The Decline of Iron Banner (2014-2023)
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Iron Banner across Destiny 1 and Destiny 2. Going from the high points of 2014 to Early 2017. Then with Destiny 2 late 2017 to 2023. How Iron Banner has declined and how Bungie continues to fail at making Iron Banner what it once was. Destiny 1 and Destiny 2. This is a history of Iron Banner and how its massive decline. Showcasing Iron Banner Gameplay from Destiny 1 and Destiny 2.
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It’s so odd that D1 had many systems in place that were celebrated and near perfection in taken king and rise of iron and either took them years to bring out half baked versions of them in D2 or refused to due to whatever reason.
@wesleyward5901
Жыл бұрын
*cough cough* Sparrow Racing League *cough cough*
@dave7474
Жыл бұрын
minimum viable product to get our money
@DiscordN7
Жыл бұрын
@@dave7474 ^Truth
@uniqueidentity1362
Жыл бұрын
And if you actually played stuff in d1 you remember...at least I do...the rewards felt better and I got a lot more drops of iron banner stuff at the end of matches instead of the bungie forced grind to be rewarded RNG drop rate
@DiscordN7
Жыл бұрын
@@uniqueidentity1362 on my warlock it wasn’t so bad I’ve been trying to get the armor for each character for transmog but I’m stuck on Titan cause I’ve only been getting helmets. I only got the helmet and gauntlets and nothing else I’ve got 3 helmets to drop in a row but all and stats still. I know the Titan helm is one of the best for many I am happy I got it but days of grinding on Titan and still no chest piece, boots or class item. And I still need to do this on my hunter lol this grind is either easy or horrible based on your rng
D1 iron banner nights are some of my favorite memories in gaming.
@OopsOojUFink
Жыл бұрын
I agree them 💯
@PureSilver07
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely man.
@Akuma12366
Жыл бұрын
Straight facts
@JongleurBt1
Жыл бұрын
I still see myself at night, with the raid homies, farming people with a Red Death and my Felwiters in my hands
Just watching this video makes me realize how much I miss Destiny 1. The maps, the weapons, just the *feel* of the universe. Everything is so polished and feels like an assembly line now.
@dewulfe9913
Жыл бұрын
my thoughts and feelings exactly - it used to feel kinda raw and *real* now it's just a pretty video game
@hazelherdz8150
Жыл бұрын
@@dewulfe9913 meh you getting older, you're harder to impress it happens, but new players enjoy this game, its how it works, you just have to deal with it... maybe this is what new players want, and you're no longer the segment this game is being made for, who knows.
@Oblivion___
Жыл бұрын
@@hazelherdz8150 Unlikely, this is the same as saying that video games are something for children and that adults don't play video games, or watch anime, read mangas and comics, etc... 1 - The quality has declined because for Bungie it is much better to do as little as possible to earn money. 2 - Bungie's focus on the game has changed, an example of this is the general state of PVP, how many new maps has Crucible received? Not to mention all the changes that have happened, where the very fact that they happened is a massive red flag.
@pedrotrejo8118
Жыл бұрын
It's crazy, it's all coming back just by looking at the old maps 😂
@genericpinesol
Жыл бұрын
I feel like the devs are still passionate about destiny 2 but upper management is trying to milk the game for every cent
Crazy that almost 10 years later were playing the same maps in PvP. Really wish IB was every month.
@lukeytavares7128
Жыл бұрын
That's Bungie for you
@KrakkenXXX
Жыл бұрын
Same maps with less quality
@playsie4731
Жыл бұрын
Bungie Management of PVP in D2 has been so shit man
D1 auto rifle aesthetics just hit different ❤️
I am still annoyed over the current season story's connection to the Iron Temple. We liberated the temple and were crowned the Young Wolf. Hell, that's how Shaxx refers to us in the base D2 campaign. Fast forward to now. We clear out the temple again, but are not allowed to enter because, Saladin is strict. To top it of you could no longer climb on top of Fellwinter Peak because it is a kill zone part way up. Felt lazy and was a huge miss for vets and new lights alike.
