At 43:23 at the Avril Dunn murder section, the one at the bar who ordrers a Malibu and lemonade is Duncan Jackson. He was actually found guilty of her murder 14 years later. How creepy that he took part in her Crimewatch reconstruction - and even spoke to the actress who played her part....!

@susannaspare2779

Жыл бұрын

Oh my god!!! Really was that him??

@countkostaki

Жыл бұрын

@@susannaspare2779 It sure was. He was found guilty 14 years later and imprisoned. He is out now

@susannaspare2779

Жыл бұрын

@@countkostaki oh dear! How long was he in prison for?

@countkostaki

Жыл бұрын

@@susannaspare2779 Life, with a minimum term of 15 years. This was in January 2000 and he killed her in 1985

@susannaspare2779

Жыл бұрын

@@countkostaki thank you Jason for the info

A guy walks around with a drugged kid and basically no one says a thing…. Unbelievable.

@StuartWhelan-up8vs

3 күн бұрын

Mad bloody times ffs

Barry Lewis case will never stop haunting me. That poor boy. 😦😦😦

@CARLIN4737

10 ай бұрын

bastards

@anthonymcken6050

9 ай бұрын

I was the same age as him when I watched the reenactment on the BBC.

@CARLIN4737

5 ай бұрын

Well yes but i feel the same way about the 2 girls. More so in fact its such a hieneus crime.

@NoxiousSubstance

2 ай бұрын

@@CARLIN4737 It's not a sympathy competition. Calm down!

Who killed Lorna Hayles?! I feel really bad for her, she tried so hard to fit in and be friendly yet she hosted a party and nobody showed up, and it took a month for anyone to realise she was dead. so sad. people are horrible.

@joshuaedwards4536

2 жыл бұрын

This is a case that the police need to re-open, and look into a lot deeper, the late-coming friends at her party, people at her workplace, and the people in the neighbourhood area itself, I'm sure that's where the answer lies.....

@dean9235

2 жыл бұрын

Yes they are

@noongourfain

Жыл бұрын

People came to the party but not the Amway sales meeting. They should reopen the case.

@Harry-fk5of

Жыл бұрын

I wonder whether she lied about going to a fashion parade/party. She could have been going out on her own to try and make friends. I only say that because the police didn't have any proof that she was at a fashion event and she also fibbed about going for a job interview to keep up appearances. Really sad

@BillericayDickie007

10 ай бұрын

Lorna seemed from the reconstruction to be an aspirational person desperate to get ahead and be looked up to; it's so tragic that someone like that only gets superficial acquaintances. Seemed like she deserved more from life than what she got...

Awww Barry Lewis...Sidney Cooke, that evil bastard.

@th8257

Жыл бұрын

And Jason swift

@CARLIN4737

10 ай бұрын

bastards

@paulanthony5274

16 күн бұрын

And he only spent 9 years in prison for an earlier murder, it's digusting.

Barry & Alison & Caroline Hogg & Susan Maxwell & Sarah Harper & Dawn Ashworth & Suzy Lamplugh & Lorna Hayles rip to them all :(

Alison Day Reconstruction is the most scariest case witnessed.

@CARLIN4737

5 ай бұрын

Mulcahy and Duffy who were serial killers and later both convicted.

Absolutely horrific ... the Barry Lewis (Solved) Alison Day (Solved & Susan Maxwell (Solved) Caroline Hogg (Solved) Sarah Harper (Solved) Maartje Tamboezer (Solved) Jason Swift (Solved) really touched me rip x

@Maz-zb9uf

2 ай бұрын

Who killed Barry and other children

@BlytheWorld1972

2 ай бұрын

@@Maz-zb9uf google it pet i am not your personal on line information service.

How could THAT (whichever member of the gang was getting depicted here) have been carrying poor Barry and never been challenged?! Defies belief. Someone could have stopped it

@fmensah8581

5 жыл бұрын

Domine , it is extremely sad that there were plenty of lost opportunities to save his life but the witnesses (wrongly) assumed they were probably father and son , TBH he looked mixed-race and perhaps eyebrows were not raised but the outcome may have been different had he been darker skinned , the alarms whether in suspicion or good intention would've been raised, it is such a tragic and sad case and his poor friends too probably felt guilty and no doubt were distraught

@dominewimbury2039

5 жыл бұрын

@@fmensah8581 yeah 😢😭

@NathanF11989

2 жыл бұрын

@@dominewimbury2039 I think the abductor being depicted here was the gang member who was murdered in prison in 1993 or so. The photofit certainly looks like him.

@Nick-Emery

2 жыл бұрын

@@NathanF11989 what's his name?

