What's your favorite Batman story? Least favorite?

@EdgardoSalas

6 жыл бұрын

Batman: Zero Year

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

I really like Zero Year!

@rustybuckets2143

6 жыл бұрын

Matt Draper My favorite Batman story is and will likely always be Long Halloween. My least favorite is Stan Lee's Batman.

@dandevrell

6 жыл бұрын

Grant Morrison's 6 year run on Batman is hands down the best! Requesting a video essay about it. Please and Thank You

@johnathonhaney8291

6 жыл бұрын

Tough one on most favorite...gotta go with Prey, Legends of the Dark Knight storyline by Doug Moench and Paul Gulacy. Least favorite, hands down, is DKIII, Miller's angry deathbed declaration on how he hates the world around him.

Such a great story that ended perfectly and never had any sequels ever.

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

I mean, why would anyone ever make a sequel to this story?

6 жыл бұрын

Devon Palmer : it's amazing to me nobody ever tried to cash in on the fame of this. But then I'm sure Miller would not have allowed it.

@frankegordon326

5 жыл бұрын

Why would you try to give a perfect end to a character a sequel. That would just be stupid

@MutantsInDisguise

5 жыл бұрын

This is why I think DKR's spirit was ruined by the sequels, and is, to me, far from being the best Batman story ever.

@elefanteguerreropsiquicoan8951

5 жыл бұрын

Why would they even make a 3rd one? That would completely destroy the spirit of the history, *right?*

Worth noting: Mark Millar has explicitly stated that Old Man Logan was very much inspired by this story. And I'd argue that its loose film adaptation Logan has many of the same themes and methodologies running through it.

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

Definitely. I think they are highly interlinked in both the comics and movie version.

4:29 - "This should be agony. I should be a mass of aching muscle, broken, spent, unable to move. And where I'm an older man, where I surely would be...But I'm a man of thirty of twenty again. The rain on my chest is a baptism -- I'm born again." - Bruce Wayne

@franciscs1604

Жыл бұрын

👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

Batman: All the people I've murdered by letting you live. Joker: I don't keep track. But you do. And I love you for it.

@teenamazingsquad.2042

3 жыл бұрын

Beautiful lines

To me, this is thematically the “last” Batman story. I know there’s sequels but this is basically the end for the character. Also the first issue in particular is one of the best written comics I’ve ever read. Especially the bit about Bruce trying to “fight back” the Batman persona inside him and him breaking free and returning. And that first montage of Batman returning and stopping crime. Great stuff.

@SuperSilver316

Ай бұрын

I’m not finished yet. And you’re not finished with me. You’re never finished with me.

As the Joker once said: "There's nothing mere about that mortal."

Before there was Dark Knight Returns, Daredevil Born Again, and Watchmen. There was Batman by Dennis O'Neil, Green Lantern/Green Arrow by Dennis O'Neil, and Swamp Thing by Len Wein. These stories may be influences to the 1980's post Bronze Age era of comics.

Then Frank Miller got possessed by Parallax and lost his mind

@jrhSTYLE

2 жыл бұрын

Nah he's been ass. It just slowly got more exposed

@brian.jrmontoya3227

2 жыл бұрын

@@jrhSTYLE lol nah. He was a good writer, let’s not kid ourselves.

@GiantAndShaman

Ай бұрын

@@jrhSTYLE Now thats a crock of shit if i ever read one.

"The time has come." "You know it on your soul." "You try to drown me out." "But your voice is weak."

I love how little sequels this series has.

Matt Drapper is back! Now THIS is proof legends never die

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

Hahaha Love it

@captainjakemerica4579

6 жыл бұрын

He never left Matt has always been amazing!!!

Love your analysis. You are one of the few people that truly understands this terrfic tale of Batman. I hate when people think of TDKR, the only thing they say is: Batman returns, Batman kicks Superman's butt, and Batman is better than Superman and would always win against Supes. People don't seem to understand the real context and stakes of the Bats and Supes fight. They just focus on the kicking and punching side of the fight, even ignoring the fact Batman was always assisted during the confrontation. The same error Zack Syder made for BvS, just adapting the fight just because it looks cool.

