The "Definitive" Primarch Tier List | Warhammer 40k ft. Angel_Angron

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This took us a while to come around but we agreed on making a tier list that would represent the most accurate raking of 40k's big daddys according to the lore. That is until the new Horus Heresy books com out.( PS: this was recorded before Fulgrim's return). Hope you enjoy it
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1:52 Lion El' Jonson
7:39 Fulgrim
13:45 Perturabo
19:43 Jaghatai Khan
25:01 Leman Russ
31:13 Rogal Dorn
34:26 Konrad Kurze
37:52 Sanguinius
43:37 Ferrus Manus
46:44 Angron
56:44 Roboute Guilliman
1:03:05 Mortarion
1:07:13 Magnus The Red
1:10:44 Horus Lupercal
1:16:45 Lorgar Aurelian
1:23:30 Vulkan
1:25:50 Corvus Corax
1:27:10 Alpharius Omegon
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  • @Gozkiel
    @Gozkiel Жыл бұрын

    The best way to describe Perturabo is "He gets shit done."

  • @Channel-23s

    @Channel-23s

    Жыл бұрын

    One word “Results” another is *SLUGFEST*

  • @josephgatts1679
    @josephgatts1679 Жыл бұрын

    1:52 Sleeping Beauty 7:41 Griffith 13:47 Peter Griffin 19:45 Harley Davidson 25:05 Furry 31:17 Ron Swanson 34:30 "I can see the futURE!" 37:53 Heavy flow 43:40 Omnissiah Simp. 46:43 Servitor Primarch 56:49 Leslie Knope 1:03:09 2020 1:07:19 The well read. The Red. Freaking puns. 1:10:47 Lex Luthor 1:16:47 Behelit 1:23:36 Red Eyes Black Dragon 1:25:54 Nathan Explosion 1:27:06 Tucker from Red Vs. Blue

  • @dragozaf88

    @dragozaf88

    Жыл бұрын

    Doing the lords work

  • @berilsevvalbekret772

    @berilsevvalbekret772

    Жыл бұрын

    God dude this is glorious.

  • @mehmetaskar1356

    @mehmetaskar1356

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks. Guessing this was fun

  • @zaxbitterzen2178
    @zaxbitterzen2178 Жыл бұрын

    Perturabo NEVER wanted to be an instrument of war, but the big-E couldn't have two Rogal Dorn's so Perturabo got the ultimate shafting in become the pre-eminent siege god of the Imperium. Even spending ages doing something he absolutely hated he was still the absolute best at it. Not to mention that he almost won every major fight he was ever in even with other primarchs. Perturabo is the definition of overcoming ALL the adversity towards those who spurned and discarded him with the biggest middle finger.

  • @dragozaf88

    @dragozaf88

    Жыл бұрын

    100% agree S tier all the way

  • @allytank-itykitty7417

    @allytank-itykitty7417

    Жыл бұрын

    Tbh I think that he was the true omnissiah, his ingenuity and intellect for machines and architecture was far beyond anything seen before, the siege of Terra failed because horus gave command of the siege to morty... And that was the last straw perty just got fed up with everyone and left the siege... Then it fell apart, oh and he was the only one keeping most of his brothers together for the siege. I think because he is a traitor, he had to get a crappy and spiteful lore, not a whole well thought out piece. Most of the traitor primarch are just mustache twirling villans from what I see.

  • @marmyeater

    @marmyeater

    Жыл бұрын

    @@allytank-itykitty7417 Omnissaiah is the void dragon bro.

  • @allytank-itykitty7417

    @allytank-itykitty7417

    Жыл бұрын

    @@marmyeater yeah he was, but the emperor took the title and I wonder if the Perry could claim it just as easily. Pretty sure his warp spirit was a machine and engineering God in some way.

  • @marmyeater

    @marmyeater

    Жыл бұрын

    @@allytank-itykitty7417 Big E didn't take the title, he LIED to get them on his side. If I call myself the president or king of England it doesn't make it so.

  • @Zero-tk1hb
    @Zero-tk1hb Жыл бұрын

    Dear lord i don't think i ever laughed and enjoyed a tier list vídeo this much. This is just gold

  • @tomaskalafus8940
    @tomaskalafus8940 Жыл бұрын

    I have an Iron Hands army & I like Iron hands aesthetics very much and I must agree with both of you, It saddens me how Ferrus is portrayed in the lore. I wish he was a more interesting character...

  • @serronserron1320

    @serronserron1320

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah that's the problem he doesn't have much time to shine because he loses his head

  • @Fordo007
    @Fordo007 Жыл бұрын

    Wasn't Ferrus supposed to be one of the Emperor's favorites and someone he liked getting council from? And Gulliman had him as one of his Dauntless Few? When will we ever see THAT Ferrus? Also the Alpharius primarch novel made him one of my top 3.

  • @dragozaf88

    @dragozaf88

    Жыл бұрын

    yes ferrus is SAID to be a lot of things, be we never get to see it. i think the ship has sailed on that bit.

  • @serronserron1320

    @serronserron1320

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Flamerule13th Or was it demon Fuldrum role playing the whole time as some weird fetish, rom the future .

