And the reason we don’t have a biblical account of the destruction of Jerusalem and its temple is because the Bible was written before it’s destruction (pre 70 AD).

@luboshcamber1992

6 ай бұрын

@lesliestroud6656 Really? We don't have record of how did Apostle Peter die in the Bible. What's the reason for that? There are many many prophecies that foretold stuff and we can only see the record of their fulfilment in the history. Not in the Bible. Your reasoning is flawed.

@lesliestroud6656

6 ай бұрын

@@luboshcamber1992 When Peter reached old age, Jesus said, he would stretch out his hands and be led to where he did not want to go (v. 18). The phrase “stretch out your hands” was a common way of alluding to crucifixion in the ancient world, so we see here a prediction that Peter would eventually be martyred by means of crucifixion. Later tradition holds that Peter was crucified upside down during the reign of Nero sometime in the early to mid-60s AD. And though we don’t have a biblical account of Peter’s death, my point to my previous comment was the dating of the book of Revelation.

@angloaust1575

6 ай бұрын

Altho Peter Was never in rome Paul never mentioned him in Letter to the romans!

@murreydonaldson6157

5 ай бұрын

Leslie, you are right about the dating of Revelation. See Dr. Chuck Baldwin/Liberty Fellowship for good info on that. Also, you will find that Revelations is the account of Jerusalem's destruction. Scofieldism is of Satan my brother. Blessings

@Animalsandwildlife.7527

3 ай бұрын

Not necessarily. When it was destroyed most people in Jerusalem were all killed with the exception of those that ran away to the mountains especially those who had converted to christianity. Christian were also more focused of spreading the gospel to other parts of the world as they knew the temples destruction was something that had been predicted by jesus christ.

That last bit gave me chills. Can you imagine hearing evidence of God removing himself from you and your people? I would fall on my face weeping. I know they were wicked and corrupt and they along with us all deserve God's wrath but I still tear up hearing about that whole thing

@davidmathews9633

10 ай бұрын

Try getting cancer and suffering to death

So thankful they're uploading these series to KZread now. They've been incredibly helpful as discipleship tools! He's a wonderful teacher.

What a great scholar and man of God. Thank you.

@davidgraham2673

4 жыл бұрын

Amazing explanations in this series. What a blessing to hear this.

According to Jesus they would cry for the rocks to fall on them and and hide from face of God. The great day of the Lord has come.

@salehshamim6242

2 жыл бұрын

Well said sir

@derekmarcoux934

Жыл бұрын

Revelations 9:6

@shellyblanchard5788

Жыл бұрын

Most people though want it to be for our generation. Jesus said it would be their generation. The great and notable of lord happened then. Jesus died on the cross and took away our sins. Then there was a great earth quake. That was the great and notable of the lord, I believe.

Everybody should listen to RC Sproul. Christian & non-Christian, everybody.

Amen Sproul. There are many fascinating truths to teach from the Bible. Praise The Lord for gifting us with His son, to die for our sins, may we adore Him forevermore. God bless you all.

I knew there was going to be a pearl at the end of RC s lecture,there always is....come Jesus come

Jesus is coming. Brothers and sisters now is the time to get right with god. He can never Lie. The promise will be fulfilled. As Jesus said before dying for the sin of the world “ it is finished.” The debt has been paid , but now his plan for you must begin 🙌🏽🙌🏽

@mjpfoot

Жыл бұрын

Jeremiah 31:31-34 The New Covenant [31] “Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, [32] not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the LORD. [33] For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. [34] And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.”

@allthingsbing1295

Жыл бұрын

He came in AD70

@gracealone7880

Жыл бұрын

@@allthingsbing1295 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 13 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words. Jesus is came in AD70 and he will come again. Maranatha!!!

@allthingsbing1295

Жыл бұрын

@@gracealone7880 where does the Bible describe 3 returns?? Yeshua only refers to two ages “this age” and “the age to come” AD70 was the transition point. When Yeshua returned in judgement and destroyed the temple.

Hats off to you R.C. Sproul...may your teaching be a scale for every truth we incounter...

@robertlee4107

2 жыл бұрын

You are right

Sure do miss this blessed man!

We will all stand before the judgement seat of Christ: whether we die tonight, are taken up in the rapture, die during the great tribulation, or receive the wrath of God. Christians should never argue about these things because each of us has an appointment with death - sooner or later.

I just found Sproul's eschatology videos, didn't think he taught on that subject. I hope to find all of them. He was the best Bible teacher of this generation by far.

@southern_star394

4 жыл бұрын

TRISH - Chuck Baldwin make a video call the destruction of Jerusalem very interesting you should check it out

@MD-cd7em

4 жыл бұрын

HE TAUGHT ON EVERYTHING...HE IS A THEOLOGIAN... HE WAS TEACHING 30 YRS AGO

@tlafleur8433

4 жыл бұрын

@@MD-cd7em I must have watched ALL of the KZread videos featuring Sproul and the ones of the Ligoniers panel Q's & A's. I had never seen Sproul discuss End Times in any until these were recently posted. I am beyond excited and grateful about these.

@tlafleur8433

4 жыл бұрын

@@southern_star394 Thanks. I will watch it.

@thebeardedman-drenaline5546

3 жыл бұрын

@@myrealfakename6068 clicked on the link and it says it's a private video, is there anywhere else that i could find it?

May the Lord continue to bless him for eternity for being faithful to the scriptures.

Thank you Ligonier for sharing RCSproul with us. He presents God's Word in such an understandable way--making it accessible for any listener. It makes me wish I had known this wonderful man of God... we desperately need to make his vision of the Holiness of YHVH our own!

As I have come to expect , these presentations are excellent in all ways ! His style is very easy to digest for the common man yet he does not have an imposing manner of talking down to a lesser being. I will be so pleased to meet him in person next time I see him in Heaven .......

