Worth watching the entire A-Z on this one. 01:00 - An interesting market pricing update, since I bought a watch. 04:04 - My opinion on the age old Rolex Submariner and Omega Seamaster 300 Professional debate. This includes many factors, because the questions needs to be answered this way.

Love my New Seamaster and the Bracelet. Sold My Sub and Picked up a Speedy and a Seamaster with money left over!! You all know this to be True with Rolex you are paying UP for the name! PERIOD!

It’s amazing to see how you have fallen in love with your Omega. I bought my first Omega in 2000, I didn’t buy my first Rolex until 2014. It allowed me to realize how amazing Omega’s are. Both are amazing watches, but the Omega is understated, and just as bullet proof as Rolex. All the craftsmanship and none of the hype, less danger of being robbed. There is a time and a place for both Rolex and Omega, having both gives you the opportunity to choose depending on your mood or your situation, and ultimately that is what Watch collecting should truly be about! Enjoy them both in good health sir. 👌🏻

I have a Seamaster Professional from 1998. It’s steel bezel was the precursor to ceramic. Only serviced once, it’s never missed a beat in all of these years!

I just got the green SMP 300. I haven't taken it off in 3 weeks. The Sub has to be thought about while wearing. The SMP on rubber disappears on the wrist.

I just picked up a 2020 Seamaster on black rubber for £3000 on Friday. Awesome watch!

My new SMP 300 brings me the kind of joy my first Submariner did when I purchased it for 5K in 2002. I still love Rolex but also agree with all of your points in this video.

I bought myself a Grey SMP 300m Chronograph last year for £5,751. Absolutely love it. Especially on the blue rubber strap. One hell of a watch for the money with the sensational calibre 9900.

I have both the sub 124060 and the black on black smp300. I bought the seamaster about 7 months ago and since then it’s hardly left my wrist. I really don’t mind it on the bracelet but it does look much better on the strap. I find I’m much more relaxed wearing the smp and I’m not worried about beating it around and really just using it as a tool watch. I agree with you 100% though that you need to experience both to fully appreciate what the smp is. It won’t substitute for a sub and it won’t get rid of that itch to own one. What it does do though is give you remarkable bang for your buck and give you a great looking and preforming watch for half the price. For anyone remotely interested in the smp I highly suggest just going out and trying one on in person.

Great Video! I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on your top choices for an everyday watch that could withstand hard use ✌

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

Great idea 👍🏼

Great comparison points 👍🏽, are you getting any other colors? The gray with blue version does look good on the metal bracelet, and the green on green rubber pops really nice.

The SMP, moneywise and technical aspect is the best watch. The Rolex has better presents brand recognition the reason why the Rolex is a lot more expensive because of the platinum that’s in the bezel and the white gold hands .. both watches a great.

Unless it comes on an oyster flex, all rolex watches look their best on the bracelet. Totally agreed with your point

I have the Brosnan SMP with gorgeous tritium patina, and wore it on my honeymoon. It was a dream at the beach. Absolutely timeless neo vintage piece. The problem with it is that the bracelet has no micro adjust, and demands a rubber strap as you accurately stated

I agree with you on the journey and milestone watches. You absolutely do appreciate other brands and watches way more once you have ‘been there, done that’. I appreciate other brands way way more nowadays… One other thing I have found ESPECIALLY nowadays is that many (especially in my industry) buy the Rolex to impress others and balk at other brands.

My first "luxury" purchase arrived a couple weeks ago. Pre-owned James Bond 50th anniversary Seamaster. I have ZERO regrets.

You didn’t miss anything. I thought it was spot on! If you haven’t had Rolexes you wouldn’t like the Seamaster. I’m bored sick of the waiting, politics, snobbery and price exaggerate on Rolexes. What got me back Omega was the Speedy hesalite and I’m now to buy SM 300 heritage and SM pro rubber - I get 2 new beautiful watches for the price of one used rolex . Imagine that!

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

Well said pal

@Mega-zi7ys

Жыл бұрын

Yes you will appreciate Omega after you own Rolex! Exactly my sentiments! Now my speedmaster 3861 hesalite gets 100% wrist time.. Just lovely and comfortable and no drama.

I have the omega white dial and I love 💕 it. No games no waiting just enjoyment and fun.

