Update: Ozil picked a remarkably bad time to start running again 🤦‍♂️🤣. The concept still remains though

Inverted wingers and false 9s are new 10s

This is why Dele Alli should have been born 10 years earlier. He's a good example of a modern player that can't fit into most top teams

@pt17171

3 жыл бұрын

Is this sarcasm? Dele Alli IS the definition of the problem and a modern "number 10" who plays like a robot and follows instructions given to him by the coach.

@riyadinho6795

3 жыл бұрын

No dele alli is what’s wrong with modern no.10’s. He is part of the new era of creative players. System player

@netoobioha6317

3 жыл бұрын

@@riyadinho6795 I disagree somewhat. He reminds me of a muller player tbh. And yes muller is somewhat a system player but no matter what their biggest strength is being a “space investigator”

@riyadinho6795

3 жыл бұрын

@@netoobioha6317 well I’d actually argue alli is more talented player than muller in terms of dribbling ability and passing. Problem is he’s not that creative even tho he plays in the 10 role, like you said he’s more of a ball receiver/runner into space not one that actually handles the ball and creates the chances.

@netoobioha6317

3 жыл бұрын

@@riyadinho6795 maybe dribbling and natural ability but not passing. Especially after this year from muller. But yeah definitely agree on what type of player he is overall

The death of the number 10 is not evolution, is devolution and a retrograde step. We now have players who are great at the bleep test but can't do anything extraordinary or magical.

@FullyOnVolks

2 ай бұрын

Facts. Even more true today. The beautiful game is vanishing in favour of guys with 99 stamina

I love Ozil, I really do and I grew up with the famous no 10's... But I definitely agree with you regarding players having to evolve. Love how you gave image examples as well. Great video as always.

@The12thManFootball

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers for the ongoing support mate. Yeah I feel the same way - the number 10 role was so iconic and a joy to watch when carried out well so it's a shame to see it faded out of football, but I also love the high pressing style of football today so there's positives and negatives with it

@The12thManFootball

4 жыл бұрын

Forgot to ask - do you see the number 10 role returning in the future as tactics evolve, or is it (somewhat) dead forever?

@Sancar-vy6ye

4 жыл бұрын

@@The12thManFootball I see it in an evolved fashion. Like a mix of Ozil and DeBruyne. So incredible passing, dribbling but with high work rate. I feel thats the only way it could work in this modern day high pressure fast football. Happy New Year by the way.

@Timbone07

4 жыл бұрын

@@Sancar-vy6ye Work rate is overrated. Look at work horses with no end product

@thangchano

3 жыл бұрын

@@The12thManFootball it will be back as tactical formations recycle or evolve. 4-3-3 then 4-4-2 then 4-2-3-1(4-5-1) then back to 4-3-3.One day the legendary no10 will appear again. Less popular formations like 5-3-2, 3-4-3, 3-5-2, 3-6-1, dont really recycle as they are just varieties based on the more popular ones

Free role players and Number 10s were the best to watch and defined beautiful football! These pressing tactics haven't helped the beautiful game at all! The lazy but elegant players that produce magic are the best to watch not someone that'll press and run all day!

Really well made, loved the screen grabs to show examples!

High quality video. Great use of relevant (and recent!) PL clips to highlight your point. Enjoying the channel a lot, continue to keep things fresh and interesting and you'll do well!

@The12thManFootball

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers mate! What are your thoughts on the number 10 role dying out - do you think it could make a return in the future as tactics evolve, or is it gone forever? Many more videos coming so make sure your notifications are turned on 😁

I was looking for another video describing the no.10 role, stumbled upon it and u wasn't disappointed. Great video mate 👍. Hope u get more followers you deserve

Great video again, perfectly explained and the quality gets better too. Don’t sleep on this channel!

@The12thManFootball

4 жыл бұрын

Very kind, thank you Max! Great to have you as part of the community

Definitely less of them, but al long as Everton still have Sigurdsson im happy. Thumbs up on the video. You know this channel will get massive right?

