Asking for poetry from an engineer is like trying to buy bread at a hardware store

@horaciocapanelli-soto4710

2 жыл бұрын

He wanted to find a sense of spiritual wonderment in a bunch of human with mechanical training I agree with your statement

@Justininurmum

Жыл бұрын

The moon landing is a fake, sorry you’re too blind to see that 😭

@PBurns-ng3gw

Жыл бұрын

Engineers can certainly be poetic. Just in a manner that only their kind can truly appreciate. Same with mathematicians, programmers, architects....

@peregrintuk5316

2 ай бұрын

But a engineer have a vision of the world, the space and life.

Translation: I am envious of you. If I wasn't married to who I'm married to I'd probably would be out there doing something similar. You guys were on another world and it appears to me you don't seem to appreciate what you went through.

@jimmywest8684

3 жыл бұрын

He's jealous that Neil's married to the queen from the first 2 seasons.

@Vampirewolfking

3 жыл бұрын

His marriage killed his career. He was appointed admiral of the fleet when his wife became the Queen, but many people have said that he would have gotten to the top on his own merit. An exceptional man.

@reaganhill7007

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimmywest8684 I understood that reference

Tobias Menzies is one of the best out there today. His scene when he watches Armstrong walk on th moon was heartbreaking

@hollywoodshopaholic

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah his screen presence alone is so engaging, loved his small part on Game of Thrones and am considering watching The Terror just for him.

@Jon.A.Scholt

2 жыл бұрын

Watch the Terror! It is one of my favorite seasons of tv. Tobias also reunites with Cirian Hinds in it from Rome. If you haven't seen Menzies as Brutus in Rome, check that out too. His performance in the second season is some of his best work, and the first season for that matter. The guy is just so underrated; if I ever had a show (obviously never happening) I would seek him out immediately.

@Justininurmum

Жыл бұрын

The moon landing is a fake, sorry you’re too blind to see that 😭

@sowpmactavish

Жыл бұрын

@@hollywoodshopaholic Watch him on Rome. He was meant for so much more on that show if only GoT didnt steal their thunder.

It's not that the astronauts lacked intelligence - heck, you had to have a keen understanding of physics, aeronautics, math, and keeping a level head under pressure to be an astronaut. I think the issue is that these men didn't have time to consider the philosophical, spiritual, or personal implications of what it meant to travel through space and land on the moon. They were purely analytical.

@oscarin13

3 жыл бұрын

@Matthew Morrison Indeed, but Armstrong was a really good engineer and Aldrin had a dissertation on orbital mechanics. I think they, in particular, were the most academy-oriented of the Apollo astronauts.

@davidwebb9092

3 жыл бұрын

@Matthew Morrison Edgar Mitchel was a Sc. D. from MIT. Astronauts from the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo era were highly educated.

@HandGrenadeDivision

3 жыл бұрын

They were modern day renaissance men expected to be knowledgeable about geology, physics, astronomy - they weren't selected for their ability to write poetry. Some of the more sensitive and artistic types, like Al Bean the painter, were included by accident, not design. Many of the astronauts later regretted not being able to talk to people about the humanity of their experiences.

@antoniousai1989

3 жыл бұрын

@Matthew Morrison Astronauts would still say the same. Mr. Hadfield once said "Honestly, we're very glorified technicians"

@jamezkpal2361

3 жыл бұрын

What these men had was balls. The sheer terror of space flight is beyond my comprehension. To be able to overcome that and do your job is what makes a hero. Their not oblivious, just fearless.

What an amazing scene!. So full of emotions. Philip wanted to know their personal impact of such accomplishment but these astronauts were merely analytical and focus on their tasks. And their duty took over the entire experience. What a waste! Prince Philip's surely thought...their tasks took away the humanity of the experience.

@dan-tf6ie

3 жыл бұрын

I think it shows how he lacks a certain perspective too - Phillip can only imagine the scale and grandeur of the achievement without understanding the risk and the work put in to ensure its success. Those astronauts' survival and well being certainly depended on their commitment to the mission, and although it's sad they might not have considered the philosophical side of things, their accomplishment isn't diminished by it as he might think.

@eballa9056

3 жыл бұрын

@@dan-tf6ie Good point.