@Nick-Emery

2 жыл бұрын

@@NathanF11989 I was trying to figure out which it looked like

For those interested in victims of the Sidney Cooke gang, Barry Lewis and Jason Swift, the definitive book 'Lambs to the Slaughter' was written with access to police files and off record briefings. It gives very depth info about the gang: Barry Lewis, like pretty much all of the victims (and indeed the people in the gang), came from similar backgrounds. The gang preyed on kids with very unhappy, chaotic home lives and broken homes, knowing full well that in those cases, parents were not acting as guardians and the kids were easier to get at. Barry's father was nowhere to be seen and his mother had given up caring for Barry to another woman on their estate, only seeing him at weekends. Worryingly, when the police were investigating Barry's case, they found a flat on his estate where the walls were drenched with blood. It wasn't Barry's and it's not reported whether they found out whom it belonged to. It underlines though just how out of control crime was back then. The police also traced other men who they believe may have been at the 'sex party' when Barry was killed as far afield as Wales, Newcastle, Durham and Aberdeen. They didn't have enough evidence to proceed but another paedophile ring in Wales was broken because of the evidence they collected. Jason Swift came from a tragic background. His father was totally absent, his brothers bullied him for 'being effeminate' and his mother didn't even report the postcards she'd got to the police, despite him being reported missing. Not one of his family went to look for him. In previous years, the police had taken him home after finding him in Soho. He was also found at one point wandering round Heathrow Airport, dreaming of getting away. It was reported that most of the time during his missing period, he was being 'pimped out' by Lennie Smith around Victoria Station. The tragedy is that Lennie Smith's flat was just a few metres away from Jason Swift's sister's house. Jason seems to have been desperate to find the love he never got at home, and money to get away from his family. Jason also spent time in Southend, which is significant. It later emerged that Lennie Smith and Sidney Cooke had links to paedophiles running an appalling paedophile ring in the Shoebury area of Southend, preying on vulnerable kids from a local estate and inamusement arcades. The ring involved some local police, teachers, bus drivers and pub owners, and one unnamed man 'at the top' was said to be paying the local paedophiles to procure kids for child porn films. Drug trafficking and theft was also a major part of the ring. There's an excellent podcast about that ring, by an award winning local investigative journalist. It's called 'Shoebury's lost boys'. Tragically, it seems that the Sidney Cooke gang was just a small part of the almost industrial scale abuse of kids in 80s' Britain. Some of the Cooke gang later talked about nightclubs in London where drugged up kids were being used in sex shows, and Lennie Smith was later arrested for taking a child he was supposed to be babysitting to a sex club. We've subsequently seen other huge scandals from that time with the Lambeth kids homes abuse and the Medomsley Road Borstal scandal in Consett. Both institutions which had been infiltrated by sadistic paedophiles and nothing was done.

@treasurehunteruk9718

Жыл бұрын

Sad, but his sister took him into her home, and he stole money from her and chose to go back with the paedo's. He should have stayed with her, and rebuilt his life. He chose his own demise.

@clioflano421

7 ай бұрын

Crime watch files "Lost boys".here on YT good program.shame bout content.

@ayrshireman1314

7 ай бұрын

Brilliant book, some of it is genuinely stomach churning and not necessarily about Cooke and his gang.

@CARLIN4737

5 ай бұрын

Sidney Cooke is 96 and still seeking parole?

@Lushgirl81

3 ай бұрын

It’s sad as Jason said in his postcard that he was ok and not to worry but you get the feeling that she didn’t give a monkey’s!

I couldn't walk around an empty supermarket at night on my own with the alarm having been triggered !! I'd pap myself.... with good reason.

@mrkipling2201

3 жыл бұрын

Same here!!

@CARLIN4737

10 ай бұрын

id be locked in the safe room calling the plod.

The Jason swift story always breaks my heart he was absolutely failed by his family all he wanted was a better life the poor boy

@th8257

2 ай бұрын

So true. His life was absolutely heartbreaking. He was living in a shelter by himself by the time he was 13 because his home life was so bad. Always the same story. Kids from chaotic families make easy prey for these offenders.

Poor Jason. Not much of a life for him. Poor kid. 😢

@IanP1963

3 жыл бұрын

Tragic beyond belief!!!!

@CARLIN4737

2 жыл бұрын

terrible. thilthy bastards.

@CARLIN4737

5 ай бұрын

just poor council estate kids who sadly fell prey who i think like Barry fell prey to Cooke and his gang. Thank god they was never released. Cooke is 96 and still in jail.

Wish we had more doctors now a days , that care for thier patients , so sad to see this happen to this lovely lady 😥😥😡😡

Cheers for uploading all of these mate!

1985 is a very bizarre time. A child staying at a caravan on his own...no adult raises alarms, child goes missing, sends postcards and roaming the streets of London. Yet no family member went to the police (or adult) He’s 14. 14! Wtf!

@dk401

5 жыл бұрын

Grittier and tougher.

@ajs41

5 жыл бұрын

@Anthony Mcken Not sure it is that different, think about all the girls in Rotherham and Oxford who were abused and no-one cared very much.

@ajs41

5 жыл бұрын

@@dk401 I don't necessarily agree with that, I think in many ways it's more grittier and tougher today.

@TheOne-fe8wk

5 жыл бұрын

Neil Billy bob oh shut the fuck up. Imported crime? So all British people have suddenly become saints and no one breaks the law? If you watch enough crimewatch you will see that the majority of crime is done by white English people hahaha. Oh and the murder rate is down now. Compare it to the 90s and u will be surprised

@JC-ss7xy

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheOne-fe8wk a lot is in fact overseas crime. Personally I think that's one of the reasons the BBC killed Crimewatch. Most photofits were foreigners and I think they became embarrassed. Yes you've still British wrong uns but the mass immigration Blair experiment has failed

Scary as most of those were by serial killers! That photofit in Suzy's case is totally John Cannan.

@mrkipling2201

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely.

@CARLIN4737

10 ай бұрын

defo

@Lushgirl81

8 ай бұрын

It’s him all day long.

