Crimewatch Redux - The Murder of Christoph Schliack (1989)

Two CWUK videos focusing on the murder of the eccentric Christoph Schliack at his home in Shepherd's Bush on Monday 18th September 1989
1 - CWUK reconstruction on the murder from the December 1989 edition
2 - Crimewatch FIle on how the cased was solved broadcast in Sep 1994

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  • @bettydamnboop3030
    @bettydamnboop3030 Жыл бұрын

    Older crime shows are still the best.

  • @th8257

    @th8257

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm sure the victims are thrilled!

  • @448bubble

    @448bubble

    11 ай бұрын

    I'm loving these!

  • @DarkStar-wu9nq
    @DarkStar-wu9nq11 ай бұрын

    I love the way you have put them all together . I don’t like having to search for other episodes so I really thank you for making these available in one location Thank you

  • @maxine4898
    @maxine489811 ай бұрын

    So sad, that poor man didn’t deserve that, the thug that killed him in such an horrific way should have been locked up for the rest of his life

  • @johnryan2193
    @johnryan2193 Жыл бұрын

    What a sad ending to this lovely man's life . May you rest in peace Christof.

  • @abigailfreeman715

    @abigailfreeman715

    11 ай бұрын

    Sadly, taking strange men back to his apartment, was his undoing. Seems he had a drink problem, and made poor judgement. It’s a pity, because he was an intelligent, harmless, lonely man.

  • @glamdolly30

    @glamdolly30

    11 ай бұрын

    @@abigailfreeman715 Yes it's a common theme with lonely, middle aged gay men sadly. I just saw the similar case of a headmaster tortured and killed by two rent boys. They too served paltry prison terms and were back on the streets in just a few years. Horrific to think they are likely walking free right now.

  • @abigailfreeman715

    @abigailfreeman715

    11 ай бұрын

    @@glamdolly30 yes, I am just watching that episode of Ron Harrison. Very sad. Typically gay men feel they need to hide their sexuality, and so invite dodgy people into their homes, when it would be safer to visit a brothel. I can’t imagine being home, and inviting strangers inside for relations. Such a risky business. Your home is your haven, and you should never invite the devil in.

  • @Paddyboro
    @Paddyboro3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for uploading this, I look forward to watching the other redux versions too. Genuinely appreciated, I need diversion at the minute.

  • @futureisgosub

    @futureisgosub

    3 жыл бұрын

    Will be uploading more shortly

  • @priteshpatel1312

    @priteshpatel1312

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@futureisgosub we need the missing Crimewatch files

  • @suzimonkey345
    @suzimonkey345 Жыл бұрын

    I love these old episodes!

  • @annonimouse170
    @annonimouse1706 ай бұрын

    Only discovered your channel a couple of days ago, I'm loving these 'full' Crimewatch stories, they are incredibly well made. I like how you've 'stitched' the original Crimewatch coverage onto the start too. Thankyou for your hard work. As for this episode, six years? That's an absolute insult.

  • @francescaruby1150
    @francescaruby1150 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for posting these. I’m really enjoying them .

  • @fourlanterns1405
    @fourlanterns1405 Жыл бұрын

    There is very little information online about Schliach’s death and where there is, it is presented with a variety of spellings and renderings of his name and as an “unsolved”, likely homophobic, murder from days gone by. Turns out they did catch the guy, but the punishment didn’t fit the crime. Thank you for uploading this so that what happened to Schliach is on record today.

  • @TF80s

    @TF80s

    Жыл бұрын

    Six years for that animal was a disgrace...I'd love to get a follow up on all the crimes he's commited since getting released. I'd say the list is endless.

  • @glamdolly30

    @glamdolly30

    11 ай бұрын

    @@TF80s Agreed, British justice is a joke - if he'd committed this murder in America he'd have died in prison - exactly as he should. He will always be dangerous.

  • @suzimonkey345
    @suzimonkey345 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for posting!