@dracolerro2592
Жыл бұрын
Ikr? It’s like they totally forgot that we saved the temple from the fallen splicer threat. We literally broke into their lair and destroyed the wrath of the machine (aksis, archon prime) from d1… lady efrideet needs to remind saladin or something idk 🤷🏾♂️
@jetsecks787
Жыл бұрын
It’s like 95% of Rise of Iron was forgotten by Bungie; When we received the Young Wolf’s Howl at the end of the campaign, we became the start of the new gen Iron Lords, but now all that seems to be forgotten it’s a shame, really
@snyperwulffgaming9575
Жыл бұрын
That actually was something that absolutely upset me. Saladin isn't even really concerned with it now, He is part of the Cabal forces. We've done far more than he has at this point in this war. We honestly should have been given control over the Iron Temple by this point in the story, we should have been allowed inside, and we sure as hell should have been allowed the nostalgia of climbing the peak.
@serafaye9705
Жыл бұрын
Bungie: we’ll let you jump on top of all the buildings in felwinter but the peak everyone seeks is a no >,>
@FoxGoesSquee
Жыл бұрын
@@snyperwulffgaming9575 bruh that name is just lol
The armor downgrade in D2 continues to bewilder. D1 armor was truly awesome looking and unique. Bungie must have lost the artists that were in touch with the aesthetic most of us appreciate. Solid vid.
@Triceratronz
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. D2 armor is a joke, especially with being able to buy assassins creed or fortnite armor. It completely breaks the immersion that the art direction is supposed to contribute to
@adjcsee4476
Жыл бұрын
I think the issue would be if they brought back all he D1 armor is that players would complain that “it’s just another reskin just like their weapons.” I do love the OG armor from D1 but I also know that returning players or some players who’ve been around for so long wouldn’t be as interested.
@Bestow3000
Жыл бұрын
Sadly the creativity from the talented devs are stifled from the higher ups.
@thexsandxassain
Жыл бұрын
@@Bestow3000 The keynote speaker event thing that detailed that bullshit is the reason I canceled my plans for lightfall and why this is my last season.
@timewellspent8137
Жыл бұрын
@@adjcsee4476 you're missing the point. The point is that Bungie should still be able te release new, good looking armor, but 90% of the armor is ugly. There's next to no symmetry at all.
I'll be honest, I feel like the removal of power levels from Iron Banner was a really good change. It just removes the perquisite of needing to raise power. Of course you still need to do things like collect good weapons but that fine since it's long form progression. I also firmly believe Destiny 2's game modes would be better if they stopped being so fucking lazy and actually made maps for them. They keep adding game modes to maps that clearly weren't designed for them.
@alter6243
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been saying this for a while. Yes we get new content every season but how much of that do we interact with? How much of it do we care about? Or actually like? The core playlists are essentially unchanged from season to season. Then the dlc comes with also barely any changes to the core playlists. It’s the core of the game and has been completely ignored since the release of Shadowkeep. The issue with seasonal content is that Bungie spends who knows how long unvaulting a significant portion of Mars for a mission nobody will be playing after the season is over. Yet they stated we won’t be seeing a, of course, reissued map until later into the lifecycle of Lightfall. This mission on Mars is locked behind the season where half the loot is reissued loot you could still obtain the day before the season came out. The seasonal model is harmful to the core of the game. So much time is spent on things we honestly do not care about. Have you ever heard someone say they genuinely missed a seasonal activity from Shadowkeep or Beyond Light? I haven’t. I can’t go on a single video talking about Destiny 2 without seeing a comment bringing up how a map or raid is missed. Only reason I can’t play the game right now is because the core game is unplayable and repetitive.
@ungabunga9581
Жыл бұрын
@@alter6243 I kinda agree, but for me I'd say what I really hate. Isn't not being able to interact with content, but rather being forced to interact with content. It still boggles my mind how bad PVP rewards are. Back in the day you could get Not Forgotten or Recluse, which were top tier PVP weapons from PVP. Now if you want top tier PVP weapons you've gotta do PVE content. Not to mention the insulting amount of grinding for pointless things. Destiny feels like it's too scared to let people stop playing the game, like it's got to constantly pressure people into playing to get that next FOMO item.
@heickelrrx
Жыл бұрын
@@alter6243 This whole year fund has been used to remade Subclass, we got rework Subclass and their exotic, Next year we should expect more content as we have subclass revamp already, team can start making something else
@daMillenialTrucker
Жыл бұрын
I played with my clan in iron banner over the weekend, we all used DMTs and when that middle point came around we had a chokehold on that location because there was only 2-3 different spots they could come from fresh out of spawning, we lost just a handful of games. Bungie really screwed this up, you could say we were playing like punks but it's crucible and I've always rocked the DMT whether it was it's inception, it's nerf, and it's recent buff, I've not stopped using it, even in PVE.