Let me just say that your channel is EXACTLY what I’ve been looking for. A channel that analyzes story and art of comics is something I’ve wanted since I started reading not too long ago. You have some quality content and if you keep it up I know for certain you’ll get a bigger fan base. Keep up the great fucking work.

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! I hope my videos can be a nice accompaniment to your reading.

When I read this as a kid in the late 80's, i remember thinking the Clint Eastwood would be a good choice to play Batman if they ever did a live action movie. For what it's worth, I quite liked Richard E Grant as the joker too. I miss my copy - 'borrowed' by a mate 25 years ago and never seen again.

Really love the aesthetic on this channel tbh

This satirical version of Batman is regarded as an older, bitter and darker interpretation of the character who, after 10 years of retirement, resumes his role as a vigilante and, eventually, a revolutionary freedom fighter from the Gotham City Police force and the United States government.

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

I think Batman's increasing pivot against the government here is pretty interesting and fairly extreme for the character. Great observation!

@AldenRDavis

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Matt!

Yeah. I was expecting a new video from this channel. And it's about one of the greatest comics ever made. Fantastic.

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoy it!

As I said on Matt"s Batman: Year One video, this comic made me a fan of the character for life!

i love the musical aesthetic of your content. i love The Midnight song you used in this, it made me so happy. great content as always

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I try to pick something that enhances the feel of the video and put a lot of effort into it, so I appreciate you noticing!

Matt, you never fail to impress. You made me want to go back and read this comic again.

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Let me know what you think when you reread it.

You almost convinced me that TDKR is better than year one lol. Perfect video man, yours and Grant Morrison's view of this comic are the best ones I've seen. I loved your attempt to connect it with Year One (I also made exercises to connect both as well) and you came out with the best conclusions out of it. And the legend of Batman is in fact eternal, thanks for spreading the message, I personally was morally influenced by Batman. I also think that the attempt to make Batman a metaphysical presence in Gotham, a myth/legend, was a highlight of the Arc and it's great that other writters continued this idea (such as Greg Rucka at No Man's Land and Morrison in RIP). Either way keep up the godlike work!

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! I personally like Year One more than TDKR, but I find both fascinating.

@ta5777

4 жыл бұрын

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Definitely The Dark Knight Returns. Then the Long Halloween. Actually really like the Batman vs Predator too, great story. Nice video, keep up the great work.

@radentruman7535

4 жыл бұрын

Isn’t Batman vs Predator out of print?

I feel like this is the only Batman comic Zack Snyder ever read, and decided to base Batman's entire character on this version, despite the fact that this is supposed to be a more brutal version of him

@Strato_Casterrr9898

3 жыл бұрын

That was exactlt what zack was going for. He wanted his Batman to be one of the most Brutal version of him, which was to show that his Batman had fallen from grace long ago. Alfred even mentions it that they are no longer heroes, but criminals. Also, Zack is a huge comic book nerd, he has like the biggest comic collection in hollywood, as far as directors go at least. People just need to understand that his Batman is meant to be so far off from what Batman usuaully is. But I guess his mistake here was making Batman like that without showing people how he became like that. He should have made a prequel Batman movie

@franciscs1604

Жыл бұрын

@@Strato_Casterrr9898 Yes. We need a prequel.

@Strato_Casterrr9898

Жыл бұрын

@@franciscs1604 agree

@lewisaino

10 ай бұрын

​@@Strato_Casterrr9898Is the most logical transition

@The_Based_Batman

5 ай бұрын

​@@Strato_Casterrr9898I never minded it. I could piece together Batman's story and history. Show, don't tell. He did show a more hopeful batman in ZSJL though. Unfortunately WB is the villain in this situation and it all stands as a "What if" scenario.