  • @uggggggghhhhh
    @uggggggghhhhh11 ай бұрын

    He seems like a really interesting and unique man. I love eccentric people. Also, I'm sad he didn't get to finish reading Oblomov, its a wonderful book!!

  • @Peter-ix1ym

    @Peter-ix1ym

    10 ай бұрын

    I will try and find the book and give it a read

  • @mytartanbahrain
    @mytartanbahrain Жыл бұрын

    So...he was released 28 years ago... Wonder if he ended up back inside or dead.

  • @swineheartdoppleganger5516
    @swineheartdoppleganger5516 Жыл бұрын

    Shame none of his colleagues or boss questioned him why he was always off work. first sign of an addiction that always wanting time of work. it's a sign of a gambling, alcohol or drug addiction.

  • @hmq9052

    @hmq9052

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes but everyone went to the pub in the afternoon back then. It wasn't considered a drink problem. More a run of the mill activity

  • @th8257

    @th8257

    Жыл бұрын

    A sign of how much things have changed. Easy to forget that this was last century. People were much more judgemental and condemnatory back then, and there was a huge stigma to mental health issues. And a lot of people were borderline alcoholics themselves! Heavy drinking was pretty much accepted.

  • @italianstallion9170

    @italianstallion9170

    Жыл бұрын

    @@th8257 especially law and financial industry..

  • @Spectrescup
    @Spectrescup Жыл бұрын

    Some of the acting by the witnesses is exceptionally naturalistic.

  • @544CampStreet

    @544CampStreet

    11 ай бұрын

    The recreations are splendid and it almost feels like a cop show. The production is really well done. Naturalistic is the perfect description.

  • @elkehassell171
    @elkehassell1713 жыл бұрын

    Six years what a joke!

  • @2icelollys1goat

    @2icelollys1goat

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I couldn't fathom this. Should've got 40 not 6

  • @truthwinsuk8056
    @truthwinsuk80562 жыл бұрын

    These are quality. Please do some more

  • @ajs41

    @ajs41

    Жыл бұрын

    The individual Crimewatch shows and Crimewatch File programmes are also available.

  • @adamoneill2566
    @adamoneill2566 Жыл бұрын

    Discusting 6 years he was a nice guy schliak he was a harmless eccentric who was probably was lonely disgraceful 6 years. Price of shit that Hamilton

  • @irishcountryman4866
    @irishcountryman48663 жыл бұрын

    Pity no photo of the killer.

  • @carlzeiss4871
    @carlzeiss4871 Жыл бұрын

    A police woman sees a man walking towards her with blood on his face and clothes and does nothing? Surely that is gross incompetence. I hope that she was at least disciplined for this neglect of duty.

  • @meredithisme3752

    @meredithisme3752

    Жыл бұрын

    Female cops unfortunately aren't there on merit

  • @cynthiatolman326

    @cynthiatolman326

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree, an officer has an obligation to step up when they come onto a situation like this. To see a man covered in blood and not ask him what happened boggles my mind, She could have led to the solving of the murder, if doing nothing more than alerting on duty police about him immediately. I'm thinking he would have run, but good chance they'd have caught him due to his injury.

  • @scallopohare9431

    @scallopohare9431

    Жыл бұрын

    She was off duty, and he could have simply had a nosebleed. No, we do not stop passers by just because they look odd.

  • @ShaneBulls

    @ShaneBulls

    Жыл бұрын

    She WAS OFF duty.!!

  • @rs-qt1qg

    @rs-qt1qg

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@ShaneBullsa police officer is never off duty. If they witness something happening they have to step in. Just like a doctor is never off duty.

  • @sarahpiaggio2693
    @sarahpiaggio269311 ай бұрын

    Have they increased sentences since the 90s at all? Because only 6 years for this?! and according to the dates at the end, he only did 3!! That's really quite shockingly little.

