The Difference Between A Musician And An Entertainer

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Evgeny Kissin and Lang Lang playing
La Campanella
by Franz Liszt (1851)
based on a theme by Niccolò Paganini
0:00 Evgeny Kissing playing
at the Royal Albert Hall, London, August 1997
4:16 Lang Lang playing
at the National Centre for the Performing Arts, Beijing, December 2012

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  • @rosariorusso
    @rosariorusso Жыл бұрын

    We probably forget that Liszt himself was one of the biggest entertainer of his own epoch!

  • @liavasoni2153

    @liavasoni2153

    11 ай бұрын

    Of course he was! Including his compositions! And maybe the main business of the video is to make this thing "forget".

  • @MrLewis-lk8us

    @MrLewis-lk8us

    11 ай бұрын

    Liszt was both

  • @liavasoni2153

    @liavasoni2153

    10 ай бұрын

    @@MrLewis-lk8us - The point here is just that you can't be this and that at the same time. So the problem is a bit sensitive...

  • @druntopronto7598

    @druntopronto7598

    10 ай бұрын

    Liszt was everything but not an entertainer. He was a philosopher not a clown. you have so desperately low IQ.

  • @druntopronto7598

    @druntopronto7598

    10 ай бұрын

    @@liavasoni2153 another idiot, who doesn't know anything about Liszt and his compositions. STFup

  • @posravishtasp
    @posravishtasp8 ай бұрын

    You sir, are the entertainer and those two are the musicians

  • @williamtaittinger4529

    @williamtaittinger4529

    6 ай бұрын

    you misspelled CLOWN. Huge respect to Lang and Kissin, tho.

  • @lifewalker808

    @lifewalker808

    6 ай бұрын

    @@williamtaittinger4529 No need for such hate mate. Worth to note Lang Lang is like a rockstar to the Chinese audience. Obviously his performance here was towards a more general audience. He played differently towards the classical music community and laymen. Huge lookdown upon Lang Lang if one thinks he's just an entertainer. Lang is such an amazing pianist, one of the best of our times.

  • @williamtaittinger4529

    @williamtaittinger4529

    6 ай бұрын

    where is the "hate" my man? such a strong word for nothing. who do you think I "hate"? the CLOWN? Dont hate him, just find him funny. I have no hate my heart, mate, maybe youre just projecting.@@lifewalker808

  • @tyrellcobb4665

    @tyrellcobb4665

    6 ай бұрын

    @@lifewalker808 If you listen to the performance I think the poster is saying Kissin is the entertainer and Lang Lang the musician. Kissin's performance is spectacular with no subtlety. Lang lang's is more thoughtful with a wider tonal and dynamic range on top of similarly amazing technique as kissin's.

  • @harshitm.

    @harshitm.

    3 ай бұрын

    best reply dude

  • @RVgeeks
    @RVgeeks6 ай бұрын

    I've been fortunate to see both Kissin (April, 2022) and Lang Lang (Sept, 2023) here in Vancouver, BC. I had always felt that Kissin is an incredibly pure musician, and Lang Lang a bit more of a showman. But after seeing them both, I can say that IMHO they are BOTH remarkable. To be fair to Lang Lang, try closing your eyes, and just listen. Much of his reputation for being "an entertainer" is likely based on his mannerisms and facial expressions as he plays. We were sitting off at an angle behind him during his incredible performance of Bach's Goldberg Variations, where we could not see his face at all. It was a truly stunning performance, with no visuals to detract from the music. After that experience, I have a newfound (and profound) respect for Lang Lang's musicianship, and can't imagine anyone dismissing him as anything less than one of the finest pianists in the world. I'm also a big fan of Trifonov and Lisiecki (whom I've seen live FIVE times)! It's wonderful that there is so much fantastic classical music to experience!

  • @bbpyb

    @bbpyb

    6 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing your experiences and your insight. 🙏👍

  • @user-xg4ot7yl4q

    @user-xg4ot7yl4q

    5 ай бұрын

    I’ve listened to them both as well, Lang lang is no comparison to Kissin. I’d say it’s nothing about his gestures or facial expressions, it’s the music and sometimes scabrous techniques that turn ppl off.

  • @arturtarnowski4023

    @arturtarnowski4023

    5 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I agree. Even if sometimes just don’t like Lang Langs play, you are right. It’s sth people repeat after others. Heifetz didn’t have entertainment skills enough, lang lang has too much… and these people sit and judge at home being frustrated after their career ended playing in bars or being critic (analyser instead player)

  • @tacizettinkocabulluk

    @tacizettinkocabulluk

    5 ай бұрын

    closed my eyes and still sounds like trash

  • @nathan8348

    @nathan8348

    4 ай бұрын

    I can’t agree with you more, they both are great musicians.

  • @nathan8348
    @nathan83484 ай бұрын

    🎹 I was on the site when Langlang played this piece of music and I can tell that Langlang was misunderstood by so many people in this scenario, including the uploader calling him as a so-called entertainer. 😅 Actually, this was purely an extra piece of music requested by all audiences in the concert hall after Langlang had finished all his scheduled pieces. As most of the audiences were so much indulged in Langlang’s play, they all requested Langlang to stay and play one more piece, therefore Langlang stayed and fulfilled the audiences, and as this is a play which was not previously planned, as such he did not have to be playing in that much of an official way therefore he played it with more joy and playfulness to make all audiences happy and relaxed as an extra piece. This is why you can see he was so relaxed and sometimes looked unofficial when playing it. However before this piece his facial expressions/gestures/body movements were quite different as those being played were the officially scheduled pieces and Langlang played quite “officially”. Therefore, calling Langlang as an entertainer without really knowing the true story is so disrespectful and sort of disgusting. And even Langlang was playing this with joy and ease, his talent and superb control of techniques has made it so so enjoyable to listen to. Both he and Kissin are true great musicians, and you can not be that biased.

  • @e.l.2734

    @e.l.2734

    Ай бұрын

    He's a gent like that! Never vain but a true artist. I believe your story.

  • @nathan8348

    @nathan8348

    Ай бұрын

    @@e.l.2734 Thank you E.L 🤝

  • @Track_id

    @Track_id

    Ай бұрын

    Nicely said!

  • @nanthilrodriguez

    @nanthilrodriguez

    14 күн бұрын

    That's just called an encore mate

  • @szdxw
    @szdxw Жыл бұрын

    Aside rom the exagerate gestures, i dont like a lots of lang lang’s interpretation but he has a perfect technique and a great understanding of each pieces. Saying he isn’t a real musician is really disrespectful.

  • @mariapap8962

    @mariapap8962

    Жыл бұрын

    Totally agree!

  • @DankChallenger

    @DankChallenger

    Жыл бұрын

    No its true, Bang Bang is no musician

  • @BabyDontHurtMe420

    @BabyDontHurtMe420

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DankChallenger you should have a bit of more respect you know? Not any of us are even remotely close to his level of playing, and if he does it differently with his sense of humour, then you should respect that too

  • @gabrielbrewster202

    @gabrielbrewster202

    Жыл бұрын

    Since when are entertainers considered inferior to musicians.? Entertainer means you wowed (entertained) the listener and suggests all rounded approach.

  • @parkerschmitt1594

    @parkerschmitt1594

    Жыл бұрын

    He doesn't though! Lang Lang makes lots of mistakes!

  • @steventran7865
    @steventran7865 Жыл бұрын

    LL spent most of his childhood and teenage years giving "correct" interpretations at competitions and recitals. Dude is just chilling at this point lmao

  • @EricLeePiano

    @EricLeePiano

    Жыл бұрын

    hey i remember u from ucsd piano club :D

  • @antspiano1378

    @antspiano1378

    Жыл бұрын

    I don’t but this comment is sure darn funni

  • @jeffjames15

    @jeffjames15

    Жыл бұрын

    this is legitimate

  • @GraceAnnCummingsInsideTheMusic

    @GraceAnnCummingsInsideTheMusic

    Жыл бұрын

    It takes incredible discipline to perform this so well and pass it off as "easy and fun" .... which is just as musical as profundity and emotional sensitivity. Liszt is so VAST in his expression. There's plenty of room for trite to glorious rapture to profound awe.

  • @GraceAnnCummingsInsideTheMusic

    @GraceAnnCummingsInsideTheMusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Competition in music is stupid. Music is built on comparisons , so to weed out a "best" is to start ruining the richness that music has to offer.

  • @namele55777
    @namele557778 ай бұрын

    lang lang shows like he's having so much fun. you can't dismiss his technical proficiency and you can't fault him for sharing the joy with the audience.