When I was around Barry's age, It WAS normal for 7 year old children to play outside, unsupervised, with other children. These days no.

@Lushgirl81

2 жыл бұрын

Same here. My brother and I would go off for hours.

@noongourfain

2 жыл бұрын

@@Lushgirl81yes it was normal. Especially if you were with a group of other children.

@markshaw270

2 жыл бұрын

Btw the footage in video is 1986, so how is it these days. Its still like this now, kids still play outside unsupervised.

@markshaw270

2 жыл бұрын

Btw the footage in video is 1986, so how is it these days. Its still like this now, kids still play outside unsupervised.

@CARLIN4737

2 жыл бұрын

it was your correct. I was 7 in 1979 and would play out from dawn to dusk mainly in the holidays. Playing football or out on my grifter or later chopper and bmx. In Essex. everybody knew everybody else on my estate we all looked out for each other. Not like now when you dont know your neighbours and nobody cares.

Thanks for doing all of these compilations. I was wondering if you could do a Crimewatch Years for the updates that Nick and Sue would give each episode - these are usually very well done in the 80s.

I remember the Sarah Harper one as she was from Morley, Leeds. I remember driving past a sign for Morley with my Nan and Granddad not long after she disappeared and remember us talking about it and how terrible it was that a little girl could go missing after walking 2 minutes to the local shop.

@treasurehunteruk9718

Жыл бұрын

Lesley Molseed went out for a loaf of bread at Sunday lunchtime.

Poor Jason. No parents to give a shit about him. Aged fourteen FFS! An innocent child 😭😢😢😢😢😭😭😭😭

@treasurehunteruk9718

Жыл бұрын

His sister gave him a home and he stole £75 when she went out, and chose to wander around mixing with the wrong people.

@th8257

Жыл бұрын

​@@treasurehunteruk9718 mate, you need your head looking at if you can say things like that as you clearly know nothing about Jason's life. Jason Swift came from a tragic background. His father was totally absent, his brothers bullied him for 'being effeminate' and his mother didn't even report the postcards she'd got from him to the police, despite him being reported missing. Not one of his family went to look for him when he disappeared, *including his sister*. They told police that "London was too big". In previous years, the police had taken him home after finding him in Soho. He was also found at one point wandering round Heathrow Airport, dreaming of getting away. It was reported that most of the time during his missing period, he was being 'pimped out' by Lennie Smith around Victoria Station. Between being trafficked to Croydon and Southend to be used for sex, he seems to have spent most of his time in Lennie Smith's flat. Smith seems to have convinced him that they were in some kind of relationship, which allowed him to manipulate Jason. Jason is also believed to have had mild learning difficulties which made him even more vulnerable. The tragedy is that Lennie Smith's flat was just a few metres away from Jason Swift's sister's house. Jason seems to have been desperate to find the love he never got at home, and money to get away from his family and the terrible life he had had. Jason also spent time in Southend, which is significant. It later emerged that Lennie Smith and Sidney Cooke had links to paedophiles running an appalling paedophile ring in the Shoebury area of Southend, preying on vulnerable kids from a local estate and inamusement arcades. The ring involved some local police, teachers, bus drivers and pub owners, and one unnamed man 'at the top' was said to be paying the local paedophiles to procure kids for child porn films. Jason had been trafficked there. Maybe next time do some research before coming out with nasty poison like that, when you clearly don't know anything about the case. Jason was a child who had been treated appallingly by all his family.

@Harry-fk5of

Жыл бұрын

@@treasurehunteruk9718 he was a kid and needed some decent adults around him

@treasurehunteruk9718

Жыл бұрын

@@th8257 You don't think 14 is old enough to be accountable for your actions? It is old enough to know right from wrong and when I was 14, NO-ONE could have persuaded me to hang around with paedos. Remember what James Bulger's killers were capable of doing AGED 10! Mary Bell murdered two kids when she was 11. This is well old enough to know what you are doing. There was a kid in the US recently who shot his teacher and he was six. They said they knew he was a danger and was not being correctly monitored. Kids know what they are doing from a very young age.

Pedos and child killers need feeding to crocodiles alive only its cruel to the Crocodile they do not deserve such cruel treatment! So take them and rack them instead.

John Cooper killed the Thomas siblings in Pembrokeshire, Wales. He was the man who’d appeared on Bullseye. The Pembrokeshire Murders was released in 2021 on ITV and it was excellent..

Very very weird indeed.... “The charred body of the 53-year-old, known by patients as Dr K, was found in the kitchen of her flat in Coniston Close, Hall Green, on January 22, 1986. Almost four years earlier, a close friend of the doctor, London solicitor Thomas Gleeson died in a fire in the bedroom of the same house. The body of the 40-yearold was also charred beyond recognition and could only be identified by shirt buttons and part of a shoe which survived the blaze. At an inquest into his death on March 1982, Dr Kaczmarsjka said she had known him for 17 years and he had been staying at her home when the fire broke out. The inquest decided that he had died from smoke inhalation and a verdict of death by misadventure was recorded. “

@susanblair3624

3 жыл бұрын

Very odd . Just a coincidence or something more sinister?

@danmac73

3 ай бұрын

I would love to see her case solved.