  • @joshuaedwards4536
    @joshuaedwards45363 жыл бұрын

    So they did find the killer of Christoff, I wasn't sure as I never followed up this case back then, but am so glad justice was done eventually.....

  • @ginaryan2093

    @ginaryan2093

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes they did.

  • @joshuaedwards4536

    @joshuaedwards4536

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ginaryan2093 thanks for the update, and I'm so glad to hear that justice was truly done once again

  • @ginaryan2093

    @ginaryan2093

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@joshuaedwards4536 well it wasn’t exactly justice - actually the outcome is revealed later on in this video as you’re probably by now aware.

  • @neilt4723

    @neilt4723

    2 жыл бұрын

    Justice? Stabbed to death 22 times and manslaughter?? joke of a verdict wasn’t it

  • @joshuaedwards4536

    @joshuaedwards4536

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@neilt4723 thank you for updating me on this case, and yes, that's DISGUSTING, 22 xs, premeditated murder more like, should've locked the piece of sh*t up for life

  • @sylversyrfer6894
    @sylversyrfer689411 ай бұрын

    6 years for brutally stabbing to death a man? What terrible injustice!

  • @MalonsMilk
    @MalonsMilk Жыл бұрын

    As soon as they said flamboyant man I knew he’d be gay.

  • @th8257

    @th8257

    Жыл бұрын

    It was one of the unpleasant 'code words' they used back then. Society was hugely homophobic.

  • @sdeee3842
    @sdeee3842 Жыл бұрын

    My old haunt lived there!

  • @abigailfreeman715
    @abigailfreeman71511 ай бұрын

    At 41:00 they gave him a cigarette, while questioning him. When he refused to give a hair or blood sample, and he left, surely they could have tested the cigarette butt he left in the ashtray.

  • @eadweard.

    @eadweard.

    11 ай бұрын

    Not sure if possible with the technology at the time. Plus the cigarette might have been poetic licence for the reconstruction.

  • @abigailfreeman715

    @abigailfreeman715

    11 ай бұрын

    @@eadweard. agree, but the police commentator said that he asked for a cigarette, and they obliged in a hope to relax him.

  • @glamdolly30
    @glamdolly3011 ай бұрын

    These cases, now over 30 years old, are horrific - not least because in most cases the guilty served such short prison terms for killing people, and if still alive, are walking free today. So much police and legal work (and money) went into catching and convicting the killers, for such paltry penalties. In America. these scumbags would never see the light of day again, but would die in prison - and quite right too. How the hell is stabbing an unarmed man 23 times manslaughter?! It's clearly murder. If I was evil enough to do that to someone, there's no way I would expect anything other than a life sentence! Poor Christoph paid the ultimate price for trusting a stranger. Loneliness kills. God bless him - he did not get justice, the monster who stole his life from him should have died in a locked cage. This case reminds me of another Crimewatch case from around 1990 - also London. Retired, middle-aged gay headmaster Ron Harrison, who was tortured and killed by two rent boys. They too served ridiculously short prison sentences (I think 8 years), for their horrific violence against a vulnerable man who invited them into his home.

  • @JayJay-nr2gk

    @JayJay-nr2gk

    8 ай бұрын

    Yeah it does remind me of ron Harrison to especially how smart he dressed they died in similar ways to

  • @suzimonkey345
    @suzimonkey345 Жыл бұрын

    Fascinating!

  • @ginaryan2093
    @ginaryan20933 жыл бұрын

    They certainly dance around the fact that he isn’t all that keen on women.

  • @sarahholland2600

    @sarahholland2600

    Жыл бұрын

    Not really. They used the word 'flamboyant' less than 1 minute in. Tactful word for gay back then.

  • @justinparkerthewildwolf6394

    @justinparkerthewildwolf6394

    Жыл бұрын

    He's gay . They said he's gay

  • @donny121able
    @donny121able Жыл бұрын

    If this was in court today he would of got life.