  • @Darkxarcher

    @Darkxarcher

    2 ай бұрын

    Head of the hydra is amazing and he's in my top 5 cuz of it

  • @martinrudolph5938
    @martinrudolph5938 Жыл бұрын

    I genuinely think GW makes Guilliman not as impressive in feats of strenght from his brothers to blindside you to his insane actual achievements, I mean the 500 worlds of Ultramar are not only 5 0 0 worlds under constant watch and relative control but also probably some of the best worlds a human could ask to live in, in this grimdark universe. None of his brothers can hold a candle to achieving even a glimpse of what the Imperium is about, an e m p i r e of mankind a place where humanity makes its stand. Where his brothers shine as warriors, strategists and architects of war Guilliman is conqueror, ruler and mason of progress. Guilliman is the only one that truly understood the assignment the Emperor gave to his sons and excelled at it while being much less of an asshole than his dad.

  • @serronserron1320

    @serronserron1320

    Жыл бұрын

    True he's a master of politics and logistics and he held his own against two brothers at once. But he didn't start out from scratch with Ultramar. His own adopted daddy already was in control of a stellar empire with at least 100 worlds. Most of his brothers started out on primitive or poor worlds with few resources. Only Dorn, Magnus and maybe Alpharius and Horace had multi world empires. Corax, Faris, Fulgrim, Konrad, Vulkan and Angron had galactic trade with merchant ships. Not that mattered to Angron.

  • @pablo1006pr

    @pablo1006pr

    10 ай бұрын

    @@serronserron1320 where id that from, macragge did had limited space flight but it only kept comunications with some near systems but i dont remember in any novel that by the time konor ruled maccrage it had any world annexed. i am pretty sure ultramar only came to be after konor's death

  • @serronserron1320

    @serronserron1320

    10 ай бұрын

    @@pablo1006pr I remember it mostly from the book Fulgrim: The Palatine Phoenix. Fulgrim was jealous that Chemos was not the respectable multiplanet Empire that Dorn and Guilliman were in charge of before the Emperor showed up. Inwit and Macragge had their own fleets. Which means that they had they're own Navigator houses and knowledge of that level of technology.

  • @marmyeater
    @marmyeater Жыл бұрын

    The Leman Russ Rune Priest thing is: his people (and those of the Khan), had mystic practices that didn't involve trying to over reach and just jump into the deep end. They had practices and procedures that were tried, tested, and proved. MAGNUS, as much as I sympathize with him, thought he could do no wrong and never BE wrong no matter how or where he delved into the Warp, and even insulted their practices as completely inferior. Russ had every right to be distrustful and angry, and I'm told that after learning he was tricked into trying to wipe out his brother he felt genuine regret for letting his feelings blind him.

  • @serronserron1320

    @serronserron1320

    Жыл бұрын

    lol No. The Rune priests went too far with bargaining with Warp entities in the gates of Morkai. Maybe they were World spirits but they were still malicious, forcing Russ to sacrifice a heart and a part of his being. Kind of like how Magnus gave up an eye. They did have an ignorant misbegotten arrogance when it came to their own practices, somewhat similar to the Thousand sons being fooled by demons.

  • @declanlee6894

    @declanlee6894

    Жыл бұрын

    Confirmed furry.

  • @berilsevvalbekret772

    @berilsevvalbekret772

    Жыл бұрын

    You mean practises including DEFINANTLY A DAEMON 'World Spirit' of Fenris? The problem with Rune Priests they are both hypocrites and ignorant. Magnus while dived too deep recklessly was right. Innovation IS needed and as we saw he was right about the fate of Imperium too.

  • @FoxHound-ut1hu
    @FoxHound-ut1hu Жыл бұрын

    Honestly I don't think there's enough credit given to Russ, the mans nuanced, well written and has an amazing arc. When he goes all out he's a fucking beast while also being incredibly cunning. He broke Magnus, played Angron and brought Horus to his knees there are few others in the entire setting capable of doing the same.

  • @freudlindell6343

    @freudlindell6343

    Жыл бұрын

    But he did not take the chance to end the Heresy because "UUH HES MY BWOTHAH, I CANT KILL HIM", I think Chill and AA brought that up a few times

  • @FoxHound-ut1hu

    @FoxHound-ut1hu

    Жыл бұрын

    @@freudlindell6343 He kills Horus and it's a major blow to the traitors but someone else immediately replaces him, he saves Horus and brings him back to the loyalist side that completely turns the Heresy on its head. It was worth the risk especially when he had already achieved his goal. And shit it's not like Russ is the only one the Lion refused to kill both Curze and Luther.

  • @serronserron1320

    @serronserron1320

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FoxHound-ut1hu Russ does not kill Horace he injures Horace. Horace's death is more because his body is being affected by the powers of Chaos. Ironically Magnus was holding back from killing Russ And Russ was holding back from killing Horus .

  • @FoxHound-ut1hu

    @FoxHound-ut1hu

    Жыл бұрын

    @@serronserron1320 Magnus was very specifically holding nothing back: "It seemed as though the combatants had swollen to enormous proportions, like the giants they were in the myths and legends. The Wolf King’s frostblade struck at Magnus, but his golden axe turned the blow aside as they spun and twisted in an epic battle beneath the madness of a blazing storm of sheet lightning and pounding thunder. This was a battle fought on every level: physical, mental and spiritual, with each primarch bending every ounce of their almost limitless power to the other’s destruction." Horus was having to be stuffed to the brim with chaotic powers after he got his wound off Russ and it was slowly killing him.