  • @captainp.2721

    @captainp.2721

    3 ай бұрын

    Lots of people don't understand that music is art and it is an expression of the soul. The greatest of all time, Beethoven himself said " to play a wrong note is okay. To play without fire is unforgivable" I forgot the exact word. By fire he meant bravado/soul/excitement

  • @Cellod98

    @Cellod98

    3 ай бұрын

    @@captainp.2721there’s a difference when said passion is genuine. Lang-Lang is incredibly fake and cringey with his over-the-top gestures. And frankly, his performance lacks integrity and musicianship, things he sacrifices to look cool for the audience. At this point, you are no longer serving the composer, instrument, or music - you are serving yourself. And that is the greatest crime a musician can commit

  • @captainp.2721

    @captainp.2721

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Cellod98 what did you expect he's Chinese. They don't have a soul. Just social credit.

  • @Cristiano_Ronald0

    @Cristiano_Ronald0

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@Cellod98I'm pretty sure you don't know him, you didn't talk to him, you've never saw him in a private concert for you. Tf do you know about his passion? Lmao, not all musicians and persons are like you, sir. If u want a robot to play your piano it's ok, but no need to be mean to Lang Lang, cause we all appreciate his work.

  • @scottsthaname1

    @scottsthaname1

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@Cellod98 have you ever performed music on stage?... I'll tell you what he was thinking..." uh huh... hit that note... let's get some intensity going...oh yeah... caught that note perfect... slow it down slow it down... bring it back... OK... let's jamn out the end...YEEEEESSSS GOT IT"... but maybe I'm just not psychic enough...🤷‍♂️

  • @somethingthatexists4797
    @somethingthatexists47977 ай бұрын

    I think both “musician” and “entertainer” are titles to be proud of, not to mention they’re far from being mutually exclusive. Both people in this video played beautifully and are astonishing artists!

  • @matthiasbasler8634
    @matthiasbasler8634 Жыл бұрын

    Two pianists with different personality. What a big pleasure to enjoy both .

  • @Ldoeoni

    @Ldoeoni

    Жыл бұрын

    can’t agree more👍

  • @vincent-ataramaniko

    @vincent-ataramaniko

    Жыл бұрын

    It's impossible to enjoy lang lang I'm sorry.

  • @matthiasbasler8634

    @matthiasbasler8634

    Жыл бұрын

    @@vincent-ataramaniko why can't you? And why sorry?

  • @magictime7482

    @magictime7482

    Жыл бұрын

    @@matthiasbasler8634He means he didn’t like how langlang plays. I didn’t like langlangs performance in this video too. It’s just a little bit strange.

  • @matthiasbasler8634

    @matthiasbasler8634

    Жыл бұрын

    @@magictime7482 ok. So we can watch something else while listening😅 When I close my eyes, Gould is ok for me too😁

  • @fredkron001
    @fredkron001 Жыл бұрын

    You forget that Liszt was a master entertainer. They are playing a Liszt showpiece, aren’t they?

  • @vmdp8790

    @vmdp8790

    Жыл бұрын

    ikr

  • @bekhruzniyazov6600

    @bekhruzniyazov6600

    Жыл бұрын

    Lang Lang plays other composers that way as well

  • @armandel6576

    @armandel6576

    Жыл бұрын

    What you said.

  • @Theantmang

    @Theantmang

    Жыл бұрын

    literally title just says difference in ENTERTAINER AND Musician .. nothing bad about either.

  • @shuatock8216

    @shuatock8216

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Theantmang I get the point being made, but I think it’s unfair to say Lang Lang is any less an incredible musician than Kissin. Disliking the showmanship of him is understandable, but it doesn’t change how awesome his technique and interpretations are

  • @keithandalisonhead8221
    @keithandalisonhead82218 ай бұрын

    Kissing's performance is the first time I've heard the "bells" in this piece. Amazing deicate touch.

  • @baselqt5651

    @baselqt5651

    8 ай бұрын

    kissin* you should hear chopin's 4 impromptus by him and then you will know that he's the best :)

  • @user-fp4mi9vj7b

    @user-fp4mi9vj7b

    5 ай бұрын

    kissin. not kissing

  • @BloodThirstyMedic

    @BloodThirstyMedic

    3 ай бұрын

    probably autocorrect@@user-fp4mi9vj7b

  • @LISZT-

    @LISZT-

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@user-fp4mi9vj7b💋

  • @Camaink1
    @Camaink18 ай бұрын

    Lets take a minute to appreciate the great sounding piano Evgeny is playing!

  • @e.l.2734

    @e.l.2734

    Ай бұрын

    My God, I even forgot to breathe! What a divine sound.

  • @empireentertainmentevents1353
    @empireentertainmentevents1353 Жыл бұрын

    For LISZT to compose such a breath taking piece based on Paganini's theme is really extraordinary. Composers such as Liszt are gifts to mankind.

  • @davidtinoco2484

    @davidtinoco2484

    Жыл бұрын

    Watch Interstella 5555 from Daft Punk. It will all make sense 😉

  • @kpokpojiji

    @kpokpojiji

    Жыл бұрын

    I would have loved to hear Liszt himself play this.

  • @feeenux

    @feeenux

    Жыл бұрын

    Liszt...a gift to mankind. I like that. I like that alot.

  • @obiwan88

    @obiwan88

    Жыл бұрын

    Winner of Sir Knight of Obvious Beyond Obvious Award.

  • @organboi

    @organboi

    Жыл бұрын

    Liszt was an utter master, just like Bach and the rest. It's not his fault if pianists often play his works without respect for the composer, but rather only for their egos. Every piece is a glorious work of genius, and if there happens to be virtuosic elements, even those are all perfect and astonishingly musical. There isn't a single note he ever wrote just for the sake of "showing off." This is what shallow Liszt critics don't realize. All great masters who wrote for the piano have written virtuosic passages, but all perfectly part of the whole. Even in his most "flashy" pieces such as Don Juan. Thank you for appreciating his gift to the world.

  • @dora71803
    @dora71803 Жыл бұрын

    Two great interpretations, Kissin the purest, the classicist, the benchmark. Unkind to dismiss Lang Lang as solely an entertainer, he's way too good.

  • @_Snix

    @_Snix

    Жыл бұрын

    @@julianparge I find it funny that you say “it wasn’t written to be performed like that”, because that’s not always the case with classical music. Liszt was the pop star of his time. He was to the 1800s what the Beatles were to the 1900s. He was infamous for the facial expressions and “unnecessary” movements he made while performing. There was even an instance where he performed the first movement of moonlight sonata where he added trills and arpeggios of his own to “wow” the audience, and although it’s debatable wether or not that’s a good thing, he has apologized for that. More importantly, though, it highlights his personality as a virtuoso and as a performer. La Campanella, like many of his other fancy compositions, was written with this exact goal in mind; to “wow” the audience. It’s said that Liszt’s virtuosity made the audience cheer and clap mid-performance. Obviously I don’t have to add that it’s not necessarily always good to perform this way, but in this piece, as well as many others by Liszt I actually appreciate the expressiveness that Lang Lang brings while performing because it truly allows a “glimpse into the past” if that makes sense.

  • @nicholasboros6079

    @nicholasboros6079

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@julianparge Complaining about showiness in La Campanella is hilarious. My dude, the piece is designed to be showy. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

  • @itooflemma

    @itooflemma

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@julianparge hmm.. you don't think pagani or the self claimed paganini of the piano liszt wouldn't have played his piece bit non purist 😂

  • @CoolJay77

    @CoolJay77

    Жыл бұрын

    @@itooflemmaYour triple negatives are confusing.It seems like you are stating that Liszt would have played in a purist way.

  • @adamcolbertmusic

    @adamcolbertmusic

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@julianparge What you said about closing your eyes and listening is the most important thing! The whole aspect of stage appearance and stage presence etc certainly add to the overall final product - and if looks meant nothing to them then they wouldn't wear tuxedos instead of casual clothes (surely nobody thinks that better clothes inherently make for better music) - but music is ultimately about what you HEAR. So just close your eyes and let your ears be the judge! 👍 I want to add to what you say about there being 2 different types of musicians. There are multiple "2 different types of musicians" 😉 Not just purists/traditional vs modern, but also those who play exactly as the composer wrote the dynamics and those who make their own interpretations, also those who play the exact same thing each time and those who are spontaneous and go with the flow. All of these "this or that" dichotomies overlap of course, so I'm just agreeing with you that there are different perspectives and approaches that musicians take when learning and performing a piece. As long as no two musicians sound exactly like each other, then that is the important thing!

