So technically....it’s 3 Strykes and you’re out of the game...

@truthoftheuniverse4179

3 жыл бұрын

the XMEN professor was a fucking idiot for letting that HOT BLUE ASS GO cmon MYSTIQUR IS THE FUCKING WOMEN,,SHE CAN BECOME ALL WOMEN

@misterdoctor8234

3 жыл бұрын

They have already stated that it wasn't Emma Frost in the Origins film.

@gmaxion2001

3 жыл бұрын

@@truthoftheuniverse4179 so, if your sister was as hot as Mystique, you'd bang her? That's pretty much how Xavier saw her. He studied mutation, so he was mutant blind and saw Raven as a good friend and like a sister. Raven saw Xavier as a hero and as the only person who would accept her as she was and when your only options are one person who accepts you for you, or being alone, attraction often goes to the latter. I'm sure that Xavier saw Raven as beautiful, but he isn't like the thirsty "I'll bang anything" generation of today. The emotional attraction was mutual, but not the depth of it. The sexual attraction wasn't mutual because Xavier had friendship blinders on. Had Xavier and Raven gotten together, it would've ended badly because you don't date your heroes because they're your heroes or because they're your only option. You see how easily she was attracted to Beast and Magneto? They were also appealing to her, although in different ways. Beast appealed to her need to be different, which is unhealthy while Magnetic was attracted to the real her.

@gmaxion2001

3 жыл бұрын

7:56 Christ Almighty! Did you watch ALL of the films? In DOFP, Logan hadn't gotten his adamantium yet. At the end of the movie, he's fished out of the water by the military, which what lead up to his getting adamantium laced to his bones. You also seem to not understand that the original trilogy, Origins: Wolverine, and the "prequels" were done by different entities and the prequels had to fix a lot of mistakes. Also, if you take Origins: Wolverine seriously, you're not the right person to critique the whole series.

@gmaxion2001

3 жыл бұрын

8:07 apparently the "cure" wasn't permanent. It also wasn't permanent in DOFP, which is why Xavier and Hank kept vials of it. Yes different sources, but it wasn't stated in X3 that the cyre was permanent. Also, Xavier didn't die because he transferred his consciousness into a coma patient. The only two things about that which made no sense were that the body was his generic double and he still had his powers in a different body? That's just. . .no.

It's very rare a franchise kills itself then revives itself then kills itself even harder than it already did

@FadzaiSimango

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, these films were like a crappy on-again-off-again relationship with the fanbase.

@reikun86

3 жыл бұрын

The franchise was its own Legacy Virus

@FadzaiSimango

3 жыл бұрын

@@reikun86 Bahahaha! Imagine if they'd adapted THAT storyline too.

@reikun86

3 жыл бұрын

@@FadzaiSimango I’m sure it would be a bloody mess, but part of me wants to see them try

@wearywanderer7018

2 жыл бұрын

Terminator is the other that comes to mind, they tried reviving 3 times

Fox’s XMen walked so the MCU could run

@daimonatkins3046

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@antona.1327

3 жыл бұрын

The MCU has just as many continuity errors if you break it down. Especially when it comes to hiring the same actors to play two different characters.

@mrcritical6751

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but at least the characters are consistent, it’s not like they hired Michael Douglas to play Hank Pym in 2015 and then casted an actor just ten years younger than him to portray him in the 70’s scene in Endgame. Meanwhile you got Striker in this franchise who clearly has Benjamin Button disease or some shit

@antona.1327

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrcritical6751 sure, yeah. However, they still cast the same actors for different roles, and if you notice it, it's distracting. Plus you do get to see continuity errors of the Fox-Men's nature. Such as when in Age of Ultron, in a post-crrdits scene, we see Thanos putting on the infinity gauntlet, but in Infinity War, which came out three years after, we are told Thanos got the gauntlet only recently.

@mrcritical6751

3 жыл бұрын

We have no idea when that scene at the end of Age Of Ultron takes place, also yeah the recasting of their same actors is distracting but at least it’s typically for smaller roles or they give explanations like how they rationalised casting one of the soldiers from Captain America as the principle from Spider-man Homecoming by putting a picture of the actor in his WW2 uniform on his desk to hint that he’s descended from him or saying Martin Starr is playing an older version of his character from Incredible Hulk. The only really questionable one is Gemma Chan being brought back for Eternals

As a kid this is when i realized wolverines name wasn't X man

@supergoku2071

3 жыл бұрын

Omg😂 I hated when people would call him that!

@fernie-fernandez

3 жыл бұрын

Ramz There is a character called X-Man, who’s an alternative version of Cable...

@ramz3119

3 жыл бұрын

@@fernie-fernandez Didn't know now and didn't know back then but pretty neat haha

@fernie-fernandez

3 жыл бұрын

Ramz Hell, X-Man is very underutilized, he even was playable in The PSP version of X-Men Legends 2...

@joecarter5001

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair he did that X pose a lot and was practically the main character

I never realized how confusing the Fox X-Men universe timeline is.

@TomGallagherSuperboyBeyond

3 жыл бұрын

The funniest part is, its not as confusing as the batshit crazy comic continuity, not just of the x-men, but all the marvel characters.

@AnalyticalMenace

3 жыл бұрын

Really? How could you not?

@xgray2012

3 жыл бұрын

Just think of X-Men: First Class, Days of Future Past, Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix in its' own alternate timeline. The original timeline is fucked up.

@SirBlackReeds

3 жыл бұрын

It's the curse of planning the series as a trilogy first.

@JcgLounge

3 жыл бұрын

It’s always been fu*ked. Only reason we didn’t think about it before was because we were more focused on them trying to tell a singular story.

"But Mystique in the comics, while not necessarily a "bad person..." In the comics she stabbed Ms Marvels' boyfriend to death with a kitchen knife while disguised as Ms Marvel herself, solely out of spite. She's one of those characters that writers sometimes like to write sympathetically or as an anti-hero, but is objectively a murderous psycho.

