Crimewatch Redux - The Murder of Christoph Schliack (1989)
Two CWUK videos focusing on the murder of the eccentric Christoph Schliack at his home in Shepherd's Bush on Monday 18th September 1989
1 - CWUK reconstruction on the murder from the December 1989 edition
2 - Crimewatch FIle on how the cased was solved broadcast in Sep 1994
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Older crime shows are still the best.
@th8257
Жыл бұрын
I'm sure the victims are thrilled!
@448bubble
11 ай бұрын
I'm loving these!
I love the way you have put them all together . I don’t like having to search for other episodes so I really thank you for making these available in one location Thank you
So sad, that poor man didn’t deserve that, the thug that killed him in such an horrific way should have been locked up for the rest of his life
What a sad ending to this lovely man's life . May you rest in peace Christof.
@abigailfreeman715
11 ай бұрын
Sadly, taking strange men back to his apartment, was his undoing. Seems he had a drink problem, and made poor judgement. It’s a pity, because he was an intelligent, harmless, lonely man.
@glamdolly30
11 ай бұрын
@@abigailfreeman715 Yes it's a common theme with lonely, middle aged gay men sadly. I just saw the similar case of a headmaster tortured and killed by two rent boys. They too served paltry prison terms and were back on the streets in just a few years. Horrific to think they are likely walking free right now.
@abigailfreeman715
11 ай бұрын
@@glamdolly30 yes, I am just watching that episode of Ron Harrison. Very sad. Typically gay men feel they need to hide their sexuality, and so invite dodgy people into their homes, when it would be safer to visit a brothel. I can’t imagine being home, and inviting strangers inside for relations. Such a risky business. Your home is your haven, and you should never invite the devil in.
Thank you for uploading this, I look forward to watching the other redux versions too. Genuinely appreciated, I need diversion at the minute.
@futureisgosub
3 жыл бұрын
Will be uploading more shortly
@priteshpatel1312
3 жыл бұрын
@@futureisgosub we need the missing Crimewatch files
I love these old episodes!
Only discovered your channel a couple of days ago, I'm loving these 'full' Crimewatch stories, they are incredibly well made. I like how you've 'stitched' the original Crimewatch coverage onto the start too. Thankyou for your hard work. As for this episode, six years? That's an absolute insult.
Thanks for posting these. I’m really enjoying them .
There is very little information online about Schliach’s death and where there is, it is presented with a variety of spellings and renderings of his name and as an “unsolved”, likely homophobic, murder from days gone by. Turns out they did catch the guy, but the punishment didn’t fit the crime. Thank you for uploading this so that what happened to Schliach is on record today.
@TF80s
Жыл бұрын
Six years for that animal was a disgrace...I'd love to get a follow up on all the crimes he's commited since getting released. I'd say the list is endless.
@glamdolly30
11 ай бұрын
@@TF80s Agreed, British justice is a joke - if he'd committed this murder in America he'd have died in prison - exactly as he should. He will always be dangerous.
Thank you for posting!
He seems like a really interesting and unique man. I love eccentric people. Also, I'm sad he didn't get to finish reading Oblomov, its a wonderful book!!
@Peter-ix1ym
10 ай бұрын
I will try and find the book and give it a read
So...he was released 28 years ago... Wonder if he ended up back inside or dead.
Shame none of his colleagues or boss questioned him why he was always off work. first sign of an addiction that always wanting time of work. it's a sign of a gambling, alcohol or drug addiction.
@hmq9052
Жыл бұрын
Yes but everyone went to the pub in the afternoon back then. It wasn't considered a drink problem. More a run of the mill activity
@th8257
Жыл бұрын
A sign of how much things have changed. Easy to forget that this was last century. People were much more judgemental and condemnatory back then, and there was a huge stigma to mental health issues. And a lot of people were borderline alcoholics themselves! Heavy drinking was pretty much accepted.
@italianstallion9170
Жыл бұрын
@@th8257 especially law and financial industry..
Some of the acting by the witnesses is exceptionally naturalistic.
@544CampStreet
11 ай бұрын
The recreations are splendid and it almost feels like a cop show. The production is really well done. Naturalistic is the perfect description.
Six years what a joke!
@2icelollys1goat
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I couldn't fathom this. Should've got 40 not 6
These are quality. Please do some more
@ajs41
Жыл бұрын
The individual Crimewatch shows and Crimewatch File programmes are also available.