@Kenayi22

3 жыл бұрын

Lesser beings? What is that exactly?

@Emrio3

2 жыл бұрын

Christians God is not a man to be replaced by Jesus Make no mistake God is your antichrist

@livedaly1433

7 ай бұрын

What's happening there is vengeance for 70 ad. "Certain" are settling a score, with their neighbors, who in talmudic literature are said they are not human, and bear the country's name, the Roman's gave it. Talk about obvious.

@livedaly1433

7 ай бұрын

Blood feuds are blood chilling. Thank the Lord Jesus, he has said when he returns there will be no more war.

As Jesus Yesappa said all happened yes Jesus is the true only God in this whole world yes Amen

Fascinating. I never knew that Josephus was actually a Jewish general who fought against Rome and later served as a liaison between the Jews and Rome as well being a "Roman historian" after being allowed to live by emperor Vespatian.

there IS a biblical account of A.D. 70. Jesus prophesied of it repeatedly, and specifically in parables, and more directly at times. the prophets did also. "these are the days of vengeance that all things that were written may be fulfilled." certainly all the epistles and the book of revelation were written before A.D. 70. "...things which much shortly take place."

Astounding account by Josephus and Tacitus delivered by possibly the best theologian of our time! So much for the futurist view.

@fzr1000981

2 жыл бұрын

Wrong. Daniel's 70th Week is yet unfulfilled. That 7 years begins with a peace treaty allowing the Jews to rebuild the temple one last time (before the Millennial Kingdom). The events of 70 AD hardly fulfilled the prophecy of Revelation, which was written about 20 years later.

@lilascott1671

2 жыл бұрын

@@fzr1000981 it has been fulfilled.

@fzr1000981

2 жыл бұрын

Nope. None of horrific events of Revelation or Daniel's 70th Week have been fulfilled or even close. Israel will draw the entire world to war one last time

@robertlee4107

2 жыл бұрын

Amen Amen

@allthingsbing1295

Жыл бұрын

@@fzr1000981 revelation was written in mid 60s AD.

WOW! Thank you for this teaching . Josephus and Tacitus extended and testified the predictions of the Lord Jesus about Jerusalem. I am going to Israel this October and am thrilled to see the city of Jerusalem and its history. Grateful to Mr. Sproul for his ministry and teaching. Have learned so much from him. God bless for the continued ministry.

This is amazing yet so terrifying, especially at this moment right now in what’s happening in Jerusalem

@suetaylor1127

Жыл бұрын

Faith not fear. He who is in us is greater then he who is in the world!

@isaacnakabaale5071

Жыл бұрын

Am fascinated by this lecture and would love to have all the series. My question is, has the abomination of desolation spoken by Jesus happened in the siege of Jerusalem AD 70, it's when the anti Christ will demand to be worshiped?

@ShamelesslyRed

7 ай бұрын

It's Nov 2023. Look at what's happening in Israel now.

Amen, we advertise this series on our playlist. God-bless!

@marktrout167

Жыл бұрын

Amen

Check out the destruction of Jerusalem sermon by Chuck Baldwin the pastor of Liberty Fellowship.

I was enthralled by this teaching. Most fascinating!!

So what I am getting for studying the book of revelation is that from a historical standpoint there are many things described in this book, which was not in the Bible at first, had already happened throughout the first century. The events line up with the prophets in the OT. What I also come to understand is the “thousand year reign” is the word thousand can mean an infinite amount of time or a long time. I do not think thousand was literal here I think it might have been mistranslated into a specific measurement of time. Which could be wrong. In my mind I am going to assume the prophesy of revelation is mostly complete and we exist in the “church age” or the “thousand year reign” for long period or era of time. So our prophesy may be revelation 20+.

RC Sproul was a great teacher.

✝️JESUS CHRIST IS LORD 🕊 The old Covenant age did pass away 70AD just as Jesus said. Jesus inaugurated The New Covenant ✝️ Love God Love people Do not Murder Do Not Lie Live at Peace with God & people 🕊🙏🏻🙏🏿

@almaskhanalmaskhan6504

2 жыл бұрын

La illah illala Their is no god but allah... Jesus is prophet of God(allah)... Jesus is not god..

I would like to add the following from book VI and chapter 5 of the Josephus account which Sproul may have been remiss to omit: "Thus there was a star, resembling a sword, which stood over the city: and a comet, that continued a whole year. (15) Thus also before the Jews rebellion, and before those commotions which preceded the war, when the people were come in great crowds to the feast of unleavened bread, on the eighth day of the month Xanthicus, [Nisan,] (16) and at the ninth hour of the night, so great a light shone round the altar, and the holy house, that it appeared to be bright day time. Which light lasted for half an hour. This light seemed to be a good sign to the unskilful: but was so interpreted by the sacred scribes, as to portend those events that followed immediately upon it." and also this: "But what is still more terrible; there was one Jesus, the son of Ananus, a plebeian, and an husbandman, who, four years before the war began; and at a time when the city was in very great peace and prosperity; came to that feast whereon it is our custom for every one to make tabernacles to God in the temple, (17) began on a sudden to cry aloud, “A voice from the east; a voice from the west; a voice from the four winds; a voice against Jerusalem, and the holy house; a voice against the bridegrooms, and the brides; and a voice against this whole people.” This was his cry, as he went about by day and by night, in all the lanes of the city. However certain of the most eminent among the populace had great indignation at this dire cry of his; and took up the man, and gave him a great number of severe stripes. Yet did not he either say any thing for himself, or any thing peculiar to those that chastised him: but still went on with the same words which he cried before. Hereupon our rulers, supposing, as the case proved to be, that this was a sort of divine fury in the man; brought him to the Roman procurator. Where he was whipped till his bones were laid bare. Yet he did not make any supplication for himself, nor shed any tears: but turning his voice to the most lamentable tone possible, at every stroke of the whip his answer was, “Woe, woe to Jerusalem.”"