@them.

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, a lot of the anti heroes in marvel are just as bad of blokes.

@BigK13372

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah the whole push for Mystique as an anti heroine is pretty stupid considering a lot of the horrible stuff she have done that really does not make her worthy of being consider a good guy. Like with how DC making Poison Ivy a full on anti hero despite trying to literally murder a bunch of people in a biological terrorist act.

@jonathancampbell5231

3 жыл бұрын

@@BigK13372 *biological terrorist actS. Plural. Not to mention numerous bank robberies and murders just for fun.

@BigK13372

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonathancampbell5231 I know. But I meant the one she made while she was under that whole “anti hero” schtick during the New 52

@jonathancampbell5231

3 жыл бұрын

@@BigK13372 Oh my 0_0

I hated how Darwin was treated in X-Men First Class. His power to adapt to any danger makes him pretty much immortal, but no the movie needed a sacrifice to show how bad the bad guys are so death to the new kid.

@AliVercetti

3 жыл бұрын

I like to think he adapted by becoming pure energy. I'm sure he did this in the comics then was able to restructure his molecules.

@campbellsoup93

3 жыл бұрын

See, they should have brought him back in DoFP as the one they based the adapting sentinels off of. Would have made WAY more sense then Mystique. Dude's power changed him into energy and he took a decade to reconstitute his body. When he does, Trask captures him and he's too weak to escape due to just recovering. Mystique finds out and goes after Trask. The X-Men then have to stop her from killing him and the rest can play out the same, except for getting Darwin back for future movies.

@AceLM92

3 жыл бұрын

@@campbellsoup93 but that would have made sense and pleased the fans of the comics. The studio couldn't do that.

@k1dn1ce76

2 жыл бұрын

I was always confused by how that scene played out. It was like at first his form was adapting to survive it but it got to the point where the energy was too much and he was destroyed. Something like that at least I figured.

@Bestestboii

2 жыл бұрын

@@campbellsoup93 that’s a horrible idea and would get shat on by the fans for shitty resurrection of a nobody character from a previous film

The X-Movies timeline makes me feel impossible things.

@ulyssesveracruz8343

3 жыл бұрын

The dceu has entered the chat

@FlancitoConCebolla

3 жыл бұрын

@@ulyssesveracruz8343 The DCEU is rushed but the timeline is not even a little bit as confusing as the X-Men movies

@ulyssesveracruz8343

3 жыл бұрын

@@FlancitoConCebolla true

@spider-manunknown9193

2 жыл бұрын

The X-men timeline is as confusing as the FNaF timeline.

@youknowwhoyouare2269

2 жыл бұрын

😩 ANYTHING'S IMPOSSIBLE!

R.I.P Norm Spencer. The voice of cyclops in the original 90s cartoon.

@MrAjking808

3 жыл бұрын

Ok?

@caneimcdonald9226

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah...he did just die recently, R.I.P. I fucking love the 90s X-Men cartoon.

@gort3111

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrAjking808 learn some respect you prick

@syedshehbazjilani4486

3 жыл бұрын

@@gort3111 you are a dc fan right i love dc too RIP Norm Spencer

@gort3111

3 жыл бұрын

@@syedshehbazjilani4486 yeah im a dc fan i like dc more then marvel

I was so upset by the treatment of Rogue in the films. As someone who has made their hair “rogue” style on multiple occasions that character meant a lot to me as a kid. She was my favorite mutant. I love Anna but the writing and casting just wasn’t ever right for her.

@dc7981

3 жыл бұрын

I distinctly remember her and storm being not very popular back in the day. Especially with my sister who's an X men nut, combo that with Storm x Black Panther being a no go in the mcu and I think it's safe to say storm and rogue fans aren't the most pleased with the movies

@moviemoth4192

3 жыл бұрын

D C they definitely weren’t many’s favorite, unfortunately they make a lot of choices in the films that don’t really represent comic fans. But that’s bc they are trying to appeal to a wider audience. Just sucks to have something you love fucked with in the process

@charlespuruncajas9663

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviemoth4192 to be honest, I liked her role in the first and second movie but what a shame they wasted her in the third movie (she could have been useful in the final battle). Glad the Rogue Cut for DoFP exists

@mccarthy5825

3 жыл бұрын

@@charlespuruncajas9663 I love the Rogue Cut... Its the only version I have. Even the changes made that aren't to do with Rogue, such as Mystique coming back to the mansion and all...just a better cut overall in my opinion. We never got enough of the future part in the theatrical cut and it was great to see more older Magneto and Charles together

@charlespuruncajas9663

3 жыл бұрын

@@mccarthy5825 definitely

People are actually campaigning for Beyonce to play Storm? Please tell me that's a joke...

@nicolelooton6134

3 жыл бұрын

She better not

@charlespuruncajas9663

3 жыл бұрын

The last movie I saw her acting was Austin Powers 3 and she was fine, also she is already black

@technounionrepresentative4274

3 жыл бұрын

She definitely has the outrageous ego to play a character that calls herself "Goddess" constantly

@truthoftheuniverse4179

3 жыл бұрын

FUCK PROFESSOE X FOR DUMP MYSTIQUE THE PREFECT WOMEN

@_thecapellshow_8653

3 жыл бұрын

yeah we need a darkskin actress for her

Well actually, with sabretooth, he DID become more animalistic over time. a comic (i think xmen 100 but im probably wrong) its revealed that the mutation wolverine and sabertooth carry will eventually devolve them into beasts after a certain period of time, but wolverine getting the adiantum pretty much completely halted the de evolution process. sabretooth, however, grew into the animal he was because he didnt have any protection to prevent his bones and muscles to stop changing. in xmen origins, you can see that victor would act in very animalistic ways (running on all fours, crawling, growling and snarling, etc), and wolverine, prior to the adamantium implants, would act slightly animalistic as well.