  • @serronserron1320

    @serronserron1320

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FoxHound-ut1hu The soul of Horace had been stripped into pieces that each of the Chaos gods laid claim over. The psychic spear had wounded him but it was really the trauma of Horus and the sundering of his spirit that was the problem. Maloghurst had to Get the attention of Horus's conscience. And Maloghurst had to sacrifice himself to bring the War Master back

  • @gokbay3057
    @gokbay3057 Жыл бұрын

    5:40 I mean he did live a good part of his life alone in the forest before Luther found him. But still, it is true. Lion was the Emperor's mini-me to such a degree that he pretty much had his own Horus Heresy.

  • @malmasterson3890

    @malmasterson3890

    7 ай бұрын

    Still, they didn't give him nearly enough credit considering the Dark Angels were so well crafted as a legion they were with The Lion leading.

  • @wolflordgio6320
    @wolflordgio6320 Жыл бұрын

    The Space Wolves still had a few thousand after assaulting the vengeful spirit they arrived at that battle with 40 thousand marines and retreated with around 17k.

  • @dragozaf88

    @dragozaf88

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the fact check ! Fenris hjolda !

  • @serronserron1320

    @serronserron1320

    Жыл бұрын

    The books are inconsistent with the numbers of legionaries in the legions and the descriptions of how they are affected by certain wars and battles. .

  • @berilsevvalbekret772
    @berilsevvalbekret772 Жыл бұрын

    Khan is the GOAT. And as a Magnus fangirl his friendahip/brotherhood with big red is just beautiful and the conversation he had with the Shard of Magnus brought tears to my eyes. Small correction Fulgrim wasn't really trying to kill Dorn. I LOVE Sigismund but the idiot made Black Templars sooo... yyeeeaaahhh weaponized authism indeed. Hey now Magnus's situation is way more complicated than that and writers NEEDED him to fall so he has to be stupid in certain moments....unfortunately. He didn't fuck up too badly with the warp until Leman break his back.

  • @AzraelSoulHunter
    @AzraelSoulHunter Жыл бұрын

    I for one think Russ deserves more love. His character growth, his journey through the heresy are to me one of it's finest parts and he ACTUALLY CHANGES unlike any other primarch. He is able to see his flaws and move passed them and his regret over killing Magnus lets him become someone more than an executioner. But no, it's another case of "Read A Thousand Sons Once" which is a big problem in this community. As for Rune Priests. Two things. First off, what they are doing IS different from Thousand Sons. They have limitations on them and treat the Warp with caution unlike Thousand Sons which were overusing it and even cleaning their guns with it and letting people use it to run restaurants I believe. That is EXTREMELY dangerous use of the Warp. And there is something on Fenris which sort of filters the Warp that Rune Priests use. There is a spirit on that planet which can be tied to DAOT or could be something else.

  • @serronserron1320

    @serronserron1320

    Жыл бұрын

    Regardless he still remains a loose cannon spoiled by his uncle Malcador who allows him and his bone rattling priests to get away with a lot. And by the end he becomes a drunken violent recluse, until something calls him on a quest to the Warp. I would say I would say that many of the primarchs have transformative arcs. Sanguinius comes to terms with the conditions of his Legion, possibly replacing his father as an Emperor and the different prophecies that he could take.

  • @takthechroniker456
    @takthechroniker456 Жыл бұрын

    45:50 "Like at his stupid little ghost face. He looks like a skull ghost. A skooost."

  • @SebastianA.W.
    @SebastianA.W. Жыл бұрын

    hey you are really polishing your editing skills. very impressed with this one. this dude did russ and the lion dirty. the emperor himself esitated to kill horus when his carisma shone trough. the whole "chaos flees his body" is a way of the powers to use horus true strengt as in charming their adversary. russ was under the charm of horus when he esitated... because that is the power of horus. also... if russ would not had shanked him, horus would not have been the bloatlord we see at the siege, i bet you that.

  • @wiccanthropy1956
    @wiccanthropy1956 Жыл бұрын

    Perturabo truly is the only s tier traitor. Although, as a leader of men, lorgar would place higher for me than f tier maybe even go up to C tier. He is a leader of men. He is a commander who, when he does something, is followed to literal self sacrificial ends by his sons and mortal followers.

  • @consolescrub4031
    @consolescrub4031 Жыл бұрын

    I mostly concur with what would be a satisfying fate for erebus but in an ideal world I would want him to get mortally wounded by someone with either no ego or no significant reputation (Kharn or Dante would be a good candidate for the first option, most secondary characters would be fine for the second although I would particularly enjoy an alpha legionaire like Kassar). Once mortally wounded he is then tempted by distorted daemonic voices to form a bond with them for survival (which will surely go well for him being destiny's hand and such). He accepts and gets possessed by the daemon who now identifies itself as Raum who basically takes over the body and puts erebus in the passenger seat before just getting him to stand up and take a melta gun shot to the chest or something before taking his soul back into the warp with him in retribution for Argel Tal. That's the dream anyway. Warhammer doesn't tend to give characters the ends I would want but I can hope. Death by nids would also be acceptable as long as he doesn't get to make a big show out of it.

  • @pablo1006pr
    @pablo1006pr10 ай бұрын

    robute is better than most because he has two qualities no other primarch had, common sense and a mom (tarasha euten could beat the emperor in a battle of wits), he is also the most human primarch, not the most connected to hummanity but the most human.