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

Sounds about right. Tired of the politics in a hobby that I like. I mean they’re just bloody watches!

It's a good day when Michael drops a video! I rarely comment but been here since the beginning! Good vid🇬🇧👊🏾😎

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

Thanks pal :)

Iam glad I’ve came across this review the Seamaster is something I am looking at for my next watch it’s between the Tudor gmt Pepsi or smp, can anyone help any experience with the Tudor and witch is the better watch, thanks

great video and thanks for info, on watch prices :) keep it coming hope for a speedy recovery for you and your family

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris !

Nice video. What made you change your mind on the 116610LN? I recall you not being a fan of them before and preferring the hulk or no-date.

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

Was just a good buy. The wife will probably wear the Sub since I have the sd4k already.

Agreed on all counts. Great move on the sub under 10k. Love the SM300 on rubber, specially the price.

I have both, just bought the green seamaster. They are both great watches and agree with your comments about smp being a true collectors watch and flying more under the radar

Fantastic breakdown!!!! I think the SMP is a solid watch! I just happen to like the bracelet unlike a lot of people. The silver blue is great for casual outfits but black is great with ANY outfit if that makes sense. Kangeroo.

Hey man, i just discovered your channel, first video was the long term 116610/114060 review from 4 years ago. You are a cool dude and i really like your opinions and experiences you have with these watches, really resonates with me. It is really interesting how your "taste" and preferences changed over time, looking at your video history. I don't want this to get too long, but i must say, i never looked at the sub and seamaster as rivals strangely. Since i can remember i always thought of them as 2 pilars of the dive watch world. In fact i called them "bloodbrothers" when i began with the watch hobby. Keep it up, really like what you are doing! Subscriped! best regards from Germany, Dennis

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

Cheers Dennis

The milestone watches bit resonated with me so much. You will have the itch for a sub, until you get it.

absolutely agree! where did you get the clasp and strap? I looked on Omega's website and couldn't find it..

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

I bought used and it was all there. But should be possible. Have seen it online.

Another great video. Thanks, Michael!

I have a black GMTc and a Milgauss Z Blue. Been waiting for a 41mm Sub ND since its launch... I agree with your points and was seriously considering getting the white SMP for the same reasons as you but its a tad big and thick for my 6.5" wrist after trying it on. I don't like the bracelet but find myself inbetween the pin holes on the rubber strap... with all that said, I think I will be getting the new 2022 Breitling Superocean black on rubber strap instead.

I have the same Omega for a month and I love it, submariner date in on order since dec and should come at the end of the year. I love divers and this 2 watches are a must for me. Nice to see your view of how you feel about a watch.

10:24 you have single handedly covered every single sentiment that I feel toward Rolex. I'm the owner of a 126610LV and a BLNR that I was lucky enough to get for MSRP a couple years back. I'm actually on the verge of selling both. I've been on the "waitlist" for an AK for over a year now with my AD (even though I've spoken with the manager, it feels like I had to start over with my AD because my rep no longer works there). It feels the opposite of a luxury experience this time around. Also, because I live in a major city, wearing either of my Rolexes is a pain in the ass. Also have to be mindful what part of town I'm going to be in and always have to be looking over my shoulder to see who's spotting my watches. I've already had a couple of situations that could have gone south if I wouldn't have been immediately aware of my surroundings (I was able to leave immediately in both situations before anything happened). Both watches are insured but insurance isn't going to prevent robbers from pistol whipping me. In about half the robberies, the robbers pistol whip or attack their victims first (to put them in a vulnerable state) and only then ask for the watch afterwards. At this point it makes no sense to me having this much money tied up in watches that I can't daily wear. It feels like I've paid a lot of money to put a target on my back every time go out lol. With the money that either one of these will fetch me, I can get a timepiece that is five times the watch and that won't be as recognizable. While these models are still overvalued, I'm going to take advantage.

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

Cheers for sharing mate. Yeah it’s a hassle right…

I have the SMP 300 white dial on the rubber strap and just love it

Blue dial Smp and black Sub is for me complete collection

6:12 10000000000000% accurate. I couldn't agree more. This is how I know that you know your watches sir!