@The12thManFootball

4 жыл бұрын

Sigurdsson is an excellent player and could definitely adapt to either a deeper role or a wide forward position. I can also see Ancelotti being one of the few modern managers to adopt the 4-2-3-1 shape (which includes the number 10) as he generally doesn't instil the Pep/Klopp/Poch style of play into his teams. Cheers for the ongoing support too Lee 😁

4-(3)-3 in addition the 2 sides in the 3 midfilders can help without Dept the two wing difenders and can switch always the wing back and the attack winger possitions to make sweet attack.

@The12thManFootball

4 жыл бұрын

I think you're trying to make the point that the full back and outside central midfielders can easily switch positions to provide extra attacking options? That's a great point and one which we often see in the premier league. Liverpool's midfielders often drop in to cover their full backs, while Man City's full backs often move centrally to cover their attacking midfielders

Lovely video man keep them coming

Great video lad! Im from Brazil and loved the video and the idea!❤🇧🇷

Brilliant analysis of the modern game, I have noticed this for some times now. The intensity level of the game is geting higher, teams can no longer afford to carry pasangers, attackers are now made to start pressing from the front. Only those who are willing to adapt will play or they would be left out

@The12thManFootball

4 жыл бұрын

Spot on - it isn't enough to be good on the ball in the modern game. A player's work rate off the ball is just as important too. It's a shame really as players like Ozil are incredible to watch, but simply don't have the work rate for high intensity pressing. Do you have thoughts on him?

@hanklesacks

4 жыл бұрын

The 12th Man His time at arsenal is almost over and it’s for the best, but he’s still a magical player.

@brusemartins2431

4 жыл бұрын

@@hanklesacks You are right. Maybe I am just going through the emotions

@hanklesacks

4 жыл бұрын

Bruse Martins I fully agreed with your initial comment mate

Its 2022 and the 10 is slowly going to come back, but has to be mobile and energetic enough to constantly switch throughout the game from central to wide areas as formations change in and out of possession and in different stages of possession. Liverpool signing players like Nunez and Carvalho, the wingers slowly hugging the lines more and more and cutting in as needed.

i wish fifa would learn this bc the 433 formation in the game is useless

This is true the number 10 has devolved and new positions create now messi for example would have been an Attacking Midfielder but due to his pace Short burst of acceleration he was put on the Wing the Right Wing also due to Barcelona’s system for not having an Attacking Midfielder in the 4-3-3 lineup which Messi could play but drops seeping into the position of the CM to link up with the Midfielders and now a days Players like De Bruyne Modric have become CMs to adapt to this new era of Football

@LeeRenthlei

4 жыл бұрын

Messi especially under Setién drop so deep that he's almost like a central midfielders

Great video 👍 but in the past few games özil has been good, he has been pressing on opponents center halfs or wing backs and been able to get freed and deliver good balls, Great vid again keep going. I think central attacking midfielders will be back soon.

@kairihd3521

4 жыл бұрын

They are coming back, look at Mason mount he is know for his pressing abilities from the 10 position

@SAADOFFICIAL436

6 ай бұрын

​@@kairihd3521 Who?

Good channel!

Quick question, I still don't understand the difference between a 433 using a false 9 and a 442 diamond using a 10?? Regardless of where they start, in the end, the false 9 is going to drop to the midfield to get the ball and his job will be either to attack the goal himself or pass to the two other forwards to set up a goal. So he gets the ball in midfield, plays behind the forwards, and his job is to create. Sounds like a CAM to me. I used to think that a false 9 needs to also be a prolific goal scorer when he runs into the box like Messi, but Firmino or Benzema during BBC don't score a lot either, so that can't be it.