  • @krisztiansturm1690
    @krisztiansturm1690 Жыл бұрын

    3:27 being smart doesn't mean that you can't make mindblowingly dumb decisions

  • @dragozaf88

    @dragozaf88

    Жыл бұрын

    Fair point

  • @samuelguillen7586
    @samuelguillen7586 Жыл бұрын

    -Lion social problem not is because he grow in a death world its because when he have contact with humans he was adult not like his brothers that grow on death world but meet people fast or the instant they landed -Funny that dont mention that Perturabo rebel againts him but mock of Lion getting betray? also dont mention the killing of his own men when they meet his legion just because they have less victories than other legions i get bored at this point

  • @flaviusiacob1558
    @flaviusiacob1558 Жыл бұрын

    Cool video guys!!!

  • @tomseppanen2316
    @tomseppanen2316 Жыл бұрын

    Iron hands can have some interesting characters, mine would be Autek Mor. Because he yeeted moon on top of world eaters. And Sabik Wayland ho was a part of a assassination of Fulgrim where they shot him thru his skull in Angel exterminatus. And foiled Abbadons plans on the moon Luna to acquire genetech.

  • @serronserron1320

    @serronserron1320

    Жыл бұрын

    Shadrak Meduson's warband strike force did as much damage to the Sons of Horus as any of the large loyalist legion.

  • @minigree8468
    @minigree8468 Жыл бұрын

    Vulkan also saved Guiliboi's adopted mother

  • @kapoleon83
    @kapoleon83 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting take on Lion:)

  • @andersonborba2060
    @andersonborba20608 ай бұрын

    Awesome tier list. I'd put Vulkan a bit higher just on account of the legenday beating he gives Curse, after being imprisioned and tortured by the night haunt. Just to teleport into the lower atmosphere of Macragge

  • @Carnige32
    @Carnige32 Жыл бұрын

    This was absolutely fucking amazing great job

  • @cncmne7404
    @cncmne7404 Жыл бұрын

    Man , Kirioth is exploding internally at the Lorgar slander 😅

  • @kc3391
    @kc3391 Жыл бұрын

    Oh man I laughed so hard at the part about Nostromo people and Unckle Ruckus theme playing where they all talk XD that was awesome

  • @Choubock
    @Choubock Жыл бұрын

    Am gonna say two primarchs that i want to come back would be both Russ and El'Johnson because of how much the times have changed, one because how much the Space Wolves are doing without him and i honestly think that Russ must have been seriously humbled by age and time, hopefully giving him much needed character consolidation. El'johnson simply to see how much the Dark Angels have degraded because of his own decisions and to see his own failures in his sons like a messed up mirror and also for the LONG awaited talk between him and Luther, if most of the Fallen and the Dark Angels actually form a truce/alliance/become one legion again, oh boy that's gonna shake up some shit.

  • @jaysonyoungman8772
    @jaysonyoungman8772 Жыл бұрын

    I think the writers never really knew what to make of the lion's personality

  • @dragozaf88

    @dragozaf88

    Жыл бұрын

    Thats a great point !

  • @malmasterson3890

    @malmasterson3890

    7 ай бұрын

    They finally got it right in 40k. I still think that they should've ranked him higher just for how good the Dark Angels were under his command.

  • @zaxbitterzen2178
    @zaxbitterzen2178 Жыл бұрын

    Angron witb no nails with the Emperor aiding his revolt is a true powerhouse.

  • @danielmcdonald7152
    @danielmcdonald7152 Жыл бұрын

    Slaneesh is running a new sight called onlytents

  • @aguspuig6615
    @aguspuig66155 ай бұрын

    10:15 no no no no no. This shit is as cannon to me as the star wars sequels. The fact that his character does a full 180 for no reason and then turns out he wasnt even posessed, he really just became the oposite of himself is so stupid. I liked his fall because instead of being a full on traitor he had a moment of weakness and let himself be possessed, wich was original compared to other Primarchs, like you can see how Perturabo could flip from a kind of cold, but good guy that protects civilians, to a survival of the fittest type that kills anyone weaker than him, but Fulgrim, besides his insecurity and arrogance had nothing bad in his philosophy, the only way he becomes a traitor is by giving up, wich is a flaw on its own dont get me wrong, but he doesnt just become evil, during the whole great crusade hes about as morally good as it gets for a primarch, but they gave all his character away to have the saturday cartoon villain that likes all the sex and drugs because isnt that funny

  • @j0246
    @j0246 Жыл бұрын

    1:17:41 - this caught me off guard and now I can't stop laughing

  • @cncmne7404

    @cncmne7404

    Жыл бұрын

    Man this is a fact now , hard canon. Everywhere we see Kor Phaeron , he will have a face of EDP , everywhere. We must spread this to other channels to make it a meme.

  • @22I22
    @22I22 Жыл бұрын

    Hey are you familiar with Lemmino? He's got some interesting videos and I'm like to see your take on them if you haven't seen them before.

  • @nateberube5629
    @nateberube5629 Жыл бұрын

    What is the speech Sanguinius made at the foot of the palace that they're discussing at 39:50?

  • @dragozaf88

    @dragozaf88

    Жыл бұрын

    From the latest HH book, Echoes of eternity.