Great Video. I own both got the Blue dail Seamaster 300 42m and have Rolex Submariner date 2016 my Seamaster gets more wrist time and its better value than the Submariner and l will add another Omega watch to my Collection

Great video. My only disagreement is that the SMP looks the best on a mesh/Milanese bracelet strap, not the rubber. They do need to rework the standard bracelet for sure.

Great video. I just recently purchased the green SMP 300 on bracelet and I have ordered the rubber strap, this is my first luxury watch, I have side stepped the Tag, Breightling and Tudor. I think the bracelet dresses up the watch but the rubber looks good and probably better for daily wear. Like you said both are great watches, but for the price of the SMP you are getting alot of watch for the money and at the end of the day it's all down to personal taste. I am not craving my next luxury watch this one will keep me happy for many years. Peace.

Own the same Omega SMP. Amazing watch. How can I get that deployant clasp?

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

From Omega I believe mate

I'd be interested in your opinion of the Planet Ocean 8900. It's a better watch than the 300M (imo) and comparable in pre-owned pricing.

@frankdux5693

Жыл бұрын

I have the 8800. I like it. It was between that and a Rolex sub. After trying both on I bought the omega. The Rolex was too dull for me, seemed more suited to someone a lot older than me. Too old manish. The omega was nicer imo. I've never regretted that decision. My next watch more than likely is going to be a Rolex though. Think im going with a 36mm oyster perpetual with silver dial. After that I'm thinking if a orange doxa sub.

I was lucky and got a Sub after a 4 month wait, it was the watch I craved and I am pleased with it. A year later I bought a white SMP300, I often put my sub on for an hour or so, then pop upstairs to put the SMP on for the rest of the day. If you take the brand and value of the watch out of the equation, for me the SMP is the watch I reach for and enjoy the most out of the two.

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

Well said. I’ve been wearing my SMP a lot recently too.

@Mega-zi7ys

Жыл бұрын

Saw it on a friend recently.. black dial chrono smp on rubber. It's really stunning in the flesh. And without the "baggage" to go with it. It's just a beautiful watch... doesn't look like jewelry. For me it's the speedmaster 3861. The sub no longer gets wrist time. The more I wear the Omega the better it gets... it flies under the radar and good for all occasions... Just more subtle I think. Great!

@stevedeffley6128

Жыл бұрын

@@Mega-zi7ys I have a Speedy 1863 and it's my favourite watch in my collection. That is followed by my blue Seamaster 300 heritage, then my white SMP 300, then it's a toss up between my Tudor GMT and the Sub which comes in 4th place. The Sub is nice but overhyped in my opinion.

@Mega-zi7ys

Жыл бұрын

@@stevedeffley6128 agreed.. especially the modern ones. Somehow there's something about speedmasters and smp.. until you experience it , you won't know. You need to wear them to feel it. Just feels so right. Hard to explain. Best regards

Michael what are your thoughts on... Cartier Santos ADLC wssa0037 with rubber strap - I think would look killer on you? i'm thinking of getting!

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

I think that watch is bloody cool man. Wouldn’t mind having one some day.

@ReturnOfWilderness

Жыл бұрын

@@SteelmoonWatches epic! yeh there are some great videos on youtube of it, no scratch issues too just a cool trendy eye-catching watch. The all black does appear small on wrist as 39mm but i think the one i sent you with silver edges brings it all together.

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

Yes the silver black or silver blue ones are great. I’ve been impressed for a while now

Yeah agreed, the lugs on the 116610 are too fat for a rubber strap but it does work on a bracelet, whereas the SMP looks far better on the tapering rubber. I'd probably get the SMP on a rubber strap with deployant clasp rather than the pin buckle though.

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

Yup I can confirm the deployant clasp is great on it.

Great review, that I really enjoyed. I wore Rolex for 30 years. It used to be fun to buy and sell Rolexes. Not anymore. Way too much nonsense surrounding Rolex. Beautiful watches, of course but not fun anymore. Omega, great watches, reasonably priced, without the B/S. I have 2 Omega's now and I am deciding on my third Omega. Cheers

One of my favourite watches of all time is the new 36mm explorer. I find that after the price hike of 2022 it really doesn’t make much sense to buy one anymore. Would love to see very solid alternative to it… but there isn’t anything that comes close! Does anyone know of a solid 36 mm watch with great build quality and a glossy black dial??