Horrific. God rest in peace. May you forever be remembered for your smiling, happy photos before life took you into the paths of those evil individuals. I remember Jason’s photo and the posters that were posted everywhere in 1985. Hearing what happened to him chills me to the bone. I hope he is at peace because what he went through was diabolical. I’ll never forget that poor lad’s face as it was plastered across newspapers and television for a long time. Rest in peace Jason, Barry and Mark and the other kids. God bless always xx

@noongourfain

Жыл бұрын

And 6-8 more lads, who's names were never released, cases never investigated due to corruption and misconduct.

@th8257

Жыл бұрын

@@noongourfain The other names were actually released. They're also detailed in the definitive book about the Sidney Cooke gang, 'Lambs to the Slaughter' and are as follows: - Michael Maughan, a young lad from a traveller family who went missing after a trip to the west end with his sister. Bailey mentioned killing "a gypsy boy" when interviewed. - an unknown lad that Bailey couldn't remember the name of. - Desmond Ingram from Highbury, a 14 year old who went missing on his way home from school. Desmond subsequently showed up, but his parents hadn't bothered to tell the police (!) and the police didn't seem to check before announcing it to the public (!) It underlined the problem with how missing kids were recorded back then. - Paul James, 16, an epileptic lad who disappear after leaving his home in Brixton to go to the west end. - Michael Monaghan, 16, disappeared from a kids home. It was later reported that Monaghan was alive and living as a homeless person but the police were unable to verify it. With regard to Vishal Mehrotra, evidence has come forward that he may have actually been taken by another paedophile gang operating in Surrey. One major suspect fled to India. Martin Allen also fits the M.O. of the Cooke gang, but the police had a number of other suspects, one of whom committed suicide shortly afterwards.

The 80s crimewatches are so dark and gritty

@CARLIN4737

2 жыл бұрын

they are proper grim.

@slinkiegirl2001

2 жыл бұрын

IT was and i thought america was the home of serial killers

@Analogue1

Жыл бұрын

Ikr

@th8257

Жыл бұрын

Very much how the 1980s actually were. Unemployment was massive and the country was grey and depressing. Britain had the highest rate of violent crime in europe at the time. It was country filled with derelict buildings, violence and a lot of misery. The Specials' song "Ghost town" was written about 80s Britain and it was very accurate.

@jaycostewart8

Жыл бұрын

Don't have nightmares.🤣🤣

41:21, this this has always been a sad story: Avaril just visited people she knew because she just wanted to talk with someone!

@treasurehunteruk9718

Жыл бұрын

To think she was killed by someone she knew and trusted and was 'friends' with, is even more heartbreaking.

@McIntyreBible

Жыл бұрын

@@treasurehunteruk9718 yea it is. I agree with your statement!

@CARLIN4737

5 ай бұрын

Very sad indeed.

@danmac73

3 ай бұрын

Didn't her killer appear in the recon?

These poor kids. Did they ever catch anyone for the murders ? So many kids murdered in 1986.

@1977Suspiria

3 жыл бұрын

All the child murders shown her were solved. The young boys were all murdered by Sidney Cook & associates of a pedophile ring. The girls Karen & Nicola were killed by Russell Bishop. Susan Maxwell, Caroline Hogg & Sarah Harper were all victims of Robert Black. Maartje Tamboezer was murdered by John Duffy & David Mulcahy who also murdered the two women Alison Day & Anne Lock whose cases also featured in this video.

@qiviutqueen5705

3 жыл бұрын

@@1977Suspiria Thank you for the reply !

@th8257

Жыл бұрын

Barry Lewis and Jason Swift were the victims of the notorious Sidney Cooke paedophile ring. Three of the young girls were killed by serial killer Robert black. maartje tamboza were killed by the "railway killers" - Duffy and Mulcahy

Wow, how could someone do such a vicious thing! Cruel

Colin Pitchfork thought he could cheat the cops, wrong!

@RetroPixels

5 жыл бұрын

he tried, he failed

@ajs41

5 жыл бұрын

@Anthony Mcken He's currently at an open prison but it hasn't been disclosed which one. He could be released in 18 months if parole is granted.

@ajs41

5 жыл бұрын

@Anthony Mcken I don't know. But I think he ought to be spending his whole life in a closed prison for what he did.

@janettemohan5056

5 жыл бұрын

www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/child-killer-colin-pitchfork-make-2717501 www.thesun.co.uk/news/4914408/murderer-colin-pitchfork-allowed-out-of-prison/

@burnleyfan11965

3 жыл бұрын

@@ajs41 Parole has been granted but hes not been released yet and the justice secretary is meant to be looking into it.Certainly as a double killer he should never be released

Two weeks ago, "Crime watch uk stories", put up a video revealing how Avril Dunn's killer appears in a CW reconstruction. Cool as a cucumber plays darts with the actress & chatting to her at the bar.

@janettemohan7739

6 ай бұрын

Yes - @countkostaki refers to this in an earlier reply. Some neck...

This is making me crazy: What does the kid on the bicycle, in the Ann Locke reconstruction, ACTUALLY say after at 1:37:34: "No I haven't. If fant tas took 'em offits" ????? if that's what the kid said....what does it mean???

@meggriffin94

10 ай бұрын

I think he says "been at my friend's house at the top of Moffats". There's a road called Moffats Lane near the station.