  • @TiernanWilkinson
    @TiernanWilkinson Жыл бұрын

    You put Dorn in S tier and the Khan in A so this is a good tier list.

  • @YOGI-kb9tg

    @YOGI-kb9tg

    Жыл бұрын

    Not to mention the slip up and saying iron fists

  • @tirasangue1
    @tirasangue1 Жыл бұрын

    You guys definitely should have kept a timeline of the book and audio indications, quite a bit.

  • @ericm3327
    @ericm33272 ай бұрын

    Sir, Rogal Dorn was given S tier. “Good”. *walks away*

  • @masonlindsey2431
    @masonlindsey2431 Жыл бұрын

    Magnus is a bad character in my eyes mostly because of the writers. He is a victim of the plot, writers use him to make their story beats and thus his personality and actions wildly fluctuate book to book. Making him seem either like an idiot or someone spineless who can't face the consequences of his own actions. In space wolves books he is mustache twirling evil or just silly. In his own books he needs to fall so the writers often force him to take blindingly stupid actions.

  • @berilsevvalbekret772

    @berilsevvalbekret772

    Жыл бұрын

    I LOVE the core of Magnus. Someone who is kind and compassionate and while arrogant WASN'T STUPID. I think he was at his best during MorningStar. Who KNOWS his power and understand its gravity Spiderman style. And people make it as if any TS fell to chaos before Burning of Prospero which NONE did. Flesh Change is a gene defect and until the end neither Magnus or TS were turned to chaos. Tzeench had a foot in the door nothing more. Magnus is my Fave alongside Khan and Sanguinius.

  • @colindarcas6532
    @colindarcas65328 ай бұрын

    Speaking of your rant on how we know little about the Rangdan Xenocide. I have a theory that it was a cover story to destroy the 2nd or 11th legion and that is why there is so little. Because no one questions the genocide of some random xeno species in the halo stars. First off it took so much firepower to complete the crusade which is exactly what could be expected of a legion and primarch fighting to their last man in a hail mary. Second, it took place in the Halo Stars which is not only a remote place that no one would venture to so there is no evidence to be recovered but it is chock-full of stuff that could be considered traitorous like the device that turns you into a fleah eating immortal or a possible xeno species that one of the lost legions came into contact with and allied with. If the emperor put to a vote with the primarchs to decide if the word bearers should be annihilated for worshipping him as a god then no doubt he would do the same for a legion that is fraturnizing with a xeno species.

  • @Or_Am_I_Alpharius
    @Or_Am_I_Alpharius Жыл бұрын

    Night Lords do have the funniest moments. Like I think it’s in The Lost and the Damned where the NL are about to assault one of the outer walls and during the flight there a raptor was like, “Yo I’m so fucking hyped for this jump assault, I’m gonna be the first one on the wall but god damn my feet fucking hurt.” And of course he gets demolished as soon as he lands lmao. Sevatar is a fucking beast too and his model is sick. The fact that the Atramentar are so dedicated to him that if a NL commander was any kind of clout post-heresy that they’ll need their approval

  • @trentthehehim3936
    @trentthehehim3936 Жыл бұрын

    Chad Abbadon is a retcon. Failbadon the Armless barley survived his duel with old man sigusmund.

  • @YOGI-kb9tg

    @YOGI-kb9tg

    Жыл бұрын

    Ironically that's not true abbadon has been planning the 13th black crusade from the first one and I'm not talking about cawl figuring out what all the crusades were about, GW was planning that for years and I mean years all the way back to I think 2007 a chaos book reveals what abbadon was planning all along and pointing out all the achievements like destroying the necron pylons which have been repelling the eye as well for literally years that is the major plot point of the second eisenhorn book

  • @trentthehehim3936

    @trentthehehim3936

    Жыл бұрын

    @@YOGI-kb9tg Yes the 13th crusade itself was, but back then it wasn’t called that. And Most of the implications given back then didn’t start reappearing until the retcons from my recollection. Of course there were MANY audible course corrections that had to have been made by GW, Failbadon lost to Cadia in game play. Which why Failbadon pulls a “flipping the monopoly board “ move with the black stone fortress.

  • @uberfeel
    @uberfeel Жыл бұрын

    This video was hilarious and entertaining. Is there anymore video with Angel_Angron? He looks like a very fun guy to watch 40k related stuff.

  • @TheChillzoneX

    @TheChillzoneX

    Жыл бұрын

    We are working on future content for you guys stay tuned 😉

  • @notribadsvault
    @notribadsvault7 ай бұрын

    The Lion has bad people skills because he was literally raised by nothing until he was found by the knights of Calaban as the Primarch equivalent of a late teen, even Russ had wolves.

  • @infectedumbrellagrunt3682
    @infectedumbrellagrunt3682 Жыл бұрын

    Oh the Space Wolves aren't purity incarnate, they're in the same boat as the Sororitas as having traitors and heretics that while are few and far between. They stick their heads up occasionally to do some shit, enter Skyrar's Dark Wolves warband.

  • @zaxbitterzen2178
    @zaxbitterzen217811 ай бұрын

    Mortarion hates pompous and reckless sorcery primarily.

  • @madmank7881
    @madmank7881 Жыл бұрын

    I love lion el Johnson and yes I'm autistic so that might be influencing my biased.