@mccarthy5825

3 жыл бұрын

I read xmen and things like Wolverine, Cable, X factor/force... Even Excalibur... From Xcutioners Saga to after Onslaught and after magneto ripped the adamantium out and he went off, after Cyber broke his claws... Then when Genesis tried to bond Cybers skeleton to Logan he went mental and became totally feral and looked like an animal with spiky ragged claws and big fangs etc... Electra had to help him... I remember in some of those Xavier files he kept on how to kill the team... He mentioned how the adamantium was poisoning wolverine constantly so his mutation and healing factor were very taxed... Without it a life threatening injury to him previously was an annoyance now... So yeah you are dead correct my friend! It was a crazy run and I wasn't too fond of it but it had some gems of moments.

@youknowwhoyouare2269

2 жыл бұрын

K

@pyrothefriendlyarsonist9195

2 жыл бұрын

One of the what if of X Men had Sabretooth act like a wild animal while hunting down Jubilee

I’m watching this at 1% battery

@thewhitewolf7886

3 жыл бұрын

That's love ♥️

@probot6515

3 жыл бұрын

THE DAY NATALIE ZMB'S DEVICE DIED

@tommysanchez4757

3 жыл бұрын

F

@AnalyticalMenace

3 жыл бұрын

You'll never finish.

7:45 Wolverine having bone claws in DOFP is because this was a time before the Weapon X project gave him the adamantium.He was surprised because he didn't remember having the bone claws. He discovered he always had claws when Magneto riped his adimantium out in Fatal Attractions.

Days of future past and Logan were to me the perfect ending to the franchise with Dark Phoenix and new mutants it’s a shame the franchise goes out with a whimper

@QuasarYGO

3 жыл бұрын

I thought Dark Phoenix was okay. I think what won me over were the X-Men working together and the special effects from Cyclops. I haven’t seen New Mutants, but I heard the director removed all X-Men connections in hopes Marvel Studios notices the movie.

@zzzcocopepe

3 жыл бұрын

I think the only good ones were the first two movies. Deadpool also. Haven't seen Logan yet.

@zzzcocopepe

3 жыл бұрын

@Repo man yeah im doing an X-men series watch through, I just saw new mutants and im going through the rest of the movies, probably will end it will Logan since that seems to be universally accepted as a good movie and seems like the actual ending of the franchise

@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr

3 жыл бұрын

Cucumamacacapipi, I think that best finale of the Fox X-Man franchise besides Logan is Deadpool 2.

@bc5163

3 жыл бұрын

Isn't New Mutants a standalone film?

It's pretty clear at this point that First Class was supposed to be a reboot for the franchise, but then Brian Singer came along and said "hey y'know what? How about making this film a prequel to my own films." Then he made sequels to that prequel and tied up the loose ends together using duct tape.

@mrcritical6751

3 жыл бұрын

If it was a reboot then why would they include stuff like Hugh Jackman as a young Wolverine and Mystique becoming a more grown up version of herself by becoming her original actress

@AleksKwisatz

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrcritical6751 Those were cameos. Besides, role reprisals are not unheard of when it comes to reboots. JK Simmons is also reprising his role as JJ Jameson in the new spiderman movies. Also, Lou Ferrigno who played the hulk in the old live action TV series also voiced him in the 2003 film and the MCU version.

@jamorant8849

2 жыл бұрын

I mean I will say this days of future past was pretty good they just fucked up on every movie afterwards except logan

@PR-on7qk

2 жыл бұрын

That was already known back then. It was presented as a soft reboot.

They kind of rolled a bunch of human villains together and called them Stryker.

The problem with Alex and Scott Summer’s is not them being brothers as they are brothers in the comics. It’s the order for them. Alex is Scott’s YOUNGER brother in the comics. In fact their father is a pilot that becomes a Space pirate named Corsair.

Its funny cause mystiques comic book design wouldve been a lot less complicated to do as the makeup would just be simple blue body paint and red dinner party hair with the rich lady white dress she wears, Idk why on Earth fox decided to scrap that design to make her a naked, scaley lady with the dryest red hair ever, it would’ve been so much easier to do the comic design but fox was so scared of making the characters look interesting

@zaq93

3 жыл бұрын

Her movie look is way cooler though

@Spectra651

3 жыл бұрын

"Idk why on Earth fox decided to scrap that design to make her a naked--" You just answered your own question right there, my man.

@vi4269

3 жыл бұрын

People try to argue that naked, gelled hair, scaly movie mystique is more attractive than comic version and thats why they changed it but frankly the comic looks far, far better

@mew10521

3 жыл бұрын

@@vi4269 I agree

@vi4269

3 жыл бұрын

@@mew10521 glad to know I'm not the only one!

You are absolutely right. The original X-Men trilogy completely wasted Cyclops. James Marsden was indeed perfectly cast, but I can hardly blame him for ditching _X-Men: The Last Stand_ to follow Bryan Singer to _Superman Returns_ because at least he actually got to do something in that film. Sadly, that film didn't do well enough to reboot the Superman franchise, but that's another story...

For everyone that wonders what the hell happened to the Game of Thrones series, David Benioff wrote the script for Origins Wolverine, so it's not the first time he ruined source material.

Kelsey Grammer should have gotten his own movie as Beast...I don’t know what he’d be doing the entire time, but we definitely should have seen more of him in the role.

@PR-on7qk

2 жыл бұрын

The man is 67. I can imagine he wouldnt want to do this more than 1 time. Remember back in the days of Last Stand it wasnt very popular for actors to be in superheromovies. Marvel changed that.