  • @Mariobrownio1989
    @Mariobrownio19894 ай бұрын

    I listened to both audio only and found I enjoyed Lang Lang's performance more. It was more fluid and dynamic, while the first one was more mechanical

  • @khong5413

    @khong5413

    3 ай бұрын

    Well said.

  • @michaelbell5984
    @michaelbell5984 Жыл бұрын

    Both brilliant interpretations interpretations. When Kissin plays, it's exciting as it seems difficult and he is concentrating hard and seems on the edge. When Lang Lang plays it seems so ridiculously effortless that you just marvel at the ease with which he plays it and, for me, I enjoy his playfulness and the fun he has with it.

  • @argi0774

    @argi0774

    Жыл бұрын

    Honestly, I don't care at all if he has "fun and playfulness" or not

  • @alex1stamford779

    @alex1stamford779

    Жыл бұрын

    @@argi0774 Okay? And? Nobody is talking about what argi0774 cares about.

  • @argi0774

    @argi0774

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alex1stamford779 But everybody cares about what some "Alex Stamford" thinks or not right? Because an average idiot like "Alex Stamford" is so interesting right?

  • @medardoarce9361

    @medardoarce9361

    Жыл бұрын

    Come on LL's performance Is brilliant

  • @argi0774

    @argi0774

    Жыл бұрын

    @@medardoarce9361 His clownlike acting not so much

  • @lightball1414
    @lightball1414 Жыл бұрын

    I saw Lang Lang play a Beethoven piano concerto with the Seattle symphony. He walked on stage, played the piece like any other concert pianist, bowed and that was about it. No excessive flashiness, stage smoke, or even an encore. It certainly wasn’t what I was expecting after seeing his popular online videos.

  • @1fattyfatman

    @1fattyfatman

    Жыл бұрын

    I saw what was likely that Seatle performance and it was a like watching someone phonetically sound out a language for which they were unfamiliar. A trainwreck.

  • @irener.3849

    @irener.3849

    Жыл бұрын

    Why the disdain for encores? Kissin always plays them. It’s actually an old tradition of Russian musicians to be generous with encores, a sign of respect towards listeners.

  • @costaspapadolias

    @costaspapadolias

    Жыл бұрын

    m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/e4dnktupmNLfZZM.html#dialog

  • @foresthills2425

    @foresthills2425

    Жыл бұрын

    I saw Lang Lang at Tomorrowland. He was great

  • @vanjavanja3905

    @vanjavanja3905

    Жыл бұрын

    BLA BLA BLA AND BLA ....

  • @andersencastaneda6080
    @andersencastaneda6080 Жыл бұрын

    Both are very unique pianists with great technique and sound. Will be extremely boring if all pianist in the world plays any masterpiece with the same dynamics, ligatures, pedal color, or intensity. You can't compare Barenboim, Argerich, Rubinstein, Richter, Arrau, Czifra, Tsujii, Lang, or Kissin. All of them are amazing pianists, and you only have to enjoy them.

  • @rusticagenerica

    @rusticagenerica

    Жыл бұрын

    One of them seems to be an entertainer.

  • @peace-now

    @peace-now

    Жыл бұрын

    You forgot Tatum, Horowitz, Ashkenazy and Rachmaninoff.

  • @themoonfleesthroughclouds

    @themoonfleesthroughclouds

    11 ай бұрын

    I don’t think Lang Lang belongs on a list with Richter, Cziffra or Argerich tbh.

  • @isaacgonzalez9354

    @isaacgonzalez9354

    11 ай бұрын

    @@peace-now I would just add another one to the list: Gilels

  • @rsplante

    @rsplante

    11 ай бұрын

    @@isaacgonzalez9354 I would also addd Murray Paraih, Van Cliburn and Valentima Lisitsa. I agree that Lang Lang is too showy for me; however, when he is serious as in his performance of Chopin's first piano concerto, he surprised me.

  • @mysterx4931
    @mysterx49319 ай бұрын

    Quels que soient les points de vue ces 2 pianistes sont exceptionnels de virtuosité et de sensibilité ! Franz Liszt est l’un des musiciens les plus difficiles à jouer au monde … donc admiration pour ces 2 interprètes 👍👍👍

  • @matthewwilliams5201
    @matthewwilliams52017 ай бұрын

    Both extraordinary. I didn’t realise at first that the intention was to deride LL as the entertainer, which in the case of Liszt performance is surely a key aspect of the composer’s intention.

  • @heribertodiegolopez6167
    @heribertodiegolopez6167 Жыл бұрын

    I think this piece was written to show the dexterity of the pianist, and that's what both of the did. Liszt did it himself, nothing bad of that, in my opinion

  • @ssurreal_tqoke5298

    @ssurreal_tqoke5298

    Жыл бұрын

    well i mean thats what an ‘etude’ is; it both improves the player’s ability and is also like a sort of ‘bragging rights’ sorts thing like how playing insanely high on a trumpet is

  • @kevinliu4797
    @kevinliu4797 Жыл бұрын

    Liszt was a entertainer and a showman in every way when he concertized. I don't know why audiences would not want to be entertained.

  • @tsangalvan6215

    @tsangalvan6215

    Жыл бұрын

    So true. Literally music is music and you can’t compare it will so called “showmanship”. Expressing your true self through playing an instrument (performing) is a form of respect towards music.

  • @Itibitydetsku

    @Itibitydetsku

    Жыл бұрын

    True

  • @birddoesnottalk1032

    @birddoesnottalk1032

    Жыл бұрын

    Rap music: Puts on a show, has fun, gets the audience involved. Classical: Ignores the audience, audience can't react to the music, is very pompous.

  • @Kaizeron

    @Kaizeron

    Жыл бұрын

    @@birddoesnottalk1032 ...so you say Lang Lang is a rapper? Man hasn't dropped any fire yet...

  • @birddoesnottalk1032

    @birddoesnottalk1032

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Kaizeron he doesnt even come close to rappers in terms of entertainment lol

  • @GottaloveLudvig
    @GottaloveLudvig Жыл бұрын

    OMG!! Doesn't that performance deserve a standing ovation? I stood to clap watching at home...

  • @aoznes
    @aoznes Жыл бұрын

    Lang Lang said this piece animated in a Tom&Jerry episode was the reason he became a pianist. Playing in London and playing in China is different, especially for him. He has every right to make the art of piano a little more fun in his home country. If he succeeds in his task, thousands of gifted young chinese musicians can be introduced to the world of music.

  • @rusticagenerica

    @rusticagenerica

    Жыл бұрын

    You an attract people to music by being a true Start in the sky and not being a clown.

  • @mootal2812

    @mootal2812

    Жыл бұрын

    Music is an art...There is no right or wrong how an art is expressed...Many great musicians artists were considered eccentric, critised and despised but years later were hailed as great achievers. Why? because our minds has come to pass all those traditional limitations and boundaries...

  • @maximecloutier1223

    @maximecloutier1223

    11 ай бұрын

    It was Hungarian Rhapsody no.2 that was animated in Tom&Jerry though.

  • @tomcutts9200

    @tomcutts9200

    10 ай бұрын

    @@maximecloutier1223 You are correct, though I can understand someone how someone gets them mixed up, since they've got kinda the same vibe.

  • @exmodule6323

    @exmodule6323

    8 ай бұрын

    I think thousands of more young Chinese prodigies are more than we can bare, thank you 😅

  • @adrianasd8
    @adrianasd8 Жыл бұрын

    As much as I don't like Lang Lang, his interpretation was (for the most part) actually valid. I think the difference is that Lang Lang sold himself as an entertainer on the media, showing up in talkshows etc. and of course, for most people, you need showmanship to please an audience (which doesn't mean that he doesn't deserve his fame in any way). This could be already seen as the audience of Kissin was more traditional, listening, then clapping; while Lang Lang's audience had no problem clapping during the piece, interacting with him.

  • @JustAnthon

    @JustAnthon

    Жыл бұрын

    This is a notable difference, I think many are missing. They probably don't get the same audience, which already reinforces the differenciation between "classic" musicians and "modern/entertaining" musicians.

  • @christopherbedford9897

    @christopherbedford9897

    Жыл бұрын

    Chinese audiences don't suffer from the applause taboo. You can't put that on the performer. Pavarotti in his memoir mentions being taken aback on his first visit to China, when he encountered applause in an aria every time he hit a top C, so eventually he got used to it.

  • @pascalpoussin1209

    @pascalpoussin1209

    Жыл бұрын

    Clapping in between is like in a jazz concert, or in the time when this music was written and probably the public "lived" closer to this musical expression.

