Cursed Clash didn't set a record for the most refunds, some guy on tiktok said that and everyone spread it around I believe

@SozioTheRogue

Ай бұрын

Welp, now everyone thinks it's true, so according to most, it's the most refunded. Sadly that's how truths/myths come about.

@satire_jin4397

Ай бұрын

I wouldn’t believe it’s not like I mean that game is fucking horrible

@Fluminox-

Ай бұрын

No surprise people believed it

@m.a.k.dynasty4504

Ай бұрын

I swear, this guy almost never fact checks some of the stuff he says and just goes off of word of mouth.

@TeamTowers1

Ай бұрын

@@m.a.k.dynasty4504 I mean dude is coming from a bias perspective, dude doesn't bring up why some people like these games, despite it being pretty obvious, it's because they are looking for a toybox to smash their action figures together.

Here is my thing. Arena fighters can be amazing. The problem I have is that ALL of these games are rushed, made on a shoestring budget and have terrible design decisions.

@warmice4136

Ай бұрын

That’s part of why I’m so excited for sparking zero. It’s been in development for 5 years, the devs are listening to our input, it’s a genuine sequel, and the devs really care about their work. It’s gonna be gas 🔥🔥

@jarrodeaston6373

Ай бұрын

@warmice4136 For me, I'm keeping my expectations low. Look I wanna be excited as you, but after so many crappy arena fighters, I can't trust it. But I do hope it ends up good. I don't want it to suck.

@TeamTowers1

Ай бұрын

@@jarrodeaston6373 Eh pretty much has most the things that actually make a good arena fighter, a large roster featuring even the obscure characters from the source material, actually large interesting looking and destructible environments and very nice looking visuals on everything. They just need to make punching the other guy through a building feel satisfying and they're golden. The thing is people don't nor have they ever played arena fighters for a deep competitive games. They play them because they just want a toy box to smash their action figures together. And don't get me wrong a lot of anime arena fighters don't succeed in what I described, but I think when they do succeed the people who complain about that kind of game don't understand why.

@ellingtonf1097

Ай бұрын

​@@jarrodeaston6373I trust S0 wholeheartedly. Many yters said it plays just like bt3, like, they literally on instinct did combos from bt3, and the game just, let them.

@lan-kun-officialchannel8285

29 күн бұрын

Gundam Extreme Versus is a good anime arena fighter!

U didnt give storm 4 and dbzbt3 enough credit. Ppl still love arena fighters, they just dont like being scammed.

@brandonsupreme8380

29 күн бұрын

Factsss

@Takashii85

18 күн бұрын

Those games are quality. Not trash ass shit like my hero, opm, jjk etc

@kenonerboy

18 күн бұрын

@Takashii85 my hero, seems to have some complexity, so i wouldnt lump it in with the rest, but def not storm4 or bt3 lvl

@Takashii85

18 күн бұрын

@@kenonerboy technically speaking, by all accounts most of them have some hidden gems in there, but the overall exceution of them are bad and my hero is no exception to that

@kenonerboy

18 күн бұрын

@Takashii85 i wouldnt say so. The opm game lacked pretty much everything. Mha doesnt feel nearly as bad as those mentioned. Its just not god level like bt3 and storm4

I feel like arena fighters can be fun because it's a 3D fight where you can run around anywhere which can fit the style depending on the Anime. If they do make good controls and gameplay then we probably wouldn't have this problem

@VongolaXanxus

Ай бұрын

True...i just wish they would at least have decent netcode like One's Justice, and some crossplay wouldn't hurt either.

@time2play961

29 күн бұрын

yeah but they can't really make the maps big to roam around because it'll annoy the ones who want to fight

@hunterculpepper1973

29 күн бұрын

Killlakill if did that perfectly it's just when you're content is a story mode which 4 characters 2 vartions and hear that 2 story mode only bosses were cut from the singular player mode and2 lerfculty fuctial characters in senketsu kisargi and nui fibers arms along with boss ragyo shinera koukets which in itself is kinda just a completely different character than ragyo being a set play trap type character and fiber arms nui is the duel wield ryuko variant of nui it's needed and senketsu kisargi wouldn't be used competive wise but for fun of course they used it

@diamonshade7484

28 күн бұрын

​@@hunterculpepper1973wrong ip for time unfortunately

@diamonshade7484

28 күн бұрын

​@hunterculpepper1973 hope a some studios take note of the gameplay since it builds off the storm system

Kill La Kill If is such a tradgedy. What a great game with so much potential. I hope to see a game like it in the future.

@RevengerPhoenix

16 күн бұрын

KLK is my favorite arena fighter of all time. It’s proof that arena fighters CAN be awesome. I hope the devs make another one with a bigger franchise someday.

@PikaPower131313

10 күн бұрын

@@RevengerPhoenix it was a big franchise… in 2014. Devs missed a huge opportunity being 5 years late to the hype train.

@amirgarcia547

11 сағат бұрын

It just sucks that we got a Kill La Kill arena fighter to begin with when the series has such a small roster, instead of an MGR-style action game developed by PlatinumGames.

One's Justice 2 is the best example of a development team taking criticism and feedback seriously and creating a better product for it. All its really missing is a sizeable budget, doesn't matter how good your development team is, they'll only be able to do so much with what they are given and they are definitely not getting the same love and budget DBZ and Naruto typically get.

@Jo-dp5go

12 күн бұрын

Because those two IP’s are miles more popular and thus, deserve more love

@danielbarnes1241

3 күн бұрын

​@@Jo-dp5go they don't deserve more. They're just so old they get it by default.