20 years of movie, 13 movies and 2 live action shows and they couldn’t find a way to have mister sinister show up in any of them despite the set up and references

@mrcritical6751

3 жыл бұрын

They waited too long that’s the issue, give Marvel Studios credit when they set up Thanos they knew they had to give us a tiny bit of payoff as soon as possible by introducing him in the sixth movie and giving his a full reveal in the tenth. If Fox did it all we would’ve had was a mention of him in Avengers followed by his hand in another film, his name being on a wall or something and then we see nothing of the big purple Bastard ever again

@daimonatkins3046

3 жыл бұрын

Gambit actually appeared in person, which is something Mr Sinister didn’t have

@thebeaver8456

3 жыл бұрын

Partially why I like but don't love Logan because sinister and saber tooth was rumored to the villains of the movie and the ones we got kinda sucked. 7/10 good but could have been so much more.

@orinanime

3 жыл бұрын

2 live-action shows? Legion, right? What was the other one?

@daimonatkins3046

3 жыл бұрын

@@orinanime The Gifted

Overall the franchise has it’s pros and cons

@reikun86

3 жыл бұрын

I would say the same for any good franchise, i.e Superman, Star Wars, Batman. It depends who's at the helm of the project, and how much the studio is willing to put any money in while also running interference.

23:40 Iceman wasn't gay in the comics before he stopped appearing in the movies with that last appearance in Days of Future Past.

@zemox2534

3 жыл бұрын

I hate the retcon so much. Bloody Bendis ruins everything he touches.

If this franchise's timeline and Kingdom Hearts' timeline had a love child, it would be my brain functioning.

@Icup200169

3 жыл бұрын

throw in metal gear and now we're really talking

@carybeweary7209

3 жыл бұрын

It's child is the Terminator timeline

@lightningonlycommentsonce5824

3 жыл бұрын

Add the original Assassin Creed, Metal Gear Solid and Nier: Automata into the mix, you'd probably get the physical Manifestation of a ruptured brain aneurysm.

@carybeweary7209

3 жыл бұрын

@@lightningonlycommentsonce5824 Jesus!

@mrcritical6751

3 жыл бұрын

Throw in the Spongebob timeline as well because that’s super screwed up

6:27 Beast was actually introduced in X2. He's on the TV in the bar scene when Mystique seduces the guard.

@edwardbloecher4563

3 жыл бұрын

Yup in Human mode

@jackcouch8322

3 жыл бұрын

That’s to show that he exists in the universe, the proper introduction to his character was in last stand.

@edwardbloecher4563

3 жыл бұрын

@@jackcouch8322 Brilliantly by Kelsey Grammar in my opinion. :)

@mrcritical6751

3 жыл бұрын

@@edwardbloecher4563 Kelsey needs to be brought back for the MCU version, he is literally the only person who can play Beast perfectly

@edwardbloecher4563

3 жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree!!

The X-Men movies are a inconsistent mess: Logan's the best one IMO

@Thespeedrap

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder if the origins stories were in Xavier mind during Logan story just saying sometimes old people minds are confused.

When watching the rescuing of Magneto for the first time and seeing how Quicksilver was the only one moving through me off a bit. Then realizing Quicksilver is a speedster and understanding his mutant power showcase in that scene blew me away.

Sabertooth could actually have a canon explanation of why he devolved. Wolverine’s mutation would eventually get him into a permanently feral state where he’d become increasingly more of an animal, but his adamantium surgery is what blocked that. If Sabertooth has similar genes, that could be why this happened. Obviously they didn’t think of it, but it’s an explanation.

@rontellem1547

10 ай бұрын

Great explanation!

@cockstealer

9 ай бұрын

That IS the canon explanation. That is talked about in X-Men Origins.

@alexman378

9 ай бұрын

@@cockstealer It’s not.

Wolverine actually started his own school for mutants in the comics. The school of jean grey. It happened when cyclops basically became magneto, and killed professor x. Wolverine obviously not seeing eye to eye (pun intended) with cyclops on these matters. So he starts his own school. He has lead multiple teams in the comics. So idk why you insist on him not being leader material

Back when the first X-men movie came out, my roommate and I encountered Tyler Mane at a bar near a comic convention he was appearing at. My roommate, who was half in the bag, walks over to Mr. Mane (who is gigantic in person, and clearly just wanted to drink his beer in peace) and says the best thing he could think of at the time: "Tyler Mane, do fat bottomed girls REALLY make the rockin' world go 'round?". Tyler slowly turns to my roommate, brow furrowed, and stares at him for about 3 seconds before raising his mug of ale and shouting "HELL YEAH!". Nice guy.

@reikun86

3 жыл бұрын

Aww :)

@youknowwhoyouare2269

2 жыл бұрын

What an awesome story dude! Can you tell it again? Do you have time?

Iceman being with rogue wasnt a problem, that movie was in 2000, 15 years before he was ever fully confirmed as gay.

@wesleygriffiths8748

3 жыл бұрын

"Confirmed". Weird way to spell retconned.

@drethom087

3 жыл бұрын

@@wesleygriffiths8748 who cares, different writers interpret characters differently. The point still stands bud

@reikun86

3 жыл бұрын

I thought it was kinda weird that she was with Iceman, when her most well known relationship was with Gambit.

@parkeranimations3671

2 жыл бұрын

@@drethom087 but it is a retcon. Not confirmed. They would have should signs of him being gay. Scarlet witch and quicksilver not being mutants is a “different interpretation”

@drethom087

2 жыл бұрын

@@parkeranimations3671 you guys just like to argue. Your point is literally stupid, retcon or confirmation doesn’t matter in this point since it hadn’t happened. Iceman wasn’t confirmed or retconned to be gay in 2000 meaning the fact that he was with rogue in the movie wasn’t a problem at the time. You guys bringing up that it was a retcon or wasn’t foreshadowed yet fits that point. What was the purpose in your comment again?