@MD-cd7em

4 жыл бұрын

WOW..INTERESTING

@RV-there-Yet

4 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated paulkevin, thank you

@myrealfakename6068

4 жыл бұрын

Pastor Chuck Baldwin covered this is his message about the Destruction of Jerusalem... it's well worth watching. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZJ6kla56qbe2Zrw.html

@Zxuma

4 жыл бұрын

paulkevin There is always stars over or around the entire globe all the time from before the Egyptians discovered gardening. The sun is a star.

@gaylenhalbert4391

3 жыл бұрын

@@myrealfakename6068 Yes. Thank you.

The Romans not only cut down the forests of olive trees to use for fuel but cut down all the surrounding woods to use for their various siege engines, and for barricades to fence Jerusalem in, and also for the HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of crosses which they nailed the escaping Jews onto until the Romans ran out of trees.

This is good stuff. Typically, since I am not a Calvinist, I often disagree with the presented theology. But this is pretty solid info.

That was incredible

Definitely a wonderful teacher.

Praise YHWH! Yuhshua our Adon and Mashiach! Ruach ha'Qodesh! Forever! Amein!

@brucedressel8873

Жыл бұрын

Stop it with the pagan nonsense ... Lift high the name of Jesus!

So grateful for this knowledge!! God Bless!!

We are seeing what is going on in Jerusalem and Israel today.

This was bone chilling....

GOD HOLD N BLESS LIFES OF GOD LIFE.🙏🌹🔥❤️🕊️🌹☀️👥😢

Fascinating that same age 72-80 A.D. they build one of the most iconic monuments of time in Rome, the Colosseum.

thank you !!

"The Stone Cometh...The Son Coming". The Stone that the builders rejected. Make sense.

No matter the variant stone or son its remarkable to think about whe you consider the words "The Stone Cometh" He is the Cornerstone the Rock and he calls us Living Stones. Its actually quite an amazing thing either way

There has been many events that Jesus predicted would happen before His second coming, and have come and gone,as the sun darkening, also the moon, the falling of stars that happened every 33 years and still happen, also serious earthquakes and all these things will continue to happen but only God knows when Jesus will end it all at His return.

Good .....

Is it just me or do i see this guy going off on everyone with pure knowledge of understanding every aspect of what hes teaching. I could see this guy as a ruler of a nation. God had hired him in his army looks like. Cool people.

Matthew 24 is not an account of the end of the world, but an end of the Jewish AGE .. CHECK AGE V WORLD IN MATTHEW 24

Christians shouldn't see non-Christian Jews as sort of allies of Christians. If we want to know what God thinks about non-Christian Judaism, we only have to look at what He did through the Romans in 70 AD. Rejecting Jesus as Messiah is one of the worst sins that a person can commit. We should love all Jews, but we need to understand clearly that non-believing Jews are against Jesus. In Luke 11:23 the Lord says: “Anyone who is not with me is against me, and anyone who does not gather with me scatters.” This includes non-Christian Jews.

@cn.st.182

3 жыл бұрын

"non-Christian jews"? as opposed to Christian jews? :D

@maxaplin4204

3 жыл бұрын

@@cn.st.182 Yes, Jews can be divided into 2 groups: Christian Jews and non-Christian Jews.

@Toneytc

3 жыл бұрын

One should take care not to take the attitude that today's Jews are due "retribution" for the first century Jews rejection of Christ. Those Jews were dealt with by God Himself. Just a note of caution against unwarranted antisemitism.

@maxaplin4204

3 жыл бұрын

@@Toneytc I agree with you that we shouldn't think that Jews today are due punishment for what their ancestors did 2000 years ago. However, we need to understand clearly that according to the Bible one of the worst sins that a person can commit is to reject Jesus. And given that Jesus is first of all the Jewish Messiah and Saviour, and given that a large majority of Jews today reject him, non-Christian Jews today are in grave sin and are enemies of God. We also need to be careful not to confuse criticising Jews for their sins with antisemitism. Antisemitism is an attitude of hatred or condescension towards Jews, which Christians should wholeheartedly reject. But criticising someone with a view to their repentance is an attitude of love.

@maxaplin4204

3 жыл бұрын

@Samaria • 36 years ago There are actually many evangelicals who are highly critical of many policies of the state of Israel. Very cautiously, I do think Zionism itself is biblical. In Luke 21:24 Jesus says that 'Jerusalem will be trampled by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.' This seems to suggest that it is the will of God for the Jews to regain control of Jerusalem, and I think this verse was probably fulfilled in 1967 in the Six Day War. However, many Christians confuse the principle of Zionism with support for policies of the Israeli government, and that is a huge mistake.

And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

@ryanmozert

Жыл бұрын

hasnt happened. wait.

Josephus? What happened to 'Sola Scriptura' ?

Many do not understand that the last days have come and gone. Scripture (KJV) teaches three timelines: the time past, the last days, and the latter times (end times). On the latter timeline lies a 7-year period called the latter days. Scripture informs us that the latter timeline begins when the church collectively comes to the full (a mindset) to believe another gospel, and deceives many to think they are something they are not, rapture ready. Just to let you know the last days came to an end on Sept. 29, 2008 Elul 29; that at sunset of Elul 29, the latter timeline began (Sept. 30 Tishri 1). Fourteen years from the beginning of the latter timeline, the latter days began at sunset of Sept. 25/26, 2022 Tishri 1 and ends at sunset of Sept. 09, 2029 Elul 29. Rapture comes after the first of two tribulations (tribulation and great tribulation), which comes after the Latter Rain (second outpouring of the Holy Spirit). After the tribulation of those days (both tribulations of the latter days) then comes His wrath, which is reserved for the ungodly and the disobedient children. God is Three Persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and these Three are one, amen.

