The Crisis in Psychoanalysis

Dan Burston presents his paper, Don Carveth is discussant

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  • @Di011
    @Di01110 ай бұрын

    Dr. Carveth, thank you for being so fair on all of yoir points. We need more fair people like you in the field

  • @VigiliusHaufniensis
    @VigiliusHaufniensis10 ай бұрын

    So glad to see that Don is still doing talks, books and videos. Take care Professor, thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.

  • @doncarveth

    @doncarveth

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank you

  • @gullucicek4534
    @gullucicek453410 ай бұрын

    Dr Carveth, thank you so much for your valuable discussion. Please continue to produce more videos.

  • @doncarveth

    @doncarveth

    10 ай бұрын

    Most welcome

  • @slkim2643
    @slkim264310 ай бұрын

    Dear Dr. Carveth, Thank you for sharing this invaluable discussion.

  • @javiersantos4385

    @javiersantos4385

    10 ай бұрын

    Just another MAGA talk

  • @kotnikd3
    @kotnikd39 ай бұрын

    I have high hopes for the future of psychoanalysis. Why? Because the greatest critique of psychoanalysis is psychoanalysis itself. Thank you for the upload!

  • @kirstinstrand6292

    @kirstinstrand6292

    6 ай бұрын

    It appears to me that psychoanalysis is very much divided between the 20th century analysts and those who want to update to the 21st century.

  • @fagica
    @fagica10 ай бұрын

    Thank you for posting this symposium. As usual you did a masterful work in summarizing and explaining both your personal positions and the general thrust of psychoanalitic research across decades. If you were my student you would get an A+ with honors.

  • @doncarveth

    @doncarveth

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much!

  • @varggrav1977
    @varggrav19773 күн бұрын

    Great stuff. Thank you

  • @alizaofbrooklyn
    @alizaofbrooklyn9 ай бұрын

    so good. Thank you for posting

  • @doncarveth

    @doncarveth

    9 ай бұрын

    Most welcome

  • @123456789987o
    @123456789987o10 ай бұрын

    I think that Daniel Burston's discussion of those deleted tweets was disingenuous. If the discussion was much more focused on the actual clinical work, which would show the actual implications of CSJT for psychoanalytic practice then I think, that the discussion would have been a lot more productive. Sadly to me Lara Sheeha's actual position, method and practice was presented so vaguely, that I don't really have the impression to understand how she differs from traditional psychoanalysis or how she incorporates CSJT with analysis. It would be interesting to see her or her colleagues accused of moralism in a discussion with the people of the panel. Might be an idea for a video 😉

  • @doncarveth

    @doncarveth

    10 ай бұрын

    See the latest video by my son and I

  • @unusualpond
    @unusualpond7 ай бұрын

    Extremely valuable thank you. Particularly the segment about psychologists getting caught up in neuroscience. So fashionable these days with the Bessel Van der Kolk phenomenon. And in my experience therapists crave the authority and status of the scientist, whilst clients crave the innocence of being a victim of a disease.

  • @doncarveth

    @doncarveth

    7 ай бұрын

    Yes, very well put

  • @kirstinstrand6292

    @kirstinstrand6292

    6 ай бұрын

    See Dr. Mark Solms for evidence.

  • @henryvaughan757
    @henryvaughan75710 ай бұрын

    Don please read some Mark Solms. I promise you won't hate it, the 7 drive theory clears up so much in the traditional theory without harming it.

  • @doncarveth

    @doncarveth

    10 ай бұрын

    OK, if I’m going to take that risk, send me the best single paper by him for me to read. I mean send me the reference.

  • @kirstinstrand6292

    @kirstinstrand6292

    6 ай бұрын

    Solms has spent 20 years translating Freud's writings from German. There will be 4 volumes; I believe the first has been published. Solms is a psychoanalyst and a neuroscientist. His work is amazing on multiple levels.

  • @MA-ow1kj
    @MA-ow1kj10 ай бұрын

    Very good and thought-provoking discussion, but Dan's presentation seemed to be more about attacking Lara Sheeha and her work than addressing the question at hand, which in my view is an abuse of such great space.

  • @seymourtompkins
    @seymourtompkins9 ай бұрын

    1:04:30 damn skippy ! Well said.