@Jo-dp5go

2 күн бұрын

@@danielbarnes1241 They deserve more BECAUSE they’re so old and yet they’re house hold names, when you’ve got 3 generations of a family holding up Dragonball signs, you know you’re elite, same with Naruto and to a smaller extent One Piece. Don’t look at it like an entitled westerner looking for another run of the mill anime game, but instead like a global market, what’re franchises like Demon Slayer, JJK, OPM, MHA, HxH, or 95% of shounen doing right now? The phrase “what have you done for me lately” is never more true than in anime.

DBZ BT3, Kill la Kill IF, Demon Slayer Hinokami, J-Stars, Kamen Rider Kabuto PS2, Gundam Extreme Versus, Dissidia, Urban Reign are my favorites. DBZ Sparking Zero is gonna be great no doubt

@vento5558

Ай бұрын

As well as Shrek Super Slam and TMNT Mutant Melee

@douglasmcnay644

Ай бұрын

Dude, thank you for remembering Urban Reign. That game has so much potential and I wish they would have developed it further.

@gjergjaurelius9798

Ай бұрын

Urban reign? That's more of a traditional beat em up. The one on one fights and the multiplayer though makes sense.

@fashilram7313

Ай бұрын

Gundam extreme versus is genuinely a good game that everyone should try orb watch once

@TRASHSPLASHX

Ай бұрын

@vento5558shrek

I will never forget seeing people actively defend Cursed Clash when it was incredibly obvious the game was looking rough

@VaasharP

27 күн бұрын

People still defend it

@saidbrizzo2187

23 күн бұрын

I mean they defend the good aspects of the game not all the game Bro if you ask them they will say the errors of the game and the fact that is overpriced

@VaasharP

23 күн бұрын

@saidbrizzo2187 ive heard people say it's better than every Naruto Storm game which is seriously wrong. Like Naruto Storm 2s story alone makes me want it over Cursed Clash

@saidbrizzo2187

23 күн бұрын

@@VaasharP For real men? Well There is a lot kind of people i guess

@TyTheNerfGuy

16 күн бұрын

A mid anime deserves a mid game

Consumers are not tired of Arena fighters, consumers are tired of bad games

@TreeckoDX64

15 күн бұрын

Especially bad arena fighters

@ricogt7092

12 күн бұрын

I'm tired of arena fighters that is why I play games like persona

While I would agree that most anime arena fighters aren't good, I do understand the appeal of them. People aren't looking for a deep competitive games withe them, they are looking for a toybox to smash their action figures together. And I think it's pretty obvious that's what the appeal is. So I don't get why so many people don't understand that.

@EskChan19

29 күн бұрын

This exactly. People love Budokai Tenkaichi 3 because they'd put up SSJ4 Goku against SSJ2 Teen Gohan, beam struggle, punch each other through mountains, and just enjoy the spectacle of their favorite characters durking it out. And FighterZ has much less mass appeal because it's a sweaty competitive E-Sport that you need to practice before you can have fun with it. And even then, it feels like Street Fighter, not like Dragonball. It's mechanically deep, yes, it's visually rather pretty yes, but if you switched out the sprites for sprites from another franchise, nobody would even know that this is a Dragonball game. If you switch out the characters in Budokai Tenkaichi 3 you'd say "Man, they should make a Dragonball game just like this"

@gibleyman

25 күн бұрын

The main issue with arena fighters within the modern market (aside from the obvious "they're rushed asf") is that their one selling point of "easy to pick for any fan" is also a recipe for an extremely short life span. The game with a lack of depth gets boring quickly. And there's only so much a pretty animation for an ult can do. Arena fighters haven't truly evolved since it's popularity two decades ago, at least compared to other genres like 2D fighting games. Right now what the genre needs is one game that's actually big budget and has thought and talent put into it. (*nudge nudge* do your thing Sparking Zero pls). Because at this rate, we might as well revert to low budget Street fighter knock offs but with the skin of whatever IP it's for.

@TeamTowers1

25 күн бұрын

@@gibleyman I would disagree with that statement. To problem with most arena fighters is that they don't take full advantage of the genre. BT3 is often considered the gold standard because the hidden depth of the game aside, the basics of being able to fly around, blow each other up from the other end of the map and smash each other through buildings and other bits of scenery. That stuff never really got old and even outside of the competitive scene. Sparking Zero will not be a well balanced game (the devs have already admitted that the stronger characters lore wise will be stronger in game play). Nor will it probably be all that deep. What it will do is give the players the ability to recreate the scale of the battles in the source material. And that is what a lot of the other arena fighters lack.

@uchihabomber1296

18 күн бұрын

I completely agree I don't need something that deep at all I'm playing just for the fun of it man

@saloz9483

18 күн бұрын

Thank you for getting it. I play arena fighters just to feel like im playing the source with my favorite characters. I know dam well it wont be as deep as a 2-d fighter but I know it can be still fun.