@zenmaster9636

3 жыл бұрын

@@dan-tf6ie Well said. Although of course in real life I’m not sure how they were personally, we could also assume that these are professionals in a professional mode. It might take a few years for the personal appreciation for what they did to develop. And like you rightly said, Daniel, Philip has no real appreciation. Not knowing if you watched the show, but he never really earned anything. He did put in lessons and time as a pilot, sure, but it was after he was in his Royal position and he had the glee of a boy rather than the skills these same men had learned. I think during the show itself this was an important point among other points, because it’s when he really realizes he isn’t that mature and his life feels wasted of having fulfilled true potential, just a life flirting with it. Just my two cents.

@marksmadhousemetaphysicalm2938

3 жыл бұрын

The first walk on the moon was only 2.5 hours and that first mission was really just about getting boots on the ground and getting a flag planted...if he wanted thoughtfulness...the later missions gave more time...Apollo 15 through Apollo 17 would have been the ones...these guys were fighter pilots...its a tough job...and requires focus and discipline...those on long duration missions have more time for existential reflection...when LOP-G goes up or when Starship takes people to mars... and we get those types of missions...ISS astronauts talk about that kind experience he's looking for...astronauts are explorers but they aren't adventurers, they do it for science...subtle difference there, but Important...and it's why they don't relate to the prince...

@or6144

3 жыл бұрын

They were still too young to have had contemplated their achievement on that level maybe later on in life. The prince was mixing his enthusiasm while waxing sentimental about his lost youth combined with the profound meaning of the moon event

No matter how much you're admire about someone or their achievements ,in the end, they're just a human too. Just like you

@greivinarias7895

2 жыл бұрын

There is a saying: "Never meet your heroes"

I think Philip was expecting them to be deep thinkers, profound philosophers or something like that But they were just ordinary guys who done an extraordinary thing

@BMarie774

3 жыл бұрын

It’s n all encompassing procedure to fly or even be passenger on a space craft. You all have tasks. You’re all focused. You don’t really get to sit there and think “I’m flying in space right now”. I imagine there’s a bit of a disconnect. You’ve done it so many times in training. You know it’s real this time, but you’re so focused that it doesn’t feel much different than the training.

@franbranco1333

2 жыл бұрын

Well said

@hsiehman

2 жыл бұрын

Here's another perspective: no rocket engineer or computer engineer who built the vehicles will go anywhere near those things during launch. They are miles away in a bunker for a reason. They find a corn-fed boy on some farm in the mid-west and say "son, you wanna do your country proud and be one of the first people in space?", slap a bible in his hands and strap him to the tip of a giant volatile liquid oxygen filled rockets built by the lowest bidder.

@ostrich67

2 жыл бұрын

@@BMarie774 Yes, that's one of the things that you're so busy doing that you don't have time to ponder your feelings about it. That only comes with reflection, and they were not really given time to do that either with all the appearances, parades, and goodwill tours they were made to do.

@BMarie774

2 жыл бұрын

ostrich67 Exactly. It was drilled in to them to follow procedure. Procedure, procedure, procedure. You don’t get to feel emotion. If you do, you lose sight. You get distracted. And then after the fact they were paraded around regurgitating the same things for media, after tedious media training I’m sure.

This reminds me of a conversation I had with my mom when I was a teen. I asked her what she thought her life’s mission was, what her place in the universe was. She replied saying she never had the time to stop and think of such stuff as she was too busy with her job and taking care of the family. I recall being irate with her response. And she coolly reminded me that mulling, pondering, ruminating and dwelling was something only the privileged can enjoy - those who have the privilege of time, or of money. Now, she is enjoying life after retirement and has the time to indulge in such conversations with me, but I don’t often have the privilege of time. Prince Philip was privileged enough to be able to think of life’s loftier questions. The astronauts did not have the time to think of philosophy because staying alive and returning home safely was of utmost importance. I like to think that they were able to ruminate about the philosophical implications of their achievements later in life, as old men.

@felicityjim5349

3 жыл бұрын

Your mother was indeed correct. One has to sacrifice the philosophical or emotional thoughts and feeling in order to get their work done and earn money. Very few people can do both or have the privilege of doing both.