@tyxbreaker
Жыл бұрын
@@alter6243 I mean, when you have a game thats separated from a free-to-play model and a premium model, it makes sense that the FTP aspects of it dont get much love. I'm not defending the model at all, but that's just how I see it.
It really hurts to see Iron Banner (as well as all of PvP) be neglected this hard. I know that Destiny is a PvE game first and foremost, but that doesn’t mean that you should neglect the other part of the game.
@Axl_Alastor
Жыл бұрын
And even worse that the recent changes/updates to pvp are terrible and mostly are being received terribly
@dewulfe9913
Жыл бұрын
Especially since pvp (if good) is almost endlessly replayable, while strikes imo aren't really (except for a small percentage of the playerbase). I won't even consider Gambit as an option either, lol.
@fearthefro5045
Жыл бұрын
I never felt like D1 was PVE focused, and maybe that’s because I played before DLC was out and the story was considered lack luster by most, but the PvP was decent at the time. House of Wolves made the game reach its Peak with PvP content.
@mchinZR
Жыл бұрын
Even in pve it's recycled content we haven't had anything new since witch queen
@JingMitsuyamaCH
Жыл бұрын
D2 PvP is arguably some of the worst PvP I’ve experienced. D1 felt so fun to play as it was equal gun skill and class/map knowledge. To me D2 feel like they don’t have a clear viewpoint on where they want to take the game anymore. D1 felt like they were in a groove with a clear vision and drive to do better
The lighting in d1 is so much better than d2 .
@BC-ni6hp
Жыл бұрын
I feel like some maps in D1 are more filmic, and in D2 they go for more vibrant or pinpoint accurate colors
Iron Banner was my favorite thing in Destiny 1. I used to play it w my friends, having really good times. I miss that Destiny so much. SRL or Combined Weapons in crucible. The good old days … Thanks for your video
Wow. It's been years since I've seen any D1 pvp gameplay on some of those maps. And I watch a lot of Destiny videos... Brings me back... There was something different about PvP then, something special.
Just watching this brings back so many emotions... I don't even know where to begin but just watching these clips, seeing so many amazingly laid out old maps and some of those weapons, Bungie has some things right and even more horribly wrong. Bring back those maps and WTF... Where is clever dragon?
Bungie just don't care about their game or their players so long as it keeps making them money.
@2PacAintDead99
Жыл бұрын
The sooner people uninstall this garbage and move on the better, I've done it, and it feels great to break away from it, its a laggy server, a leaky ship and nothing but a greedy corporation with it's seasonal model which is nothing but a hindrance. So many people still play it, because they love cosmetics. I've learned that now is the time to get rid of it and never look back. The fact they still can't address the server crashes and think it's acceptable people lose there progress. I've moved on. I'm giving Warframe a go, and some other games.
@jerrylomelli4234
Жыл бұрын
Is 75% true the other 35 want to release all the content but the entrepreneurs at this game have a different plans I'll be playing this game since I was 46 or 47 years old now I'm going to be 55 I took a break for like 2 years and a half hoping when I come back that this game was even better now than before and it wasn't Bungie selling you and a expansion for the whole year and when they see that 80% of the player base by it that cut down some content and sell it to you later on for more money and that's one of the things I don't like I hope someday we all get in the same page and not buy the expansion right away when it's 3 days before it comes out then buy it so we don't give him a chance to cut content and we can get better DLCs
@dewulfe9913
Жыл бұрын
@@2PacAintDead99 agreed, I'm out too, got better things to do with my time than play this Skinner box, bad slot-machine rng, money sucking farce of a 'game'
@Ferno556
Жыл бұрын
@@2PacAintDead99 What are you talking about? 💀 The game is better than it’s ever been
You keep making ‘em I keep sharing ‘em. Keep up the quality, bro!
@NovemberHotel
Жыл бұрын
💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
I will never forget grinding for hours trying to get a god roll Distant Star and Clever Dragon. Remember when IB had amazing weapons lol?