@monsieurbennett

Жыл бұрын

BB36 is very decent for the price.

@Mega-zi7ys

Жыл бұрын

Aqua Terra

I would go White dial and rubber, only way for me for the Omega

Love the omega ❤ , I would like to own both, they really are both very beautiful watches

Great vid and legit points. Excited to pick up my white SMP300 (on rubber) tomorrow and hit the gym with it straight away! 👊🏼😎

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

Enjoy!

I got my dream collection, Speedmaster 3861 SS and a Seamaster 300M for a couple extra grand than a Submariner. Couldn't be happier!!

You wear the SMP, you baby the Sub. Omega is bang for buck a terrific purchase, the new summer blue SMP is a beauty

I own the Seamaster 300 and prefer it on bracelet, I have a 7.25 inch write and fits perfect. Recently, I tried the watch on rubber strap / buckle and it needs microadjustment on the clasp. I was between sizes and it was either too tight or too loose. On a side note, I own an Oris Aquis on rubber strap, now that is an absolutely brilliant designed clasp and strap.

Enjoy your content and perspective. Another great video

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

Cheers mate :)

Just discovered your channel after acquiring a birthyear 16600 last month in Tokyo. I really like your taste perspective on watches Michael:) I also live in Dubai so perhaps one day I'll see you around:)

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

Thanks pal. Easiest to follow me on my IG :)

Great video again. First real watch was 2007 Omega 200 smp. Ben through a number of Rolex. Now cat take the omega off for all the reason mentioned in this and other videos. Plus this omega actually IS what you are looking for, slim, sporty, dressy, robust and unpretentious 👍

I don’t know where you are in the world right now but I am driving some beautiful roads in Boston going to a drop off watching the sunrise and listening to you talk about watches for the last 20 minutes has been absolute joy due to the fact of your pacing and relaxed nature. Excellent video and I will subscribe! Just very matter-of-fact real.

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate. Appreciate the kind words! Have an awesome drive 💪🏼 btw I’m in the UAE.

Michael, the new 126610ln is perfection! Its the end of the journey, your 1 & done. The 1mm tweeks create balance and allow the date to look right! I never wanted the sub date but the new 41mm has hit me and feels right regarding new tech and visual balance

Personally I prefer the seamster. Simply because it’s half the price, you get more features and you can go to any omega retailer, buy one and walk out with it that day

great vid Michael...you views are fair and balanced...keep up the great work...and hope you recover soon...Cheer!!

I have both watches . I LOVE the OMEGA ❤

Both of the watches are great I have omega sea master also a Rolex submariner date a 50 birthday present from my son love both of them

I wear an SD43 daily but looking for a blue dial diver to add to my rotation. I'm more and more drawn to the blue dial SMP but can't deny that the black dial looks spectacular... Do I need another black dial diver hahaha

My first Swiss watch was the Seamaster, bought in 1980’s I think. Love it and will never sell it. My favourite is my 4k though. Think we have similar tastes in watches!

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

Seems it hehe

I've had my Seamaster for a couple of weeks and you're right, as someone who hasn't owned a Rolex; it does not kill my desire for a Submariner. My experience thus far has been a bit of a roller coaster ride, but I do appreciate it for its own merits. I disliked the lack of traction on the bezel, but I've either gotten used to it or have broken in the detents a bit more. I initially hated the bracelet, but I love the adjustability of the clasp and find it surprisingly comfortable for the weight and lack of taper.

not sure how anyone would say that the seamaster bracelet is bad ?

Going back to this video. I know its late and not many will see this. BUT, I purchased the new longines legend diver 39 a few months ago and let me tell you….its COSC, 300M, gorgeous tapered bracelet, etc. for $3,200 retail. When you account for price and pound for pound, this watch might win.

Well put... sanity prevails... :)

I've owned a Sub 114060 a few years now, since one year or so I've been thinking about buying a SMP300 because I am really loving that watch (except the bracelet!) BUT so far I haven't gone for it because I can't justify another diver which looks similar to my Sub... Plus I already have a Rolex Explorer II, a DJ41 and an old Speedmaster. I'm concerned about wrist time and I am worried that I wouldn't wear the new watch much all things considered... (and I don't want to sell any of my current watches). So I must feel content with what I've got right now, I guess.