@bkimatab

3 жыл бұрын

What a wonderful comment!

@horaciocapanelli-soto4710

2 жыл бұрын

I understand what you mean but’ at the same time I actually disagree. My family comes from a working middle class. But when we were younger it used to be really bad at times. My parents, in spite, of having a very stable financial life, never let us endulce in that stability because my father wanted us to “become our own people”, so he taught us to work since very young, which I’m really grateful for. Each of my siblings and I had our own journey of human development while trying to survive individually and to raise our families, we had our own share of pain in our paths but still, with all that I never ceased asking myself the great questions, those that many times don’t even have an answer. What really was my purpose here? What’s our purpose as a species in the Universe? To be frank, when people are good hearted, is through pain exactly that our sense of wonderment awakens. I believe that’s why your mother now has those great conversations with you. Some have that awakenings younger. Our only purpose in life is to learn. It’s the Universe itself experiencing through our bodies.

@chitsb

6 ай бұрын

@@horaciocapanelli-soto4710thank you fir this persoective. Makes a lot of sense

I think this scene was incredible

The sheer disappointment in this scene...

Brilliant scene, intense, existential, Tobias Menzies is remarkable, a Shakespearean moment in which he reflects the humanity of Prince Philip RIP

Moral here: unless you keep an open mind, don't meet your heroes. Phenomenal performance from Tobias Menzies.

Reminds me of being a US soldier in the Iraq War. People see me in uniform and buy me drinks and expect me to talk and act a certain way. But in the end I was just a kid who wanted to go back out there and look out for my friends.

@fatfrankthepeteacher2503

3 жыл бұрын

You keep killing terrorists!

@nylal493

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your service ❤️

@seeriktus

3 жыл бұрын

I first read that as "look for my friends", Hope you find some contentment.

@bkimatab

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@naonoodle2847

3 жыл бұрын

@HK Klein How is your response called for? The guy gave you an honest analysis of his time as a soldier and the way people perceive him as a result. He wasn't asking for anyone to call him heroic - though without doubt, he's significantly more heroic than you are.

"Never meet your heroes", with that being said, the astronaut are too focused on the mission and all the moving parts of it, that they lack the time to think of anything else.

This scene is hilarious! They replied as engineers would. They were as fascinated at royalty and Prince Philip and he was of them. I remember the moon landing well.

@Justininurmum

Жыл бұрын

The moon landing is a fake, sorry you’re too blind to see that 😭

@fleetadmiralperry5739

Жыл бұрын

Did you and your parents watch it live?

@FabFanFour

Жыл бұрын

@@fleetadmiralperry5739 I was at a friend's house.

"As your Majesty would understand as a pilot, as a disciplinarian, training and the pressure of any life or death situation leave little room for personal weaknesses. If your Majesty believes he is capable of holding concentration and not losing any mental or emotional control then his Majesty is extremely aware of what is required to accomplish goals of any magnitude." I think that is the answer he is looking for.

@Matt7895

3 жыл бұрын

What? Not only was that sheer word salad, it seems to be addressed to a King or a Queen, not an HRH like Prince Philip.

@samshah7628

3 жыл бұрын

Your Highness ？

@Matt7895

3 жыл бұрын

@@samshah7628 Your Royal Highness

@horaciocapanelli-soto4710

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Great observation

I adore The Crown and I understand they were going for something specific in this scene as it pertains to Phillip, but it’s such a mis characterization of the Apollo 11 crew. They were all intelligent, thoughtful men who over the years had many profound things to say about their time in space.

RIP Michael Collins (a few weeks after the Duke) With Armstrong's death in 2012, only Aldrin remains

@joebone3151

3 жыл бұрын

I was at a science museum laying on a yoga mat looking at and learning all the constellations when the announcement of Neil's death happened it was sad but made my experience at the museum even better

@jamiestewart48

3 жыл бұрын

These men will never die. They will live on as long as humanity.

One of the best scenes!