Say what you will I think J stars better than jump force and actually like the game a lot honestly

@iluvslaughter

Ай бұрын

Nah man j stars is quite literally the definition of clunky jump force is at the very least very responsive and can be fun sometimes if you’re good and the person you’re fighting isnt cheesing

@asurahono4688

Ай бұрын

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@Kdawg4859

Ай бұрын

​@@iluvslaughterJF might be smoother to play but ih has even less depth than J stars. Jstars wins this ez

@iluvslaughter

Ай бұрын

@@Kdawg4859 Nah man thats just nostalgia i can tell you haven’t played j stars in forever by that opinion. Depth doesn’t matter if the game isn’t fun. To have all that “depth” and play like absolute shit really isn’t saying anything.Like j stars is literally not fun in the slightest bit combat is too clunky and slow. Everyone may kinda fight the same in jump force but atleast the combat is RESPONSIVE and has some type of flow. J stars is the definition of a mess and you’ll more often than not get pissed off at the mechanics more than anything else

@joshuasimpson364

Ай бұрын

@@iluvslaughter don’t matter to me I found j stars more entertaining with the jank than jump force also has a better roster i literally plat j stars so i really do like that game over jump force and I also want ti add it comes down to what you like out the two games some People like the jank clunky stuff also you can do a lot in stars that you can’t in jump force and do a lot more wild shit if you really get down to it and every character has there gimmick in that game unlike jump force as you put it felt samey

I think you're half right about why they make so many 3d arena fighters, but some other reasons are theyre easy to get into without becoming "good", yes they're cheap but they also tend to be more casual oriented so more people who maybe dont game that often can get into them pretty easy if theyre just into the IP, the other is because you can capture the feeling of the show more easily (ala storm and tenkaichi series really feel like they belong in those franchises)

@EskChan19

29 күн бұрын

Yeah, this is what people often don't understand. The appeal of arenma and party fighters (like Smash Bros) is that you can pick them up and play. The casual Dragonball fan doesn't want to have to spend 10 hours a day every day for 2 months practicing combos and input timing in FighterZ before the game gets fun. He wants the game to be fun from the get go. Arena Fighters do that. You can give someone the controler, explain the controls, and two or three rounds in, they will be having fun. Two or three rounds in FighterZ you won't even know what most of the buttons do yet.

@Nerwrax15

29 күн бұрын

​@@EskChan19that AND beginning players will be subjected to at best other players who understand the deeper mechanics better and at worst hardcore sweats who will do touch of death combos that will erase their character before they understand what even happened lol.

@JShocks7

10 күн бұрын

​@EskChan19 that just sounds like a skill issue lol. Because regardless of all that, FighterZ is still one of the best selling DBZ games ever and it's skill ceiling didn't hold it back

@Dan-qb9xk

4 күн бұрын

​@JShocks7 no one said it was being held back, simply has a different audience in mind

@danielbarnes1241

3 күн бұрын

​@@EskChan19 that's not an excuse for every damn game to get the same braindead garbo over and over. If people got both that and games with depth no one would complain.

Bandai Namco has become Krabby the Clown

@dillonmalbrue4179

Ай бұрын

More like Cheapy the Cheapskate

@leomichell2757

14 күн бұрын

Bandai doesn’t really make the game they just have the license and let the rest of the other companies do the work like what they did to the soul like games

The reason why Tenkaichi 2&3 is loved is because there were depths to the gameplay.

Sparking ZERO looks at least like it’ll be good. I hope the lesson that Bandai will take from it is that by giving a game a lot of time and allowing the devs to put lots of work into it, you can make a successful game

People aren't tired of arena fighters the people that never liked them are just loud....The problem is they don't give these games a budget to be a good arena fighter.

@leomichell2757

14 күн бұрын

Well it’s also because it’s hard to make because making video games is complex and not simple

Japanese and now U.S competitive player here. METEOR / t3 is actually extremely deep and complicated. The mechanics seen to be blatantly Ignored by critics and casual players. The western player base found the complexities rather late. with Italy player Paige and co. being the forefront of finding tech too! I hope some people will experience this in ZERO as the manager, has confirmed that it wont be a casual title.

@Deathsyth-ks8uz

Ай бұрын

Everyone knows Tenkaichi 3 is deep, why do you think people wanted it back?

@realtec4632

Ай бұрын

@@Deathsyth-ks8uz maybe... but most of what I saw from people was very average. im not too sure about how many NA players actually new what they were doing in particular.

@TheReZisTLust

29 күн бұрын

​@@Deathsyth-ks8uzpeople want it back cause it's just a fun dbz game series from their childhood. Not cause its deep lol

At this point, M.U.G.E.N. anime games don't seem that bad

@tsuyuukikurenai

27 күн бұрын

Yeh the only problem is most of mugen char would either recolor Mr Donald or recolor touhou char / I dont court kof char cause their r the base for mugen community

@jeremyhall2727

17 күн бұрын

It depends on who made it & did they re-balanced the characters they got from other people. Some Mugen games are really great. And others are just horrible. I love Mugen too death. Even the horrible ones have some charm. As long as you understand 🤷🏾‍♀️ this character is a bloody God. His broken as all hell. If he hits you five times .. you're dead 😂

@thethingoid

11 күн бұрын

​@@jeremyhall2727Thank goodness it's easy to modify character health and damage in Mugen.

@jeremyhall2727

6 күн бұрын

@@thethingoid no joke about that.. I try my best to see how far i can get. But long and behold, this random character just destroyed me in three punches 😅

One thing to add about Jump Force is the amount of manga spoilers for many characters (mostly Bleach)

@YR20

Ай бұрын

Well to be honest they had to, even it wasn't still animated they best to be up to date otherwise people would also complain about it.

@bmackley9805

Ай бұрын

Tbh, if it weren’t for seeing the spoilers about Jotaro and Dio’s abilities, I never would have watched jojos bizarre adventure

@DragoonCenten

Ай бұрын

Sounds like your problem, shoulda caught up, the material is there. If you choose not to be up to date, it is your responsibility to avoid spoilers.