Discusting 6 years he was a nice guy schliak he was a harmless eccentric who was probably was lonely disgraceful 6 years. Price of shit that Hamilton
Pity no photo of the killer.
A police woman sees a man walking towards her with blood on his face and clothes and does nothing? Surely that is gross incompetence. I hope that she was at least disciplined for this neglect of duty.
@meredithisme3752
Жыл бұрын
Female cops unfortunately aren't there on merit
@cynthiatolman326
Жыл бұрын
I agree, an officer has an obligation to step up when they come onto a situation like this. To see a man covered in blood and not ask him what happened boggles my mind, She could have led to the solving of the murder, if doing nothing more than alerting on duty police about him immediately. I'm thinking he would have run, but good chance they'd have caught him due to his injury.
@scallopohare9431
Жыл бұрын
She was off duty, and he could have simply had a nosebleed. No, we do not stop passers by just because they look odd.
@ShaneBulls
Жыл бұрын
She WAS OFF duty.!!
@rs-qt1qg
8 ай бұрын
@@ShaneBullsa police officer is never off duty. If they witness something happening they have to step in. Just like a doctor is never off duty.
Have they increased sentences since the 90s at all? Because only 6 years for this?! and according to the dates at the end, he only did 3!! That's really quite shockingly little.
So they did find the killer of Christoff, I wasn't sure as I never followed up this case back then, but am so glad justice was done eventually.....
@ginaryan2093
3 жыл бұрын
Yes they did.
@joshuaedwards4536
3 жыл бұрын
@@ginaryan2093 thanks for the update, and I'm so glad to hear that justice was truly done once again
@ginaryan2093
3 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaedwards4536 well it wasn’t exactly justice - actually the outcome is revealed later on in this video as you’re probably by now aware.
@neilt4723
2 жыл бұрын
Justice? Stabbed to death 22 times and manslaughter?? joke of a verdict wasn’t it
@joshuaedwards4536
2 жыл бұрын
@@neilt4723 thank you for updating me on this case, and yes, that's DISGUSTING, 22 xs, premeditated murder more like, should've locked the piece of sh*t up for life
6 years for brutally stabbing to death a man? What terrible injustice!
As soon as they said flamboyant man I knew he’d be gay.
@th8257
Жыл бұрын
It was one of the unpleasant 'code words' they used back then. Society was hugely homophobic.
My old haunt lived there!
At 41:00 they gave him a cigarette, while questioning him. When he refused to give a hair or blood sample, and he left, surely they could have tested the cigarette butt he left in the ashtray.
@eadweard.
11 ай бұрын
Not sure if possible with the technology at the time. Plus the cigarette might have been poetic licence for the reconstruction.
@abigailfreeman715
11 ай бұрын
@@eadweard. agree, but the police commentator said that he asked for a cigarette, and they obliged in a hope to relax him.
These cases, now over 30 years old, are horrific - not least because in most cases the guilty served such short prison terms for killing people, and if still alive, are walking free today. So much police and legal work (and money) went into catching and convicting the killers, for such paltry penalties. In America. these scumbags would never see the light of day again, but would die in prison - and quite right too. How the hell is stabbing an unarmed man 23 times manslaughter?! It's clearly murder. If I was evil enough to do that to someone, there's no way I would expect anything other than a life sentence! Poor Christoph paid the ultimate price for trusting a stranger. Loneliness kills. God bless him - he did not get justice, the monster who stole his life from him should have died in a locked cage. This case reminds me of another Crimewatch case from around 1990 - also London. Retired, middle-aged gay headmaster Ron Harrison, who was tortured and killed by two rent boys. They too served ridiculously short prison sentences (I think 8 years), for their horrific violence against a vulnerable man who invited them into his home.
@JayJay-nr2gk
8 ай бұрын
Yeah it does remind me of ron Harrison to especially how smart he dressed they died in similar ways to
Fascinating!
They certainly dance around the fact that he isn’t all that keen on women.
@sarahholland2600
Жыл бұрын
Not really. They used the word 'flamboyant' less than 1 minute in. Tactful word for gay back then.
@justinparkerthewildwolf6394
Жыл бұрын
He's gay . They said he's gay
If this was in court today he would of got life.
@sarahpiaggio2693
11 ай бұрын
Yes, I was going to say, a 6 year sentence which was in practice a 3 year sentence for such a crime is a real insult to the victim and I hope they've increased sentences now
Nick Ross looks young.
@carolinemcgovern8059
Жыл бұрын
Went to Queens University, Belfast. Contemporaneous photos make him look like he should still be in school :) Good genes?