@samshah7628

3 жыл бұрын

what I would add is the later conversation P. Philip had with Queen. it shows They are best friends and Queen said it well when she said something like ....‘perhaps thats why they were chosen for the job‘

Both Armstrong and Philip were Navy men, although Neil was more of Naval aviator while Philip was a destroyer commander

I loved how they showed his human side in this show, I never really had a positive opinion of him irl but they did great at showing his humanity in this scene and the other scenes when he was so excited over the moon landing

it's weird how philip says "they might be too young to understand" his feelings, but they're only ten years apart 😂

@horaciocapanelli-soto4710

2 жыл бұрын

10 years is a generation

@Obi-Wan_Kenobi

2 жыл бұрын

@@horaciocapanelli-soto4710 No it's not, a generation is the space in between a parent and their kid. It's roughly 20 years, no one can have a kid at the age of 10 years old.

People expect that the person who does the first thing, "first man to walk on moon", "first man to create bulb", "first man to do something X,Y, Z" will be purely and totally motivated by some philosophical and metaphysical entity. Remember the scene when prince philip snubbed priest for not doing action and only thinking, reading and talking. When he really met the "Man of action", he observed that they lacked abilities to have a metaphysical and spiritual sense of reality. The problem was not with the astronauts, it was with him having an unrealisitic expectations from them. Also, on a personal note, I don't like to have a discussion with someone who just talks philosphical shit all the time, the most memorable time I have spent is with having friends who find joy and fun in the booing noise of water cooler.

@user-ry3yf3je1h

2 жыл бұрын

Well when you have the technological might to send people to the moon, you don't worry about philosophical implications as they are in every term irrelevant, to discount the astronauts intelligence is quiet stupid to say the least, this scene comes off as something way too dramatised.

@ryanjones5367

2 жыл бұрын

if you can't even appreciate the significance or magnitude of said actions then what differentiates these men from any animal operating from purely base instinct?

This was my favourite episode.

Queen Elizabeth II got it right later in this episode. You don't want people whose minds wander too abstractly to man a spaceship. You need someone smart enough to grasp how to operate the ship, but not imaginative enough to risk them doing something beyond their training. When you're part of a crew of astronauts and command centre crew doing something that complex and risky, unpredictably is not an admirable trait. There isn't a lot of time for deep thinking and reflection. When you think about it, despite the incredible technical feat they accomplished, they're really just one part of a huge team. It makes sense that they are who they are.

Absolutely spectacular acting.

Prince Phillip thinking right now: "Why did we let you become a superpower???"

@hannahdyson7129

Жыл бұрын

Better than Russia would have the reply

I lost it laughing every time these guys sneezed in the middle of Philip's monologuing.

They were highly trained doing an intense technical job, where as Prince Philip is a man who has a job that amounts to little more than doing photo opportunities and expressing an interest in things, so has time to go pondering things in his mind.

Prince Philip should understand that these astronauts were not just pilots. They were also engineers and scientists. I can understand exactly what they were saying. When a person is involved in such a highly technical activity, not to mention that it was also of a pioneering nature, all the time available is used towards ensuring the success of that mission. You do not have time to let your mind wander for even the shortest time. You must remain focused and on task. That is exactly what all their training emphasized because it was a necessity.

The grass is always greener on the other side.

Netflix’s hit show The Crown has an amazing episode surrounding 1969’s moon landing (don’t worry, no spoilers here!). His Royal Highness Prince Phillip the Duke of Edinburg felt lost in life. Why? Because the outside world it seemed to him was doing great things, making great strides - while all he did, was go from place to place - making speech after speech, which no one seemed to care about. Just as the moon landing caught the world’s imagination at the time, so too it did of Prince Phillip. He not only watched and read countless times the footage and reports of the astronauts and their mission, but he also sought out a 15-minute audience with Neil Armstrong and his two co-pilots. His quest? To understand how the astronauts truly felt, as they carried out what was arguably the most ambitious and significant journey in human history. On meeting the 3 young men, the Prince is filled with awe. He eagerly asks them about what their thoughts had been as they descended on the surface of the moon, and how they felt when they looked at their blue home 380,000 km away. Their response? Blank faces. They were just men on a mission. Hundreds of checklists to ensure everything was working to perfection. No time to think. No time to smell the proverbial roses, or maybe moon dust in this case. They don’t even begin to understand the essence of the Prince’s questions. In fact, they counter-question him thus, “Sir you are so lucky. How does it feel to reside in a palace of a thousand rooms, live with the queen, have so many royal dinners and speeches, and lead such a meaningful life?” Much of investing today too, seems to be reduced to narratives. All the focus is on stock prices and instant returns. Fundamentals, the companies, the underlying businesses, their products or their expansion plans - are like a pale blue dot, far far away.