@Oiinchi

Ай бұрын

Because it's a Jump Game so audience is expected to be Japan more than Overseas, in Japan it's always about Manga, J Stars Victory VS had Saiki which was character that didn't have anime at that time yet, and Jump Game on DS was using manga panels, so it's not really something new

@phromkatv

Ай бұрын

1)The simple fact that Goku can be a Super Saiyan is itself a spoiler. 2) It's your problem. It's a game about ALL (the majority) of Shonen Jump characthers, what did you except? Kid Goku from the first chapter vs Ichigo when he was still alive?

People often expect traditional fighting games when a beloved IP announces a new title. Yet, it's crucial to understand that the focus is not on the consumer, but on revenue generation. Fighting games don't achieve the mainstream status of franchises like Call of Duty, Overwatch, Rainbow Six, or even Pokemon, primarily due to player retention issues. The fighting game community (FGC) sees a decline in players over time, either from boredom or the daunting challenge of competing against professionals. Consequently, developers may opt for arena fighters, which are presumably simpler to create, require varying levels of effort, and leverage brand recognition to ensure sales. The choice then becomes: produce a complex game that may lose players and revenue over time, or develop a cost-effective, basic game loaded with well-known characters that could sell millions at launch due to instant character recognition.

@TeamTowers1

Ай бұрын

I think their simpler nature does make arena fighters a lot more appealing for the casuals, than some people realize. Especially compared to the wall that is traditional fighting games, that lets be real, are pretty much unplayable to anyone who isn't already good at fighting games. To that end for casual who's just looking for a nice simple smashy smashy game, where they can recreate their favorite moments, or act out the fanficiton in their heads, arena fighters do scratch that itch. In my opinion the measure of an anime arena fighter isn't weather it's a deep or balanced game, but how effectively it serves as a toybox for the player to smash their action figures together. I don't necessarily think all or even most anime arena succeed in this regard either. But I do think Budokai Tenkaichi 3 is so fondly remembered because it was pretty much the perfect DBZ toybox.

@nikoprower32

Ай бұрын

@TeamTowers1 exactly! That's why Sparking Zero is gonna be lit!

@ubermaster1

29 күн бұрын

Agreed, I fucking love traditional fighters, and ArcSys fighters, and nowadays people want ArcSys to make every anime fighter cause well, you cant deny, they are the kings of it. But everyone always forgets that DBFZ was the outlier cause well, it's goddamn Dragonball, you can quite literally slap Goku onto a food truck and people will flock to it, not even a joke. Outside of Dragonball, ArcSys fighters always end up becoming niche and sometimes considered inaccessible to new players due to their games usually having really high skill ceilings. As much as I despise Anime Arena fighters, they are very easy to pick up, easier to master than other fighters, and are very easy to develop. It's depressingly an easy way to rake in cash.

@nikoprower32

29 күн бұрын

@@ubermaster1 I agree.

It's a crime gundam exvs mbon wasn't talked about here

@lepapanouwel4663

Ай бұрын

In a good way?

@zudahkai94

Ай бұрын

Its because gundam vs is good

@tedjomuljono3052

Ай бұрын

the fact that they say "Byking is a new name" during the BNHA part kinda shows how lacking the research he did when it comes to anime arena fighters

@diamonshade7484

28 күн бұрын

​@@tedjomuljono3052gunslinger Stratos?

@tedjomuljono3052

28 күн бұрын

@@diamonshade7484 the Gundam VS series(and DBZ Zenkai Battle), Stratos isn't exactly an anime game, since it isn't based on a particular IP

Saint Seiya: Soldier's Soul is still one of my fav arena fighters along with DBZ BT3, J-Stars Victory and Gundam Extreme VS Maxiboost On.

Another thing I wonder is why so many anime games just retell the story of the anime/manga instead of telling a new original story. If they're afraid that an original story will muck up the continuity, they can just say that the games story is non-canon.

@drewschruefer2855

17 күн бұрын

Xenoverse,breakers,that mmo db game, and I think jump force(I don't know if that game has a story since I haven't played it)

Dont shit talk j-stars. That game was amazing and introduced to me some of my favorite series

I stand by the fact that almost every single battle based Anime would be perfect for a devil may cry style game

The problem isn't arena fighters, it's the fact that they refuse to get good studios to make them

@Pie_The_Man

16 сағат бұрын

Which they do because they're licensed games made on the assumption that people will buy them because of the IP rather than the actual quality of the game

Man I just can't wait for sparking zero.. I preordered it already

Tbh, my main issue with Kill la Kill: if was the fact that Super Ryuko wasn't playable post-game

I think the biggest culprits in this curse are Spike Chunsoft. Their games are shallow with boring gameplay and cheap visuals, games like Jump Force and OPM are the prime examples of rushed development leading to an undercooked product that leaves fans ultimately disappointed. CC2's games might be samey, but their presentation is top notch and I think that's ultimately what anime fans want out of these sort of games, and it looks like Spike Chunsoft is taking a page out of their book with Sparking Zero, considering how visually impressive that game is shaping up to be. I also think that this recent trend of anime games trying to be more competitively viable is really healthy for the genre, it's better for arena fighters to be properly considered and respected as a subgenre of fighting games rather than relegating them to cheap, silly party games. The best games to feature this sort of direction are Demon Slayer: Hinokami Chronicles, and My Hero: One's Justice 2. Both of these games received proper balancing updates with feedback from the community, and had competitive communities for a while. Now on its own that doesn't say much (Jump Force also has a competitive scene) but it's moreso that these games feel like their mechanics were designed with proper competitive fighting in mind, the cast feels more balanced than your average Storm game, and the gameplay is much more deliberate than those games too. One's Justice 2 specifically feels like more like a fighting game than an arena fighter (if that makes sense) because every character plays completely differently, and both combos and neutral in that game feel more like what you'd get in a standard anime fighter over the usual button mashing you'd see in Storm games.