Always look forward to seeing your amazing analysis of these iconic stories, great video!

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I appreciate it!

Another fantastic vid bro...One of my favorite KZreadrs. Always so melancholy.

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I thought at the beginning he was gonna say “Batman: he is both man and bat”

Another job well done👏🏼👏🏼

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you thank you!

Amazing story and great video. The music u put over it is just perfect with the dark knight returns being based on the 80s after all

Dude your channel is awesome

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

Great video article and analysis of my all time favorite character and graphic novel.

Incredible summary!!!

The dark knight returns part 1 and 2 is such great movies and nice video man :]

Great video, I enjoyed how you explain the book's structure

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Literally my only complaint about the story is the art style but other than that, this is definitely one of Millers very best and one of the most important and greatest batman stories ever and just comics in general

Great video as always, Matt! And my favorite Batman story has to be Hush.

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Hush is lots of fun.

I love the art here

Where has this channel been all this time? Damn son. Subscribed.

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard!

Amazing video!

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you thank you!

This film blew me away.

AWESOME.

YES NEW VIDEO OMG HYPE

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

Enjoy!

Downloaded the Duology so thanks for the content.

classic comics

I've just discovered your videos and wow what a great analysis. Keep up the great work and you've got a subscriber. Would you be able to do one on Under the Hood?

I just read it a week ago omg I can see why it’s a classic loved it absolutely loved it

Never was a fan of the Batman until I've read "The Dark Knight Returns." Thank you Frank Miller

This story is amazing! But it also came with a big cost in the way the public views Superman because for many it is one of the first stories they read. Its really meta that the Dark Knight Returns was about the rise of man over the Superman, both in context and in the real world because of its influence.

I much prefer Year One, I find the story is tighter and the art is much better. But damn it, The Dark Knight Returns is still damn good, issues and all.

After watching like 7 videos in a row I guess I'll subscribe.

My 5th time rewatching this. My first time watching having read the comic :)

This channel is everything ❤

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

You're too kind!

Fantastic video Matt. I've loved all your work on this channel. This really is a timeless treasure. However, I'd like to bring up my dissatisfaction with the DC animated adaptation. It felt like a very poor, low budget, botched adaptation of Frank Miller's 80s masterpiece. Out of the voice cast, the only ones I think they got right are Michael Emerson as the Joker and Ariel Winter as Carrie Kelly. Those two really nailed it. Peter Weller's voice is so flat and smooth and monotone that he just sounds like... well, like a robot. He doesn't sound like an old Batman, who I figure would be more rumble-y and coarse. Gordon's voice actor was also a wrong choice, because I felt he sounded like someone's elderly grandmother. It was oddly high pitched and feminine. Just didn't sound right. Right from the get-go, I could tell that the production was off. The opening scene of Bruce racing the Neumann 500 looked like it was out of a damn video game. The CGI race cars just looked so cheap and primitive and awful, it was insane. You could tell that they just did not have a budget to pull it off. Came out looking horrible. Again, like I said before, Peter Weller's Batman voice just doesn't sound good at all. It's even and flat and you don't get much emotion out of it. Old Batman shouldn't sound like RoboCop. There's odd stylistic choices that just don't jibe with what I know of the story. For example, in this adaptation, Martha Wayne looks like a blonde bimbo trophy wife for some reason? That made no sense to me and just felt distracting. It was certainly not that way in the Miller comic. You get lots of scenes that are directly lifted from the comic, but they're delivered shoddily and lose so much of the impact that they had in the comic. For example, the weatherman delivers the line "Like the wrath of God, about to hit Gotham..." in a disengaged, casual tone. There's nothing real or revealing behind that delivery. On the other hand, in the actual comic panel, the weatherman utters the line "Like the wrath of God it's headed for Gotham..." with this solemn worried expression on his face, as if he can feel the very thunder in the angry night announcing his presence. Indelible moments and lines from the graphic novel are inexplicably toned down and lose their original intensity. When Batman goes after the robbers after their car crashes into the construction site, he turns to the cops and loudly declares "THESE MEN ARE MINE!" in a big booming voice. In the comic, at least. In the animated movie, Peter Weller states "These men are mine" in a flat and almost bored delivery. It just loses all of its punch and power. Disappointing. When Batman and Two Face crash through the side of the skyscraper, there's a wonderful shot in the comic of lightning lighting up the darkness of the room. Yet in the film, this is completely removed and we're left with regular dark lighting. Just one more example of how shoddy and low budget this project was. The ending of the whole scene was also changed. In the original, Batman embraces Harvey in an emotional moment. In the movie, this is changed into Batman just standing there awkwardly. There's no reason for it and it hurts the resolution of the scene. I don't like it. The scene where Batman glides down onto the television studio and has to take on Yindel and the GCPD is a great example of how they completely botched the execution and created something ridiculous and stupid instead. In the comic, Batman glides down and immediately takes cover behind a wall and throws out his smoke pellets, completely obscuring the entire rooftop in a haze and enabling him to move out and take out the police through concealment. In the animated movie, this doesn't happen and he just runs around in full view of the police riflemen, casually knocking them out one by one while they all have clear shots and lots of time to shoot him dead, but somehow don't. It's completely unbelievable and loses all sense of reality. Instead of marveling at Batman's ingenuity and tactics, we're just astounded by the GCPD's stormtrooper-esque marksmanship skills. It's a laughingstock of a scene and completely took me out of the movie. And of course, who can forget that one moment in the hall of mirrors, when Batman saves the little boy from the Joker and then grimly admonishes him "Watch your language, son." Such a good moment! But alas, it's completely dropped from the movie.