Yes. In the comics Sabretooth’s mutation makes him more animalistic over time while Wolverine becomes more human. Sabretooth is who Wolverine would become if he gave in to the animal inside

@Galvatronover

Жыл бұрын

The problem is that it is ant explained in the movies or if the two are the same person

As far as I'm aware the continuity is like X Men Origins isn't canon in any timeline So first class, X men 1-3 and the bad future parts of DOFP seem to take place in the same universe. Where Mystique killed trask. (Mac from Predator's version of the character is clearly his adopted black son who took his name) and Logan is the canon future to this timeline First Class, Days of Future Past (the changed timeline version), Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix (along with the deadpool movies) and New Mutants are all in the fixed timeline where Mystique didnt kill trask or some shit.

@ottoroberts5163

3 жыл бұрын

Otto Pataki which shitty path do you choose? Also cool name

@mrcritical6751

3 жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure Logan is set in neither of the timelines as the director wanted it to be like the events of the movies were just stories about the X-men that had a happy ending (DOFP) and Logan is just the dark reality that the actual X-men stories lead to

@charlespuruncajas9663

3 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed Logan but I think it would be better if that film is a “What if?” Story. Also don’t forget New Mutants has references to X23. The Deadpool movies could easily take place in their own timeline, but with the time traveling sheneganens from Deadpool 2 everything is possible (and that’s fun with Deadpool, it’s a fourth wall breaking)

the timeline is completly fucked no matter how you look at it, it makes no sense

Some of those time continuity errors can be explained away easily, BUT some of them are just egregious to the point that it’s not even worth it.

@randomnerd3402

3 жыл бұрын

As an 11 year old right now and still growing up with the franchise, it's incredibly frustrating. Btw, The Wolverine is really underrated, the movie I mean.

@bebopman5

3 жыл бұрын

RandomNerd RightHere I agree about The Wolverine. Highly underrated, great action, the story was ok, but they made up for it.

@randomnerd3402

3 жыл бұрын

@@bebopman5 for sure

@reikun86

3 жыл бұрын

The continuity doesn't bother me since it is seen in comic books all the time.

Half of these points are confirmed to be true, are already retconned, or are pre-established from the comics

Patrick Stewart wasn't walking in X-Men Origins. He was inside their head

@AnalyticalMenace

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, dude clearly missed that one completely.

@TJ1380

3 жыл бұрын

I wasn't sure if that was the intention, but I haven't seen that movie in a while. I'll accept it as canon though.

@mrcritical6751

3 жыл бұрын

I mean technically it isn’t canon anymore because Deadpool killed himself in the past

@edwardbloecher4563

3 жыл бұрын

Wrong. He was there and walking.

No one seriously wanted Beyoncé to play Storm so stop it. Also isn't Rogue's portrayal supposed to be before she got Ms Marvel's powers?

There's no better comic book couple than Rogue and Gambit

X-men 1 got the ball rolling for superhero movies to be taken seriously, but the first SpiderMan movie IS the reason that the superhero genre is alive now. Why do I say this? Because in spite of its campiness, it was the highest grossing movie in the US the year it came out, and third highest grossing worldwide, only barely losing to LoTR: 2 towers, and Chamber of secrets, which ended up doing very well internationally. -Attack of the clones? Not even close -James Bond: Die another day? Not even close Even kids movies like Ice Age, Lilo & Stitch, or Scooby Doo? Not even close. Without SpiderMan, I’m 100% positive the superhero genre would not be anywhere close to where it is today

@CoopDVille-rx3hp

3 жыл бұрын

I totally agree. The first X-Men may have been the first in the genre as we know it today,but the first Spider-Man was the first GOOD film in the genre. And that campiness that was present throughout the Raimi films was pretty faithful to the tone of the comics. Especially the first 20ish years of Spider-Man stories. But being faithful to the source material is something that the X-films know little to nothing about.

@midsectionmark8956

2 жыл бұрын

True Spider-Man was huge , but some people (not me) didn’t like the camp in that movie and that’s where the different type of comic book movie like X-men plays it’s part in making Marvel live action movies big. Both X-men and Spider-Man on the marvel side for doing its part in giving something for fans something to enjoy and to invest in should always be appreciated.

This video is literally everything I've ever complained about when it comes to the X-Men movies! Especially what they did to my favorite X-man, Rogue. I have so much love for the comics, various cartoons, and certain movies in this franchise, so all the many things wrong with the movies have always been glaring to me.

@autobotstarscream765

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully the MCU gives Rogue better treatment, they're already off to a good start by setting up her favorite punching bag so she can get the Superman-like powers she had in the cartoon and in the comics at the time the cartoon was created.

I've always considered most of these different universe's or reboots. If you try to put the original fox trilogy and the recent prequel trilogy together. It just doesn't work. Ive considered them reboots

Magneto has been consistent and he has proven to be the greatest comic book movie villain. He's complex and sympathetic and played by two phenomenal actors

@tokyodeathghoul2313

8 ай бұрын

How many examples can you list of a character who was played to perfection on the first try only to be recast by someone who also manages to the exact same thing immediately after. And we got this with not just one but two characters in the same movie (that being Magneto and Xaiver)

I could listen to Vee pointing out every single continuity issue in the X-men franchise all day

Vee, you have become such a great youtuber. i am so proud of you. i've been subscribed for years, and i see you grow and grow with every offering. great job.

The easiest explanation for why the adamantium bullets affect wolverine and his clone differently is that they were probably different calibers. Regular bullets are made out of similar materials to each other but if you shoot someone in the chest with a .22 caliber round it will create a hole while shooting someone in the chest from the same distance with a .357 will make a damn crater in their sternum.

it's crazy that deadpool 2 made a more comic book accurate version of juggernaut then xmen 3

Proffessor X has often used his abilities in the comics to go through people minds or even wipe their minds without permission. He even used his mind wiping ability in a young emma frost once

Hey at least with Toad (well I guess this is both comics and movies) was the inspiration for Froppy in My Hero Academia

Legion is my favorite X-Men related project because it’s incredibly far removed from any other project so it’s able to stand on its own. It’s also visually appealing and the acting is some of the the best in the franchise.