We need more Smash Bros clones/anime platform fighters like Jump Superstars and Jump Ultimate Stars on DS.

@leomichell2757

14 күн бұрын

Look up super smash flash 2 or 3 it’s smash bros with anime characters in them to only on PC your welcome

J-Stars Victory Vs expanded my horizon in anime and holds a special place for me

The Dragon Ball series is one of the only mainstream anime to have a wide variety of games to choose from you have: Kakarot - an rpg style game and mainly exists if you just want to experience the story with incredible visuals Xenoverse - a create character that includes characters from dragon ball heroes and several player battles and raid bosses and also has light rpg elements Breakers - an asymmetric game that allows you to play as a raider or survivor with multiple friends FighterZ - a competitive fighting game that boasted a huge fgc scene for its incredible visuals and it’s depth and technicality appealing to a wider audience And now Sparking Zero a continuation to tenkaichi series which is essentially the ultimate dragon ball battle simulator with the biggest roster, incredible visuals and the ability to create your own scenarios or experience what if scenarios

@sharpester7277

Ай бұрын

Fighterz is easily one of the ultimate DragonBall games. It makes you feel like you are actually using the characters, an original story, all of the important characters from the roster, fun gameplay and plenty of callbacks and references.

@Ares_-JM

Ай бұрын

@@sharpester7277 I agree with all of those points but i hesitate to call it the ultimate dragon ball game as a fighting game yes but as a dragon ball game not so much the roster is no where near the level of what the bt games have it doesn’t allow you to experience any aspect of the original story and doesn’t really offer anything outside of just the core fighting game mechanics don’t get me wrong fighterZ is incredible and it’s reference, callbacks and animations are phenomenal but it’s a fighting game first and foremost and i wouldn’t really recommend it to someone that wants to experience the story of the original series or just the ability to have a plethora of characters to choose from if i had to say games i would consider to be the ultimate dragon ball games it would be budokai 3/infinite world as well bt3 and sparking zero seems to be following suit in what those games did

@eliezercardoso8009

29 күн бұрын

@@Ares_-JM Big reason for that is cause Dragon Ball is just so popular that there's less risk with experimentation compared to whatever modern anime is popular, they usually lose a large chunk of it's hype after a season is over, so it's "best" to rush an easy to make Arena Fighter to come out while hype is still at it's peak, Dragon Ball will always sell ridiculously well and make up it's budget,no matter the game genre, when it releases, or how expensive a game was to make so they can go crazy with it.

@TheReZisTLust

29 күн бұрын

Besides Breakers Naruto literally has done all that too lol Pick your poison of RPG story mode, Shinobi Striker, Pick Your 2d fighter though older gen and Open Arena fighter in storm 4.

@EskChan19

29 күн бұрын

@@sharpester7277 Nah, not even close. It's a swety competitive E-Sport. That's what it wants to be. But that doesn't make for a good dragonball experience. It's a technically solid fighting game, don't get me wrong. But it IS a competitive sweatfest. It's a game you have to dedicate yourself to and master, because otherwise it's no fun at all. And unlike games like Budokai Tenkaichi or Xenoverse, it's not something you can pick up, have a good time with, scratch that Dragonball itch for a bit and then put it back down. To have fun with FighterZ you HAVE to practice, practice, practice. If you are a high skill E-Sports guy, then this is a great game. If you are a casual Dragonball fan, this game sucks major ass. To this day, Budokai Tenkaichi 3 is the ultimate Dragonball experience, with Xenoverse 2 as a close second. Neither of them is as mechanically complex as FighterZ is, but that is their strength. You don't NEED to practice 10 hours a day for a month before you can have fun with them like with FighterZ. You just pick a character (or in the case of Xenoverse make your own), then you have fun throwing beams, transforming and punching people through the arena, and feel like you are playing DRAGONBALL. FighterZ is a good fighting game but it doesn't really feel very Dragonball. If you switched the sprites out for another franchise you'd have no idea that this is a dragonball game.

Bandai, plz bring back One Piece: Grand Battle and Naruto: Clash of Ninja. Not every anime fighter has to follow the same template.

@Wano-Kuno

Ай бұрын

I really REALLY wanna try out clash of ninja

@BiggestGoatfr

Ай бұрын

Bandai didn't make Naruto clash of ninja that goes to Eight Ing and Tomy (now Takara Tomy)

@CarbyGuuGuu

25 күн бұрын

@@BiggestGoatfr Yes, but now that they own the overall game rights to Naruto, it means they can greenlight any new entry. Eighting is the developer.

@EWOODJ

13 күн бұрын

@@CarbyGuuGuu Neither owns the rights to Clash of Ninja though. They can make a similar game but it won’t be Clash of Ninja.

When dragon ball started being the only series I thought was releasing good arena fighter or just good anime games told me a lot. I realized this after storm went on hiatus. FighterZ, and Xenoverse2 are great. I really think anime games should be looking at different genres… you know like Kakarot and FighterZ not being arena fighter. Imagine bleach with devil may cry gameplay. That would be so on brand especially if you know Nero and Ichigo share the same voice actor. Was that one piece rpg that came out any good?