  • @willo7979

    @willo7979

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JustAnthon Agree. LL plays according to his audience group. This one was one of his commercial performances at a local theatre, with mixed crowd, he certainly is entertaining the audience, than to keep with precision.

  • @burgerboi

    @burgerboi

    Жыл бұрын

    Who cares lang lang is better

  • @alecrechtiene558
    @alecrechtiene558 Жыл бұрын

    People give Lang Lang too hard of a time. Lang Lang is obviously an extremely talented pianist technically and gives very unique interpretations that may resonate differently with different people. Lang Lang knows the “rules,” he just chooses not to conform to the general norms and chooses to do what’s right for him. I think we need more pianists like Lang Lang that connect to the audience.

  • @animalsarebeautifulpeople3094

    @animalsarebeautifulpeople3094

    Жыл бұрын

    Sometimes LL has no soul and just cheap tricks. It's like watching a cheap melodrama that clearly manipulates your emotions in an obvious way. That might connect to the lowest common denominator but the connection isn't deep

  • @stephenr80

    @stephenr80

    Жыл бұрын

    like picasso

  • @dnuma5852

    @dnuma5852

    Жыл бұрын

    @@animalsarebeautifulpeople3094 its the opposite way most of the time, only that the cheap tricks for others are following (dumb) conventional standards.

  • @Midnight_Nyxez

    @Midnight_Nyxez

    Жыл бұрын

    I feel like that’s kinda racist tho lmao if your calling lang lang dumb and saying he has cheap tricks

  • @Midnight_Nyxez

    @Midnight_Nyxez

    Жыл бұрын

    @@animalsarebeautifulpeople3094 .

  • @ThomasNo.1
    @ThomasNo.16 ай бұрын

    The first performance is great. The second performance got me goosebumps - beyond great!

  • @jeyneo.8924

    @jeyneo.8924

    6 ай бұрын

    It was supposed to be the other way around. Both are magnificent of course.

  • @arcanios806

    @arcanios806

    3 ай бұрын

    Why?

  • @jeyneo.8924

    @jeyneo.8924

    3 ай бұрын

    @@arcanios806 well the technique is way better in the first one.

  • @nickm.4274

    @nickm.4274

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@jeyneo.8924 Lang Lang obviously has the technical skill to play as smoothly as Kissin, but thats not the point. This piece (as well as Liszt pieces is general) is about showmanship, and I think Lang Lang captured that style perfectly

  • @arcanios806

    @arcanios806

    3 ай бұрын

    @@nickm.4274 I don't think so at all. And it also doesn't matter how Liszt meant it to be. Composers often don't know what they have just done, what masterpieces they created. Not seldom they defy their own work (see Bruckner or Kafka)

  • @ambientsoundscapesasmr-vd7qg
    @ambientsoundscapesasmr-vd7qg Жыл бұрын

    Dang that’s amazing! The speed and accuracy is all on point! Awesome to see this level of dedication!

  • @michaelmennies1685
    @michaelmennies1685 Жыл бұрын

    Lang Lang is one of the world's great pianists, period. He absolutely has a fluid style and I get that it might not be to everyone's taste, but it is clear he has complete control over what he is doing and makes choices. As for how he looks on stage - if you don't like it, close your eyes. Interesting, last night I watched a video of Seymour Bernstein discussing Glenn Gould with similar criticism, he didn't like the choices Gould made, and even considered them a travesty, but ultimately his criticism of Gould seems to be that he thinks Gould was condescending and snide in his approach. Lang Lang clearly adores his audience.

  • @gordonstevens6050

    @gordonstevens6050

    Жыл бұрын

    Seymour Bernstein either doesnt understand the genius of Gould, or he is eaten up with jealousy

  • @Alessio216

    @Alessio216

    11 ай бұрын

    @@gordonstevens6050I like Gould, he doesn’t. We like music. Just a matter of different taste, isn’t it?

  • @user-gt7wo4kp5v

    @user-gt7wo4kp5v

    11 ай бұрын

    you have no idea what you're talking about do you?

  • @john_and_john

    @john_and_john

    28 күн бұрын

    i prefer yuja wang

  • @albertomartin4812
    @albertomartin4812 Жыл бұрын

    An applause in the middle of this piece was exactly what Liszt looking for, something that was totally lost during the twentieth century, and what Lang achieved here.

  • @ryzikx

    @ryzikx

    Жыл бұрын

    agreed, lisztomania was where its at!

  • @vincenzopandolfi7684

    @vincenzopandolfi7684

    Жыл бұрын

    Mentre il pianista suona non si applaude!. Da fastidio, il pezzo deve essere ascoltato tutto senza rumori ne tanto meno urla. Si interrompe il pezzo ed è irrispettoso per chi suona e per chi ascolta. Si applaude alla fine!.

  • @FleuveAlphee

    @FleuveAlphee

    Жыл бұрын

    @@vincenzopandolfi7684 It's like lectures: some lecturers do not mind being interrupted; many others do. As long as they do not stumble, is that SO important? You're free to enjoy recordings - not Glenn Gould's, so full of humming... - if privacy and meditative listening is what you care about (and you won't get those sneezes with studio recordings).

  • @vincenzopandolfi7684

    @vincenzopandolfi7684

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FleuveAlphee è una regola, quando si suona non si fa rumore , lo dico da pianista!. e ho spiegato anche il perchè nel commento precedente. Per cui il tuo commento è anche fuori luogo.

  • @hindenburg1596

    @hindenburg1596

    Жыл бұрын

    @@vincenzopandolfi7684 As a pianist I absolutely don't care if there is applause in the middle, the "rule" is nonsensical and irrelevant

  • @vincentliew4699
    @vincentliew4699 Жыл бұрын

    For me, I felt like LL broke the music piece down to a million pieces and reassembled it again to become solely his. Hence, the effortlessness. Kissin is too clinical for me. Its more than just mastery of the keyboard. More importantly, sublime mastery of the music itself. But both are great pianist. We can only dream of playing even 1% like either of them 😂

  • @pankakesnotstellar

    @pankakesnotstellar

    9 ай бұрын

    It's strange that for me it's exactly the contrary. Lang lang is the surgeon( I can abstract from his showmanship), and Kissin is the one who feels the music the most.

  • @interroga-te-ipsum

    @interroga-te-ipsum

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@pankakesnotstellarDito. I find much more intensity in Kissin's performance, too.

  • @alfredchan582

    @alfredchan582

    8 ай бұрын

    Lang Lang's performance of this piece, although technically perfect, is exaggerated and comical, which may not have been Liszt's original intention.

  • @tromboneman4517

    @tromboneman4517

    7 ай бұрын

    Both felt really effortless and easy to me.

  • @tyrellcobb4665

    @tyrellcobb4665

    6 ай бұрын

    I agree and I actually think the poster meant the opposite of what most people are expecting: Lang lang is the musician and Kissin the entertainer. I think they posted it deliberately without pointing out who's who to have fun watching people make comments based on their pre-judgement 😂

  • @carmenmoraesJesus
    @carmenmoraesJesus8 ай бұрын

    Even if both performances are gorgeous, this is the huge difference between them, it's so true. When you hear Kissin playing you feel the music with him, when you hear Lang Lang you are amazed by his skills, by him, because your attention is focused on him; hearing Kissin the music comes in first place, hearing Lang Lang skills and entrateiment are in first place. Thank you for sharing!

  • @kalashnikov2471

    @kalashnikov2471

    8 ай бұрын

    Lang Lang is all about himself but kissin makes you feel the 🎵 music

  • @VeroyMartin0810

    @VeroyMartin0810

    6 ай бұрын

    Hi! I don't agree with you, even without seeing them, listening only to the music, I still prefer Lang. I think it's a question of style, obviously they are both amazing. I would like playing like each one of them, but if I had to choose I prefer Lang. It's only a matter of taste I think...In addition I would like to say that the video tittle is disrespectful, it sound like Lang=clown. I didn't like it, I think they would be fair and recognize Lang as the great pianists he is.

  • @giampierogallo6264
    @giampierogallo6264 Жыл бұрын

    I'm a pianist and i can hardly believe how many people still dare to criticize such an outstanding artist like Lang Lang! He's not an entertainer! He is just an extremely fine artist, whose technique and sensitiveness allow him to do everything he wants at the piano! Just accept it !

  • @hoogreen

    @hoogreen

    Жыл бұрын

    agreed! some people just cant stand to see something "different" and rush in to put down whatever that is not normal

  • @flawlessyt_7080

    @flawlessyt_7080

    Жыл бұрын

    YES finally!