9:05 They changed past so original trilogy didnt happen the same way and Charles probably was never got killed by Pheonix.

the "juggernaut bitch" wasn't really put in there for a meme. the line was a shout out to my way entertainment, a bunch of boys from chicago who created a series of parody vids called "the juggernaut bitch". hell, i think either the producer or director personally called the boys up and asked them if it was alright to use the line for "the last stand".

@zzzcocopepe

3 жыл бұрын

No it was a meme

@LowReedExpert1

3 жыл бұрын

Well yeah, the meme came from the videos you mentioned..

@maxacorn

3 жыл бұрын

i never said it wasn't a meme. i said it wasn't put there for a meme. it was a shoutout.

@charlespuruncajas9663

3 жыл бұрын

They should have used that line for the Juggernaut in Deadpool 2

I really think Disney/marvel need to wait about 5 years before they introduce the xmen in to the mcu, or everybody is just gonna be sick of xmen none continuity’s and leave everyone burnt out on the whole franchise

@thepubknight6144

2 жыл бұрын

Right these people wanting them to just force them into the current MCU are thinking as fans and not film makers

@roryevans4295

2 жыл бұрын

@@thepubknight6144 we’re just be completely burnt out, imagine they release an xmen film next year, do you think anyone would care? Because I don’t, we’ve already had 3 separate xmen franchises running from like the year 2000 (obviously new mutants doesn’t really count as they never finished it), are people really gonna give a shit about the 4th film version of Charles and Eric, we’ve seen them young, we’ve seen them old, what more could there possibly be to see, we’ve seen shit xmen films, we’ve seen great xmen films, we desperately don’t need another set of films for characters we’ve all grown up seeing, even in 5 years mcu-wise I don’t want to see Charles or Eric ever again, their storys have been told, if/when we add the xmen to the mcu we desperately need to focus on newer lesser known mutants, much like they did with guardians, switch the whole team up to avoid staleness, eww god just imagine having to do all of wolverine story arc again after Hugh jackman already did it, eww. let’s get some really obscure mutants for the xmen in the mcu, some really cult comic following hero’s, people they never thought they could adapt to screen again much like guardians, or how we definitely needed to wait for 2019 to get a good on screen mysterio in spiderman, we could never have done mysterio 10/15 years ago, it would have looked awful, but today’s tech made that possible. some cult/smaller following mutants and today’s tech should really mean we’ll be able to put whatever/whoever on screen instead of telling the same storys about the same characters, let’s have someone obscure like beak or skin maybe we even finally get that gambit movie that we were supposed to get like 15 years ago 😂

X-Men 2 X-Men first class X-Men days of future pass Logan Deadpool Deadpool 2 Are awesome but I can see where your coming from. I hate what they did to rogue and Cyclops. They rely too much on wolverine and I'd would have loved to see more solo X-Men movies like from storm, Cyclops, legion and Gambit. I hope the MCU doesn't fuck them up

@carybeweary7209

3 жыл бұрын

I don't have high hopes for the MCU not to mess it up seeing as last year some lady that works for them that have some say over the movies was talking about how she doesn't understand why they're called X-Men since they have women in they might have to change the name

@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr

3 жыл бұрын

Super Saiyan Master Shake, the actress you’re referring to was the actress that played Jean Grey in Woke Phoenix made by Fox before they were bought out by Disney.

Vee is too busy thinking about Cyborgs D*** to ponder why the actors don't grow older as quickly as the character should within the realm of the plot!

@carybeweary7209

3 жыл бұрын

I think it's part of their mutation but the movie's never confirm it Unless Dark Phoenix does cuz I haven't seen that movie and never plan to cuz it looks awful

@zaq93

3 жыл бұрын

The problem is they don’t age maturity wise either. It’s hard to buy that the FC thru DOFP takes place over 40 years

@mrcritical6751

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah for example Dark Phoenix is set in the 90’s, so these movies are expecting us to believe a young and handsome James Macavoy is gonna turn into an elderly just off of Star Trek TNG Patrick Stewart in just the span of a few years, same for young handsome Michael Fassbender somehow ageing rapidly into an extremely wrinkley old Ian McKellen in the span of a few years

@shanestern1788

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrcritical6751 imagine turning into gandalf after one decade

@mrcritical6751

3 жыл бұрын

It’s like they’re Benjamin Button or something but instead of turning younger time just catches up with them overnight and they wake up as old men like an even more screwed up version of Big

I remember the film makers for Origins Wolverine coming out and saying Sabertooth got a lobotomy between Origins and the 1st X-Men movie explaining the more animalistic nature in the 1st film

You have no idea how much I want comic accurate X-Men

The "How 'bout NO" killed me.

I'm with you, Vee. I mean, how hard is it for directors and writers to actually watch the previous movies to avoid the rampant continuity issues throughout the series?

In fairness to The Last Stand, Brett Ratner was sort of a last minute replacement due to Bryan Singer going to do Superman Returns, plus apparently Bryan Singer was actually a pain in the ass on the sets of 1 and 2 with stories about the cast and crew getting into fights with him because he was doing drugs or not on set, and actors got injured because he filmed stunt scenes before everything was set up.

Right after Apocalypse is vaporized, Mr. Sinister sends a crew to take mutant DNA following Wolverine's escape from the Weapon X program. It's possible he made a "twin" clone of Charles Xavier, and after the X-Men defeated him (off screen), Charles took pity on the clone and brought him to Moira McTaggert who took care of them in a secret high-tech facility. That's how Charles was able to transfer his consciousness to his genetically engineered twin after Jean Grey killed him in The Last Stand.

Finally. I have been waiting for you to cover this since forever

For those who want Beyoncé as Storm, that would be like having Madonna as Catwoman in Batman Returns. Would look fantastic and would definitely draw attention but the acting would not be good. From the X Men movies I’ve seen (1,2,Last Stand, Origins, DOFP), the only characters that got portrayed well (not necessarily comic accurate) were Logan, Magneto and Xavier and to a lesser extent Beast. Also I’ve never seen the appeal to Jennifer Lawrence. In all the movies of her I’ve seen, she is always crabby and bratty and only time she plays an upbeat role is when she’s being interviewed playing the role of “the cool next door who drinks beer and eats chicken wings and watches football all the time”

@PyroBlondie1

2 жыл бұрын

And she's like 50 by now!