@Lordtocome

6 ай бұрын

Interesting. I have different reasons but agree basically with your time lines. We're close.

So when was Jesus seen coming in the clouds with all power and glory in AD 70? I think that would have been noted by someone at the time!

@admiralmurat2777

2 жыл бұрын

Lol you expecting Jesus to ride in on an actual cloud like silver surfer?

@jackmessick2869

2 жыл бұрын

@@admiralmurat2777 For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.

@jackmessick2869

2 жыл бұрын

@@admiralmurat2777 And when he had said these things, as they were looking on, he was lifted up, and a cloud took him out of their sight. 10 And while they were gazing into heaven as he went, behold, two men stood by them in white robes, 11 and said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven.”

@jackmessick2869

2 жыл бұрын

@@admiralmurat2777 Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him.

@sophielooker8935

2 жыл бұрын

Isaiah 19. Disciples were using Old testament idioms/ language and expression.

He reminds me of Boris balken in the 9th gate film. Is josepus same as Joseph? What's the difference?

@Confession23

8 күн бұрын

Ha Damn...so unfoldz

Render unto Caesar what is Caesars the planet & everything in it !

The futurists on this feed are squirming. It just doesn’t fit their paradigm. Truth wins.

@fatty1040

3 жыл бұрын

Pride begets fall

@seekingthemosthigh5978

3 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU

@davidwoods6015

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely correct.!!!!!

@truthorbounce

2 жыл бұрын

Are there records of the 2 witnesses yet to be uncovered then?

@fzr1000981

2 жыл бұрын

Wrong. Daniel's 70th Week is yet unfulfilled. That 7 years begins with a peace treaty allowing the Jews to rebuild the temple one last time (before the Millennial Kingdom). The events of 70 AD hardly fulfilled the prophecy of Revelation, which was written about 20 years later.

Soon God's will be done on earth as it is in heaven and the meek will inherit the earth and live forever on it. Psalm 37:9-11,29; Revelation 21:4,5; Daniel 2:44; John 5:28,29. Do you believe God's Word? Isaiah 55:11; Psalm 83:18.

Does Dr. Sproul’s recitation of Josephus’ history of the fall of Jerusalem suggest he believes preterism has merit?

@5points7019

Жыл бұрын

He said in one of his lectures that there are full preterists and partial preterists.. he is of the latter.

@harrypowers9412

Жыл бұрын

@@5points7019 As am I-thank you Natalie.

👍

Wait.. so do reformers not believe in Jesus’s return..?

@mountainman78629

11 ай бұрын

Yes but this wasn’t it. The fall of Jerusalem was Gods punishment on His people for rejecting their Messiah. Deuteronomy 18: 18I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him. 19And it shall be that whoever will not hear My words, which He speaks in My name, I will require it of him. Luke 19: 41Now as He drew near, He saw the city and wept over it, 42saying, “If you had known, even you, especially in this your day, the things that make for your peace! But now they are hidden from your eyes. 43For days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment around you, surround you and close you in on every side, 44and level you, and your children within you, to the ground; and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not know the time of your visitation.” Because you did not know the time of your visitation! Why would God punish any other generation than the one guilty of murdering the messiah? Most of Revelation has to be about the fall of Jerusalem because it had no have been written before ad 70 because it’s not mentioned in the Bible. And a key to understanding when Revelation was written in Revelation 1:1, these things which must shortly take place. Look up the Greek word for shortly. Shortly is the perfect English equivalent. Then use a Strong’s concordance and look up every instance where “shortly” is mentioned. “ I plan on coming to you shortly. Send Timothy to me shortly. It’s certainly not 2000 years and Paul has to mean before he dies

beckynorris4366-The generation that rejected the Christ. They said to Pontius Pilot; let his blood be upon us, and our children!

Luke 19:41-44

I wonder how reliable Josephus was. After all, he was a Jew who ended up working for the Romans. Still, i know he's a unique voice from those ancient times. Just wonder if we can take his "history" as....well....gospel.

@alphabogeyman7462

3 жыл бұрын

He recorded the events. His politics is irrelevant.

@P.H.888

3 жыл бұрын

God also used St Paul who was a Roman citizen and also a Hebrew & Pharisee Probably quite balanced in his history warts and all.

@L.Fontein7

Жыл бұрын

Yes, all this talk of Josephus makes one wonder what happened to 'Sola Scriptura'.

The Last Days 13:39

You recognize the herodian stones on the age all are framed called window stones.

Sounds like Jesus already came back. What does that mean for us?

@mountainman78629

11 ай бұрын

He hasn’t. There is no pre tribulation rapture. The fall of Jerusalem was the tribulation Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24. Jesus never taught a pre tribulation rapture. You can thank Tim lahaye for that lie

@mountainman78629

11 ай бұрын

Do yourself a favor and research the phrase “this generation” in the Bible. There’s no instance in where it’s used where it refers to any generation other than the one He was speaking to at that moment. In other words, “this generation” never refers to a future generation

@davidmathews9633

10 ай бұрын

Read Matthew 24, luke 21, Mark 13. Jesus clearly states He came in the clouds. Josephus wrote the same. Armies and chariots in the sky. 70 ad

@davidmathews9633

10 ай бұрын

Generation back then was 40 years. Giving the time when Jesus told them this and the time of the destruction of Jerusalem.....interesting