@noongourfain

10 ай бұрын

@@meggriffin94 THANK YOU!! This has been bothering me for years!! I thought it sounded like: "....take em off its" Meaning the air gun. There's another one if you want to try it? It's in the Trevor Thomas murder reconstruction. What does the actor playing Trevor say, right before his female bar keep says: "Those are the magic words!" What are the magic words? Crimewatch UK November 1993

@gordongaffney2930

10 ай бұрын

LOL, ya I hadn't a clue what he said either, glad someone replied.

@noongourfain

10 ай бұрын

@@gordongaffney2930 Drove me crazy! LOL!!

Any update on the Georgina Davis case (Salford)? I cannot find anything online.

@RetroPixels

5 жыл бұрын

we can't either, thats why we have it listed as unsolved

@wc6936

4 жыл бұрын

The update at the beginning of the September 1986 episode states that a woman had been charged with Georgina Davis’ murder.

Never open the door if there's coloureds outside.

Age 6 has always been too young an age to let them wander around in the streets. Fools.

Hackney area very rough wouldn't walk round there at night

@th8257

Жыл бұрын

Depends which part of hackney now. Certainly in those days, it was incredibly rough

@treasurehunteruk9718

Жыл бұрын

It was xmas and everyone was on holiday. Any other time the train station and area would have been full of people.

in the alison day case all 3 police theories were wrong,as the killers were waiting for her on the platform of hackney wick they marched her down the train tracks to the canal

@joshuaedwards4536

3 жыл бұрын

So were her killers actually on the train itself, or not?

@sami-zc1nl

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshuaedwards4536 NO joshua they were on the platform waiting for trains to arrive and looking for single females getting off ,sadly alison was on one of the trains arriving there.they never let her leave the station platform ,duffy produced a knife and told her not to scream while his mate grabbed her around the shoulder and marched her up the train trackers leading to the river lea

@joshuaedwards4536

3 жыл бұрын

@@sami-zc1nl thank you for your reply, Sami, much appreciated, this wasn't a case that I'd followed closely, so I wasn't sure about the full details, but I've googled it, and am so glad they were eventually caught, and sentenced to life, may their unfortunate victims rest in peace eternally, and their families find peace and solace one day, as for those 2 wicked evil rapist/killers, a life sentence was way too good and kind for them......

@sami-zc1nl

3 жыл бұрын

​@@joshuaedwards4536 your welcome josh,makes you wonder about capital punishment in cases like this where the evidence is clear cut and the people responsible are pure evil

@joshuaedwards4536

3 жыл бұрын

@@sami-zc1nl you're so right there, Sami, and it may sound almost controversial to some people, about capital punishment on those who unnecessarily take innocent peoples lives, but I have no issues with it, the only problem is that many people in the past lost their lives, due to a serious miscarriage of justice, and thats where the problem lies, as long as the court case trial was fair, genuine and not corrupted, crooked, or certain powers and authority was used to convict an innocent person, then maybe some of these cases do warrant such drastic actions, I know I'd be very upset, annoyed and devastated, had it happened to any of my loved ones.....

2:38:55 love the comments about "complex new technology" of DNA

@youandopenflames9756

4 жыл бұрын

That particular murder was actually the first crime ever solved using DNA, so he really meant it!

Good ratio of solved cases here.

@IanP1963

3 жыл бұрын

More unsolved though!

Barry Lewis omg sad sad

@fmensah8581

5 жыл бұрын

When you watch the reconstruction you cannot help but wonder if his killing could've been prevented as it appears there were so much opportunity to raise the alarm as it were

@mrkipling2201

3 жыл бұрын

@@fmensah8581 definitely.

@Mandystesia

Жыл бұрын

Jason Swift too, poor kid had a miserable life it seems

And perhaps Dr K came onto a younger man who did not like her advances and lost control and killed her. Else he was just a Madman looking for victims must be one of those 2 scenarios. And as we all now the evil late Robert Black killed Susan and the other poor little girls and as he drove a van the cars mentioned here were not involved.

@noongourfain

Жыл бұрын

Nasty guy......How he was caught was a wonderful stroke of luck and keen observation.

@treasurehunteruk9718

Жыл бұрын

She did use dating agencies and it appeared to be someone she let in. She did lie about her name, it said, so she may have lied about her age, too. If a man answering the advert expected a younger woman, it would have been awkward, but not enough reason to kill her.

@th8257

Жыл бұрын

I think those "they came on to me so I killed them" are the kind of fantasy arguments desperate lawyers come up with. Doesn't really happen in real life.

They never found Suzy lamplughs keys when melanie halls body was found there was a ford key in the bag.

How sad when u can't go 4 a cycle ride .with out being murdered

@treasurehunteruk9718

Жыл бұрын

There was the case of the old woman who went to post a letter at lunch time, in a village up north, and was murdered, going through a cut between houses.

Is astonishing to me they bring exhibits from murder scenes to a TV studio. I know this was before forensic science but surely they understood evidence needed to be respected. Video of them would have been enough.

@CARLIN4737

5 ай бұрын

Yes a photograph would have done.

@CARLIN4737

5 ай бұрын

Or a replica...I dont need to see the actual axe in an axe murder?

pardon my ignorance, but does "anorexia" in this region in this time period refer to anorexia nervosa, or simple anorexia (as could be a consequence of chemotherapy, a stomach disorder, etc)?