Byking is most known for developing the Gundam Vs series an anime arena fighter series so successful that Bandai refuses to make an up to date port of the game from the arcades where it originates, just so that they can keep selling the unbelievably expensive arcade machines whenever they port something it's usually outdated by 2-3 years behind the current arcade version, or something completely inferior and only somewhat based of the arcade version, like Gundam Versus it is however, still better than 90% of the games discussed on this video

You should check out Anarchy Reigns, it’s a pretty decent arena fighter done right. It was developed by Platinum the devs behind Bayonetta and MGRR. Also, you left out the raging blast games, lmao. Great video either way. As for Naruto, the series had a bunch of games, from RPGs on the DS to open-world adventure games. There was the Clash of Ninja series, which was pretty good, unfortunately, it’s the Storm series that gets to live on. I feel like the lack of completion made them complacent later on.

They really did Jump Force dirty, just a generic cash grabs!! Better just play j-stars victory vs I do love MHOJ2 tho, better than other 3d anime arena fighters in recent years..

I think because of increase in Mobile gamers, devs have moved to Gacha games. Not saying that console gamers have reduced, but obviously there's a heavier attention being put in innovating Gacha games, making all current and upcoming Arena Fighters more formulaic. I hope Sparking Zero breaks the curse

@saquibhussain2333

26 күн бұрын

I think the issue he's pointing out isn't going to be resolved by Sparking Zero! because we still aren't getting boss battles, different sorts of gameplays and depth. I think Kakarot already fixed the issue though

@mohammadtegarkharissidqi1755

25 күн бұрын

​@@saquibhussain2333Kakarot isnt arena fighter game, its fully rpg

@understood.that.reference

21 күн бұрын

@@mohammadtegarkharissidqi1755 exactly

@leomichell2757

14 күн бұрын

Well that because mobile was the first to have gotcha Bandai made dragon ball Z Dokkan battle in 2012

@leomichell2757

14 күн бұрын

@@saquibhussain2333son you have no idea how many of us OG gamer have waited for a new Budokai game and sparking Zero is that

JStars was still a banger to play with my friends mainly because it felt like it was still a great Jump game.

The gundam extreme versus game was so goood no lie it's just true

dragon ball games have always been great and don't suffer the issues other arena fighters do with their deep combat mechanics, Budakai 4 (sparking zero) is going to be the greatest anime arena fighter no matter how you look into it. I'm not glazing, I'm just basing my opinions on all the trailers and gameplays out there showing the developer's passion to make a good game for the people who have been waiting for 17 years.

Im surprised Saint Seya Soldiers Soul was left out of this. Besides the BT series i think Urban Reign is one of the best arena fighters of all time. Not anime but still worth a mention

@RevengerPhoenix

16 күн бұрын

Saint seiya is not well know in English speaking markets. Only in Spanish Latin America, a handful of European countries and some Asian ones. Seems the creator here is either from America or some other country that didn’t get the SS hype. So it probably went under the radar for him. Plus, it’s not even on sale digitally anymore. And grabbing a disc is expensive now. So maybe he knew about the game, and he couldn’t play it to make a proper review.

@ItsOver9000Productions

16 күн бұрын

@@RevengerPhoenix makes sense. I pirated it even back then lol

Also, something to keep in mind is that a lot of these games have small development teams and a rushed schedule

going through all the smash themes was smart

What is the ending music for this video? It sounds good.

In conclusion: please save us, DBZ Sparking Zero.

I pray to God and hope that the Bleach Rebirth game wont be trash. The Bleach fans are *starving* for a new video game!

I loved Byrning Blood. From its artstyle to how they handled combat, it was a great time. Especially the small details like Luffy's steam when using 2nd Gear.

I wish anime games tried their hand at the formula Fullmetal Alchemist PS2 games had, RPG platforming beatemups. Those game were so fun, dope, and really did the source material justice. Beating Scar (a battle you were supposed to lose) was so hype. Imagining something like that at a grander scale with modern consoles, my God...

The outro of the video reminds me of the fineas and fearb movie videogame for the dci

Hopefully, sparking zero and rebirth of souls save the genre. It's depressing when your favorite anime/manga series gets a low-budget game adaptation compared to other franchises.

Hey since you are the anime video game guy could you do a video on fairy tail since it’s getting a sequel

only 15 ;-;

All anime fighters are fun, they just weren’t meant to be competitive. A lot of them are actually very different mechanically (I’m meaning the arena fighters) they just have a similar vibe- But you wouldn’t play Storm the same way you’d play Cursed Clash or Raging Blast- or even any of the Fate games. The issue with those games is that they’re never built on balance, they’re cash grabs. You play them with your friends and mess around, not online in any sort of ranked setting. This is why the only real successful anime fighting games are 2d. Idk when people started taking anime games so seriously as if they weren’t always kinda bad. Probably around the same time people forgot that games were meant to kill time and be fun.

What's the music that played at the end? Sounds like it's from a DS game.

Many already commented about it, but I'll say too. Seiya soldier's soul is one of my favorites arena fighter, not only the graphics are good, but the combat and gameplay is also very good, besides that, the story mode has four arcs, and the character rooster is huge, with bronze, gold, silver saints, and even odin saints, poiseidon marines and hades specters, and you can even unlock the gods themselves, all the characters for free, no DLC, nothing. You just need to play the story mode, and you'll have all those characters. Besides that, saint seiya SS even received many dubs for different languages, spanish, Brazilian Portuguese etc. The voice acting in this game is perfect in all languages.

Next year anniversary, need a fighting game that utilizes what will be for Sparking Zero and add more characters. Maybe add more than just Weekly SJ and include Monthly SJ titles that were originally going to be Weekly titles.