"Ah, Michael Collins. How long we've waited for this day. Arrest that man!" "Wait, wait--"

Philip saw a dream from afar, they saw a mission from within. His disappointment is so telling: he attached so much emotion to it, so many thoughts and feelings… as much as you’d wish for your dream to come to life, when it actually does it will inevitably lose its charm. Some dreams are better left as such…

This scene, amongst many others, clearly illustrated how much creative freedom the show runners have - the show is extremely historically inaccurate. Not only did this meeting never actually happen, but if you’ve seen real interviews with these astronauts, you’ll know they are absolutely nothing like this. All of them would have been almost 40 here. Yes Neil was more reserved and also always extremely mature for his age, but Aldrin was extremely insightful, and Collins very charismatic. This whole idea that they were immature and unexceptional is ridiculous.

@hansoullee9231

3 жыл бұрын

They made the astronauts younger to show Duke's midlife crisis, the life he dreamed of having if he chose not to marry the queen.

@abbaszaidi8371

3 жыл бұрын

10 year age gap. RIP Prince Philip btw (9 April 2021)

@cintsscha5899

2 жыл бұрын

I dont think they showed they were inmature and unexceptional. I think they showed Phillip had impossible expectations that no human could fill!!!

I wish I could meet a lot of people here making such thoughtful comments.

The thing about astronauts is that many of them (but certainly not all) are military men, usually fighter pilots and test pilots, who are extremely competent and emotionally stable, who think in lists, follow orders and repeat protocols, while not contemplating the deeper questions or having prolonged profound moments - it's all about mission and protocols. Some scientists and engineers also become astronauts, but mostly the kind who have similar kinds of attributes. They love to recruit scientists who went on dangerous missions to Antarctica, for example. An astronaut is a blend between a pilot, scientist, engineer and soldier.

The Apollo 11 crew and aswell as all the Mercury, Gemini, Apollo, STS crew meme era are heroes of mine. And I know enough to know buzz aldrin was a intellectual dude who would have definitely had some profound words for HRH. Neil would be stoic and gracious as usual. And Mike would be the one making the jokes. But this scene isn’t meant to convey the astronauts as dull it’s meant to convey how Philip was looking for emotional release. He thought meeting the astronauts, they would have the answers and wisdom that would fix his crisis. He realised he was looking in the wrong place, as much as Apollo 11 is inspiring if Philip wants to fix his mood he needs to look inwards, not to the sky. I’m sure his fascination with the mission represents a desire to fly away and escape the like he leads where he feels he’s being wasted.

@hannahdyson7129

Жыл бұрын

I don't think this is how it would have gone down in real life. Philip was very pragmatic and not very emotional, especially at this age

Philip always sounds like he really really really needs a poo.

@bobbyweirddick6556

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha

@fatfrankthepeteacher2503

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao

you could really see the disappointment in his face. hilarious and sad.

@samshah7628

3 жыл бұрын

especially when they asked about the Palace

Judging by the comments, a lot of people are treating this scene as historical fact. But I don't think there is anything to suggest that the 3 astronauts were really boring, childish, or non-philosophical. The writers of the show wanted the astronauts to contract Philip so they made them act like this and that's ok for a fictional story, but if people actually think this is an accurate recreation of the astronauts' personality than we have a serious problem. And that extends to the entire show, I think the creators should have done a lot more to clarify that this show is not historically accurate and that they flat out made up a lot of stuff when writing it.

@saanthwanak4269

2 жыл бұрын

👏 . The interviews , the way the astronauts talked that we see in videos contradicts this scene as well . This was the worst episode of the entire series

@gustavmarie

Жыл бұрын

The idea that the Apollo astraunauts didn't consider the profound and existential impact of what they did is nonsense. Some became religious. Buzz Aldrin even experienced severe depression in the realization that nothing he would do in his life after would be of such significance and this drove him to nearly a decade of alcoholism.