I just discovered your channel today, I’ve been bingeing and I’ve loved everything so far but this video speaks to my nerd soul like none other lol. The continuity is just, I don’t even know what, and they really did Rogue and Gambit dirty. It made me want to rage quit but because I watched every single one several times so ya know, they just kept making them because we kept watching them.

Best Watch Order for the Movies - First Class - X-Men - X2 - Last Stand - The Wolverine - Days of Future Past - Logan Basically a pretty good 7 movie series

Thank you for bringing up the Emma Frost paradox. Like in X-men: First Class she was a grown woman in the 60's, but in wolverine origin she's a teen girl in the 70's... and don't get me started on what they did with Darwin. How do you kill the only character whose ability is to instantly adapt to survive...

The whole mutant power level thing reminds me a lot of Seven Deadly Sins where in Revival of the Ten Commandments they just randomly introduce power levels even though the entire past season didnt have power levels and for the rest of the series every character uses power levels as if its always been a thing

*This is the one we've been waiting for boys*

It’s called X-men the last stand

Good vid bro love the content keep it up

The Day Hannibal Lecter films died. Make it happen.

@daimonatkins3046

3 жыл бұрын

Hannibal Rising

@mainstreetsaint36

3 жыл бұрын

@@daimonatkins3046 Franchise falling! Until the TV series!

@anubusx

3 жыл бұрын

That film was terrible.

@edwardbloecher4563

3 жыл бұрын

X 2 Brian Cox aka Stryker was actually the first actor to play Hannibal. In the movie Manhunter.

@edwardbloecher4563

3 жыл бұрын

X 2 Brian Cox aka Stryker was actually the first actor to play Hannibal. In the movie Manhunter.

New mutants actually wasn't bad. It's not amazing but if you enjoyed the demon bear saga in the comics, it feels kinda like a Logan universe take on that, just taking place 20 years before Logan does.

@ramblinman07

3 жыл бұрын

New Mutants seems to be set in the present day so it would be about a decade before Logan which takes place around 2029.

@charlespuruncajas9663

3 жыл бұрын

But they featured Logan scenes as flashbacks?

4:30 what gets me about Mystique is that she can look like anyone, so age doesn't matter outwardly. Just with her organs.

Basically this film franchise is called the most confusing timeline of the X-men.

The reason x-24 can die by adamantium is because his claws are the only thing with adamantium.

@Bmhtsos18

Жыл бұрын

Wrong, when X-24 is shot his metal skull is clearly seen.

Aging They don't age because it's a recast. Not a problem, though I suppose Xavier could have had his aging slowed by Apocalypse and he started aging again by the late 2000s, when the Deadpool films take place based on the Year of the Dog reference, and stress and using his powers a lot accelerated his aging to how he looks 2023-2029. Sabertooth Read X-Men 2: Prequel. Sabertooth was experimented on by Striker and was mutated further, his memories becoming clustered. Xavier He used his powers to appear as if he could walk or, as stated in the film, Xavier uses too much of the serum to block his powers completely. Pahaps he takes low doses so that he can mildly use his abilities. Beast Beast is just surprised a mutant could do that. His was purely science. He actually appeared in X2: X-Men United as a regular human, so clearly he did use that serum still. Emma Frost Emma Silverfox is not Emma Frost. Different characters. This is confirmed canon. Moria Mictaggart So? They can still be the same character. Caliban So? They can still be the same character. Psylocke We don't know that's Psylocke. Sentinels Trask from The Last Stand isn't Bolivar Trask. He's black, for starters, and his full name was never revealed. The danger room just played a dystopian future scenario, not necessarily Sentinels, or they are but just a little evolved between 1973 and 2023. Deadpool Wade Wilson (Original Timeline) had his powers triggered in 1973, like in Deadpool, after Days of Future Past but before the Team X sequence. He's in his 20s. In Deadpool, he's in his 50s. Deadpool takes place 2006-2008 based on the Year of the Dog reference during the year long sex scene. Wolverine's claws You just explained it. Magneto did it. Cure The cure was temporary. They pushed it before they realised this. Xavier's body Yes, that's his twin. The reason his legs aren't working is because his powers are interlinked with his legs, like Days of Future Past, like a mental barrier that he accidentally created for himself. Adamantium Bullets That's in the movie itself. X-24 has to be given a serum to regenerate, especially if damaged too badly. Wolverine's memory Xavier restored as much as he could off-screen between X2: X-Men United and X-Men: The Last Stand. Mystique Mystique was found out and went on the run. The real Striker captured Wolverine. William Striker Recasts, dude. Not a problem. The reason they are different is because there is a significant age gap. Cerebro Magneto helped Xavier to build/upgrade the blue cerebro with Beast. Xavier/Eric Yes, they briefly met at 17. They didn't realise this in X-Men: First Class, though. Students Cyclops, Jean and Storm was Xavier's first students after he reopened the school. Remember, it was closed in Days of Future Past. In X-Men Origins: Wolverine, Cyclops was recruited in 1979. Magneto He did, the one in X-Men: First Class is an older model. Cyclops They are brothers. Cyclops was a teenager in 1979 and 1983. It's not set in the 1960s, dude. Nightcrawler We don't know who Nightcrawler's parents are in the film universe. Quicksilver He probably told Magneto after 1983, when X-Men: Apocalypse takes place. Mystique Not a continuity problem. Beast Not a continuity problem. Magneto's helmet Not a continuity problem. Xavier's hair Not a continuity problem. Xavier/Mystique They just don't talk about that. Probably just don't have a relationship anymore. Timeline flawed 1962 - X-Men: First Class 1979 - X-Men Origins: Wolverine 2004 - X-Men 2004 - X2: X-Men United 2006 - X-Men: The Last Stand 2013 - The Wolverine: Unleashed Extended Edition 2023-1973 - X-Men: Days of Future Past: The Rogue Cut 1983 - X-Men: Apocalypse 1992 - Dark Phoenix 2008 - Deadpool 2009 - Deadpool 2: Super Duper Cut 2017 - The New Mutants 2029 - Logan I... win?