@leomichell2757

14 күн бұрын

Nope Nuh uh dragon ball only fits in that category no other anime games because it wouldn’t work

Where's Gundam Extreme Versus? The only good competitive arena. Not even bait, it's a series of games that's been around for 20+ years.

@TeamTowers1

Ай бұрын

Eh to be fair I don't think most anime arena fighters are meant to be competitive games, nor are the people who play them looking for a competitive game. They are looking to act out the fanfiction in their heads.

@mousemessiah

Ай бұрын

@TeamTowers1 the thing is fighting games live and die off of casual and competitive play. Most arena fighters, especially those made by spike, are just blind arena fighters which prioritizes "fun" over mechanics for skill, or anything competitive. If it was just all about acting out fun anime stuff Demon Slayer, Jump Force, and more should be still alive and well. Then there's Gundam Extreme Versus, which backs up my sentiment as it's still alive and well, and has been doing so for a decade or two. It's an arena fighter, yet made it to EVO with the likes of Tekken and such.

@mousemessiah

Ай бұрын

@TeamTowers1 Point is fighting game logic still applies to Arena fighters. Atleast I can give JJK Cursed Clash some credit, it tried copying the Gundam Extreme VS mold. (Final Fantasy NT got their mold from Gundam Extreme VS too). But, it didn't do it with the best optimization. Atleast Byking is trying, which is respectable. Demon Slayer tried as well, but given CC2 is limited by the anime, they ofc stopped updating the game, stopped trying to keep it active, etc. It had a nice competitive scene until then.

@TeamTowers1

Ай бұрын

@@mousemessiah I think you are kind of missing my point. A player can't really do the "act out the fanfiction in their heads" thing with a traditional fighter, it just doesn't scratch that itch. That is an itch that anime arena fighters at least in theory scratch. By no means all of them do that well mind you (I would argue most of them don't) but that really is the appeal of the Budokai Tenkaichi games and will very much be the appeal of Sparking Zero. People still love Budokai Tenkaichi 3 to this day and that is a game that is clearly designed for fun over balance (given how only 5 characters out of the 160 plus roster are even viable on it's competitive scene).

@TeamTowers1

Ай бұрын

@@mousemessiah I'm not so sure that logic really applies. I'm not a fighting game player and I loved the BT games. The really issue with a lot anime arena fighters is that they lacked the things that made BT a great toybox game. Rather than having the kind of wide open destructible environments of BT and the attacks that can hit each other at massive distances across such expansive maps (eg one of the things that helped player recreated the scale of the battles in the source material), a lot of them lock players into a rather limited space that is little more than a ring. To that end while I am looking forward to Sparking Zero (I say this as someone who didn't play that many anime arena fighters beyond BT), but there isn't a chance in hell that could be ever be a balanced game, by virtue of the shear roster size making that impossible. But I also don't think it needs to be balanced (BT3 sure sure wasn't).

Demon Slayer HC had such high potential to be something great. I feel it just needs one sequel with more characters and balance changes to be a classic arena fighter .

That’s why I have hope for nen impact while yes it isn’t that visually appealing due to its low budget but if it really controls like marvel vs Capcom I think it’ll really take off

@Cam10_84

Ай бұрын

I'd agree, but with the Marvel Collection announced, I wonder if people will go back to that when the time comes.

I need an era of mario kart clones. Let me play a DBZ Mario kart!

It would've been cool if Saint Seiya Soldiers Soul was talked about here, although the reason why might've been because it was delisted literally everywhere

I think you should have also gone over the other arena fighters Dragon Ball had post Tenkaichi. Raging Blast, Zenkai Battle, Battle of Z, and maybe Ultimate Tenkaichi.

There's another arena fighter game called saint seiya soldiers soul and it has spanish dub which means its surprising but now the game is rare

i think sparking zero will set a new precedent for arena fighters, this is the game im looking forward to the most, if it is incredibly great, then we will hopefully get just as great, if not greater arena fighters

Raging blast 1&2 : oh really so I’m just a joke to you huh?

great video, but there is a small mistake in it, JJK is not developped by byking they only supervised the project gemdrops devellopped it

I really love one justice, byking did a excellent job with the quirks of everybody in the roster and it shows how they csre about it, hopefully we get a Third installment

Would love to think after Sparking zero is where Bandai changes how they do things but it's been the same for so long that Dragon Ball is the series that gets the most put in it

@brandonsupreme8380

29 күн бұрын

Yeah sadly but not this time they literally give us the same characters like what no new characters after 5 years i expected more considering they have 5 active dbz games shame on them

Sparking zero is gonna be so good though

Dude, you should look up videos for the upcoming Bleach Soul Resonance game. I think you would be impressed

Anime fans say they don't want anymore arena fighters but will then ignore games like OP Odyssey, DB Breakers and NxB Shinobi Strikers. They don't know what they want.

@mordecaiandthekobokerz

Ай бұрын

Anime fans didn't ignore those games, what are you talking about?

@eliezercardoso8009

Ай бұрын

They didn't ignore these games, but these games also had tons of problems, Breakers was barebones and buggy at launch, although it's way better now, a lot of people just didn't want to give it a second chance after a bad launch, same thing with Shinobi Strikers severely lacking on content at launch and not having much depth, One Piece Odyssey was pretty good tho.

@bobjones9385

Ай бұрын

You can also just not like arena fighters and the games you listed bro it's not that hard

@TheReZisTLust

29 күн бұрын

​​@@eliezercardoso8009Release Strikee actually had such a small tidy jutsu list that you could actually find some debth in it. Theres some combos you can run that look flashy, others that do big dmg and even counters with some jutsu. Hell Hakus a really old character and his jutsu still counters modern releases, most notably kawakii so knowing when to use that was key.

