Fun fact: Alonso went on to win the next race in Japan completely on merit, so this was made redundant, contractually-wise

Hill, Senna and Prost slowly emerging from the abyss after hearing championships can be overturned

Massa has stated he doesn't want the Championship overturned, it's too late for that. He has stated that he simply wants answers from the FIA and this was the only way to get them.

I suggest looking into NASCAR’s 2013 “spin-gate” scandal. Basically, it was NASCAR’s own version of “crash-gate” and it also resulted in some wild and weird af officiating decisions.

The thing I find amazing is how Alonso has been a mere bystander at more than one of F1's biggest controversies... always a beneficiary of them but seemingly never knowing or being involved

The hardest part about all this is that the people who benefited (or lost) the most from this crash were all innocent parties. It's so much easier when its the winner who has cheated.

He should be banned for life. Alonso knew and was part of it.

Honestly. I hope Massa actually goes for it. i'm going to have laughing material for years if he actually becomes World Champion 15 years later.

Not entirely related but I still think it’s mad that Carlos essentially said deliberate crashes still happen and nothing came of it

whos here after massa filed a lawsuit

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I understand Massa's point, and as a brazilian, that title still haunts me. But I honestly don't think anything will come out of it and Massa himself is not actually trying to be called world champ. It's about the message, accountability. It's about F1 owning their screw ups and actually doing something so it won't happen again.

Fun fact:

2 things were left out:

Surprised you didn’t mention what Nelson Jr did afterwards.

Michael Schmidt from Auto Motor und Sport recently revealed more to the timeline. Nelson Piquet jr. confessed it to him directly after the race on the condition that he won’t say anything. He realized what he had done and was really scared to call his father. Also 50% of the journalists suspected that this was planned but didn’t have any proof.

Crashgate and it's outcome still hurts.

I know everyone says Massa would be champion if the race was cancelled or Renault didn't fix it, but...

I was living in Singapore at the time and was at this race. Everyone was just so buzzed to have F1 cars racing the streets for the first time. The "accident" also happened right in front of where I was sitting at the Marina Bay stand, so close I always remember the smell of the burnt rubber. We all just thought it was an odd place to crash, a low speed corner. Nobody thought anything until it all came out with Piquet's admittance. Crazy stuff. F1 golden rule....you never ever deliberately crash.

For people who didn't watch F1 in the refueling days: the reason Massa got a penalty for dragging the fuel hose down the pitlane is because whenever the fuel hose was attached, the car's fuel system was entirely open. A tiny mishap would have meant Massa's car, and basically the entire pitlane blowing up, which thankfully, did not happen. This was also among the final nail in the coffin for refueling, (also the 2009 Brazilian GP, where Kovalainen's McLaren also got released while the fuel hose was still attached, spraying Kimi's car with fuel and igniting it for a few seconds) people have been calling for it to be removed from F1 as it made races more dull, most overtakes happening in the pitlane, and there have been way too many accidents for it to be kept in the sport. The whole "refueling makes races more exciting" argument is void, because that's mostly just nostalgia.