@dewulfe9913
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I do! But can I briefly highjack your point to talk about one of the first warning signs we saw in Bungie's game philosophy? When I started playing pvp (in House of Wolves) I sucked. Eventually I got slowly better, but getting my first Grasp of Malok really started to change things, and I was playing more too. Then we got Clever Dragon, same rpm as Grasp, it kicked ass. But on the second IB (I think) with the new guns, it was a standard reward AND came with high-cal rounds..... So a max speed pulse with high-cal...it flinched EVERYTHING and EVERYONE, and EVERYONE had it and used it. So Bungie had to nerf ALL the max rpm pulses >. This is one of the biggest problems with Bungie...they give people OP weapons/abilities, which tends to ruin pvp for everyone, then they nerf more than they should have had to, resulting in stale, average guns/abilities. You can even see this in PVE, before TaKen King they nerfed field scout on the CE and VoG scouts. Before, with 28 shots in the mag you could take a big fuck-off yellow bar captain in the Skolas fight from 100% to dead using Fang of Ir-Yut. After the nerf, you'd get him down to 50%, have to reload, and he'd run away and hide and get his shield back...sooo frustrating! And why? Just so the new Taken King guns wouldn't seem crappy compared to the old raid weapons. Same thing happened with special ammo at the end of D1 in pvp. They nerfed the special ammo economy (and never put it back) because they were planning on the double primary meta of D2 launch, and didn't want people saying "this sucks!" and going back to D1...... ok, /rant over :]
Finnala's Peril, Iron Wreath, Colovance's Duty... Man, those were the days. I miss that game. I miss the artifact system. I 100% loved nightstalker without the super and with double melee, and double grenades. It was such a good time.
@dewulfe9913
Жыл бұрын
right?! I can't believe they didn't bring back Iron Wreath (the look and sound of that gun was just perfect!), or Clever Dragon....
Bro you didn't mention when they added rank play list to iron banner in d2 it was truly hell. Urental running rampid.
Damn that shot of the old tower in the back with the music goddamnn man bring on the nostalgia
First time I got to experience Iron Banner in D1 was amazing. I logged in to do my daily bounty, and saw the gates to the garden was open in the tower. There was a huge Iron emblem and a man stood in front of it, Lord Saladin. In front of him were people with some amazing weapons I never saw before. Grinded the next two days trying to farm them. Fast forward last week, I approach Saladin with the same excitement I had back in D1, only to find him selling shit weapons with a grind fest for a chainmail shader, this is the state of destiny now, grind a week for just a shit shader. PS. just finished my grind, will stay away from PVP for a while now.
@thexsandxassain
Жыл бұрын
My brother, I grinded for the shader as well and as a Hunter who is really bad at pvp I too have no desire to go back for a long time. Didn't help that I'm not even fond of the weapons dropping. So the D1 armor was all I had going for me outside the shader.
@Celestialnighthawk
Жыл бұрын
Grinded for the hunter set I don’t know what is it but destiny 2 makes the set look trash aside from the cloak 🤦♂️
@brendanmemmott1597
Жыл бұрын
Man I was with you until you talked trash on the shader. That new shader is actually god tier good
@dominichutchison1322
Жыл бұрын
@@brendanmemmott1597 fr
@thexsandxassain
Жыл бұрын
@@brendanmemmott1597 I like it a lot too but man did I barely just get it in time.
0:28 Man they need to bring that map and back. Being able to hop on those pikes…. I vaguely remember playing on that map
@dewulfe9913
Жыл бұрын
First Light. Amazing map. One time we got our mates together for some custom matches and that was one of the maps we played...still remember some of the kills, deaths and near misses from that match...
I miss the Destiny 1 days 😔
I have so many good memories looking at these D1 clips. So many fun times with old D1 friends I don’t see anymore.
I see you're still producing excellent content and it's good to see your channel has grown well. Keep up the good work.
@NovemberHotel
Жыл бұрын
Thanks nick! Much appreciated. Been awhile since I’ve seen you in my comments!
@nick3551
Жыл бұрын
It has been awhile buddy, it's been a crazy couple of years for me. Your vids are some of the best Destiny content out there, from the start.