  • @WhiteArtsMagic

    @WhiteArtsMagic

    Жыл бұрын

    aRtIsT

  • @Setton1000

    @Setton1000

    Жыл бұрын

    Smaken är som baken delad med skiten emellan

  • @mhv8855

    @mhv8855

    Жыл бұрын

    Très bonne analyse...Je suis entièrement d'accord avec vous..Bonjour de " la France "...

  • @ME-lf7by
    @ME-lf7by Жыл бұрын

    Two excellent performances of this genious piece of music. One shouldn't judge.. one should enjoy. Most people cannot fathom the dedication that goes into performing sonething like this

  • @AnnaSergeevna-st6mt

    @AnnaSergeevna-st6mt

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh, I know how difficult it is. That's why I said earlier that I don't criticize someone who can do something I can't.

  • @smeraldoderosa7556

    @smeraldoderosa7556

    8 ай бұрын

    Ben detto!!!

  • @chrissansum

    @chrissansum

    8 ай бұрын

    Well said! Negative comments about something prepared to this level shows a combination of ignorance, lack of respect, unpleasantness and a fondness for spreading negativity. I was at the Kissin performance. This was just one of about 8 encores after a phenomenal performance of some substantial pieces. A real shame that not all of the recital was filmed. It was really one of those legendary performances that go down in history. Biggest proms audience ever too (they removed the stage and placed the piano in the middle of the hall with the audience surrounding it).

  • @windps1410
    @windps141011 ай бұрын

    As someone plays piano for decades, one would love the hailstorm type of audience applause, which would made your figures and everyone's souls dancing together as a true entertainer.

  • @Nanoduck
    @Nanoduck Жыл бұрын

    EK's performance of this piece is totally immortal, not a fair comparison to use la campanella - this piece is his playground. Completely inhuman.

  • @chester6343
    @chester6343 Жыл бұрын

    Always loved how EK manages to produce such a heavy sound but being crystal clear and retaining dynamic range, truly gifted pianist

  • @TheSubzeto

    @TheSubzeto

    Жыл бұрын

    Those 20k concert pianos surely helps

  • @chester6343

    @chester6343

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheSubzeto nearer 200k

  • @PP-wp2bx

    @PP-wp2bx

    Жыл бұрын

    When people applauded Liszt, they were applauding for his geniusness in creativity and musicality. When the Chinese audience clapped in the middle of the performance, they were laughing at the entertainment provided by LL as a clown, and not a musician. Use your brain, if you have one.

  • @TheSubzeto

    @TheSubzeto

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PP-wp2bx salty

  • @Haifllz

    @Haifllz

    Жыл бұрын

    me too

  • @mattsdpell5029
    @mattsdpell5029 Жыл бұрын

    While attending Barenboim's masterclass, Lang Lang was quite humble and respectful to the piece, whereas other pianists boasted their ego, in order to impress the master. Lang Lang is better than we commonly suppose

  • @christopherpi2010

    @christopherpi2010

    Жыл бұрын

    True mastery gives you that kind of flexibility that only comes across with dutiful respect of the craft. He is just finding the next step in connecting with people who are not studied in this art.

  • @mattsdpell5029

    @mattsdpell5029

    Жыл бұрын

    @@christopherpi2010 This is one of the best comment I've ever read. Thank you

  • @samdajellybeenie14

    @samdajellybeenie14

    Жыл бұрын

    One of my teachers in music school said “Say what you want about Lang Lang, but he could sure play me under the table any day of the week.” So if nothing else, he’s an excellent pianist.

  • @Jonem9

    @Jonem9

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree with the observation about Lang Lang in the Barenboim masterclass. I recall that he had the music on the stand and referred to it quite a lot whilst listening to and respecting Barenboim's wisdom.

  • @Historia_

    @Historia_

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@samdajellybeenie14 pretty sure kissin could too... this doesn't add to the discussion

  • @marjie012000
    @marjie012000 Жыл бұрын

    Loved them both. Two brilliant interpretations of a very difficult to play piece of music

  • @michaeltamul500
    @michaeltamul500 Жыл бұрын

    Wow! I am absolutely floored by Evgeny’s performance, sheer perfection! Every note was carefully considered, that ovation was well deserved!

  • @marcusbettina7543
    @marcusbettina7543 Жыл бұрын

    I don't understand those who comment negatively on lang, I didn't know him before now, but his technique is impeccable, he's extra talented (I'm a musician)... once said that, how one interprets is his own business. Does he exaggerate in gestures, is he in excess? honestly: he can do it. If I had his talent I would do the same, art is freedom , what the heck

  • @bellezaytalento9673

    @bellezaytalento9673

    Жыл бұрын

    If I don't like LL style,is not a negative comment,is just My opinion,

  • @michaelowens5394

    @michaelowens5394

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@bellezaytalento9673 The video title as much as states the Lang Lang is not a musician.

  • @andream.464
    @andream.464 Жыл бұрын

    Two extraordinary artists! No space for childish polemics!

  • @vp.3125

    @vp.3125

    Жыл бұрын

    there is always space for childish (and serious) polemics. Kissin is in another dimension. He is at the very top on the same level as the greatest masters that ever lived. Lang Lang's fingers are fast but musically I prefer Kissin's version.

  • @Kalemnos
    @Kalemnos11 ай бұрын

    Two différent interprétations of this master piece. Both of them so talented. What a performance!

  • @folliesofmen2628
    @folliesofmen262810 ай бұрын

    Well all musicians perform to entertain their audience. Lang Lang has obviously mastered the piece he could afford to be more expressive and interactive, which is great to anyone who goes to his concerts. Both technically impeccable just different interpretations

  • @charlexguitar
    @charlexguitar Жыл бұрын

    Two spirits who come from different cultural backgrounds, different approaches, both very talented.

  • @arcanios806

    @arcanios806

    3 ай бұрын

    The first has a real connection to the music. the second has more of a connection to his ego.

  • @dersg1freak
    @dersg1freak Жыл бұрын

    The title is harsh, that aside kissin has already corrupted my ears to the point where most interpretations just don't cut it for me.

  • @tarokan_nor

    @tarokan_nor

    Жыл бұрын

    my favourite pianist right now👍

  • @robbes7rh

    @robbes7rh

    Жыл бұрын

    “Corrupted your ears” is an odd way of saying you liked it. But I totally agree. Kissin plays with absolute precision and clarity on the one hand, and with great verve and panache on the other. The totality is a mesmerizing performance of this show stopper that would undoubtedly have given Franz Liszt great satisfaction.

  • @78pianist

    @78pianist

    Жыл бұрын

    I think the title is spot on.

  • @deedum1162

    @deedum1162

    Жыл бұрын

    explain 0:54

  • @78pianist

    @78pianist

    Жыл бұрын

    @@deedum1162 explain what??

  • @recuerdos2457
    @recuerdos2457 Жыл бұрын

    These two are equally accomplished and outstanding in their own ways. They are both artists and entertainers.

  • @mariasolidum1779
    @mariasolidum17799 ай бұрын

    They are both awesome. They do have different way how to delivery their expression of emotion toward playing the piece. It's matter of interpretation of by the Spectators or Audience.

  • @richardvolpe7664

    @richardvolpe7664

    6 ай бұрын

    I'd love to have it explained to me - - where in hell is the "emotion" in this showpiece?

  • @Ayrtsenna314
    @Ayrtsenna314 Жыл бұрын

    Liszt himself was known to rock his head back and forth and moving so drastically while playing that his sweat dripped on the audience…so if anything LangLang is doing the perfect interpretation of Liszt’s music and doing Liszt (master entertainer /rockstar) justice

  • @Arobamod

    @Arobamod

    Жыл бұрын

    I have to disagree. In my opinion, Cziffra does a better job at emulating Liszt’s personality and gestures

  • @GraceAnnCummingsInsideTheMusic

    @GraceAnnCummingsInsideTheMusic

    Жыл бұрын

    This is the FIRST TIME I ever heard about Liszt sweating and rocking back and forth. 🤔🤔🤔 WHERE did you get this trivia?

  • @gerardotejada2531

    @gerardotejada2531

    Жыл бұрын

    People forget how many of this Conposers were actually pretty Bohemian to the point of being actually rockstars. Sex, Drugs and Orchestal Music.