@costin0749

Жыл бұрын

The writers (and the viewers) aren’t concerned about the historical accuracy of the Apollo astronauts. That’s not why we tuned into this show. They are merely a tool to illustrate a larger point.

Like, like, like a thousand times!

Love it, please upload more so I can convince my friends to watch the show!

He was so disappointed

I'm watching this episode now and I feel so bad for Prince Philip, but this part is kind of funny as well. He's not getting anything that he wanted out of these men and the look on his face when they talk about the water cooler had me laughing. This turned out to be a really good episode and I really like the actor that is playing Prince Philip here. I remember him from Outlander.

@mermaidgoat9351

Жыл бұрын

God I HATED his character in Outlander! Goes to show how good of an actor he is.

My favourite scene in the entire series too (Minha cena favorita em toda a séria)

@caioarthur6926

2 ай бұрын

Sabe me dizer que episódio é esse?

@renatofigueiredo2005

2 ай бұрын

Sétimo episódio se não me engano

DON'T MEET YOUR HEROES.

Hey brutus, it's you! 🤣🤣🤣

Space is an inhospitable environment (just as the crew of Apollo 13). You can't afford to wax philosophical thoughts and lose sight of all the operational complexities of spaceflight without endangering your crew and yourself.

I think Prince Philip was expecting some profound views about the experience, but nobody would have pretty stories about your work and where you are working. Work is work, rest is passion!

Imagine coughing like that in present times

I was reminded of this scene after watching a documentary of the apollo 11 landing. There were so many protocols, unknowns, dangers, and life-or-death procedures that the men had to meticulously follow, that they would not have had anytime to just...think about life. In any moment of the mission they could have died and were under immense pressure to not further taint the USA's image in the space race. These men would have been much too focused, tired, and adrenalined to have pondered the universe.

Sometimes life isn't spectacular or miracles. It's just ordinary men doing extraordinary things. And that's marvellous

Uncle please sit...

I found this scene so stupid/inaccurate - the astronauts all had grad degrees and tons experience "chatting" as part of their public duties. Armstrong was quiet, Aldrin combative but Michael Collins had been raised all over the world and was/is outgoing/charming. Aldrin coined the term "magnificent desolation" for the moon so could certainly have expanded on landing and meaning. It made interesting TV but totally wrong from who astronauts were. I'm not a rah rah American, but still have found the Crown's portrayals of Yanks as simplistic and wrong throughout - JFK had lived in London, would not mess up intros and more importantly never hit Jackie - flaws as hubby yes, but not the heartless dick portrayed. LBJ was a wily experienced politician, not the Texas buffoon shown in series. Love the show tho!

@charlesfenwick6554

2 жыл бұрын

A perceptive analysis.

@horaciocapanelli-soto4710

2 жыл бұрын

JFK wasn’t a “heartless dick” but he certainly wasn’t “the legend” we made him out to be. I’m a registered Democrat and I believe George Bush Sr was really a great man deserving of such accolades. JFK was a guy with lots of flaws and charisma.

3:57 only just hit me, that's Connor from Primeval on the right

I have met people who have been part of amazing work or achievements and all of them had very profound and deep takes on what they had accomplished. This scene was baffling to me. These 3, even if they were analytical and completely duty first, had gone through a life altering experience, which no one had at the time. It's almost impossible that they did not have a few strong words to say on their experience. People need to employ a little more skepticism on this scene.

@MattBurrill

7 ай бұрын

Okay, but I think it was the nature of the question that embarassed them. They couldn't give Philip what he was asking for. He was asking "Did you bring God back from the moon with you?" and all they could say was "No, just a lot of moon rocks".

Sorry Philip, you’re not part of their club.

There are those of us who know exactly why they didn't have anything of substance to say.

I think Matt Smith is a great actor but Tobias Menzies did something special with his acting as Philip.

Possibly my favourite episode of the crown. I can imagine why the astronauts were the way they were, I would be if I was in Buckingham Palace for a personal audience with the late DofE. Likewise, I too can sympathise with the late DofE. Sure, he’s a royal and is aware of that but Prince Philip was for his time at least a very modern man meeting actual pioneers of a new frontier and they were more interested in him who by contrast had lived quite a mundane life especially since becoming Prince Consort. I too think I would have an existential crisis.