@NovemberHotel
Жыл бұрын
@@nick3551 well I always appreciate your support. Best wishes 💪🏼
Why does all my memories of d1 bring back smiles and a feeling off enjoyment but d2 just brings up let down and frustration minus a few memories like forsaken
Love the background music, you can easily fall asleep to it.
This guys channel is basically history class for destiny 2.
I remember the first iron banners working so hard to get random piece of armor that took my light level up or getting a random weapon that might not have good perks but was so hard to get it was still worth using
Only playing IB for the old IB armor and chain mail shader. I only barley touched it once in awhile in D2 but never got into it like I did with D1, sad to see one of the most fun and iconic events in destiny become a husk
@timewellspent8137
Жыл бұрын
I just wish it didnt take 3 days of grinding just for 1 reset. I don't have a ton of expendable time, so I'll have to wait so long just to reset the second time
Excellent vid thanks for the memberberries!
I do like that they brought back the wearing of emblems and gear to gain rep bonuses from earlier IB. Dressing up for events is kinda fun.
LOVE your videos man. I press play so quick lol.
The music in the background used always brings peace to my mind.
I love the formatting of your videos
@NovemberHotel
Жыл бұрын
i'll keep it up!
Needing to wear so many pieces/ornaments of iron banner gear in order to get the max XP boost is just stupid. If you only needed 1 or 2 items, then that would be fine, but I don't see why they want everyone to look the same. Also, why the hell do they limit us to only using void or stasis subclasses to complete ALL of the daily pinnacle challenges? And it was void/stasis last season, too, they didn't even change it at all for this season. It's so damn lazy.
I remember my brother got Suros super early in D1 from an engram from cave farming. My first ever exotic was Thunderlord a few weeks after he got Suros
Just grinded 15 hours of IB just to be short 2 Ranks to get the shader. Haven't played PVP for multiple seasons and definitely know why.
Thank you so much for this great video and for remembering the good old D1 times.
Im really enjoying this historical look back critique videos coming out of this channel lately. Lot's of good ideas to be found here if bungie listens
@NovemberHotel
Жыл бұрын
Glad you’re enjoying them. More to come
@goonboyx
Жыл бұрын
most of it is just "muh destiny 1" boomer shit
Yeah loved grinding IB for those god rolls. Those nights grinding out NFs for strike specific loot like grasp and omago loop. Shame they never alot for some type of trading system.
Very nice vid, thank you
@NovemberHotel
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed
Man I remember being so excited when Iron Banner came around. And the Taken King's Iron Companion sets are some of the franchise's best.
Bro I was really hoping that iron banner was gonna be big this week with us finally revisiting felwinters peak again and seeing it be cabal themed I assumed we’d return there for iron banner, but no they redesigned felwinters peak just not use it again… gotta love it
@Anbuish
Жыл бұрын
Climbing the mountain and finding a kill zone halfway up made me genuinely want to uninstall the game
Man, I miss the Y1 D1 Iron Banner armor. I still had it from my hunter all the way through the end of Destiny 1, so many people asked where I got it. Good times.
Pure nostalgia amazing video
I came back into destiny 2 pretty late and seriously had no idea that IB had bounties to help with progression. I have no idea why they went backwards and got rid of this, grinding out 2 resets for a shader is a real pain in the ass. Great vid!
I remember staying up till 5 AM day one on one of the iron banners
A way to make the Iron Banner feel more important is to give the quest you pick up from Lord Saladin a side mission explaining why the Iron Banner was forged back in the Dark Ages. To show it was more than just a place where guradians fight in an arena to be rewarded. As you progress through the quest, you'd be given an Armor piece voucher that will let you the player decide what Iron Banner armor you wish to wear. Each set would have a built-in intrinsic Perk encouraging players to grind for every set to have all the special in-game abilities. Wearing the Armor would increase your reputation by 5%, and bounties would be unaffected. And near the end of the quest, you would return to the Iron Temple and gain an Artifact of the Iron Lord's. Giving you a special ability in PvP and PvE. We could also have a Battlegrounds Playlist with an Iron lords theme taking place in the Plaugelands and bringing back Siva Fallen. Does it sound like fun? TOO BAD BECAUSE BUNGIE DOSEN'T CARE ABOUT FUN ANYMORE!