  • @classicalmusic432hz8

    @classicalmusic432hz8

    Жыл бұрын

    Compared to liszt Lang Lang would be subdued and nonchalant. So really what it comes down to how good the persons technique if they have bad technique and over exaggerated their movements then they deserve to be ridiculed but it's like criticizing someone's performance at sex when you yourself have a tiny 3" dick where Lang Langs would be 12" and liszts would be 14" so yeah if you see going to criticize Lang Lang then you can upload your recordings of the chopin etudes race 3 etc first otherwise stfu

  • @GraceAnnCummingsInsideTheMusic

    @GraceAnnCummingsInsideTheMusic

    Жыл бұрын

    @@classicalmusic432hz8 🤣

  • @santochow
    @santochow Жыл бұрын

    Two massive talents playing one of the most difficult piano pieces, with different interpretation. Nothing wrong with that. If you want a piece to be played in exact same intepretation, a machine can do that. Easily.

  • @pvandck

    @pvandck

    Жыл бұрын

    It's more of a party trick than really difficult, usually played as an encore. Lots of pianists play it very well. Slow music is often much trickier to play.

  • @yufanghsu1120

    @yufanghsu1120

    Жыл бұрын

    Totally agree.

  • @yetanotherpianist4449

    @yetanotherpianist4449

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pvandck True, like Chopin once said (if I remember it well); technique is something everyone can achieve by practicing but then comes a part, the emotional side of the music, which can't be learned or faked; you need to feel it.

  • @MrICR5

    @MrICR5

    Жыл бұрын

    No comparison... LL soulless. EK is a billion times more finesse.

  • @dariusmondolar

    @dariusmondolar

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MrICR5 bruh…

  • @Artificial-Fox
    @Artificial-Fox9 ай бұрын

    Lang Lang plays it so easy and cool and even faster, that he still has time to entertain 😄😄😄

  • @frithjofmeyer730

    @frithjofmeyer730

    3 ай бұрын

    But unfortunately the Music becomes flat then and looses space. Compare: 2:30 7:17

  • @aar498

    @aar498

    Күн бұрын

    Music is not a race.

  • @johnojvind7641
    @johnojvind76414 ай бұрын

    The first huy seems serious in his intense interpretation. The second guy plays as he was in a club showing off at their bar piano.

  • @rescuemethod
    @rescuemethod Жыл бұрын

    Both are awesome. I was distracted by LL's physical performance in the past but now I ignore that and appreciate how great his playing is

  • @mehdih776
    @mehdih776 Жыл бұрын

    Say what you want about Lang Lang, you can't deny he is a wonderful musician. In fact, he is so gifted that he can give a piece any interpretation he likes. On top of that, you can find several recordings of him playing by the book without exuberance.

  • @Xemptuous

    @Xemptuous

    Жыл бұрын

    That's not true. If anyone could play "any interpretation", there wouldn't be a difference between them. Lang Lang has mediocre interpretations imo, often focusing too much on emotional bombasity and flair. He's not on par with Zimmerman, Pollini, or Argerich for interpretations, but rather Lisitsa and Wang for skill and flair. I'm a composer, and i've had my pieces played by both types of performers. The Lang Lang types butcher the piece whereas the composer types do stuff that makes me think it may be a better interpretation than I myself would have originally thought of. Mrchanistic vs Expressive musicians is the distinction I typically draw, and ot comes from one's ability to listen actively to the original works, and freely convey ones inner self free from ego intervention. Given how asian and eastern-european parents typically treat their children, its no wonder they lack in the latter.

  • @paulh4828

    @paulh4828

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Xemptuous I guess your comparison with Yuja Wang is only racist... An Asian pianist... so what?? Doesn't she deserve to be listened to carefully before being judged only on her appearance? Yuja Wang's concert outfits and style may seem quite fanciful, but she is very rigorous with regard to the text, and her playing is in fact full of richness (not only technical, but of a musical order, in phrasing, mastery of sound, etc.) I invite you to carefully listen to her again before passing her off as a vulgar conjurer : close your eyes and open your ears, I'm pretty sure you'll change your mind :) But I agree with you on the rest !

  • @idonkat6097

    @idonkat6097

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Xemptuous If you say that the "Lang Lang types" butcher all the pieces they play just because they play their own interpretations and have some fun and if you can only see two types of players, the "Mrchanistics" as you like to call it and the expressive players, you really have a poor understanding of what a musician and the art of music is. And I'm also very confused by your "ego intervention" argument, have you ever heard of Paganini? "Ego" and flair is probably what allowed Paganini to write his most famous works, the charismatic "ego" and flair that is so commonly found on the pieces of Paganini is what inspired so many other composers and musicians down the line not only in interpretations but in musical pieces themselves.

  • @mateusquasetuga

    @mateusquasetuga

    Жыл бұрын

    I can and do deny it. He is trash. I don’t care what he’s capable of. His performances that he makes a living selling are trash.

  • @Arobamod

    @Arobamod

    Жыл бұрын

    @@idonkat6097 It was not “ego” but rather Paganini’s incredible skill at the violin that propelled his fame. This extreme skill is what pushed Franz Liszt to practice 10 to 12 hours a day.

  • @THE_ONE850
    @THE_ONE8502 ай бұрын

    lang lang appears like an entertainer, however, as a professional pianist myself I can vouch for the fact that the feeling of pouring your heart and soul into a piece such as this is nigh on euphoric, and even the most stern of individuals can't help but let out a smile. In my opinion, I think that it is both impressive and beautiful to see the amount of passion that lang lang has for the piano.

  • @brewskiproductionslasvegas
    @brewskiproductionslasvegas Жыл бұрын

    Looks like I finally found Ling Ling's brother. Amazing job by both of these pianists. They both deserve a lifetime achievement award for playing this so amazingly well.

  • @KKIcons

    @KKIcons

    8 ай бұрын

    🤯Only one letter difference in the name, might be the OG

  • @macenblu6
    @macenblu6 Жыл бұрын

    why would anyone even argue about two such incredible interpretations?

  • @rusticagenerica

    @rusticagenerica

    Жыл бұрын

    One of them is just there to impress, while the other is pure music

  • @user-fq7uh3wq1f

    @user-fq7uh3wq1f

    9 ай бұрын

    @@rusticagenerica Which one? Kissin?

  • @QTX23
    @QTX23 Жыл бұрын

    Evgeny absolutely astonishing, his soul is playing with him.

  • @CatchingUpwithChazzie
    @CatchingUpwithChazzie Жыл бұрын

    Loving their individuality! So unique. I’m still learning and wish to be like one of them someday 🤩

  • @insidiosity
    @insidiosity Жыл бұрын

    Two incredible performances with two different, yet in my eyes equally entertaining, styles of playing :)

  • @zerm120
    @zerm120 Жыл бұрын

    And back in the day Liszt was considered an entertainer… usually by the ones who couldn’t play .. and those who hate lang lang would give years of their lives to be able to play like him…

  • @tarokan_nor

    @tarokan_nor

    Жыл бұрын

    I would, as far as I can tell considering the time that has passed, also consider liszt to be an entertainer. IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T MAKE (GREAT) MUSIC, It's just a different way of doing it, and it can go terribly wrong if you are OVERdoing it.

  • @hieu1807

    @hieu1807

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tarokan_nor how can you be that narrow minded about the definition of musician? One can produce music but isn’t considered as a musician? Not every musician is a PERFORMER or even a great one! And music is subjected to TASTE! You may dislike Liszt or Lang Lang’s expression and the way they express music, but to call them “non musicians” is just utterly nonsense and click-baited.

  • @hieu1807

    @hieu1807

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tarokan_nor and what’s the problem with one can’t be an entertainer and musician at the SAME time? Why do they have to be mutually exclusive?

  • @redfishplayz4476

    @redfishplayz4476

    Жыл бұрын

    I think He was more Like a merchant(I dont mean He is Bad at the Piano and Just clickbait or Something), He went excactly with the trend (in His time, music was very literary) and I read that He was good at selling His music and doing ad. I dont wanna say that He Just fooled us, Dude is pieces are extremly difficult and I Like is Style its very refined passages and makes Up a very good Show. But He has the blood of a merchant.

  • @redfishplayz4476

    @redfishplayz4476

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hieu1807 Well U can be both, Like I kinda wanna be both entertaining music is Just some music To Hear and enjoy But music music is Something To Express Feelings, the current reaction To the composers Situation, the thoughts, the Style, Idol and maybe worries or excitements or also To Tell Stories that can be very abstract. I try To do that with my compositions.

  • @ericadangelo
    @ericadangelo Жыл бұрын

    Both musicians, both entertainers, both incredibly talented and each a unique individual

  • @susanhawkins3890
    @susanhawkins38909 ай бұрын

    Lang Lang is brilliant!!! He just happens to enjoy performing better than anything!! Eugene is very serious & enjoys performing but is more controlled in his mannerisms! Pianist s of this caliber should never be. second guessed !!