Daniel describes times of Gentiles in statue of Nebuchadnezzar, it’s not Jerusalem, that rock not hewn by hands of men, that destroys before Kingdom, but the last Gentile empire. So to claim all had been fulfilled in 70 AD, doesn’t make sense. My subjective opinion, this is what happens when you ignore Tanakh and only use New Testament for interpretation. Short summary of several verses, that the Lord uses in the Gospels and ignore volumes of the chapters that the same Jesus spoke through Patriarchs, Moses, Prophets and Psalms on this topic, is more than inadequate. All GOD’s prophets always spoke of near limited fulfillment of certain event, but projecting the prophecy to the greater and distant future fulfillment. This was a way prophets fulfill the Torah requirement, to distinguish between true and false prophets. Thus first century was a lesser fulfillment of the greater future fulfilment of the 70th week of Daniel, to end the times of Gentiles and finish promised redemption of Daniels people, Israel. Church age is not a Gentile age, it’s a mystery age of Jews and Gentiles in a new Body of the Messiah and is no way, shape and form connected to any generation of prophecy, including earthly ministry of the LORD Yeshua the Messiah. There is no church replacing Israel, but some Gentiles are grafted in to the promises made to the fathers. PS. Romans did not invade Palestine, but invaded by then reunited kingdom of Israel, which took place during Assyrian and Babylonian invasions. Palestine did not exist until Romans attached this name out of spite to the land of Israel in 135 AD. It was, is and always be the Land God gave Israel, even when we rebel against Him.

Didn't Titus the son of the general who invaded Jerusalem also write about that?

@vanessaknox172

3 жыл бұрын

And wasn't it the descendants of Cain who revolutionized weaponry?

@Sam-fp8zm

Жыл бұрын

I dont think titus left writings

Josephus seems be like the prophets during the destruction of Jerusalem by the Babylonians

Oooh cool thing! Deuteronomy chapter 28 speaks about the cannibalism that mothers will have for their children. (The same way the historian had an account of this.) Very interesting biblical parallel that points to the disobedience of the Israelite nation.

@derekmarcoux934

Жыл бұрын

fulfilled in 2kings 6:29

Jesus predicted that the temple would be destroyed - not one stone of it left standing - yet he would rebuild the temple in 3 days. Do I have that right?

@davidgraham2673

4 жыл бұрын

The Temple he was talking about was HIM. Not the building. The confusion lies in two different discourses by Jesus. They were stated on two different times, one concerning himself, and one concerning the Temple building.

@davidgraham2673

4 жыл бұрын

He did say that the Temple building would be destroyed, with no stone upon another, just to be clear. And that particular prophecy was fulfilled, as well as his prophecy concerning His being raised on the third day.

@LDavis-dd7lq

4 жыл бұрын

@@davidgraham2673 True. Therefore, that place that Christians recognize as the wailing wall cannot be part of the Temple's remaining, because not ONE STONE shall be left upon another is the truth.

@davidgraham2673

4 жыл бұрын

@@LDavis-dd7lq , That seems logical. Perhaps the wall is part of the city fortifications. It seems too massive to be part of the Temple complex. Now you've piqued my curiosity.

@davidgraham2673

4 жыл бұрын

@@LDavis-dd7lq , From what I can gather, the wailing wall is actually part of the Temple complex, but not part of the Temple itself. Therefore it would not necessarily be included in the prophecy given by Jesus Christ.

this thread is fascinating. the cherrypicking!

I've been taught that Jesus is fully man and fully God. Well man is stuck in time. God is outside of time. I'm not sure we are capable of understanding the olivet discourse fully because of this. I think it might even be possible that Jesus was talking about the 2nd temple and the 3rd temple at the same time. Just like the old testament prophets talked about the 1st coming and the second coming at the same time.

Can someone show me any evidence of 1st or 2nd generation Christians giving God glory or praising him for Jesus coming in the clouds as he promised? ?????? Of them saying anything like now that the temple is destroyed we are now in the new age?? or anything that sounds like they believed at all 70 AD fulfilled these scriptures??? Or why Justin martyr and others could be premillennial with no indication of a preterist view??

Matthew 15:24- "I came only for the lost sheep of the house of Israel." ~Jesus Christ first century Hebrews 9:15- "Redemption was only for those who sinned under the first covenant."~Apostle Paul first century Galatians 4:4-5- "Jesus came only to redeem those under the (Old Covenant) Law." ~Apostle Paul first century Romans 5:13- "Where there is no (Old Covenant) Law, sin is not taken into account."~Apostle Paul first century Romans 9:14- "The ADOPTION into Sonship, the GLORY, the COVENANTS (both Old & New), the giving of the LAW, the WORSHIP and the PROMISES only BELONGED to (ancient) ISRAELITES."~Apostle Paul first century

@spoopyradicalsnake

11 ай бұрын

i'm a pacific islander why did the Spirit of God rested on me like the 70 elders in the time of Moses? "I say unto you, many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham... in the kingdom of heaven"

@josephrohland5604

11 ай бұрын

@@spoopyradicalsnake You’re duped into believing a misappropriated redemptive narrative that appeared soon after AD70 and it’s been a circus of error ever since.

I’ve read the Jewish wars a few times and has to be one of the best books I’ve ever read.

VESPASIAN THE CHAD

Josephus's capture by Rome is an interesting story to begin with. Josephus was a convert to Hebrewism and not a bloodline son of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. He tells a very detailed report of what happened during the Jewish Wars and the sacking of Jerusalem. Josephus also informs us about Yeshua; that Yeshua was short, not so handsome and black, totally the opposite of how Rome has depicted Yeshua..

@halohair1118

4 жыл бұрын

Can you send that to me by any chance?

@hisglory3168

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve read Josephus’s works and he never gave a description of Jesus of Nazareth.