@Mandystesia

4 жыл бұрын

Would be anorexia nervosa

Barry was killed by Sidney Cooke's gang as well as Jason swift

1;45;0.5 people were proper skinny in the 80s.

2.26 John Cannan

that flat is suzy lamplugh flat on disraeli rd putney.

@IanP1963

3 жыл бұрын

Yes that's what CW said

Alison should have got a taxi from her house and get her man to pay that’s what ma mrs does 🤨

@mrkipling2201

3 жыл бұрын

@@JayKhwaja I know!! Fancy making his girlfriend walk around a place she didn’t know at that time in that weather.

@JayKhwaja

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrkipling2201 Not to mention how dangerous Hackney Wick was at the time and still is to this day.

@sell3100

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrkipling2201 The boyfriend probably couldn't leave or wasn't allowed to leave his work place to meet Alison. He has no doubt lived with a horrible sense of guilt ever since and doesn't need judgement from anyone. Alison did nothing wrong by catching the train, she was just minding her own business and she had the misfortune of meeting those two psychopaths.

@michaelord988

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I thought

@treasurehunteruk9718

Жыл бұрын

I think she should have just stayed at home! It was xmas and a freezing cold night, and the holiday time. She should have stayed in with her parents, enjoyed xmas time with them, and met him the next day. He was working anyway, so their rendezvous could have waited until tomorrow and during the day light.

1:25:56 This is so sad. This poor guy. He lived with a wealthy doctor family for 4 years then was returned to poverty. He wasn't happy there. That's why he left. His sister obviously didn't care about him since they never reported him missing or called the police when he called there. Why didn't he go back to the doctor family? So, so sad. What a waste of a potentially great life.

@mrkipling2201

3 жыл бұрын

Dr Barnados is a care home.

@th8257

Жыл бұрын

Dr Barnado's is the name of a charity that runs care homes. You're right about how his family neglected him though. His father was totally absent, his brothers bullied him for 'being effeminate', his mother didn't even report the postcards she'd got to the police, despite him being reported missing. Not one of his family went to look for him. In previous years, the police had taken him home after finding him in Soho. He was also found at one point wandering round Heathrow Airport, dreaming of getting away. It was reported that most of the time during his missing period, he was being 'pimped out' by Lennie Smith as a child prostitute around Victoria Station. The tragedy is that Lennie Smith's flat was just a few metres away from Jason Swift's sister's house. Jason also spent time in Southend, which is significant. It later emerged that Lennie Smith and Sidney Cooke had links to paedophiles running an appalling paedophile ring in Shoebury, preying on vulnerable kids from a local estate. The ring involved some local police, teachers, bus drivers and pub owners, and one unnamed man 'at the top' was said to be paying the local paedophiles to procure kids for child porn films. Drug trafficking and theft was also a major part of the ring.

@treasurehunteruk9718

Жыл бұрын

@@th8257 His sister took him in and offered him a home.

Anyone have any info on the Steve widnall murder in Putney supermarket? I’m looking online and can’t find ANYTHING. It says it’s solved though

@RetroPixels

5 жыл бұрын

If you watch Redcard74s episode from April 1986 they announce that people have been charged. we used that as our result for putting solved

@RetroPixels

5 жыл бұрын

we've done some more digging. and found the attached article www.blackkalendar.nl/content.php?key=10616&termRef=Stanley%20Braithwaite

@TheOne-fe8wk

5 жыл бұрын

Retro Pixels thank you. Says they were coked up and they even had the balls to go and rob another place straight after. Nutjobs, all out of prison now somewhere living their life’s. Madness

@JC-ss7xy

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheOne-fe8wk it makes you wonder 30 odd years ago with sentences served if these people are living amongst us.

@treasurehunteruk9718

Жыл бұрын

@@JC-ss7xy The killer should not have been released. The poor man was earning an honest living and being shot in the back, and they didn't even get any money.

1.02.50 is that Marina crabing down the road? Its had a bad accident.

@23hublock1

5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha the most observant comment! I suspect it had just left the factory lol :-)

@janettemohan7739

6 ай бұрын

Clarkson possibly dropped a piano on it during an episode of "Top Gear".

Any theories on who murdered Che Keng Fung?

All Sydney Cooke monster

24:55 it's Dennis Taylor lol

I’d look deeper into the man in the pub. The fire talk is to coincidentally

I feel very sorry for the family of Kevin Hicks, the 16 year old who went missing in Croydon in March 1986. His case was due to appear on Crimewatch but was removed when the Suzy Lamplugh case happened. Part of the now well known media bias - they massively prioritised cases if they involved female, white, preferably middle class people. Kevin hasn't been seen since and the police believe he had been groomed and murdered. His case was part of a string of disappearances and potential murders in the Croydon area in the 80s involving teenage boys, including Reece Collins and the more famous Lee Boxell case.

@clioflano421

7 ай бұрын

Ye I heard of Rachel Nikkel but not Jasmine Basset & her child.same reason as u pointed out.

@CARLIN4737

5 ай бұрын

Yep white middle class like most of the media and in particular the BBC.@@clioflano421

are they really bare handed handling evidence on a tv show???

@Mandystesia

4 жыл бұрын

I thought that too a lot was the real evidence!

@Mandystesia

4 жыл бұрын

No DNA then maybe that's why

@JC-ss7xy

2 жыл бұрын

Ironically the guy was caught through DNA. Creepily he appeared in the reconstruction

@treasurehunteruk9718

Жыл бұрын

They got the evidence they needed off it and put it on file, or it's a replica and not the real one.