He should have been asking himself why the extraordinary is so often accomplished by the ordinary. I've meet real heroes and they are not larger than life. No one belongs or should be comfortable on a pedestal. If they like it, the inevitable fall will hurt even more.

They didn’t want to tell him that they filmed it in a studio

MAH BOI EDMURE

Uma das melhores cenas

-cmdr Fitzjames- Tobias Menzies really researched Prince Philip's speech mannerisms; he talks just like him.

The royal family was not convinced that a moon landing so quickly after rockets were first invented and sent into space was possible with Russians saying they will get to the moon first. The ego had a super-ego that 50+ later we are again taking our baby steps to the moon.

Prince Philip was awesome in this scene but,,, as a fan of Apollo program and being a space nerd it breaks my heart to see that they portrayed my heroes as some fools

@charlesfenwick6554

2 жыл бұрын

Made-up script.

This scene was unexpected. I imagined the wonderful things that the astronauts would tell and in the end they had a totally different perspective of the trip to the moon. While Philip was curious about them, they were curious about the palace. I honestly think they were empty people, I don't know if it's wrong or right, maybe they were busy and focused on something else, but it really is inexplicable how they couldn't show a minimum of interest, emotion and importance as people in such a special event for the human being.

@1878Devils

3 жыл бұрын

Thats why their chosen! And thats what theyre trained for! These men who go up there, they obviously need to master the art of keeping their emotional, personal matters aside and think, focus only of the Protocol!

@user-fz4vd3ne8m

3 жыл бұрын

@@1878Devils I know that, but I mean afterwards, not when they were people who should behave like one. Maybe I'm wrong as I said, but not a bit of emotion after having been to the MOON?

@1878Devils

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you! Maybe they did lack emotion! But also... its Imp to note that... Netflix made it quite clear that the crown is based on true events and the story line as a “whole” is a non fiction! But surprisingly it also states that scenes, conversations and small details maybe fictional!

@bderrick4944

Жыл бұрын

Another comment made a good point- only the privileged (eg.Prince Phillip) have the luxury of sitting around and contemplating the importance of their lives. If the astronauts had been more worried about the philosophy behind their journey than the protocol, they would have never made it back alive. At least that’s my opinion.

@ABC_DEF

Жыл бұрын

Don't you realise that The Crown is fiction and this scene is completely made up?

Maybe he should have spent some time with David Bowie and Elton John if he wanted deep discussions about space.

" uhmm. What are it like to prince..."

I just learned from this scene that Buzz Aldrin’s first name is Edwin

Correct me if i am wrong but maybe it shows how work efficient the Americans are but they don't really romanticize their works which Britishers often do.

@lolwhatidk

3 жыл бұрын

well, the way the aristocracy does anyways

@BossAttack

3 жыл бұрын

No, not at all. The scene is all about Phillip looking for answers, he's lost in a mid-life crisis and thinks these astronauts might have the answer to the point of life. They escaped Earth's mortal bounds and entered the heavens. But, they have no insight to give, just the banal cold facts of the trip that a scientist can provide. They're just human like him, they have no large answers to the questions he's asking. Now, later in life these astronauts are able to "romanticize" about their trip, but at that time it was all about completing their mission. All in all, I found this to be a great episode about a man confronting his age and lack of accomplishments he felt he should have had by this time; something we will probably all have to experience. And then learning how to move past that.

@seeriktus

3 жыл бұрын

Americans romanticise things a ton, but it tends to get reduced and packaged under a very small section of American Exceptionalism taglines that all sound the same - "Freedom" - this is the idol upon which offerings are placed.

@AstroSully

2 жыл бұрын

@@BossAttack Yep spot on! Not everyone is at a phase in their lives where they often question the meaning or purpose of life.

@hannahdyson7129

Жыл бұрын

No, we don't.

Consider having a physical conversation with someone affected with cold now a days !

Philip was expecting the masterminds behind the launch but he actually just met the glorified space monkeys. The real brains behind the curtains were the Astronomers, Physicists, Mathematicians, Chemical Engineers, Mechanical Engineers, Chemists, Computer Scientists and the rest of ground control. If he met any of these people he most likely would have been more engaged in a deeper conversation about adventuring and the future of space travel.