  • @sarahpiaggio2693

    @sarahpiaggio2693

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes, I was going to say, a 6 year sentence which was in practice a 3 year sentence for such a crime is a real insult to the victim and I hope they've increased sentences now

  • @fionagregory9376
    @fionagregory93763 жыл бұрын

    Nick Ross looks young.

  • @carolinemcgovern8059

    @carolinemcgovern8059

    Жыл бұрын

    Went to Queens University, Belfast. Contemporaneous photos make him look like he should still be in school :) Good genes?

  • @th8257

    @th8257

    Жыл бұрын

    In fairness, it is 34 years ago. We all looked younger 34 years ago.

  • @ross6740
    @ross6740 Жыл бұрын

    They could of got DNA from the cigarette Hamilton extinguished in the ashtray in prison at the fist interview. Only saying...

  • @th8257

    @th8257

    Жыл бұрын

    DNA technology back then was very primitive, sadly. So many of the cases in 80s Crimewatch would have been solved very quickly nowadays.

  • @vivienneandersson6019

    @vivienneandersson6019

    7 ай бұрын

    Could have

  • @MUFC1933
    @MUFC193326 күн бұрын

    0:53 since when does requesting afternoons off from work constitute a drink problem?

  • @IvorGrumble
    @IvorGrumble Жыл бұрын

    He probably would have been a fantastic barrister, but the xenophobic old dinosaurs didn't allow that.

  • @Lushgirl81

    @Lushgirl81

    Жыл бұрын

    Silly reasons as to why he couldn’t practice!

  • @CHALCEDON-edu

    @CHALCEDON-edu

    Жыл бұрын

    How could he have become a barrister? He was a lazy and unreliable employee and a drunk to boot.

  • @sarahpiaggio2693

    @sarahpiaggio2693

    11 ай бұрын

    @@CHALCEDON-edu Maybe chicken and egg: a lazy, alcoholic unreliable employee BECAUSE he couldn't fulfill his potential (?)

  • @kernow5000
    @kernow50006 ай бұрын

    Why do people always confuse "memory" with storage? The iPhone doesn't have "up to 512GB of memory"

  • @glamdolly30
    @glamdolly3011 ай бұрын

    The policemen who take part in these reconstructions are always such lousy actors, bless 'em!

  • @Groover1
    @Groover1 Жыл бұрын

    What is " very nolivadule " ?

  • @hapijen4828
    @hapijen482811 ай бұрын

    Could've got his DNA from the cigarette he was offered & left behind in the Mount joy interview.🚬

  • @eadweard.

    @eadweard.

    11 ай бұрын

    Not sure if possible with the technology at the time. Plus the cigarette might have been poetic licence for the reconstruction.

  • @johnryan2193
    @johnryan2193 Жыл бұрын

    I was going for a drink so the fact that a guy covered in blood passed me ,n!!!!!!!!

  • @scallopohare9431
    @scallopohare9431 Жыл бұрын

    Somebody, get that landlord a bra!

  • @sdeee3842
    @sdeee3842 Жыл бұрын

    Worked at Chancery Lane

  • @_MissANGIE
    @_MissANGIE11 ай бұрын

    52:39 BLOCKBUSTER VIDEO.

  • @suzimonkey345
    @suzimonkey345 Жыл бұрын

    🌹❤️🌹❤️🌹

  • @traciemarsh1611
    @traciemarsh16116 ай бұрын

    rip christoph so sad

  • @mazfitnessjounery2023
    @mazfitnessjounery202310 ай бұрын

    Why does he remind of the tv charcter Poirot

  • @lee70687
    @lee70687Ай бұрын

    An interesting snapshot into homophobia of the time, both in the verdict, and to a lesser extent the way the police dealt with and spoke about the case. It wasn't a 'homosexual murder', it was a 'homophobic murder'.