@carybeweary7209

3 жыл бұрын

Some of these are reaches Like 2 X-Men movie characters named Emma having at least one of the powers thats the same as a character in the comics called Emma yet being two different characters? Seems pretty fishy

@zzzcocopepe

3 жыл бұрын

No because you are reaching all over the place to try and justify all kinds of issues

@zzzcocopepe

3 жыл бұрын

@@carybeweary7209 yeah like hello it's just lazy writers not paying attention, because they don't care and they're just doing it for the millions of dollars and not to tell a good story

@probot6515

3 жыл бұрын

@@carybeweary7209 And yet it's a retcon. That's just official. marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Emma_Silverfox_(Earth-10005) Look in notes. Maybe Emma had kids. It happened in the Marvel Cinematic Universe too, actually. Tina Minoru appeared in Doctor Strange and Runaways, which are in the same universe, yet she is a different character in both who just happen to share the same name and similar Staff. Remember Angel in both X-Men: The Last Stand and X-Men: Apocalypse? It's not even arguable that they're different characters.

@probot6515

3 жыл бұрын

@@zzzcocopepe Reaching? Well, what do you suggest to do when two pieces of information are given in the same universe? You put them together.

Your editing between 29:55 and 30:04 really tripped me out. I smoked some bud and thought I was tripping out. Love the videos. Keep it up! I've watched Apocalypse 3 times already! *Shows clip of movie with Chinese subtitles. Yup, he downloaded it lol

Thanks for the X-Men Video Vee! I really appreciate it

Thx 4 dropping a 40 min vid🙃

I never counted anything with X men Origins with the "main" movies 1-3 and FC, DOFP, And so on

Sabertooth can be explained that over the years he's gone feral

For no real significant reason, Nightcrawler was always my favorite of all the X-Men, always. I always hoped for a full length movie for him, as he’s got a fascinating story and personality. But part of me is happy we never got one, and doubt we ever will.

X3 is when it died.

How did they manage to fuck up the Phoenix Saga twice? It's easily one of the best comic book storylines ever. The animated series back in the 90's did leagues better than both of the live action films.

@PyroBlondie1

2 жыл бұрын

What's wrong with those sagas?

@bassman0704

2 жыл бұрын

@@PyroBlondie1 in the comics and animated series? Nothing they were great. The movies totally screwed it up.

5:33 I think that is how you could explain it actually, in my headcanon at least. So wolverine and saber tooth have kinda similar mutations. In the comics, at one point it’s revealed that wolverine’s adamantium coating constantly kept his healing factor busy and stopped his mutation from developing him into a much more animalistic creature, which we see after magneto rips the metal out of him. So maybe in the movies, the same thing is true of saber tooth, who didn’t have adamantium in the first place, and he’s de-evolved to what we see him as in X-men from where he was in wolverine: origins. Wolverine can’t remember because of his memory loss and saber tooth can’t remember because his mutation has made him more animalistic. Kind of tragic really. Edit: I now see someone else already explained this a year ago :/

I am new to your channel but love it already. Your views on most comic book movies are very astute and similar to my friends and myself. Awesome stuff! Nice to see a KZread channel with brains and common sense. Thank you! Keep on Truckin Brother!

Am i the only one who wants an X-Men movie with Mr.Sinister as the main villain?

7:41 To be fair, Deadpool 2 retconned the Deadpool character from X-Men Origins: Wolverine. 😂😂😂

@Thespeedrap

3 жыл бұрын

Deadpool saved Deadpool that is hilarious 😄

@jonathancampbell5231

3 жыл бұрын

AlsoJuggernaut makes an offhand comment about having a brother in a wheelchair.

@Yoseqlo1

3 жыл бұрын

And got rid of Green Lantern.

@Thespeedrap

3 жыл бұрын

@@Yoseqlo1 I like John Stewart better anyway.

I agree with Cyclops. They built him up a lot around Jean and when she died at the end of X2 they didn't leave themselves much room in TLS when Dark Phoenix came back as the main villain. I always felt that a way of keeping Cyclops in the film would have been to introduce Emma Frost. Let's face it the overall plot would have made more sense after Jean killed Professor X to have her face off against Emma rather than Wolverine.

Great video. I loved it!

what are your thoughts on the gifted?

@606danco

2 жыл бұрын

I like that show to bad there was only 2 seasons John proudstar was awesome

The problem with the first movies was they became the wolverine show. Wolverine is a popular character but X-Men is an ensemble and when you diminish everybody to feature him the team suffers The second run was derailed after a great first class movie. They set up something great but there very next movie they went back to the wolverine well. I heard great things about future past but after last stand I had my fill of the wolverine show.

That reverb on yo mic is amazing lol 😂

awesome video bro I really enjoyed it

My top 3 x men films 1. Logan 2. Deadpool 3. Deadpool 2

The title is “THE DAY X-MEN DIED” but he never specifies what day that was.

@brytonup1551

3 жыл бұрын

December 16th 1991

@monsterjambrony

3 жыл бұрын

@@brytonup1551 Oh thanks.

@TrippleBPlays

2 жыл бұрын

Probably the day Disney brought Fox.

The Dr. EVIL Insert legitly made me laugh harder than I have since Mar. 13, 2020. My day was a total mess and it turned the whole day around. Vin Fusso you are awesome!!

The weird moment when an XMen TV show that nobody knew was an XMen TV show, was better than most of the movies.(The Gifted)