@zephyr-117sdropzone8

Жыл бұрын

That isn't Jesus lol. Different guy. Josephus doesn't describe Jesus

@LDavis-dd7lq

Жыл бұрын

@@zephyr-117sdropzone8 Josephus does describe Jesus & so does the Bible. Lol.

Being Cesar was dangerous.

Did josephus record every eye seeing HIS return? Perhaps the splitting of mt. of olives or the two witnesses? Details....???

@Sam-fp8zm

Жыл бұрын

No but because of the tense language in the bible we know it happened.

@truthorbounce

Жыл бұрын

@@Sam-fp8zm you know mt of olives split in half and you actually believe HE already returned and there is no record of it? Ridiculous.

@Sam-fp8zm

Жыл бұрын

@@truthorbounce well the verse in zechariah about mot of olives splitting in half says "god will stand on mt of olives" it didnt say jesus. if you look at the context it had to of happened. maybe it was spiritual.

@Sam-fp8zm

Жыл бұрын

@@truthorbounce yeh on another look i dont know... i have to look at it again...

@Sam-fp8zm

Жыл бұрын

it mentions the festival of tabernacles and also the Lords house aka the physical temple so it already happened.

I wonder why he called the land of Israel by the name Palestine when that name only came about after WW2. I got another question: why would he mentioned the cosmic signs and speak of comets that appeared in AD60 and AD66? The ones Jesus spoke of would occur after the abomination and after the tribulation of those days. Jesus said that the time he spoke of would be the worst ever and would never be matched. 1.1 million killed in AD70 was eclipsed by the WW2 holocaust and both events will be eclipsed by what is coming. So far I have watched 4 of his videos. How many will I have to view before he says what he believes?

@GreenTaqwa

4 жыл бұрын

Lmaoo Palestine has been the name of the holy land way before WW1 and WW2, do some research...

@patricechappell8579

3 жыл бұрын

BTW it is Palestine then and now

@coopshomestead4176

3 жыл бұрын

@@GreenTaqwa @Patrice Chappell thanks for the suggestion to do some research. I ran across some pretty good info. www.levitt.com/essays/palestine "Palestine, therefore, must now be considered a political propaganda term with massive anti-Israel implications. The world press uses the term to question the legitimacy of modern Israel. Christians also have used the term Palestine for centuries in referring to the Holy Land. In earlier times this might have been excused (although biblically questionable) because of its common usage. In light of the current propaganda war against Israel, however, Christians must now re-evaluate the term Palestine and consider whether it is biblically, theologically or prophetically accurate."

@GreenTaqwa

3 жыл бұрын

Coop's Homestead I don’t understand u Christians u support Israel but the Jews don’t even believe in Jesus matter of fact they tried 2 kill him. Why are u ppl support axis or evil?

@coopshomestead4176

3 жыл бұрын

@@GreenTaqwa That question is not a hard one to answer, Christians love the land of Israel because God choose that location to be His own land. He put His name in the city of Jerusalem forever. Christians are waiting for the return of Christ. When He comes back, He is coming to Jerusalem and will rule the world from there for 1000 years. Israel has made and is still making some bad choices concerning Father God and His Son Jesus and that is not going to work out too well for them. In the last few years leading up to Jesus' return, 2/3 of them will be killed according to their prophet Zechariah but those that are left will see Jesus standing on the Mount of Olives and the scars in His hands and sides will prove they had been wrong. The New Testament says they will be saved in a day. Those left are called the remnant and will live and worship Christ during Christ's reign over the earth. I love Israel because Father God loves Israel and in His mercy He is not through with them yet.

Noise in the Camp? People that charge you to pray, Make my stomach cramp! They make you tithe and go a stray? I hear "NOISE" in the camp! The religious people killed My Savior.... And screamed let his blood be on our hands? Jews and Gentiles treated Jesus bad, The best friend they ever had!! I wonder how many church people will be left behind?? When God's people are Raptured How many loving people will, Jesus find? It is gettin' late, Many hesitate and with horrific Fate... And follow the teacher in a fancy suit! They are a branch,with no root! On Judgement day,who will they Blame? They mixed politics with, Religion, They played the game! They became a stool pigeon. God has heard, The, "Noise in The Camp", They will be thrown off the Ramp, Into a forever "Lake of Fire", But today they follow, The highest buyer?? The "meek" will always win, Down-trodden, with a glorified Grin! Today,the noise is loud, The arrogant and proud, I watch and wait, Waiting for heaven's gate, Surrounded by pretenders, In a blind ignorance, They have a, God, Sealed fate! Your eternal friend.. Old Jake...

It is funny that no one questions what Josephus says. 😅

@netsolvea6395

4 жыл бұрын

I agree..we are to receive the truth of prophesied events from a 1st century secular historian? Perhaps secular is debatable but he certainly wasn't a follower of Jesus. This to me is somewhat rediculous. Jesus was prophecying the same as the OT prophets and spoke of short term and long term fulfillments. Did the tribes see him and mourn? Nonsense, if they had, there would be an account besides Josephus.. I would also add that shouldn't we see this account littered throughout the first centuries church writings? Why did they hold to a future coming of Jesus?

@robd7409

3 жыл бұрын

No kidding! Josephus wrote that the temple burned down. That's it! I read it myself. How on earth does a temple made of giant stones "burn down"? It's utterly absurd on its face. So why would I believe anything else he says?

@waltjones40

3 жыл бұрын

@@netsolvea6395 you should read them. The fall of Jerusalem was a proof of Christ's legitimacy.

@waltjones40

3 жыл бұрын

@@robd7409 go back and read what the Temple was built of. It wasn't just stone.