@chumumi
Жыл бұрын
Yo honestly thats a cool idea, hell its probably like a given probability in the lore that ib quest SHOULD be like that and the other obvious stuff. But now imagine the BILLION dollar company, BILLION with a B and all its staff give us what we have today🥴
This whole video just makes me sad and miss destiny 1. The background music too gets you
I don’t mind this current iron banner. Turrets could probably use more health, but I feel the main issue right now is just the current meta. Honestly if they limited abilities within iron banner I think it would be so much better.
@Seraph89_
Жыл бұрын
This is only my 4th rodeo in IB. I completely agree with you. I enjoyed it so much. But the abilities took away from it. It became so much I didn’t mind farming L’s on my last 2 days of playing.
I literally cannot look at footage of D1 without OD'n on nostalgia. God, this game hit me like a ton of bricks, and I aint recovered yet.
Ironic that they had a mechanic where your gain more rep at the end of the week, then removed it; only to bring it back again to the dismay of players
I remember playing the first IB and most of my friends laughed at me for being at the botton only to be awarded gjallarhorn. They would often be kicked out of lfg groups when I wasn't around.
One of my fondest memories was grinding till 5am literally getting rank 5 within 10 minutes of reset to get the emblem and shaders available. Iron Banner was also great because if at any point you were a little under level, Win or Lose if you had any drops of gear or weapons it be as far as 7-8 light levels higher! The absolute best way to kick back and rank up it was truely special. In d2 this is the first time I've enjoyed Iron Banner I'm inlove love with Fortress I already reset my rank I have 808 kills this week and I will find you with my witherhoard. Good Hunting
@Crimsomreaf5555
Жыл бұрын
Now the shader and emblem are locked behind 2 resets, and even with 11x rep gain you only get 350 max rep per winning game
What an amazing "Vidoc" on the subject of Iron Banner in Destiny 1. Content like this is high quality and something that should get Bungie moving out of fear.
Blind Watch was such a good nap. I’d love to see that and asylum in D2
D1 just hits different
Nice soundtrack in the background from D1 😍
7:31 had no clue this was such a rare ship. Had it equipped this whole time lol
They actually released 2 more maps for the ib and now we don't even get 1 map for the release of a season
There's a popular rumor / community theory that the "live team" for D1 was responsible for Rise of Iron being so good and the "main team" for D2 absolutely _hated_ that they were outperformed by what was basically the maintenance crew, so they took out / reversed a majority of the changes made and we ended up with D2 in its launch state. Not saying it's true because there's no hard evidence but it is a bit easier to believe when looking at something like the history of Iron Banner and how sharply it took a dive between Rise of Iron and Destiny 2 Year 1.
@IAmValefree
Жыл бұрын
That sounds... completely ridiculous lol
@planelattice2783
Жыл бұрын
Idk why this got popular when we already know the poor quality for d2 y1 was the mid development reboot and the other contributing factor which is their shift in mentality about quality products being bad.
@dewulfe9913
Жыл бұрын
I tend to agree this was a possibility. Or perhaps also - the main team wanted to prove they could 'innovate' and come up with good stuff on their own. There's a massive prejudice in our societies against anything that's 'old'. 'New' is always seen as better, and in my own professional life, people are always asked "so how have you justified your job by making things better?". So people are often trying to reinvent the wheel....fix something which *isn't* broken. End result is things get worse, not better. But I can totally see game devs getting twisted by the maintenance team getting all the accolades for fixing what their mess (even if they weren't responsible for it in the first place).
@MrAjking808
Жыл бұрын
Y’all have too much time lol 😂 it’s just a game
Seeing the old maps from d1 like asylum and first light is really cool!!
Dude what music is that I remember that chime from the tower I think, holy shit that sound makes me nostalgic
@NovemberHotel
Жыл бұрын
Deconstruction destiny 1 soundtrack.
Destiny 1 stil the best gamer ever
So glad I got the complete armor sets for all characters on d1 lol
I remember when the Iron Banner ship dropped for me in D1. I took a picture of the screen! I was so hype. I can’t believe I’ve been playing this game going on 10 years now… wow
At this point I only play Iron Banner just for the new emblem and shader now. The only time I really had fun playing Iron Banner was two seasons ago I think where it was 2xp in the Crucible.
The nostalgia always makes me emotional and brings a tear to my eye
Man 8 years of old nostalgia with the music revives memories. But yeah honestly the power lvl bs in d2 is just hella annoying taking away the fun.