  • @kennylai8305
    @kennylai8305 Жыл бұрын

    Both of them show their musical design and beautiful interpretations to the piece. They are both wonderful

  • @tarinaerisjah7718
    @tarinaerisjah7718 Жыл бұрын

    omg evgeny playing this sounds really dreamy, but well i might say ... what's different between being musicians and musical entertainers is just choices. one chooses to bring out the legacy of the piece, such as the will of the composer, the meaning of the piece, while trying to completely or partially erase their individual existence, to be one with the intentions of the piece, while the other choose to entertain the audience by playing the piece in a certain way to attract and make the performance a long lasting memories to the audience. both of them must have a very high skill in their music studies and their mental fortitude. just different purpose. and saying a person can't be both is also untrue.

  • @twistedpixie8299
    @twistedpixie829914 күн бұрын

    I don't understand this video title. I find both of them exceptionally talented musicians, both play with their individual and obvious passion. I was absolutely impressed and entertained by both of them.

  • @boulenouarnachida5870
    @boulenouarnachida5870 Жыл бұрын

    I love.... I'm totally in love with the way Lang Lang is playing.... it's so magical.....

  • @fibienn250
    @fibienn250 Жыл бұрын

    Lang Lang always looks like he is enjoying himself. His fingers dance in this piece and that increases his connection to his listeners.

  • @argi0774

    @argi0774

    Жыл бұрын

    Not, that doesn't increase anything

  • @RationalSaneThinker

    @RationalSaneThinker

    Жыл бұрын

    @argi0774, It absolutely adds to the performance. If you don't care about the visuals, why not just listen to a recording of the performance? I, for one, go to live performances to SEE the artist perform. Lang Lang's performance increases the overall experience for me.

  • @argi0774

    @argi0774

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RationalSaneThinker It doesn't "add" anything to the performance. It ruins it. I don't want to see funny clowns while listening to classical music

  • @Anonymous------

    @Anonymous------

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@argi0774 Concerts goers who paid thousands of dollars for a front row ticket disagree with you. You couldn't know anyway because you wash toilets at McDonald's, you can't afford concert ticket.

  • @argi0774

    @argi0774

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Anonymous------ That's ok. Then they like to spend a lot of money for watching a clown. Nothing wrong with that

  • @synergiesabound1007
    @synergiesabound1007 Жыл бұрын

    La Campanella's build up intensity is special, and listening to countless interpretations has me blown away every single time I hear Kissin's.

  • @nn7397
    @nn73979 ай бұрын

    Hugely talented both of them!! I enjoy watching LL having fun! Gee let the man be happy!!

  • @gidsamerosido6074
    @gidsamerosido60748 ай бұрын

    The music emanating from the piano is so powerful that's why your body must move with it if you allow it to.

  • @MDZac2024
    @MDZac2024 Жыл бұрын

    Both incredibly impressive. I enjoyed both. Love the virtuosity of Kissin and also the entertainment and playfulness of Lang Lang. How can we not appreciate both equally.

  • @alexreid2393
    @alexreid2393 Жыл бұрын

    2:30 Love how the left hand plays slowly and calm while the right hand is playing 100mph & yet together they sound elegant & in harmony. It’s like slow & fast at the same time.

  • @simonhenry3217
    @simonhenry3217 Жыл бұрын

    Both r excellent musicians, each got his own style. Its up to each to judge which one is their fav. Its like watching opera and a movie.

  • @andrewrichardsuk
    @andrewrichardsuk5 ай бұрын

    From just a listener... I appreciate both are absolutely unique within their own rights, so it comes down to a personal preference. Lang Lang has his own style and so does Evgeny. Both are entertainers and true masters of their instrument! I could've played piano since i was 3 with the best coaching and still never reached their level, they are gifted and individually so. Thank you both for devoting your life to giving others so much pleasure ❤

  • @SD-de4do

    @SD-de4do

    4 ай бұрын

    listeners are why we play

  • @atukivan4320
    @atukivan4320 Жыл бұрын

    Kissin plays perfectly for serious classical music lovers, and Lang Lang brings classical music to general public.

  • @pianoman551000

    @pianoman551000

    Жыл бұрын

    The way that Liberace brought classical music to the general public. (minus the sequins and bejeweled fingers).

  • @socringe2217

    @socringe2217

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LemonadeLiberal you also forgot that waking up to all your delusions will fix all of it. Cya

  • @chorizoalegre7387

    @chorizoalegre7387

    Жыл бұрын

    This is the stupidest comment I have ever heard

  • @vanjavanja3905

    @vanjavanja3905

    Жыл бұрын

    POCHEMY ?

  • @petekinross00

    @petekinross00

    Жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU!!! nicely said. The Kissin is extraordinary, compared to other recordings before. The Lang Lang (recorded years later) is extraordinarily well played, to entertain broad audience, which is a cool thing to do.

  • @caleblaw3497
    @caleblaw3497 Жыл бұрын

    The title is misleading. First of all this piece is a show piece being played at encore. It is ok to show off and have fun. Second, we should focus on the music itself and not let the pianist's gestures and facial expression distracts you from appreciating the music. Lang Lang's version of this piece is actually good. I listened to both Kissin and Lang Lang quite a bit. I attended their concerts and have more than 20 CDs from both pianists. In 1997, Kissin was at the height of his career. I went to his concert in 1997 and that was the best concert I have ever attended in my life. Unfortunately his career regressed after that. All the recordings he made after 1997 are not as good as the ones he made before 1997. Lang Lang is the other way around. He grew up and matured in recent years. So you are comparing Kissin at the height of his career and his career is a disappointment after that, with Lang Lang who is still young in 2012, and since then has grown up and matured. This is what I noticed - When I listen to Lang Lang, I usually don't like it in the first listening. In subsequent listening of the same piece, I get used to the parts that initially annoyed me and start to pick up things that I like, and eventually accept and appreciate his interpretation. I'd suggest listeners to give Lang Lang another try. Don't just turn off after the first try. Keep listening for 3-4 times and it may change your opinion on Lang Lang completely. And turn off the video and focus on the music helps

  • @hoogreen

    @hoogreen

    Жыл бұрын

    ikr music is meant to be HEARD, i dont understand why so many people get tunnel vision on the "SEE" part

  • @BenDanen

    @BenDanen

    Жыл бұрын

    I believe I am right in saying that the post was meant to interpret Kissin as the musician and Lang Lang is the entertainer in respect to the title. That said, I do see how it could be seen either way. Both men are exceptionally great in the world of music but definitely have a difference in their performance. Kissin being much more intense and powerful with Lang Lang much more at ease and jovial.

  • @liangnanliu4649

    @liangnanliu4649

    Жыл бұрын

    I can't agree more with you. I disliked Lang Lang when I first listened to his play, but the more I listen to him the more I realize who am I here to judge how one of the greatest pianists in the world should interpret the music

  • @mvanphilips

    @mvanphilips

    Жыл бұрын

    First time around listening to Lang Lang is enough for me, he is just exceptional.

  • @fh854
    @fh8549 ай бұрын

    I think Lang Lang is actually a pretty good Liszt interpreter, because his styles seems to fit Liszt’s more exhibitionistic style

  • @jasminerochas-oq8jw
    @jasminerochas-oq8jw8 ай бұрын

    I have just listened two musicians ,each in his own way , very generous and amazing. And Paganini is a legend for good reasons !!😊

  • @NSC006
    @NSC006 Жыл бұрын

    Lang Lang's expressivity... So elegant, so delicate, that's understanding a piece at another level

  • @user-qt5xh9mt7x

    @user-qt5xh9mt7x

    Жыл бұрын

    not really, it's fake and dishonest

  • @grupsy8115

    @grupsy8115

    Жыл бұрын

    @@user-qt5xh9mt7x i’d like to argue otherwise. listening to it live, it is much more obvious than in recordings, he is expressional. he is control and composure, and just as exceptional as any. yes, he likes to have fun, but when it comes to his musicality, dishonest is not what comes to mind.

  • @grupsy8115

    @grupsy8115

    Жыл бұрын

    @@user-qt5xh9mt7x expressivity is a point to form opinions, but not critique on. i prefer zimmerman’s interpretation of chopin’s ballades, while others prefer rubenstein. it is just preference, not a point to discredit expressivity.

  • @argi0774

    @argi0774

    Жыл бұрын

    No it's not. Not at all.

  • @JosesBWK

    @JosesBWK

    Жыл бұрын

    @@grupsy8115 He refers to being dishonest to the original interpretation liszt/paganini meant for this piece. Kissin is much closer to the original intentions of the composers. Not disowning Lang Lang, but lets face it, Evgeny does an impecable performance.