  • @floydtudor-rosa5115
    @floydtudor-rosa511510 ай бұрын

    Is Dan and Dons arguments in writing anywhere? I want to reference them both.

  • @doncarveth

    @doncarveth

    10 ай бұрын

    Much of what Dan said will be published. For now, at least, mine are not.

  • @disfahani7821
    @disfahani78215 ай бұрын

    Is there a link to the paper?

  • @doncarveth

    @doncarveth

    5 ай бұрын

    You might write to Daniel Burston about this

  • @miriamshelton9155
    @miriamshelton915510 ай бұрын

    Hard to avoid noticing the menorah, positioned almost like a crown behind Dr. Burston...

  • @seymourtompkins

    @seymourtompkins

    9 ай бұрын

    Ah. Your point ?

  • @dan-arebjrngrnvik3513
    @dan-arebjrngrnvik35137 ай бұрын

    Although I agree with the firsts speakers conclusion that activism has to be kept seperate from psychoanalysis. His appeal to emotions reasoning doesn't really constitute a good to why it is the case.

  • @janglestick
    @janglestick10 ай бұрын

    what crisis? The Crisis of Psychoanalysis: Fromm, Erich

  • @REGjr
    @REGjr10 ай бұрын

    Those under the spell of an ideology have usually substituted it for an absent developmentally more-mature personally principled perspective. There's much to learn from their unawareness of their own ego weakness, and one does endeavor (mostly in vain) to remove or minimize what impediments he can for them, but I do doubt the potential of an incapacity for intersubjectivity to meaningfully participate for any benefit but their own. The feminism cited was almost certainly a personal individually benign and benefic interpretation of objective principle--which fortunately somehow exists even at all given the irrationalities original to feminism as ideology. In order to get popular support for itself feminism conflated workplace equality with gender equality (and in so-doing negated the value of motherhood entirely to avoid presenting an obvious false equivalency to the very women it was misusing by deception). So in the United States now because of so-called feminism women aren't guaranteed paid maternity leave. We are in the third consecutive generation of resented and valueless feminist mothering only to the great misfortune of Western Civilization IMO. I'm not a psychoanalyst but I do have too much respect for the tradition to not bring up a reminder of the difference between principle and ideology that seems like it could be useful to the referenced challenging state of affairs. Tolerance is highly commendable... up to only the point at which it would be used against you. It is possible to squander oneself setting an example lost on those who will mistake it for stupidity. Nothing you guys don't know, so just remember this Dr Shiha(sp?) Isn't exempt from projecting her own deficiencies just because she intellectually knows better. Frankly if she's even trying to mask I don't see it, so please don't exhaust your talents entertaining someone who will damage a profession the world needs preserved. I don't know that a dirty PR battle can be won with rationality, though if so this group will do it. FWIW I still personally think the us versus them nature of the conflict is antithetical to psychoanalytic principles (as I perhaps misunderstand them) and beneath the dignity of the tradition. Best regards

  • @doncarveth

    @doncarveth

    10 ай бұрын

    Excellent points, thank you

  • @MrZakatista
    @MrZakatista4 ай бұрын

    The idea of political psychotherapy is repulsive to me.

  • @goldbrick2563
    @goldbrick256310 ай бұрын

    1st guy speaker is tough to listen to. Adopt a conversational tone to connect to more people. Sounds like he's just reading a script like an automaton

  • @darnelldarnley7436
    @darnelldarnley743610 ай бұрын

    Flowery Polemic, but a polemic nonetheless. It is sad to see psychoanalysis descend into the Trump era "culture wars" with such an enduring lack of self awareness. Such a one eyed and tilted presentation from Daniel Burston which fails to acknowledge or address the reality of White Privilege as a shared cultural experience or his refusal to acknowledge the illegal violence and land grabs of the Israeli state which Hamas responds to. Sad to see such closed thinking and arguments enduring within the institution of psychoanalysis.

  • @kirstinstrand6292

    @kirstinstrand6292

    6 ай бұрын

    I'm not sure that psychoanalysis and geopolitics should go hand in hand. Although, who can deny that life has not grown far more complex and difficult in the 21st century. How can psychoanalysis incorporate new struggling areas into a "whole" individual identity.