Huh. Filmed at Wilton?

He was super jealous lol

@attiepollard7847

3 жыл бұрын

Shit you would be too

His disappointment is written all over his face. They just accomplished the greatest achievement of mankind and all he is talking about water coolers?

That’s what you get for sending astronauts into space...

As much as I dont give two good looking frogs arses about the royals, I must admit that this is the most meaningful, profound series Netflix has to offer at the moment. I am hooked, I love it.

@juancogol

3 жыл бұрын

@Grant Bobby why the fuck would they?, i don't ever plan to lose sleep over them either. I was talking about the show. What's your point, fuckwit?

@reuben8140

3 жыл бұрын

You seem nice!

Philip had a lot of time on his hands. They didn't have time to be philosophers or poets. The technical level is what they could discuss. They couldn't understand him at all. Yet his training as a Royal Navy officer was technical -- But these guys were so far beyond him.

If the three astronauts really did bow they were wrong.

William Shatner should answer this question now

It has happened to me on more than one occasion you’re talking to somebody who has experienced what you In your mind would view as a golden opportunity something breathtaking something life altering an experience the ordinary person would relish in having To Experience for themselves but when you talk to said person you realize they just don’t see it in the same light as You also they fail To approach it with the same vigor and life as you do It can be Frustrating and disappointing as well

I wonder if this actually happened? The crew did go to Buckingham Palace and meet the Royals but did Phillip actually request a private audience with them? This was a great show, even if most of it was fiction, I really enjoyed it.

@Giulia-om2gl

2 жыл бұрын

the show was based on real events(Not always but that was the purpose) ... so I think they really met ..

@miketurcotte9108

Жыл бұрын

No, he never had a private audience with them. He did briefly meet them alongside the Queen at the Palace though. I do think the part of them having colds was actually true.

@ForeverBennett

Жыл бұрын

@@miketurcotte9108 I've seen the footage of him and the Queen meeting them at the palace. I believe the part about them having colds, they were doing a whirlwind tour of the world and shaking so many hands that they would have almost certainly caught something.

@ABC_DEF

Жыл бұрын

This scene, like all the private scenes in The Crown, is completely made up.

But there were similar kinds of life things happening in those men's lifes & his.... he also had to follow protocol & I m sure many would have wanted to be where he was. He didn't enjoy where he was at... but being able to get most amazing people & do things most people would never do.

They were on a mission, they had no time to "take it all in"... Philips having some sort of midlife crisis.

Pity, there was not a scene with Gagarin, actually, he was the first in the outer space

He should have talked to Gene Cernan.

They may have performed a world-eternal feat flawlessly, but here they fail in the task of cheering up poor Prince Philip out of his mid-life crisis. I doubt that anyone who knew them was surprised that they would turn out the way they did, doing the things they did. Sadly, that probably applies to Philip as well.

Philip hitting his midlife crisis head-on...

He should've gone with his 1st instinct and focused on technical questions. That's where these guys would really shine. Any layabout priest or philosopher can postulate about out grand place or insignificance. But it takes a special mind to be able to describe every inch of an engine, the minutia of every procedure and why they're in place.

its connor off Primeval!!

Wait, this show wants me to believe that the man who gave us "One small step for man..." had trouble understanding the grandness of the occasion?

@scribejay

Жыл бұрын

Also, hadn't Philip met Yuri Gagarin by this point?

As they imply the mission was too intense and technical to have much time for more abstract thoughts that many explorers have imparted to a wider audience.

This episode was so silly.

never meet your heroes...never peek behind that curtain(in he's case, disappointment is all he got)

I think there's a cultural irony in this scene. The British are known for their conservatism and lack of emotion. To be a "by the book" kind of people. To see this situation played out in reverse has to be a mindfuck.

This show blew it. Everyone knows that astronauts, along with ground control, are some of the brightest and most intelligent people on the planet. Remember the smartest kid in your high school? Valedictorian? Well these astronauts make him or her look like a moron. Inbred royalty is not even on the same level.

En esta escena muestran la decepción de Felipe al darse cuenta de la farsa del alunizaje. Los "astronautas" resfriados al haber estado en una piscina grabando de la mano de Kubrick la madre de las mentiras