I live a ten minute walk from where Diane Sindall was murdered and in 1999 my flat window overlooked that exact spot. Every day I drive past the monument to her on my way to work. So cruelly taken. All the poor girl did was take a wrong turn after breaking down. Rest in peace

@simonc4764

5 жыл бұрын

That stretch of road have not changed much at all in the last 33yrs. The run down alleyway were the body was discovered all those years ago remain exactly the same state today as it was then, it probably still have the same bits of rubbish that was there on that dreadfull day. Its a painfully sad reminder commuting to and from work almost every day.

@janettemohan5056

4 жыл бұрын

Alleyway (or "jigger", as they are known on West Merseyside) to the left of the photo. xgress.com/p/5c223685816b24316363ab5c

@mrkipling2201

3 жыл бұрын

She probably should have asked those joiners who were working late for help.

@treasurehunteruk9718

Жыл бұрын

I live close to where Suzy Lamplugh went missing and Jill Dando was murdered.

Can be one of the killers here in comments?? I bet. Sad poor kids innocent womens 🙏

What the hell is going on, over there? Why arecthey killing children so much? And why in the hell do they allow their children, to walk those driwy roads by themselves?

@th8257

Жыл бұрын

This was nearly 40 years ago. In the 1980s, Britain had the highest rate of violent crime in europe. The country was going through a very turbulent time with massive unemployment and poverty. But the recent enquiry into historic sex abuse has shown that (like many, many other countries) child abuse was rampant. A mixture of public naivety, incomprehension, deference to authority and Shame culture, mixed in with a lot of historic poverty that led to chaotic and dysfunctional families, led to a lot of child abuse and people getting away with it.

@treasurehunteruk9718

Жыл бұрын

@@th8257 You keep saying this on every page. What is the evidence? No poverty or child abuse in the rest of Europe? I doubt it!!!!

The killer was caught in 1990 name Blake died in prison

@treasurehunteruk9718

Жыл бұрын

Which killer???? There are several murder cases in this video!!!!

@CARLIN4737

10 ай бұрын

good

Serial killer John Cooper shot brother and sister Helen and Richard Thomas. He was a madman.

How is it now weird to be carrying the boy...

@soulbrother61

5 жыл бұрын

When was the last time that you seen a scruffy man carrying a drugged up boy ?

@ratedrbeboparcade

5 жыл бұрын

The scumbags gave barry 6 year old poppers and horse tranquilliser and then he was raped by up to 8 men before he was murder like mark tildesley and jason swift information from the Coroners report ... (Leslie Bailey) was their in all three rapes

@IvorGrumble

5 жыл бұрын

@@soulbrother61 He meant now is it 'not' weird.

@CARLIN4737

2 жыл бұрын

its just strange that a white man should be carrying any boy especially a black boy 3 miles down the road. Alarm bells should have been ringing. That of the police. Bastards. I hope they all rot in hell.

Awful how crimes like these happened many unsolved.

Sounds like the bearded man who was looking at the big farmhouse could have been the same man who Richard Thomas met in the cinema??

@th8257

Жыл бұрын

The case is solved, and there was no connection there. They were murdered by serial killer John Cooper, who killed and raped several others and is perhaps most well known because he appeared as a contestant on "bullseye"

@karaboudjan6646

Жыл бұрын

Might well have been but a john Cooper was found guilty of these murders along with 2 other killings.

It's not a crime to be gay...is this how we were back then a can't remember

Reenactment for the first case, the kid is like 5 feet tall. Looks like a 12-13 year old not 6.

Does anyone know if the guy who jumped out on the old woman and did the “war dance” (or what looks like pulling a face at her) ended up being confirmed as John Duffy and David Mulcahy? They were the killers of the girl and I want to know if that was just some random weirdo or if it was one of them. And why? Lol

@mrkipling2201

3 жыл бұрын

Good question!!

@JayKhwaja

3 жыл бұрын

I think it was John Duffy

@th8257

Жыл бұрын

It was David Mulcahy

@treasurehunteruk9718

Жыл бұрын

They were both two complete psychos, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was one of them.

It's good quality copy

Anne, Maartija and Alison were killed by the same two men.

What is the value of a pink ball in snooker?

@1977Suspiria

3 жыл бұрын

6

@CARLIN4737

2 жыл бұрын

11

"Discarded proofs of girlie magazines" Unt books c

Richard and Helen Thomas were murdered by a Labourer who was also done for two other murders.

@th8257

Жыл бұрын

John Cooper, the notorious serial killer who was also well known for having appeared as a contestant in "Bullseye"

@TProfileG

Жыл бұрын

@@th8257 dangerous guy

@treasurehunteruk9718

Жыл бұрын

The sister was a church goer and the brother was having sexual relations with men in his car.

@janettemohan7739

6 ай бұрын

. Jim Bowen : "I believe you've got an unusual hobby, John." John Cooper: "Yes, Jim - I murder people."

@09weenic

9 күн бұрын

@@janettemohan7739super smashing great 😂

A guy named Sullivan confessed to the Diane Sindall murder but was apparently a serial confessor and then retracted this one. He'd apparently confessed to crimes he never did. Anyone know if he served time?