All these youngsters I meet when they walk into the soccer shop all want to be a striker… I play goalkeeper and I wouldn’t change my position in a heartbeat but when I did play upfield I was passionate about learning how to play CM.. I thought Cesc Fabregas was a beat mid back then.

nice content

Awesome video

@The12thManFootball

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers mate! What are your thoughts on the number 10 role dying out - do you think it could make a return in the future as tactics evolve, or is it gone forever? Many more videos coming so make sure your notifications are turned on 😁

Nothing in football is ever extinct one day we might not be around to witness it the number 10 will re-emerge

Now we just have wide playmakers eg Payet who was so effective at West Ham You still have teams using 4 4 2 So number 10s work just fine but with specialities like Kante behind them Teams like Atlanta play two number 10s and use 3 CBs

@lifeisagameofknowingyourro6327

3 жыл бұрын

Bs Atalanta are crap Football has just become more systematic and simple Football back in 2010 was full of creativity and flair some one like Debryne is Robotic he is an system player even if his Versatile doesn't matter ofcource his creativity is high but he doesn't have flair so football nowadays is more focused on simple balanced no too much flair just enough creativity and versatility flair players r pretty much non existent nowadays basically free roam 10s.

@Timbone07

3 жыл бұрын

@@lifeisagameofknowingyourro6327 Not really. Messi and Ronaldo and star players in some squads roam freely. Atalanta are to watch but you can seek the weaknesses from their imbalanced formation and tactics

@lifeisagameofknowingyourro6327

3 жыл бұрын

@@Timbone07 that's why I said pretty much meaning almost and besides CR7 and Messi deserve to free Roam thy have won 11 balondors between each other given them freedom to play is no Rocket science it's just right.

@Timbone07

3 жыл бұрын

@@lifeisagameofknowingyourro6327 I cannot think of it off the top of my head but I doubt it is just those too. I could argue that players like Grealish get free roam even Payet

@lifeisagameofknowingyourro6327

3 жыл бұрын

@@Timbone07 well you might be right but it is less then it was in the past.

Great vid man. Im interested in writing content for you get in touch!

I grew my admiration of midfielders since they can do a lot of things like attack, defend, shooting and passing. But personally, I admire CAMs more due to their impressive ball control, passing and shooting The pure 4-3-3 made the midfielders at the center of the pitch. I mostly play PES Club Manager than PES 2020 Mobile, but one of my favorite things to do is to make different variants, as long as it's Total Football. My 4-3-3 variant is where one midfielder can go deeper and the other two can go for the attack, perhaps close to 4-1-2-3. Cruyff's 3-4-3 Diamond formation is my most favorite and my most used formation since I can use one CAM while the other 3 midfielders have a balance of attacking and defending. To me, CAMs need more love.

A good game depends on players , ozil is a good 10 player bat lacking good finishers in arsenal Deemed his career

I love this video bro

I see, but how is James Rodriguez still effective?

@kjelvin4593

3 жыл бұрын

He play as a right winger

U not making any more videos sir ?

Hopefully Arteta can revive Ozil. Good video

@omermetin5643

3 жыл бұрын

Fenerbahçe will try it now, if not, it will install the system that Özil can play

@r3zaful

3 жыл бұрын

@@omermetin5643 still shit

ozil, Isco James, Coutinho, Gotze, Mkhitaryan and Dybala all did not adapt. Firmino became a 9, De Bruyne and Bruno became 8s

But no.10s r the classics they did the magical thing...nowadays it's just tactical pass and goal...

Video doesnt make sense as 4-2-3-1 & 4-3-3 were the most popular formations in spain when Ozil was good for Real Madrid. Also Ozil moves into wide positions all the time so he isnt easy to mark

@The12thManFootball

4 жыл бұрын

That's right, Ozil shone in the 4-2-3-1 shape for Real Madrid in their record breaking season as noted in the video. Also, you're absolutely correct to say that the 4-3-3 formation was around at the time. The point of the video is to highlight how most - not all - big teams have switched from the 4-2-3-1 to a 4-3-3 and this has killed the number 10 role in most - again, not all - teams. I hope you enjoyed the video regardless 😁

@praz7

4 жыл бұрын

Ozil used to work harder back in the days. Wenger turned him into a luxury player.