@zzzz7815

20 күн бұрын

Because a lot of those were unfortunately shit at launch and people never bothered to try it again. Look at FighterZ, although it's community has stopped growing it was a successful non arena fighting game.

They need a j stars that's fights like a vs 2d fighter

The naruto storm gameplay was fire! Not only the story mode

I actually played ones justice until OJ2’s release. It wasn’t dead. Oj2 didn’t die quickly after launch either. It died recently

@Nerwrax15

29 күн бұрын

Yup, there was a massive difference between OJ1's lifespan and OJ2's lifespan.

You could probably also count Gundam Versus and Dissidia NT

I will stand for J stars till the day I die, even with its flaws and imperfections. I peaked at rank #3 with cards on as Platinumbuizel like 8 years ago 😹.

All we need is a game for each anime where you create your character and level up like Elden ring. An open world where you it’s got pvp and pve

@leomichell2757

14 күн бұрын

Bro there’s 2 already code vain and Scarlet nexus both are great games

Once I buy these games a play them for a week and then I’m done but I still need a arena fighter for bleach

damn black clover quartet knights didnt even get mentioned

I know it's really old, but a lot of people don't know the FIRST "j stars" type Arena fighter stared with D.O.N Which stood for Dragonball z, One piece, Naruto.. Duh. It released on Gamecube and ps2 i think and it only released in Japan. If you we're a Nerd like me you emulated it and for it's time it was a fun Arena fighter, it just did not get any love because of the lack of release in NA. I will also add Shinobi Striker gets slept on when it is a really fun game.

I still feel like kill la kill of is the closest it got I wish the team got another chance to do it but people really hate arena fighters now

Spike Chunsoft is also the company that ruined Fossil Fighters. They produced Fossil Fighters: Frontier which is basically unanimously agreed upon by the community to be a dumpster fire.

Sparking Zero will save us

This video is way too biased to reach a conclusion that just isn't consistently supported. Yes, people do not like bad arena fighters, like Cursed Clash, Hero Nobody Knows and so on...But that's not exclusive to Arena Fighters, people just don't like badly designed games that clearly feel rushed in general. If people don't like Arena fighters at all, it makes absolutely no sense as to why people quite like the Storm 4, Hinokami Chronicles and even One's Justice 2. Players love well made games, it just happens that the great majority of recent Arena Fighters are not that recently.

The two biggest problems with anime arena fighters are 1.) they’re all undercooked and 2.) not every anime game adaptation needs to be that specific genre. Here’s some examples of what sort of alternatives we’d prefer: -Hunter X Hunter as an rpg that combines Baldur’s Gate with Scribblenauts -Baki as a 2.5D arcade fighter -Kengan Ashura as a traditional 3D fighter -Attack on Titan as a faster Just Cause with better physics until you titan shift then it becomes Sleeping Dogs or Sifu -Dororo as a fusion of character action and soulsborne where you have to plan different combo strings for different bosses while managing new vulnerabilities every time Hyakkimaru reclaims a body part

Anime arena games=cod cycle💀

Can’t put Budokai Tenkaichi Series in the same sentence as the others

If y'all are looking for good arena fighters than definitely xenoverse 2 and gundam vs franchise. Gundam vs is even playable on Android through ppspp(psp emulation)

They literally peaked at ninja storm and just kept going down to see how low they can go before they stop making profit

Didnt Saint seiya sanctuary chapter was realeased first?

You missed one, which was probably one of the more unique ones to release: Black Clover Quartet Knights.

@di4mgaming115

18 күн бұрын

Thats more of a hack n slash

19:40 "Glorified dlc for the previous instalment" just like Generation and Revolution, at least compared to these two Connection has a real story mode

@MegaLoflof

Ай бұрын

I think the fact that it's still sold for 60 dollars despite being glorified DLC is the biggest insult to the players here. I think that with all the specifically additional content Connections adds (so without considering the recycled content from previous games), it's only slightly better than the Road to Boruto DLC for Storm 4.

@aokyoutsuki7744

Ай бұрын

I still wonder how anime slideshows kept getting used, really cutting whatever costs they can huh...

The end point is a bit of a contradiction. The problem isn’t the genre, it’s the lack of polish fed into the genre. I personally love arena fighters, even the ones that follow a formula.

What we need of different MC and different time period in Anime game. It should be either RPG or platform action.

Glad to hear the problem acknowledged. If they were done well there wouldn't be a problem. But it seems as if they make them either in the same or similar engine, and they don't polish the gameplay form one game to another. It's as if you're playing almost the same game every time you try a new one. J-Stars and One Piece Burning Blood, characters have stiff and rather slow movement, and there's little to no cancelling options from move to move, or from normal attack to special move. Then just by seeing another like the One Punch Man, or Jump Force you know it's gonna be the same, or almost the same. I have low hope for DB Sparking Zero, looks like the animations suffered because they cared more for effects.

I hope sparking zero turns out to be a good game. I really like arena fighters and just want a high quality one with an alive online player base.

you could argue dragonball z sagas on sega saturn and ps1 was even before tenkaichi 1 also you forgot to mention the blast games from spike, tenkaichi tag team wasn't their last db arena fighter, technically there was raging blast 1+2, utlimate tenkaichi (in japan ultimate blast) and dbz kinect

I just want a new shonen jump platform fighter ... Like the one on DS

I thought Danganropa was made by Spike before the merger?