@th8257
Жыл бұрын
In fairness, it is 34 years ago. We all looked younger 34 years ago.
They could of got DNA from the cigarette Hamilton extinguished in the ashtray in prison at the fist interview. Only saying...
@th8257
Жыл бұрын
DNA technology back then was very primitive, sadly. So many of the cases in 80s Crimewatch would have been solved very quickly nowadays.
@vivienneandersson6019
7 ай бұрын
Could have
0:53 since when does requesting afternoons off from work constitute a drink problem?
He probably would have been a fantastic barrister, but the xenophobic old dinosaurs didn't allow that.
@Lushgirl81
Жыл бұрын
Silly reasons as to why he couldn’t practice!
@CHALCEDON-edu
Жыл бұрын
How could he have become a barrister? He was a lazy and unreliable employee and a drunk to boot.
@sarahpiaggio2693
11 ай бұрын
@@CHALCEDON-edu Maybe chicken and egg: a lazy, alcoholic unreliable employee BECAUSE he couldn't fulfill his potential (?)
Why do people always confuse "memory" with storage? The iPhone doesn't have "up to 512GB of memory"
The policemen who take part in these reconstructions are always such lousy actors, bless 'em!
What is " very nolivadule " ?
Could've got his DNA from the cigarette he was offered & left behind in the Mount joy interview.🚬
@eadweard.
11 ай бұрын
Not sure if possible with the technology at the time. Plus the cigarette might have been poetic licence for the reconstruction.
I was going for a drink so the fact that a guy covered in blood passed me ,n!!!!!!!!
Somebody, get that landlord a bra!
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rip christoph so sad
Why does he remind of the tv charcter Poirot
An interesting snapshot into homophobia of the time, both in the verdict, and to a lesser extent the way the police dealt with and spoke about the case. It wasn't a 'homosexual murder', it was a 'homophobic murder'.
Serves the man right
@tosspot1305
Жыл бұрын
Why?
@donny121able
Жыл бұрын
Clearly more of a man than you will ever be.
So he was gay.
Wat e spitting phelmp I'm in shop with white short most don't like homasexuals but these days the laws not ie whatever CNT say nothung bt gays lesbians transvestites homasexuals Cs its allowed now
He should have stayed at work and not lied about his drinking problem . A sad man whose talents were wasted .
The copper described it as a "homosexual murder" which he said meant he "had a real problem on his hands" homosexual murders obviously being much more problematic than your bog standard hetro murder. The good ole days eh.
@IvorGrumble
Жыл бұрын
Like black people and women, gay people were always treated like shit by the police so they didn't really talk to the police as they didn't trust them, and rightly so. This is probably why it would have been problematic, albeit the police's fault in the first place.
@Purewood357
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 we miss the 80s n 90s
@2icelollys1goat
Жыл бұрын
@@IvorGrumbleThat's a bold stereotype - and a massive generalisation, that basically makes all coppers out to be bastards. I was an officer and treated people equally. You sound very bitter, sadly.
@anglodoomer5995
Жыл бұрын
But it was true
@donny121able
Жыл бұрын
He was referring to the fact he could be having many homosexual emcounters making it hard to pin down a suspect.
really manslaughter
Aah UK yeah they don't believe in consequences
@tosspot1305
Жыл бұрын
Unless you offend someone on the Internet
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1992, good homophobic jury you had there. UK justice isn't justice
@Purewood357
Жыл бұрын
Pansy justice
A naked raving homosexual approaches a man. Man defends himself and gets locked up
@suzimonkey345
Жыл бұрын
“raving homosexual”??? Where did you get “raving” from? If people were allowed to kill anyone who came-on to them there wouldn’t be many people left! …so basically he murdered a man for being naked & you don’t think he should have been “locked up”???
@suzimonkey345
Жыл бұрын
There’s a word for fear of homosexuals & it’s NOT a legal defence for murder…although some lawyers in the USA have tried it!
@TF80s
Жыл бұрын
We only have his word for the fact that the guy came onto him..more likely the murderer was a repressed homosexual himself who took his self hatred out on a poor innocent man who wouldn't have hurt a fly.
@nudisco300
Жыл бұрын
Secretly watch gay porn when the missus ain't around Steve? You doth protest too much.
@dawnb3194
Жыл бұрын
…… so the ‘man’ said - that ‘man’ who was only there to rob the victim. A convenient defence in my opinion. He got off very lightly imo 😡
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