Just curious... what is the speaker's accent? Cheers

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

Scottish :)

@MrBlaksteen

4 жыл бұрын

@@GetPsyched sure. Reminds me a bit Fish accent. Marillion singer. He was born in Edinburgh or not far from. Thanks for response and for interesting material.

Where are you studying your Doctorate? :)

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

In glasgow

@rw5477

4 жыл бұрын

@@GetPsyched that's cool! I'm hopefully going to be applying to the GCU program for September 2021 :)

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

@@rw5477 Thats where I am based. All the very best with it

All I could think was: "He's so handsome"

4 жыл бұрын

Lady Donna, I love your honesty! It must be difficult for you that you can only look but not touch! 😉😉😉 This is the ancient Garden of Eden story! Stay safe and healthy.

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

hahhahaha

I dont have any undergraduate degree in psychology, is there any course who are interested in psycology?

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

Sumiya Sumi unfortunately you’ll need a psychology undergraduate degree if you want to pursue a career in psychology

@sumiyasumi2775

4 жыл бұрын

@@GetPsyched can i know the duration of the undergraduate degree in psychology?

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

Sumiya Sumi the duration is normally around 4 years

@sally9805

3 жыл бұрын

In some universities in the UK, they will accept other degrees as long as you pass with a 2:1 and maybe some work experience in the field.

@cjmarren86

3 жыл бұрын

There are also some conversion courses available.

Just wanna add that for Ph.D., it's the scientist-practitioner model; but for Psy.D, its the scholar-practitioner model.

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

that's not always the case. I'm on a Psy.D and we title is the scientist practitioner model. I dont think they are any different though tbh

@enchidai8558

4 жыл бұрын

@@GetPsyched Technically, there are differences. PhD is Boulder-model and PsyD is Vail-model. But that doesn't limit what you can do as a psychologist. Of course, you can be an active researcher in a Psy.D program, but that's not why it was created for the first place. Ranging from 1-7 (1 being focusing on practice and 7 being focusing on research), most PsyD program ranges from 1-4, and most phD program ranges from 4-7.

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

Enchi Dai that’s perhaps perceptions based on where you are. It’ll be different in the UK

@enchidai8558

4 жыл бұрын

@@GetPsyched That's not my perceptions but yah this is the fact in the USA.

Hi, how are you paying for your Phd and am I right in thinking clinical get paid more? cheers

@GetPsyched

5 жыл бұрын

It's a long story but I managed to develop a placement programme with an organisation in my city that I developed for a year and a half with the CEO. The programme allows trainees to get paid as they train. That's helped a lot, but I have also taken out a loan. IN the UK, during training, clinical psychologists get paid £26,000 a year to train. COunselling psychologists don't get paid anything. There is a really big difference.

@freddiemacgregor2956

5 жыл бұрын

@@GetPsyched Thanks replying. is there a reason counselling psychologists do not get paid for training? For your Phd did you have to do a year of work experience? How hard is it to get a placement? trying to set realistic expectations of if i go into this line of work when i would be able to be offically quaLIFIED. `Cheers

@GetPsyched

5 жыл бұрын

Freddie MacGregor it’s largely to do with the fact that the NHS have called out for a need for more clinical psychologists. Again, it’s a long story and very controversial because largely, counselling psychologists can do everything that clinical does too. However, the funded route that clinical psychologist take will not be funded for long. Placements are very easy to come by for counselling psychologists and you can expect the same kind of salary for counselling as clinical get when you qualify

@freddiemacgregor2956

5 жыл бұрын

@@GetPsyched Are clinical placements easy to come by as well? why are they easy to come by, i would of thought they were hard as Phds are competitive? are they msotly paid or voluntary'

Clinical psychologist always end up counselling

Your pronounce was very fast we understand lately and sometimes not understand 😌

Hii...how much money does it to become a clinical psychologist ( undergrad+post grad+doctorate) ? Help please

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

If you are studying in the UK then you actually get paid to do the clinical psychology course, it won't cost you. if you look at doing the counselling psychology course, it may cost up to £15,000

@goforitp4737

4 жыл бұрын

@@GetPsyched thank you so much! 😊😊

@GetPsyched

4 жыл бұрын

@@goforitp4737 You are very welcome

@mamatananda2935

3 жыл бұрын

@@GetPsyched can you suggest me Institutions for clinical psychology

Very involved in his accent lol

kindly explain in urdu

I hve to research counseling psychology in the USA I don’t think we hve that I believe it’s either your a research psyc (PhD) or clinical psych (psyD)