@janettemohan5056

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, I know about this one. www.blackkalendar.nl/content.php?key=33487&termRef=Peter%20Sullivan I was working as a Care Supervisor in Wirral at the time. After this murder, all the work schedules were changed to ensure that our Care Assistants - most of whom were female - could get home in daylight.

@davidmiller1215

2 жыл бұрын

Yes He Did His Brother Was Our Nieghbour Suddenly Moved House

This has to be one of the worst carrying a black kid around and no one thought to say anything

@fmensah8581

4 жыл бұрын

If the roles were reversed, you & I know the police would've definitely been called!

@joshuaedwards4536

3 жыл бұрын

@@fmensah8581 Agreed 💯%

@labazs1964

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshuaedwards4536 wasn't the driver who gave a lift a school inspector they said? surely a person who deals with children would have called the police over it? the sick individuals turned out to be a padeo ring who got kids drugged them like the one shown in reconstruction then raped them it was horrific what they did to them

@joshuaedwards4536

3 жыл бұрын

@@labazs1964 if that's the case, then that truly is disgusting and unacceptable, especially someone in such a trusted position, something that would never happen today, it just seems strange back then that nobody seemed to see it as odd or strange that a man is carrying around a young boy in his arms, kids can walk by themselves at such an age, and dont need any assistance, he also appeared to be sleepy, due to whatever substance was administered to him, the man wouldnt allow anyone near the boy, silent and acting defensive, all this was in the pre-mobile phone era, such a shame that those sick disgusting less than human being committed atrocious acts upon innocent children, time and time again, may those innocent souls rest in eternal perfect peace, and may those sick paedophile murderers roast in hell fire endlessly.....♨️♨️🔥🔥🔥🔥

@CARLIN4737

2 жыл бұрын

unbelievable.

Hackney is East London , not North

@ajs41

5 жыл бұрын

Interestingly, it often used to be described as north London in previous years, maybe because it's next to Islington which is often describred as north London.

@misscritique84

5 жыл бұрын

@@ajs41 Ive lived in Hackney for 29 years always known it to be referred to as East London, Maybe Pre 1989 when I moved there it was called N London...It definitely is not now.

@ajs41

5 жыл бұрын

@@misscritique84 I've read books published in the 70s and 80s when Hackney was referred to as North London. I don't live in London but I went to see a play at the Hackney Empire about 5 years ago. Nice people in that area.

@misscritique84

5 жыл бұрын

@@ajs41 Thats what Im saying I moved into Hackney in 89 and it was always referred to as EAST so before that it could well of been called NORTH

@TheOne-fe8wk

5 жыл бұрын

misscritique66 Londoners will usually call hackney east London. Technically it is north-east London. What’s weird is we have a north-west postcode(Willesden, Stonebridge camden Etc) but we don’t have a north-east postcode. But hackney is pretty north if you consider the fact Islington (north) is next to Camden with with north west and hackney is east of Islington. So long story short it is considered east london by everyone BUT technically it’s north-east London and could be considered part of north London

I think naughty things about Sue Cook

@09weenic

9 күн бұрын

That’s because you are one sick bastard 😃

the unpronounceable doctor has the cannan m.o. there is footage of him at a dating agency and mr kipper was carrying champagne when he was seen with suzie lamplugh.

@treasurehunteruk9718

Жыл бұрын

Would he be interested in a wrinkled old Polish woman who smoked her head off? Suzy was ultra glamorous. She would also have been a lot older than Cannan. Doesn't look like his type.

@MsVanorak

Жыл бұрын

@@treasurehunteruk9718 he wasn't looking for a long term romance!

@treasurehunteruk9718

Жыл бұрын

@@MsVanorak He was quite handsome and I don't think he would be interested in a woman old enough to be his mother.

@MsVanorak

11 ай бұрын

@@treasurehunteruk9718 i don't think so and the smell of the bullshit would have been quite off-putting.

THE DEVIL IS ON EARTH .

smelly Bob ?

👍

01:36:57 This is creepy as fuck

1:01:25 is that a flat screen tv in 1986? What is this wizardy?

@legomindstormsfan1

Жыл бұрын

It's a projection tv

0r hot grease fat in a water bottle

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@pomcene7131

3 жыл бұрын

Why did they kill :(

Weirdo alert

i have an axe and an empty bottle of champagne AND keys right in my kitchen in front of me ,,,, dont tell anybody !!!!!

@robinfereday6562

7 ай бұрын

Moron

At 43:23 at the Avril Dunn murder section, the one at the bar who ordrers a Malibu and lemonade is Duncan Jackson. He was actually found guilty of her murder 14 years later. How creepy that he took part in her Crimewatch reconstruction - and even spoke to the actress who played her part....!

@daveb6075

4 жыл бұрын

Jason Lightoller really?!? That’s insane!!!

@countkostaki

4 жыл бұрын

Dave B Yes absolutely. If you Google Duncan Jackson Avril Dunn you will see him 15 years after this reconstruction

@dominewimbury2039

4 жыл бұрын

😱

@michaelc3051

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, the nerve of the guy to take part in the reconstruction. If obviously thought it would look suspicious if he didn't participate. He was caught via DNA evidence in 2000.

@NathanF11989

2 жыл бұрын

@@countkostaki He even bears something of a resemblance to the videofit shown later on.

All Sydney Cooke monster