A Matt Draper video about Batman that was posted on my birthday (13th)? Aw, yes. Great video. P.S. have you read Gerry Duggan’s Deadpool run?

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

Happy birthday! I've read the first volume of Duggan's run, up until Secret Wars, but nothing after that. I quite enjoy it and think The Good, The Bad and The Ugly will make for an interesting video topic in particular.

Good stuff here

Matt this is fucking amazing

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

GOOSEBUMPS!!!!!!

Hey Matt whats the name of the song you put at the end of all your videos?

This, Long Halloween and Batman ‘89 basically set the template for Batman in modern pop culture

Where can I get that portrait of Batman looking over the mutant leader? Who drew that? It looks stunning!

Awesome video discussion & analysis as ever Matt! 😁 keep up the stellar work as ever.

@MattDraper

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I love how batman is almost like an alternate personality within him

Hey Matt, great video here! I just want to ask, when it comes to a story of batman in the future, which story do you prefer more; Batman: The Dark Knight Returns comic or Batman Beyond animated series? 🤔

DKR and year one are incredible, and ronin... damn, that plot twist at the end really got me. I really should get to reading sin city... Also, I seem to remember that batman was not trying to beat superman, he was buying time with the help of green arrow for some reason. Maybe a re-read should be in order. Damn it, so much to read and so little time...

never change your microphone it makes you sound cool!

2:19 Amen.

Would love to see you analyze Batman RIP

C’mon man, it’s 11pm and I have finals tomorrow, still gonna watch it

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

Time waits for no man.

I did not think Batman not looking old in the first issue then getting wrinkles in the last 2 issues was unintentional. The story is mostly told from Batmans perspective. He felt rejuvenated when Bruce was motivated to become Batman again. Then Bruce quickly felt the years catch up to him since he was still an old man.

Quick question Matt. What do you think is better: Snyders Batman or the Sandman Run by Gaiman? I'm asking cause anything you do a spotlight on is fantastic so I really value your opinion!

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

I'd go with Gaiman's Sandman. Definitely an iconic run. I feel honored by you asking for my input!