  • @manoelferr4611

    @manoelferr4611

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah man rogal dorn all the way , he is a 100% a asperger

  • @cellectra3342
    @cellectra334221 күн бұрын

    52:39 i wish we get a perfect clone of angron like we have on Fulgrim so we can see what he should've been

  • @shanepatrick4534
    @shanepatrick4534 Жыл бұрын

    @40:50 there is an STL 3D printable file of this moment.

  • @II-wu7mx
    @II-wu7mx Жыл бұрын

    Angron at b tier is a bit of a laugh but when you’re doing a video with angel angron I imagine there are some stipulations lol

  • @GRIMHOOD99
    @GRIMHOOD99 Жыл бұрын

    I like Dark Angels but Lion deserves the tier where he is. F him.

  • @dragozaf88

    @dragozaf88

    Жыл бұрын

    The dark angels are DOPE The lion is not.

  • @hunterwaguespack3963

    @hunterwaguespack3963

    Жыл бұрын

    Kinda how I feel about the space wolves lol

  • @paimonisfood4986

    @paimonisfood4986

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dragozaf88 The Lion brought the Dark Angels back to the top after he was discovered. Not to mention him being able to blend Caliban and the First Legion cultures smoothly is one thing to note of.

  • @GENERALx5H4DY
    @GENERALx5H4DY Жыл бұрын

    Can you and Guga Foods Just have a conversation and record it?

  • @pietervangorp267
    @pietervangorp2676 ай бұрын

    Hail Lorgar Aurelian and the Word Bearer's.

  • @thezebrathatgrunts96
    @thezebrathatgrunts965 ай бұрын

    Ohhh yea there’s flack on the Lion bit… buuuuut I do get it. No bias at all from me 👀

  • @Overanalyse_This
    @Overanalyse_This Жыл бұрын

    Could you just imagine being an innocent bystander and being horrified seeing these deadly Aeldari warriors going all out against this large-for-a-baby baby. And then the baby rips them to shreds, probably eats them (because even baby Primarchs know that they need their protein), burps, poops, and has a nap. I ain't touching that thing. Bro about to become Space Mowgli!

  • @neloverg3774
    @neloverg3774 Жыл бұрын

    Man you guys completely missed a moment from sanguinius, he killed angeron so hard by forcefully removing his Birchers nails that just disappeared kek

  • @dragozaf88

    @dragozaf88

    Жыл бұрын

    That momemt is talked about my dude 😇

  • @stevenpeven258
    @stevenpeven258 Жыл бұрын

    56:30 yeah, at this point I’d be extremely disappointed if Angron and Gazghkull didn’t end up in some almighty scrap. Mainly because Gasghkull’s human BFF Yarrick may dead, and so far pretty much all signs point to Angron being the culprit.

  • @Mare_Man
    @Mare_Man Жыл бұрын

    "Taking into account each Primarch's feet" Say no more

  • @timconner7693
    @timconner769318 күн бұрын

    Russ did out eat and out drink Big E.

  • @firasempire5294
    @firasempire52947 ай бұрын

    45:10 malkaan feirros I admit he is the only I can think of if you give 10 sec but yeah I named oen at least

  • @AlexanderForsman
    @AlexanderForsman Жыл бұрын

  • @AlexanderForsman

    @AlexanderForsman

    Жыл бұрын

    Regarding Lorgar: He doesn't like fighting his brothers but he is incredibly powerful. He beat Khorne's strongest Daemon... WHILE INSIDE THE EYE. He started the Heresy to save humanity(to avoid the same fate as the Eldar) He in secret, while the Imperium was spying on him, managed to order the construction of 3 battleships whose only equal was *The Phalanx* Then before the siege, he creates a reason to have him and almost his entire legion be spared having to be part of it. He and Alpharius then seeming puts into motion their plan to have both Horus and the Emperor lose. He forced Khorne to save Angron by ascending him. "Let it never be said that Lorgar Aurlian wasn't a Loyal Brother" Also the sole reason Emperor cared about Monarchia was that Word Bearers were too slow in conquering new world as they waited until they were stable before continuing. Religion didn't really matter since the Emperor never previously tired to stop him, only that the Emperor denied it. I think you need to reread [First Heretic] and [Betrayer]^^'

  • @totallylegitenergy2559

    @totallylegitenergy2559

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AlexanderForsman This.

  • @rockenrollern
    @rockenrollern Жыл бұрын

    You're lisping a bit. It almost sounded like you put my boy Lorgar "S-tier" Aurelian in F.

  • @dragozaf88

    @dragozaf88

    Жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣

  • @marmyeater
    @marmyeater Жыл бұрын

    33:12- I still don't think he did. I think it was a body double.

  • @misterwhalrus7334
    @misterwhalrus7334 Жыл бұрын

    Thank the Emperor, finally some Perturabo appreciation! Always liked the character, literal brainchild superskilled unsocial incel is at the same time hilarious but also tragic.

  • @Zeev503
    @Zeev503 Жыл бұрын

    Can't agree about Russ. Sorry guys. There's a point, where he tells Casper Hauser that the difference between The Wolves and The Sons, is control. He literally tells him that there is a limit to where the rune priests will go. He also discusses the use of a liabrarius. And yes, I am biased about the Wolves.

  • @dragozaf88

    @dragozaf88

    Жыл бұрын

    All views are valid my dude, these are works of fiction at the end of the day.