  • @Music-un6ic
    @Music-un6ic Жыл бұрын

    Nah, Lang Lang has some of the best interpretations for some pieces, check out his Romance for Liszt, his Ave Maria (even though I prefer Lisitsa), the Etude Op 10 No 3 (the long vid where he performs on stage and it starts off with lots of clapping for the encore). These are a few that stood out to me that I remember now, but they really are some ones I just love and listen to often, (except the Ave Maria actually, but from what I remember it’s great too). Oh, just remembered, the Reverie in the blue room or something like that, small venue. These are all amazing! Trifonov my fave hands down, but (ofc) there are still soo many pianists that bring great interpretations, their own style, etc. Lang Lang is def one of them. He’s not afraid to play the way he feels, and according to his own style which is true to him. Title just harms the man. Come on, let’s support our musicians.

  • @igarok6520

    @igarok6520

    Жыл бұрын

    Classical music is not a show. There are not allowed pose/stupid body movements and pseudodramatism

  • @Benjamin-fk2yo

    @Benjamin-fk2yo

    Жыл бұрын

    Lang lang’s reminiscences de don giovanni in carnegie hall was also a legendary performance. That (live) recording proved to me that he knows his worth as a musician.

  • @Benjamin-fk2yo

    @Benjamin-fk2yo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@igarok6520 You cannot really just set these rules you know.. In this video both Kissin and Lang lang are performing the music in their own way. Unless the composer of the music verifies the proper character and intention of the music, you can’t say what is allowed or not when performing; I consider that limitting artistic expression and freedom.

  • @impostor8984

    @impostor8984

    Жыл бұрын

    @@igarok6520 wait til you hear the stories about liszt

  • @pakacha8999

    @pakacha8999

    Жыл бұрын

    @@igarok6520 A particularly popular classical music channel performs their concerts wherein they mix comedy with classical music and lets their audience clap as they play :) it's not always that you should be proper and respectful when there are people who want to present classical music differently.

  • @user-cc9pi2ro4m
    @user-cc9pi2ro4m7 ай бұрын

    两个伟大的钢琴家都用自己的方式和理解,向这个作品致敬

  • @johnhealey6455
    @johnhealey64558 ай бұрын

    I’m not sure the piece could be played better than Kissin’s performance.

  • @GOATAli
    @GOATAli Жыл бұрын

    Both absolute piano maestros.. both pieces exceptional..

  • @NickCarlozzi
    @NickCarlozzi Жыл бұрын

    If I close my eyes I really enjoy LLs playing. I don’t always agree with his choices but he displays a great deal of originality in his interpretations. When he first came onto the scene I couldn’t appreciate this-I couldn’t get passed all the faces and body movements, but now that he’s chilled a bit with the theatrics I’ve grown to really appreciate him. Definitely a great musician and entertainer. Respect.

  • @constipatedlecher
    @constipatedlecher11 ай бұрын

    Lang Lang is awesome, a true musician, not to be dismissed as an "entertainer"

  • @liavasoni2153

    @liavasoni2153

    11 ай бұрын

    Sure he IS an entertainer! But he is a true one! On the other hand, is Kissin a true artist?

  • @unwrought9757
    @unwrought97578 ай бұрын

    One important thing should not be omitted: Paganini himself, as well as Liszt were both great and spectacular entertainers! They both were not ashamed of using any cirque-like trick if it helped the effect. I am quite sure that Liszt would scratch his nose or light his cigar while playing. And Paganini would probably cut one of his strings. They were unparalleled musicians naturally, but let’s not forget that they were entertainers. After all, this very composition is basically a simple tune with enormously difficult variations and its original purpose was to amaze.

  • @ralphkeating7564
    @ralphkeating7564 Жыл бұрын

    I love the title. It doesn’t state which is which. My ears are loose to various interpretations. As different from each other as those performances were, both amazing.

  • @Tlll123

    @Tlll123

    Жыл бұрын

    It's a piece for entertainment. Actually for me all music is for entertainment, being it La Campanella, or Art of Fugue or Boulez 2nd Piano Sonata (two pieces that I find millioin times more entertaining than La Campanella). If any music play doesn't entertain, then it's a failure. Based on this I'd really be really curious about which one the OP thinks is the entertainer?

  • @topkho
    @topkho Жыл бұрын

    Lang Lang’s complete control of the piano is actually extremely impressive. A true master

  • @jgwmain

    @jgwmain

    Жыл бұрын

    As a pianist who has been playing for over 12 years, he is a true inspiration and has moved and motivated me musically and personally. I continue to play to this day as a piano major and I may not be fully classically trained yet, but I’m getting there. And someday, I’ll be able to play these difficult pieces. I will keep practicing every day so I don’t lose my touch as everyone learning or playing piano should.

  • @topkho

    @topkho

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jgwmain I agree. Lang Lang is an inspiration for young pianists for several reasons: - Exceptional talent: Lang Lang is widely regarded as one of the most talented pianists of his generation. His technical skill and musicality have earned him numerous awards and accolades. - Passionate performer: Lang Lang is known for his passionate and expressive performances. He puts his heart and soul into every piece he plays, which makes his performances truly captivating. - Positive attitude: Lang Lang is also admired for his positive attitude and his ability to inspire others. He encourages young musicians to pursue their dreams and believes in the power of music to bring people together. - Role model: Lang Lang has also become a role model for young musicians, especially in his home country of China. He has broken down barriers and helped to bring classical music to a wider audience, inspiring a new generation of pianists to follow in his footsteps. Overall, Lang Lang's exceptional talent, passionate performances, positive attitude, and role model status have made him a true inspiration for young pianists around the world.

  • @rickywang7791

    @rickywang7791

    Жыл бұрын

    @@topkho No offense, but you sound a little bit like chatgpt there😄

  • @topkho

    @topkho

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rickywang7791 lol haha

  • @estebanod

    @estebanod

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@rickywang7791 this is defintely ChatGPT, the list and the "Overall," is too noticeable.

  • @wolfdemusic
    @wolfdemusic3 ай бұрын

    No comparaison, 2 different styles and 2 wonderful musicien

  • @jgsky
    @jgsky Жыл бұрын

    Just love Land lang, he is extremely skillful and unique

  • @jayoleg8421
    @jayoleg8421 Жыл бұрын

    “One of the great challenges in this world is knowing enough about a subject to think you're right, but not enough about the subject to know you're wrong.” - Neil de Grasse Tyson

  • @Mooseman327

    @Mooseman327

    Жыл бұрын

    This sounds like an indictment of Tyson's entire career. He doesn't know enough about anything to realize that he's wrong about many, many things.

  • @Brennnann13NY

    @Brennnann13NY

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Mooseman327 you’re a fool. Maybe you should purchase some of his literature, or read his actually papers then tell me that isn’t one of leaders in our world of astrophysics and cosmology. Please just stop.

  • @shidasakura417
    @shidasakura417 Жыл бұрын

    Both are incredible

  • @briandouglas5098
    @briandouglas50989 ай бұрын

    Different personalities different style Both absolutely brilliant.

  • @Spencercamp2466
    @Spencercamp24669 ай бұрын

    The way lang lang touches the piano just looks effortless and good

  • @vaadwilsla858
    @vaadwilsla858 Жыл бұрын

    Both extraordinarily fine performances. These two belong to a different species. It is difficult to comprehend the mastery this requires.

  • @conker2967
    @conker2967 Жыл бұрын

    I don't know... LangLang will always be my favorite for Liszt interpretations, but Kissin's Campanella was superb. The audience is the key factor in a recital, otherwise just stay at home and play for yourself. The title infers that the entertaining one isn't a musician.

  • @renzo6490

    @renzo6490

    Жыл бұрын

    Implies. The person speaking implies. The person listening infers.

  • @ciararespect4296

    @ciararespect4296

    Жыл бұрын

    Only liszt I like from Lang Lang was his Don Quixote the rest I don't like

  • @conker2967

    @conker2967

    Жыл бұрын

    @@renzo6490 thanks! :)

  • @mahyargharehdaghi9383

    @mahyargharehdaghi9383

    Жыл бұрын

    @@renzo6490 ah, a new word i just learned. Cool.

  • @renzo6490

    @renzo6490

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mahyargharehdaghi9383 Native speakers of English often get these two words confused. .

  • @ampueromusic
    @ampueromusic Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely amazing both of them 👏🏼

  • @marcelnoya
    @marcelnoya9 ай бұрын

    _Lang Lang_ here… does a spot-on imitation… of _Liberace's_ mannerisms

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