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

You have all your permissions to buy another hehe

Great observation about the journey. I totally agree. I only have one Rolex (Black GMT 116710LN). It was my milestone watch and will never be sold however I just realised I don't need another Rolex especially all the games you have to play with AD's. I have plenty of other watches too including 2 Omegas (Speedy and an early Planet Ocean) and a nice Tudor Black Bay 41mm which after this video will be sold and I'll be acquiring an SMP 300 on rubber. Haven't worked out which combo yet (black or green). And it's all your fault, Michael. :). Take care, brother and keep creating the no BS content. It's as refreshing as your SMP.

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate. Appreciate the kind words. Yes for me Tudor are still Rolex’s official homage brand and that rubs me up. Very happy with the SMP. Black Green or Blue look great - you can’t go wrong. Whatever colour fits the collection.

@galaga8834

Жыл бұрын

@@SteelmoonWatches I think the blue is a little too saturated. It should have been darker and it is most evident in direct sunlight.

It's very hard to get the marketing stuff, price, availability and prestige out of one's head. For oneself and for the people around you. In the case of the Rolex, it helps me to wear them with a certain disrespect for their image. That may sound weird, but only then, i can fully appreciate their value.

The ceramic subs do look good on a rubber strap if… on a RubberB strap perfect and seamless fit. Try one for your sub! Good video!

A real reflection of owning both rather than the typical R VS. O which is only clickbait. Cheers

Have the subs and sea dwellers, but picked up a nekton edition omega and enjoy it as well, better to travel with.

13:20 is exactly what happened to me. Now I wear my golden eye black bond more than my sub. It’s more fun and the dial is more interesting. Funny enough I had the SMPC 5 years ago. It was my first expensive watch. I didn’t appreciate nor like it at all and sold it after 6months. Then I started the journey with Tag.

I had both of them and sold them for a Panerai Submersible. No regrets.

100% agree with the price differences. How can you really compare the two, it's not really fair. The Omega is a much better value for the price. In reality though the two watches are very similar and should be priced very similar but we all know Rolex prices have always been inflated even in the best of times.

I own the SMP you have, it’s a great watch which I wear everyday and have done for years. However, I’d have a sub in a heartbeat. But it says something about the power that Rolex has as a brand that you’re pleased with a second hand watch over retail price - when you can freely pick up an equivalent Omega! Rolex is an aspirational watch, that people will remember for the rest of their lives as marking a point that they ‘made it’, they probably won’t remember the Omega the same way.

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

Goes in hand with what I mentioned about Milestone watches and ‘the itch’. Thanks for sharing

What do you think of the sky dweller’s

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

Thick and prefer the DJ

agree 100% on 6 digit rolex exclusively on the bracelet. for one, the hole for the springbars are close to the case and make it a real PITA to get them on. Also, it will chew up your strap. Secondly, the 5 digit models are just better proportionally. Look better on a after market strap. 6 digit models, especially the sub, are beefier.

I just can’t get over the annoying Reese’s cup on the side and I love the cyclops so that’s the deal sealer for me. I love my 5 digit V serial with engraved Rehaut. I also didn’t grow up wishing I had an Omega. I do love the back and white wave dial Seamaster but I could only afford one.Maybe down the road.

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I passed on a sub at the AD. Why? as you put it: I’d feel like a donkey wearing it. Well explained!

You bought a better watch, then you bought a Rolex. 💪🏻 Put the smp on an Omega mesh bracelet.

I love my seamaster professional 300m it's a beautiful watch. Worth every penny $5,000 to $7900 isn't cheap by no means. But that $5 grand is much easier to part with and to get over $9grand to $15 grand and so on..... and you get a watch that's damn close to the Rolex version... they are pretty similar and look similar. Both are absolutely amazing and beautiful. You can't go wrong with either.. I got em both and I wear the omega way more than the rolex.. to me it's just better. Some like it some don't and some love it n prefer it over the Rolex and vice versa.. it's a personal preference. They are very durable very nice watches.iv had mine since 09 and it's never had any problems and my sub same with it and my presidential it's had a prob in the past but I got it fixed. It sits in my safe now.. it's solid Gold and honestly it don't go with everything so it don't see much action anymore. Now one watch I want is the hulk it's the nicest looking watch from Rolex in my opinion.. ;)

Seamaster 300 should be compared to the SD. Don’t own a black sub as it’s the most cringe worthy Rolex watch ever🤢 However, personally, I prefer my SMP300 over my SD’s🤷‍♂️ Just added the Seaweed to the collection. Will be wearing it on a white Rubber B. The next decade will be a Omega decade… coming from a long time Rolex owner, trader and (former) fan.