  • @Zeev503

    @Zeev503

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dragozaf88 of course. The vid is great though I really enjoyed it.

  • @Theakboyy
    @Theakboyy Жыл бұрын

    i know it's unrelated but you shoudl watch the "mona lisa" it's a halo legends movie it's got a great artstyle and i think you might be interested

  • @stevolam182
    @stevolam1826 ай бұрын

    Planet called “MURDEEERRRR”

  • @das_baum8227
    @das_baum8227 Жыл бұрын

    I mean... S stands for Sanguinius.

  • @montiegaines7179
    @montiegaines7179 Жыл бұрын

    Lorgar was only vaguely interesting character until they hit him with the plot stick. xD

  • @cellectra3342
    @cellectra334221 күн бұрын

    36:39 not really, he was trying to kill roboute guilliman the whole time while lion El'Jonson did most of the fighting keeping him alive

  • @spectre825
    @spectre825 Жыл бұрын

    Chill with the Iron Hands slander...

  • @wiccanthropy1956

    @wiccanthropy1956

    Жыл бұрын

    It's ferrus slander mostly. Autek mor was great!

  • @sanguinius_yt
    @sanguinius_yt Жыл бұрын

    Lion is no lower than A, of course he’s flawed but that’s what makes him such a good character. Best duellist and tactician. And his new book makes him so much better. He moved to S tier for me after his new book.

  • @SilverWarrior95

    @SilverWarrior95

    11 ай бұрын

    All primarchs are flawed, all primarchs are great strategists in their own field and all primarch are great duelists...yeah the Lion is probably the 2nd best duelist, cause that's his thing, but still, it's nothing impressive that really stands out...i find the Lion to be extremely boring, annoying and overrated a bit too much ...

  • @mastemathedank4043

    @mastemathedank4043

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@SilverWarrior95Lion for me at least gets a B for his to Guilliman about theoretically punching him in his practical face, or something like that lol

  • @venerablebrothergoriate5844
    @venerablebrothergoriate5844 Жыл бұрын

    Damn. Looks like I’m a goddamn idiot for liking the Iron Hands then 🙃 I suppose you’d need to have a prosthetic limb like me to like them, but whatever. I guess I need a prosthetic brain too. Never mind the fact that they actually do have some cool lore. Everyone just stops at “oh? Ferrus Manus is dead? Okay, next legion.”

  • @TheChillzoneX

    @TheChillzoneX

    Жыл бұрын

    The heresy is not over, we have plenty of time to have a more fleshed out Ferrus

  • @tomseppanen2316
    @tomseppanen2316 Жыл бұрын

    31:20 Did you just say iron fists instead of imperial fists?

  • @dragozaf88

    @dragozaf88

    Жыл бұрын

    Yupp he did, but a minor slip up

  • @markkonev8303
    @markkonev83039 ай бұрын

    Space wolves are such Mary Sues. GW gives them so many wins that they don't deserve. Logan should not have been able to defend the gray knights.

  • @Thyinternet
    @Thyinternet7 ай бұрын

    45:44 Autek Morr is the coolest space marine character and he’s from the 10th. Read up on little Autek. He’s insane.

  • @Chaoticchips
    @Chaoticchips7 ай бұрын

    Crime syndicate not the justice lords btw

  • @MrMuelltube
    @MrMuelltube Жыл бұрын

    I must say, this is a really good and entertaining Primarch Tier List from you, which is well explained and enlightened, just like the one from @Old Man Reacts, which i can recommend to watch. Unlike the Primarch Tier List of a certain Imperial Fist Pretender *cough* @Chapter Master Valrak *cough*. Something OFF-TOPIC: I understand the hate against Andrew Tate and i'm glad that he is jailed, but who is the second one with the Kidney Failure? What did he had done to get so much hatred? Just Curious.

  • @TheChillzoneX

    @TheChillzoneX

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed the list. The second not so gentleman is edp445 - infamous for having been cough many times in inappropriate interactions with younger internet users.

  • @MrMuelltube

    @MrMuelltube

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheChillzoneX Thx for fast answer, m8. Damn, that's awful and cringe!

  • @dragozaf88

    @dragozaf88

    Жыл бұрын

    EDP is bad to kids, in the worst way

  • @MrMuelltube

    @MrMuelltube

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dragozaf88 I agree with that. And i mean it about that he is awful and cringe!

  • @MrMuelltube

    @MrMuelltube

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheChillzoneX Hey man, can i recommend you some Vids to react? @Old Man Reacts and his Five(ish) Minute Lore Videos and "Mistakes of the Emperor" Series are so cool, that they are worth a look at!

  • @KaratePath
    @KaratePathАй бұрын

    Lion's was a dick, but thats actually better as he is kind of having a redeeming arc now .... And, this is 40K at the end, not Shakespeare, dude is a badass warrior

  • @marmyeater
    @marmyeater Жыл бұрын

    1:27:37- I don't believe that.

  • @David-li4uw
    @David-li4uw8 ай бұрын

    Literally nobody knew Peterabo was a traitor. Why do people always forget that?