@GazGuitarz

3 жыл бұрын

@@robd7409 the Romans, like those empires preceding them, knew how to burn stone buildings and cities. Jericho is an example. The heat becomes so fierce the stones crack and even melt in some cases.

futurist demons attack the mind

@turtletype720

2 жыл бұрын

'' the last days according to jesus christ'' written by rc sproul. very good

Partial Preterists believe that God judged the Jews first. Then he judged the Romans. Now he is judging the whole world.

Now understand. Until the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ. From 1948. Nobody could defeat Israel. Amos 9 :14-15 The Restoration of Israel 14 “Also I shall bring back the exiles of My people Israel, And they will rebuild the deserted and ruined cities and inhabit them: They will also plant vineyards and drink their wine, And make gardens and eat their fruit. 15 “I will also plant them on their land, And they shall never again be uprooted from their land Which I have given them,” Says the Lord your God. Zechariah 12 :3 Jerusalem to Be Attacked 3 And in that day I will make Jerusalem a heavy stone for all the peoples; all who lift it will be severely injured. And all the nations of the earth will come and be gathered against it. The 1967 Six-Day War Israel defeated the Arab armies, gained territory four times its original size, and became the preeminent military power in the region. [][],.,.,.,..,,..,.,.,.,.,

Dude get to the point….Liberty fellowship MT speaks truth on this topic brothers!!

If you’ve ever been to ‘Palestine’? Why would he call Israel by that name?

In AD70 there was no such place called Palestine so Sproul was mistaken on the occasions he talked about Palestine existing at that time. The name Palestine did not exist until AD135 when as an insult to the Jews and as part of punishing them for their rebellion, the Romans named the region after the Jews' traditional enemy the Philistines. This is a common error and leads to another common error which is the assumption that Palestine was every a country and had subjects called Palestinians - neither assumption is true.

@rhondaclark716

3 жыл бұрын

Jesus is white. Revelations 1:12 to 16. And. The oldest bones in America was whites. White mummies TOCHARIANS and indo of China. By survive the jive. DNA results of ancient Native American mummies Robert Sephehr,,we was slaves in almost every nation on earth in Africa still in America. America history the biggest lie in history Babylon

@rhondaclark716

3 жыл бұрын

So where did these terrorist come from ?

@Ps119

3 жыл бұрын

@@rhondaclark716 . They are Arabic speakers from Arabia. The native language in the Holy land is Hebrew

@Sam-fp8zm

Жыл бұрын

Palestina appears in the KJV old testament.

Height. Not heighth. 😊👍🏻

There are no comets remember we have a solid firmament above us.

@joshhigdon4951

3 жыл бұрын

There are things in which we call comets that are indeed in the sky. As to what they are, we can only speculate. I remember the Hale Bopp very well and was amazed each day when I saw it. It was certainly there. I do believe in the same thing you are referencing, but you cannot try to exegete a change of history because this "comet" was certainly there. As was Hale Bopp.

@brucedressel8873

Жыл бұрын

@@joshhigdon4951 I am not not exegeting anything just stating the obvious.

@joshhigdon4951

Жыл бұрын

@@brucedressel8873 if it were obvious then everyone would be on board. As it is, comets are real. As to what they are, I cannot tell you but to say something that everyone else can see isnt there is delusional.

😂😂😂 rc hair was on point

What's happening there is vengeance for 70 ad. "Certain" are settling a score, with their neighbors, who in their holy literature are said they are not human, and, only bear the country's name, the Roman's gave it. Talk about obvious.

The hot mess of reformed eschatology.

God destroyed Jerusalem in 722 BC and 586 BC, by the Assyrian army and the Babylonian army (Isaiah, Jeremiah, Job, Kings, Chronicles, Psalms); and, he destroyed it again in 70 AD (see: The Gospels), by the Roman legions, led by Titus and Vespasian. I don't recall in the Scriptures where it says God will destroy it again. Of course Rome fell in 410 AD. "Fallen, fallen, is Babylon the Great." And Constantonople fell in 1453.

@Sam-fp8zm

Жыл бұрын

Babylon the great is Jerusalem. Full preterists acknowledge that but they say it is referring to 70 AD. I dont think it has happened yet.

Can anyone tell me.. WhY woUld God allOw roMan capTure aNd deStroy Jerusalem? Can anyone? AnyoNe? I don't thiNk 🤔 sO....

@Uiilo7509

2 жыл бұрын

@ entire Bible? 🤗So you read the entire Bible? Ohhh! 🥴💩Wow... What do you mean read entire Bible? Are you okay? 🤭Are felling well? Feeling sick?

@Uiilo7509

2 жыл бұрын

@ there's no person in the world 🗺 read 📖 whole entire Bible..

MacArthur has it right (as usual). Daniel's 70th Week is yet unfulfilled. That 7 years begins with a peace treaty allowing the Jews to rebuild the temple one last time (before the Millennial Kingdom). The events of 70 AD hardly fulfilled the prophecy of The Revelation, which was written about 20 years later.

@L.Fontein7

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I find it interesting that RC said at the very beginning of the series that he was not going to go near Daniel's 70 week.

@fzr1000981

Жыл бұрын

Daniel's 70th Week is key to proper understanding of Revelation. Why does God need to supernaturally convert 144,000 Jewish virgin men if the Church is still here? No one has ever been able to answer that question without insane contortions

as messianic jew i love Ligonier ministries but i have to correct sproul the pharasies or aka the p'rushim in hebrew were also cohen google rabbi ishmael ben elisha he was apart of p'rushim and cohen the cohen levim srent a sect but a blood line dynasty

@remnantcoptic

6 ай бұрын

arent*

I don’t believe he is correct and if all of this is already passed, why are we all still here? Believe what you want.

@Kenayi22

3 жыл бұрын

Well said mate. It's a shame to see so-called believers accept this garbage.