@Mega-zi7ys

Жыл бұрын

Yes Omega on rubber is lovely! Less drama too.

I have the current gen Omega in black bought in 11/19. Bought the 114060 (current gen at the time) Sub in 2/20. sold the Sub. I just like the Omega better. There is nothing about the Sub, although its great, that's better IMHO. Other than Brand/legacy/heritage. But physically, mechanically, what's better about the Rolex? even at the same price?.

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Just brand really and they’re ruining it a little in my eyes

Great Vid, agreed, I’ve just bought an SMP on this basis, walked into Rolex DM carrying the new Pelagos 39 id just bought and they wouldn’t even entertain putting me on the list 🤷🏼‍♂️ Sounds like they’re saving them all for Chinese tourists 🤫

In the 90's I bought a Seamaster 300 Chrono Diver. Then to satisfy an itch I bought a black Submariner and whoa, then the shit really hit the fan! The Rolex looks better when you are out of the water, while the Omega looks better while you are *in* the water! The Lums on the Omega are better. The Omega has a lum on the bezel at zero. Unlike a Daytona, the Omega can time two activities at the same time. Unlike a Daytona, The Omega's pushers don't screw down, yet they work even while under water! Unlike the Submariner, you can read the date even on an angle. The Omega's sapphire crystal doesn't reflect in your face like a Submariner does.

I just got a Brosnan Reissue 2222.80. 36mm It is a beautiful watch. I love the bracelet(?) Dollar for dollar you are right the SMP is better (value) watch. (Rolex does not have a see thru case back) What are they hiding?

I have no Idea why ppl in the comments say a 40mm looks small on you, because you push weights ffs! That straight up BS! The sub looks perfect size on you same as the SD4k which is the best Sport Rolex in my opinion especially the 2015 models! And that Sea Master looks🔥🔥 on the wrist too. You even had me looking at the blue or black Sedna gold 2 tone on the rubber strap! Glad you don't listen to comments and you buy what you like. Over 44mm is a (look at me watch) I have a big watch on my wrist c*&t! 🤣

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

Lol true. I value the comfort of ‘smaller’ watches.

@MyVideosWillCalmU

Жыл бұрын

@@SteelmoonWatches Same 💯💯

@chaosad4508

Жыл бұрын

Why would 2015 models from SD4k were that special? Just curious as I'm just having one.

Great Comparison and thoughts shared here. Just my two cents: When Rolex becomes Patek ( availability & price ), Omega slips into it's place. Oh I know what you all are thinking! And whatabout Tudor? Well, Tudor will be the next Omega. ( Affordable average Joe watch ). Mark my words... Omega just need to start killing off some models noone asking for it and they will get even more sought after. I think Michael did a good Job with buying himself this Omega SMP 300, Seamaster Professional 300m Diver and I really see him enjoying this watch for ever.

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

Well put mate.

Seamaster has a good bracelet.

i have both SMP and Sub, however my Omega date couldnt change dates after owning it for 8 months, completly lost my faith in Omega and sold it after service at a loss. Whereas for the sub, after owning it for 2 years, still no problem and I can sell it today at a profit.

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

Even BMW and Mercedes and Rolls Royce have their issues mate. Yet we give them a mulligan.

Smp is better I have both it feels more classy less chavy

I prefer the Sub. It's a thinner diver The 120 click bezel action feels better Sub has no helium escape valve Sub has more serious dial. No cartoonlishly large markers and waves and skeleton hands with red text and red tip ect. Sub doesn't do that double AR coating smudged marker reflection or micro scratches on the thin layered film thing

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

All relative

The smp is more of a gentleman's sports watch. The modern Sub is more of a bling crowd watch. That's just the way it is.