The game is all about pressing and transitions now, lazy players like ozil don’t fit in anymore. Joy to watch, but a passenger

@The12thManFootball

4 жыл бұрын

Spot on - the energy levels required for every player these days are simply too high to carry players who aren't willing to run. Do you think the number 10 role may return to football as the tactics develop or is it gone forever?

@kairihd3521

4 жыл бұрын

Ozil is ineffective while pressing so it makes no sense for him to press ,ozil should be taked to block passing lanes

@ryanfinnerty6239

4 жыл бұрын

The 12th Man I genuinely think it will return as more and more teams are playing with mid blocks in which 10s are able to find gaps the most in against this tactic. Also if a 4231 comes more and more rare the odd use could catch out oppositions.

Okay... But how about Chelsea under Tuchel??? He use 2 number 10 in 3-4-3 formation...

@r3zaful

3 жыл бұрын

Its 1 box to box with 3 strikers.

@poorchigga5209

3 жыл бұрын

@@r3zaful idk... The analysis said they play with 2 no10... And i heard that a lot...

@r3zaful

3 жыл бұрын

@@poorchigga5209 with kante you dont need more than 2 pivot. He himself can cover the entire field

@aakashdeep2298

2 жыл бұрын

@@r3zaful Pivot in Chelsea is basically Jorghino, Kante is more of a B2B destroyer.

Mourinho always said Ozil was lazy. Jose was right.

Why not instead of 4-3-3 with striker dropping deep just play 4-4-2 diamond?

@fishyfish6510

3 жыл бұрын

Because it has quite a number of drawbacks. It's too narrow leaving the fullbacks exposed. And if the midfielders move wide you lose the diamond. It's suicidal against teams like Liverpool who use the flanks a lot

That's why I'm a cam or a winger

Welcome to PnP era. Its all about pace and physical now.

Blaming Ozil for Arsenal's lack of Defensive midfielders and ball winners is pretty ridiculous Coutinho is thriving in Bayern and he is a number 10 who supposedly failed in Barca kzread.info/dash/bejne/f56omraYZrC1Z9o.html

@bungeespeaks6081

3 жыл бұрын

coutinho was poor at bayern, he had a few good games, but he was poor in the rest...they aren't even extending his loan

@Timbone07

3 жыл бұрын

@@bungeespeaks6081 What are his numbers ? Muller went so long without a goal. Bayern don't have the cash. Let's not pretend it's because of performance

@kjelvin4593

3 жыл бұрын

@@Timbone07 he was quit inconcistent for bayern

@Timbone07

3 жыл бұрын

@@kjelvin4593 What do you consider consistent? He is a playmaker and he consistently creates chances. Look at Arsenal. People underestimate the importance of playmakers until you have none in your team. Playmakers are as underappreciated as defensive midfielders since they play much deeper in modern football

@kjelvin4593

3 жыл бұрын

@@Timbone07 I rather have a defensive midfielder then a playmaker

Will back

@kjelvin4593

3 жыл бұрын

no

This dude's awesome !!!

@The12thManFootball

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers Samiur! What are your thoughts on the number 10 role dying out - do you think it could make a return in the future as tactics evolve, or is it gone forever? Many more videos coming so make sure your notifications are turned on 😁

No matter how good you place 11 pebbles, it will never win against a single boulder. That why football typhoon fighting each others to bought it. 🤑 money wins everything

Isco in 442 diamond

@The12thManFootball

4 жыл бұрын

He's some player! Can you see him joining the premier league any time soon?

@rayanem2625

4 жыл бұрын

The 12th Man I think he can play for Chelsea in 353 system or in Tottenham where Mourinho know how to use the number 10 (deco in Porto , Sneijder with inter , Özil in Madrid , even Lingard best season was with Mourinho ) sorry for my English

Tage ozill plz send 4 him

@The12thManFootball

4 жыл бұрын

He picked an annoying time to start running again 🤦‍♂️🤣

Messi is the best example of a number 10?

You are not accurate in assessing Ozil

Mesut was phased out because coward Arsenal couldn't stand up to their Chinese overlords.