@P.H.888

3 жыл бұрын

The New Covenant is Eternal.

@dionsanchez4478

3 жыл бұрын

Ah because you are to make disciples and witness to the truth of God.

@DavidKing-qd3sp

3 жыл бұрын

In Matthew 24 Christ mixed the future of Jerusalem and the end of the world together - so some of the same events will happen again but there are also distinctions to be made. The events RC. Sproul is referring to did happen with the Lisbon earthquake in 1755 - it was the largest ever recorded ...there was the great eclipse / dark day of may 19 1780 and that night the moon had the appearance of blood -look this up on google...so some things passed in AD 70 but others throughout history

It took the Romans three years to build a siege ramp...in that time the Hebrews ran out of food and they ate all the children...fulllfilling Christ's prophecy....he stumbled and fell to his knees...when he carried the cross ...a woman crying for him wiped his face...he told her ...do not cry for me..instead cry for the mothers with milk in their breast..but have no babies....?.....the cannibalism is what he meant...

@trafficjon400

4 жыл бұрын

They eat the born. sick evil. we are saints today . compare. i can see the hem flight plane cash cannibalisim.

@GreenTaqwa

4 жыл бұрын

Kabbalah is still practiced today and they still eat children

It's amazing Matt 24:2, Mark 13:2, Luke 19:44, and Luke 21:6 all say there was not one stone left upon another but all these guys make whole bible studies claiming prophesy has been fulfilled. This is a wake up call for anyone that can read without religious blinders. These guys are in error. This is end time prophecy not ad70 fulfillment.

@ManuGeorge777

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately some can't think beyond the evil dispensationalism which separated the Jews from the Church and expects the Temple to be rebuilt and animal sacrifices to be reinstated.

@kevinboutwell2243

Жыл бұрын

@@ManuGeorge777 Kinda sounds like you want to prove peter and paul are preaching the same gospel. I’ll go first with a sliver of proof and you can debunk all the evil. Look at what Jesus gave Paul 1 Cor 3:10According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 11For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. We already know theres a foundation of Jesus Christ according to prophecy and his covenant with Israel. Jesus is already crucified and in heaven. The 12 are still teaching their kingdom of heaven gospel and now Jesus has Paul tell us theres another foundation and Paul laid it. Paul tells us what this foundation is in Rom 16:25-26. 25Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, 26But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: Jesus has Paul tell us this is Pauls gospel and its the preaching of Jesus Christ according to the revelation of the mystery kept secret since the world began. This eliminates any possibility of a legitimate claim Paul is teaching the same gospel as Peters. Whoever claims this is a liar. Here’s the bottom line. This gospel Paul is given is 1 Cor 15:1-4 we are saved if we believe Jesus died for all our sins was buried and rose again the third day unless we believed in vain. Believing you aren’t sealed and having to endure to the end is a clear sign you have believed in vain. Your turn.

@kevinboutwell2243

Жыл бұрын

@@ManuGeorge777 Manu George I suggest next time before making your nany nany boo boo comment about dispensations you get a clue about your bible. At least you could attempt a answer then.

@matthewsouthwell3500

9 ай бұрын

​@@kevinboutwell22431 Corinthians 3:10-11 10According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I have laid the foundation, and another builds on it. But let each one take heed how he builds on it. 11For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 1 Peter 2:4-8 4Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, 5you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6Therefore it is also contained in the Scripture, “Behold, I lay in Zion A chief cornerstone, elect, precious, And he who believes on Him will by no means be put to shame.” 7Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious; but to those who [b]are disobedient, “The stone which the builders rejected Has become the chief cornerstone,” 8and “A stone of stumbling And a rock of offense.” They stumble, being disobedient to the word, to which they also were appointed. Ephesians 2:19-22 19Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, 21in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, 22in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit. - Peter and Paul indeed preached the same gospel.

@matthewsouthwell3500

9 ай бұрын

​@@kevinboutwell2243Ephesians 3:1-7 1For this reason I, Paul, the prisoner of Christ Jesus for you Gentiles- 2if indeed you have heard of the [a]dispensation of the grace of God which was given to me for you, 3how that by revelation He made known to me the mystery (as I have briefly written already, 4by which, when you read, you may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ), 5which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets: 6that the Gentiles should be fellow heirs, of the same body, and partakers of His promise in Christ through the gospel, 7of which I became a minister according to the gift of the grace of God given to me by the effective working of His power. - "as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets" - "His holy apostles..." - Who are His apostles? - This "mystery" was not limited to Paul. The emphasis on who they were sent to, though Peter also preached to Gentiles and Paul preached to Jews. - For you to say that Peter and Paul did not preach the same gospel is concerning, because it seems as if you do not understand the gospel if you cannot hear how much in agreement they truly are. 1 Corinthians 1:10-13 10Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all [d]speak the same thing, and that there be no [e]divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. 11For it has been declared to me concerning you, my brethren, by those of Chloe’s household, that there are [f]contentions among you. 12Now I say this, that each of you says, “I am of Paul,” or “I am of Apollos,” or “I am of Cephas,” or “I am of Christ.” 13Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul? - This discourse on sectarianism is continued in 1 Corinthians 3, where Paul calls those engaging in that behavior carnal, and then says: "no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ." Amen. Peter preached Christ crucified and resurrected, how one can read through Acts or Peter's epistles and miss that is astounding.

It all ended in AD 70. Jesus and the first century disciples did everything needed to fulfill Yahweh's plan of redemption given exclusively to ancient Israelites cursed with the Old Covenant Law of sin and death. I'm so thankful that I've never been a biblical sinner under the curse of the Old Covenant Law of sin and death, never needing salvation/redemption for sins I've never committed as I've never been an ancient Israelite cursed with the Old Covenant Law.