A couple of comments as a new SMP 300 owner: 1 the HEV is hardly noticeable, it doesn’t catch or get in the way at all. 2 when turning the bezel, grab it at 10 and 40 (as to 12 and 30) and you will not look like silly KZreadrs with Vaseline on their fingers. 3 the rotor is a little noisy. 4 because the date window is soo deep, it can cast a shadow on the date wheel (white dial anyway) making the date look off cantered sometimes.

100% the Omega SMP 300 is the more beautiful more watch for the Money

Always find the argument to be an infantile mute argument .. Both are great sports watches so it’s what’s best for you as an individual that counts . I own both and probably don’t have a favourite both have their advantages however my omegas get the wrist time .Bracelet and bezel action personally think goes to Rolex . Movement AR coating to omega . I scratch my head why omega don’t update the heavy clunky dated bracelet, on the rubber it’s great .. I have six modern steel sports and they have never moved from the vault in 6 months I’m just over rolex as a brand . I undoubtedly enjoy omega and Tudor more these days , no drama on wrist . I had the same experience last time I was in the Rolex boutique. Asian tourists I believe from Singapore buying watches in Glasgow it’s horseshit . This type of shit puts you off the brand completely..

@SteelmoonWatches

Жыл бұрын

Totally agreed, don’t need the drama and disrespect on my wrist.

@Mega-zi7ys

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Ahhh agreed completely! You should go to hk, sg and Japan rolex all over rhe place in tiny mom and pop shops. And they're a dime a dozen plus wearers tend to be the "dramatic" showy types. That's why I have shifted to Omega already so much more sobriety and coolness. Just an opinion of course. To each his own. Best regards

@Mega-zi7ys

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@@SteelmoonWatches hahaha same here same here!

Hey Michael, very thoughtful video! At the time of writing there are 835 Subs for sale in the UK alone, starting at £8k for 16610s. Talk about a watch nobody wants! 6-7 years ago they were around £4-5k which frankly is where they should be. I’ve never owned one so these are my thoughts. It’s an attractive watch I’ve lusted over in the past, like everyone else, but looking at it objectively it is a bit boring. Classy, sporty, timeless, yes, no doubt. But there are much more interesting watches out there for less than half the price. I have a 3573 Speedy and am an Omega fanboy but the SMP300 is not for me. I don’t like the bracelet and can’t stand the skeleton hands. It’s a fantastic watch for the price, but for the same price I’d lean towards a used SPO600 which has better specs and looks more timeless, though I admit even the 38.5mm version is like wearing a tank on your wrist. But here’s the thing about the Omegas v Rolex debate. I went to my local AD to put my name down for my grail watch an OP36 blue dial (I have a 6.25 wrist). I got the Rolex AD treatment and was told 2 years then interviewed by a sidekick. I was able to handle a DJ36 they had on display. It was supremely beautiful but for RRP of over £6k, I thought it was flimsy, it’s the exact word which came to mind at the time. I’m sorry but for that price I can get a BB36 and an Omega diver or a BB GMT, all of which are just as well made. Granted they don’t have that timeless iconic look, but imo are more interesting to look at, cheaper to own and probably would get much more wrist time. I’m not a flipper so if I get the call (I’m not chasing) I’m not sure I’d actually buy it, and if I did, I’m not sure I’d actually wear it. Now what is the point in that?

@SteelmoonWatches

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It’s all over priced nonsense mate, I agree. For example The new deep sea challenge won’t sell at all, until it is discontinued, at which time everyone will buy it just to keep as an asset lol.

Great comparison, I own both, and I completely agree with your views. Smaller men under 6.5 inch wrists may not be able to look good wearing the smp300. Smp300’s rotor is slightly noisy. SMP300 is incredibly good value and feels a little more special as there aren’t as many people wearing them as subs. Agree that almost all modern Rolexes look weird on aftermarket straps. Lastly, my advise is that if anyone really wants a Rolex, go get one, do not get the smp300 as it is not a sub replacement as it has its own identity. Both great watches. Subscribed. Cheers.

@SteelmoonWatches

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Thanks for the feedback pal 👍🏼

@Mega-zi7ys

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Agreed, if you want to be "seen" (but kinda over exposure) get a sub. If you're a secure individual who's more mature and knows what he wants get an smp.