  • @nicholashudson9792
    @nicholashudson9792 Жыл бұрын

    Serves the man right

  • @tosspot1305

    @tosspot1305

    Жыл бұрын

    Why?

  • @donny121able

    @donny121able

    Жыл бұрын

    Clearly more of a man than you will ever be.

  • @Lawh
    @Lawh11 ай бұрын

    So he was gay.

  • @elviscool9822
    @elviscool9822 Жыл бұрын

    Wat e spitting phelmp I'm in shop with white short most don't like homasexuals but these days the laws not ie whatever CNT say nothung bt gays lesbians transvestites homasexuals Cs its allowed now

  • @carolann3249
    @carolann324911 ай бұрын

    He should have stayed at work and not lied about his drinking problem . A sad man whose talents were wasted .

  • @rich9697
    @rich9697 Жыл бұрын

    The copper described it as a "homosexual murder" which he said meant he "had a real problem on his hands" homosexual murders obviously being much more problematic than your bog standard hetro murder. The good ole days eh.

  • @IvorGrumble

    @IvorGrumble

    Жыл бұрын

    Like black people and women, gay people were always treated like shit by the police so they didn't really talk to the police as they didn't trust them, and rightly so. This is probably why it would have been problematic, albeit the police's fault in the first place.

  • @Purewood357

    @Purewood357

    Жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂 we miss the 80s n 90s

  • @2icelollys1goat

    @2icelollys1goat

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@IvorGrumbleThat's a bold stereotype - and a massive generalisation, that basically makes all coppers out to be bastards. I was an officer and treated people equally. You sound very bitter, sadly.

  • @anglodoomer5995

    @anglodoomer5995

    Жыл бұрын

    But it was true

  • @donny121able

    @donny121able

    Жыл бұрын

    He was referring to the fact he could be having many homosexual emcounters making it hard to pin down a suspect.

  • @barryward2538
    @barryward2538 Жыл бұрын

    really manslaughter

  • @meredithisme3752
    @meredithisme3752 Жыл бұрын

    Aah UK yeah they don't believe in consequences

  • @tosspot1305

    @tosspot1305

    Жыл бұрын

    Unless you offend someone on the Internet

  • @Groover1
    @Groover1 Жыл бұрын

    ach-y-fi mun

  • @cynthiatolman326
    @cynthiatolman326 Жыл бұрын

    1992, good homophobic jury you had there. UK justice isn't justice

  • @Purewood357

    @Purewood357

    Жыл бұрын

    Pansy justice

  • @erdemir5641
    @erdemir56412 жыл бұрын

    A naked raving homosexual approaches a man. Man defends himself and gets locked up

  • @suzimonkey345

    @suzimonkey345

    Жыл бұрын

    “raving homosexual”??? Where did you get “raving” from? If people were allowed to kill anyone who came-on to them there wouldn’t be many people left! …so basically he murdered a man for being naked & you don’t think he should have been “locked up”???

  • @suzimonkey345

    @suzimonkey345

    Жыл бұрын

    There’s a word for fear of homosexuals & it’s NOT a legal defence for murder…although some lawyers in the USA have tried it!

  • @TF80s

    @TF80s

    Жыл бұрын

    We only have his word for the fact that the guy came onto him..more likely the murderer was a repressed homosexual himself who took his self hatred out on a poor innocent man who wouldn't have hurt a fly.

  • @nudisco300

    @nudisco300

    Жыл бұрын

    Secretly watch gay porn when the missus ain't around Steve? You doth protest too much.

  • @dawnb3194

    @dawnb3194

    Жыл бұрын

    …… so the ‘man’ said - that ‘man’ who was only there to rob the victim. A convenient defence in my opinion. He got off very lightly imo 😡

  • @manuelacagiao8622
    @manuelacagiao862211 ай бұрын

    I REMEMBER ' VERY NICE POGRAMA. ♥️❤️💖♥️❤️💖👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