I would like to see the d1 armor ornements with fire effects, they were wonderful.
I remember jolder hammer top tier lmg was so amazing in pvp and pve
i remember being excited to play these mods, Iron Banner, Trials, the armor was worth it and so was the weapon, the flex of going flawless, just that feeling, dosent exist anymore.
What an emotional roller coaster😭😭
6’s period is not fun right now and fortress is even worse. On a positive note it gave me a chance to grind comp for ascendant
I like to think of the D2 launch as the collapse that we keep hearing about in game lol
I know iron banner was awesome on D1, that's just a fact. However, I think where Iron banner is right now is still awesome. I find myself hoping every "this week in destiny" that we are getting IB in the next week (thankfully today they announced it's coming back next week. For 2 weeks!!) But everyone has their opinion, this is just mine
I've been playing Thy D since Year 1 D1. I used to enjoy IB back then. But since they added that one version of control a couple years back. I can't stand playing anymore.
D2 year one sets were pretty cool, especially the ornaments you could unlock. About Fortress, a big portion of the player base loves it
The footage of whiteboy7thst took me back I remember watching him all the time
Babe babe wake up! New November Hotel video shitting on destiny just dropped!!!
Gotta say though, this week's IB is the best I've played since D1.
The rise of iron banner weapons and armour are probably the only things I miss about D1 that and nova mortis and Abaddon
Sbmm is also a big problem. Don’t know why they implement it when they really don’t care about pvp
i remember when you could get saladins set as a titan i miss that set
I really enjoy ur videos man they put things in retrospective and encase how were all feeling at least us veterans keep up the good work I do have say though I am enjoying fortress I like it
Here's a joke: Destiny PvP (Crucible, Iron Banner, Osiris) is fun and balanced.
I feel like now more than ever before with the Introduction of sbmm into ib the only reason i do it is because of pinnacle for trials and other stuff. I get forced onto armor/ornaments and subclasses i really dont want to play for 18 games in a row.
4:14 Oh man I remember when that thing was 3 tapping players Then the vex mythoclast came out, and that thing was 2 tapping players
Damn I remember those days, good ol days.
I only ever logged into D2 heavily when Iron Banner came around. Now, I don't even log in for that anymore. But during D1 I played the whole time it was up. But then again, D1 had way more to offer
I did enjoy a good game of iron banner in D1, it was by no means perfect but was essential for the grind , even for a casual like me, I will say one of the MAIN gripes overall for the event was just constantly playing control, bungie should of rotated the play list more often especially in D2, also with the lack of maps in pvp as well had an effect overall.
This video took me back
I actually had fun this past weekend playing banner despite having to against 4 or 5 immortals each game.
I feel like Bungie needs to put more work into iron banner to make it great again. I do like them removing power levels for the sole reason of letting people use their sunset weapons in the mode. I believe reforging should come back because I think it's cool and would still work as an alternate to crafting but it would be cool to craft the weapons too even though I doubt that'll happen. They either need to make the reputation go up a bit faster, bring back the third week of iron banner, or change the reputation rewards because most people that I know of are going after the new shader that they put behind 2 rank prestiges and not everyone has a week off to play the mode.
I'll just never understand them essentially pressing the reset button on D1 with D2 and going through almost the same process as they did with D1. They almost treated it like D1 didn't exist and they learned nothing from it because D2 had an extremely similar path of meh launch to decent DLCs to a life saving big DLC. It's just so strange.
i enjoyed strongholds... maybe the majority didnt, but i found it fun.
Add in the new "grind" that Bungie had decided to lock some things in Iron Banner, and it caved way to mercy farming, which is not likely going to get patched up even by weekly reset.
Have never seen guardians cap zones with such fervor before Fortress game mode. It was fun but it will definitely get old fast seeing only Bubble titans everywhere.
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Also matches go by so quickly that neither teams give a fk about winning or losing
Iron banner use to be the mode that helps you level up to catch up with everyone else....now it's just a shell that revolves around you playing 3 matches just to get 1 pinnical. Also, at this point, why can't Iron Banner have multiple armor sets that the player can select which one they want to unlock. Also, why not bring back Iron Banner bounties that also give pinnicals.
The whole game needs a damn refresh. After doing root a bunch of time I have nothing else I want to do. Gonna take a break until summer solstice