The art that Miller drew with clause Jans and Lynn Varley is missed

The 2012 animated movie was awesome with a great soundtrack by Christopher Drake.

Great job on this dystopic but hopeful future of Batman. Could you maybe do Batman Beyond? I think it would be another interesting potential future of Batman to analyze.

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'd like to cover Batman Beyond at some point.

@batlagoon91

6 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to it. Also wanted to say that your videos are all amazing and thank you for making this channel. Your Mark Waid's Daredevil video actually inspired me to try to be nicer to myself after my self-loathing got out of hand and caused me problems. Beyond that, you know a ton about comics and seem to be a pretty smart guy. Thanks again!

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

That's wonderful to hear! I try to speak positive truths into people's lives through my videos, so I'm glad I could make a difference. Keep it up!

10:12 I read/heard something interesting about Jokers last lines describing his predicament. The speech balloons are grey, just like Batman’s. Joker didn’t say those things, that was Bats way of justifying what he finally did, kill the Joker. Anyway, I thought it was interesting

I feel like I'm watching daytime pbs

Batman: The Cult is my favorite

Favorite Batman comi.. NO! favorite comic of all time!

DKiii kicks ass. Dont let the failures of dk2 keep you from experiencing greatness. It deserves much more.

@kostajovanovic3711

4 жыл бұрын

Doubt

The Dark Knight Returns duology of movies are great, but the second movie has the Okami problem of it clearly ending 3 times.

Which chapter you like the most?

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

Probably chapter 2 - The Dark Knight Triumphant

Everything you said is correct except the fact that batman actualy kills the joker and the dialog that happens after he snaps his neck is all in batmans head, hense the grey text when joker talks

Year one hundred is great

As much as All-Star Batman & Robin is hated, I do in fact like Miller’s “The Last Crusade”

The Master Race is actually sick though.

Can you do the dark phoenix saga next

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

It won't be next, but I will definitely cover it at some point.

Ah Devon ,no sequels ever?Remember Dark Knight Strikes Again?No? Don't blame you.Nuff Said!!

Great analysis! Although I'd argue that Dark Knight Strikes Again is highly underrated. I think people were expecting a more straight forward sequel instead of the zany romp that we got. I don't think it's a bad comic. All Star Batman is of course shockingly awful.

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I think DKSA is really interesting, but very messy. That's around the time when I stopped reading Miller's comics.

now time for DK2

Alan Moore loved this story.

One of THE best books ever not just one of the best comic book imo. What’s your opinion of the animated version?

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

I like it. Very faithful and I like the voice casting, but I could have used some voiceover.

2:12 That Frank Miller quote hit me a little too close to home 😟

I get really excited for your videos. Could you bone.

Good job, so you’ve done year one, TDKR is TDKR 2 next?

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! No plans at the moment, but never say never.

@emotea9485

6 жыл бұрын

Matt Draper I pity you if you do

@MattDraper

6 жыл бұрын

I will, too.

Despite the questionable quality of frank Miller's work today I do respect and appreciate his work for both this and year one. The Dark Knight returns had a really unique noir style that captures the dark world of Gotham and Batman as a character, while it does have its flaws its no doubt a classic by how captivating the story of Batman returning to a world that has changed, although I just ignore the bad prequel and sequel of this as it is a complete story.

It's the best Batman story with the best Batman and the best Robin.

Great work. I just wanted to note that, if Miller's fascist Bruce Wayne is much more obvious in DK2 and later works, there are still a few elements here that can let you see he already was on the same path in TDKR. The way Miller depicts the government employees and institutions, and how his Batman imposes from his own will some kind of totalitarian police force, are pretty reactionary ideas. That's also why I don't think he could ever write a good Superman story, Kal-El's too much on the left for Miller to be able to understand him.

Dude really called Heracles the Roman version after mentioning the ancient greeks a few minutes earlier

Small correction, Herakles was Greek and Hercules was Roman

I do like DK3's ending

Hey dark knight 3 was cool.