  • @kableedge9278
    @kableedge9278 Жыл бұрын

    Man puts Fulgrim in C, someone who failed to conquer a planet, which was more than happy to comply, whilst almost dying in the process in C, but puts the Lion in F, someone who killed the King Krave. Because he's a dick with Asperses

  • @cellectra3342
    @cellectra334221 күн бұрын

    1:05:51 nurgle lies, the only one who doesn't lie is khorne

  • @plasticbudgie
    @plasticbudgie Жыл бұрын

    You helped me get into the lore. Thats impressive in itself. Kudos brother. The angron thing though, if the nails only rewarded blood, hes a primarch and must be aware of the issue. I mean if nails could be removed by nornal humans yet primarchs no. Why didnt he ( i cant say the simple term ) Sadly take his own life. To me hes the worst primarch.

  • @timexyemerald6290
    @timexyemerald629010 ай бұрын

    Lion got absolutely Destroyed in this video😅. Lion fans gonna be pissed

  • @MicahSps
    @MicahSps Жыл бұрын

    Logan Grimmar: Can kill a grandmaster GK but couldn’t finish off Hyperion? Come on now. Also, they told the Inquisitors to piss off. They’re still a little shady with the GKs (gotta stand up for my boys, I have 7k points of them) but won’t kill them on sight…

  • @Blackhart-7
    @Blackhart-7 Жыл бұрын

    Man, i have minimal knowledge about 40K but i honestly love Vulkan as a character. Now mind you my arachnophobia and love of holy land paladins might just have something to do with my "burn that **** with holy fire" tendencies but he's still a cool ass dude o7 Also, even if i barely know about 40K i am still watching this vid cuz hell yeah i'll watch 2 fans nerd out about something like this!

  • @dragozaf88

    @dragozaf88

    Жыл бұрын

    watching 2 bros just bro out over a mutual interest is always fun

  • @Adrian-vd6ji
    @Adrian-vd6ji6 ай бұрын

    it was guilliman

  • @cellectra3342
    @cellectra334221 күн бұрын

    Lion El'Jonson is pretty shit at dealing with people probably didn't sense perturabo was lying or anything, and big factor perturabo isnt corrupted, hell I don't even think the iron warriors are even corrupted and only used demon engines of war. Tho i think blood angels probably can as well, no I think ultra marines possibly can

  • @cellectra3342

    @cellectra3342

    21 күн бұрын

    Lion El'Jonson is probably better now after he have returned and banished angron too and started to teleport by walking out the forest of caliban

  • @gospelarchain4504
    @gospelarchain450410 ай бұрын

    I think you heavily misinterpreted why people were upset about the cussing. It wasn't because "oh no bad word" it was because it didn't fit in the universe. There are like what? 40 years of in universe cuss words that they've been using and then suddenly someone randomly uses a real world cuss word that isn't ever used in all the rest of 40k? It was more of a "wait what?" Moment that made you pause for a second when reading cause it was so out of place. Now that being said. I love the "eat shit and die traitor" part XD

  • @cellectra3342
    @cellectra334221 күн бұрын

    45:37 easy, theres an iron hands chapter master, cant remember his name only because hes the only irons hand member with a sense of humor, malkaan feirros

  • @Overanalyse_This
    @Overanalyse_This Жыл бұрын

    King Arthur and all that crap is Shakespearean?

  • @gospelarchain4504
    @gospelarchain450410 ай бұрын

    Im sorry guys but Angron is my absolute least favorite primarch. Hes tragic yes. But he just sucks so much ass personality wise. I just cant like him. On another note Ferrus was originally my favorite primarch XD, the opinion has shifted to others but i feel hes severely underrated because he never got the stories he needed. But hes physically the tallest primarch, hes arguably a better blacksmith than Vulkan (he focuses on function over form) hes a master with tech. And even horus said he knew war better than almost anyone saying if Ferrus had joined them they would have taken Terra quickly. But he gets shit on by the few stories he is given. He had a temper but so do most of the primarchs and the time it really got the best of him with Fulgrim, you have to remember that Fulgrim was the person he cared for and trusted most in the galaxy and he was betrayed by him. Man imagine you caught your wife in bed with some dude would you stay calm?

  • @WillTheForests
    @WillTheForests Жыл бұрын

    Ugh I’m so tired of folks saying Rogal beat Fulgrim, like I’m sorry it’d be cool if he did, but Fulgrim quite literally got bored of the fight and went off to go massacre civilians and make them into cocaine. In an actual fight to the death Fulgrim would turn Rogal inside out and back again.

  • @vincentcrow6075
    @vincentcrow6075 Жыл бұрын

    1:29:08 seriuosly? Really? Tell me, what was his ultimate goal? The main reason he turn traitor (kinda)? To make Horus win and Emperor lose, right? And he completely fucked up at that one, mate.

  • @dragozaf88

    @dragozaf88

    Жыл бұрын

    fair point

  • @abrarnoorani8385
    @abrarnoorani8385 Жыл бұрын

    Nahhh, if I was gonna be gay for a primarch then I'd choose Vulkan

  • @dragozaf88

    @dragozaf88

    11 ай бұрын

    You know what ? I digg it.

  • @jerbear3915
    @jerbear3915 Жыл бұрын

    31:17 whoa wait what did you just say

  • @Ulkan117
    @Ulkan117 Жыл бұрын

    Russ 😢

  • @LSHEVV
    @LSHEVV Жыл бұрын

    It would be hilarious if they brought Dorn back. Because the only way to balance that out would be by also dragging Magnus with him.

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