Everybody asks for an original property, not more sequels or preexisting IP. When new original stories aren’t financially successful because nobody paid for a ticket, the big companies will just come out with more sequels and preexisting IP

@BSmoothe805

4 ай бұрын

This is why I don't respect any of those grifters on youtube clamoring for new stories and less remakes.

@tmmnago2722

4 ай бұрын

I did my part.

@Sigma_Male_Anti_Female

4 ай бұрын

This movie wasn't bad but it wasn't anything special.

@lacolem1

4 ай бұрын

Wasn’t much original about this, though. It felt like a movie we’ve seen a dozen times. It’s irritating people hold up this film as a reason why studios shouldn’t take risks. If you’re happy with sequels and remakes, just say so

@rogue9230

4 ай бұрын

This film was just predictable and clunky as times Gareth Edwards knows how to make a movie but he doesn’t know how to tell a good story

The problem with The Creator wasn’t that it was original, it was that it failed to live up to its concept’s potential.

@josiah3820

4 ай бұрын

It's flawed sure but it's actually brilliant.

@miguelfmyers

4 ай бұрын

I agree totally. I seen the film because I try and support cinema and i was disappointed, because of that i didnt recommend it or see it again.

@mrfrosty3

4 ай бұрын

There is so much that I enjoyed in the Creator but, its messy, it felt like it should be an anime.

@mo0se3

4 ай бұрын

it was that it simply wasn't a very good movie. I was excited to see an original film finally but was bored as hell not even halfway through.

@DarthHomercles

4 ай бұрын

I agree. I liked the movie overall, but it started to lose me in the 3rd act when it got real tropey and action-focused. It all felt rushed and disconnected from everything else that happened earlier in the movie.

Blaming the people, who actually went to see the movie, for not liking it and assuming why is weird. This movie had some great elements but the story, script, characters, world building & logic needed a lot of work for it to be a great movie. It also wasn't terrible and more likely failed because it wasn't marketed well enough. It's a lot better movie than Avatar 2 (or any other new Disney rubbish, post Endgame) and the CG looks way, way better too IMO, so I feel that it could have done better if people actually knew about it. If only the story had been refined for a while longer and the characters had... well... some character, it could have been great. Unfortunately they were mostly either empty or cartoons.

@assassin8636

2 ай бұрын

Um Avatar 2 is better than this movie

I personally enjoyed this film. I wish there was a sequel.

@cybersoldierforever

4 ай бұрын

It doesn’t need a sequel. It’s best to leave it as one movie.

@henryventura1919

4 ай бұрын

And with many characters killed along the way, who would be the main character? Alphie maybe.

@caproductions1595

4 ай бұрын

Saw this movie on 4gs of shrooms shit was amazing 😵‍💫

Just as we don't tolerate known IP movies being bad just because they're from an IP, we shouldn't tolerate original movies being bad just because they're original. Just make a good movie, it's been done before.

@zachlee7945

4 ай бұрын

real

@themanofshadows

4 ай бұрын

Sure, but The Creator isn’t bad. Nor is it woke. So it deserves support especially amongst those whining about constant remakes and sequels.

@todishirin

4 ай бұрын

the creator isn't bad.

@squamish4244

3 ай бұрын

But...we DO tolerate known IP movies that are maybe not bad, but meh. Doctor Strange 2 made a billion dollars. And this barely made more than its budget. So...what do you want? You cannot bitch about this movie and then complain that "Hollywood is out of ideas" when it tries an original idea for a substantial budget and then you don't support it. You just can't.

Title should be when original films still aren’t all that original lol.

“Creator” is so underrated. Me and my bro have this movie as our top 3 movies of the year. It was awesome. Sad that it didn’t do good in the box office. 1) Godzilla 2) Oppenheimer 3) Creator

@FilmSpeak

4 ай бұрын

Based Top 3. Love it!

@czarcoma

4 ай бұрын

Which Godzilla?

@suezcontours6653

4 ай бұрын

​@@FilmSpeakStop telling the audience what to watch and appreciate.

@LuisSierra42

4 ай бұрын

@@suezcontours6653 That's literally his job

@suezcontours6653

4 ай бұрын

@@LuisSierra42 No. He can talk about what he likes. But as audiences are diverse, we don't have to support these kinds of movies if we are not interested in them. I rather wait for it to come on TV

Creator might not have been based around a preexisting IP, but its story was far from original. It’s a bunch of common AI tropes, elements, and conventions that we’ve all seen before packaged and modernized into something resembling “new” and “original”.

@lkf8799

3 ай бұрын

Yes!

@Mopark25

3 ай бұрын

It's exactly why people think it's AI written. It's like a mad-lib of plot conventions.

Look. I get it. I get the argument and I agree. And I bought a ticket. But the fact of the matter is that we can’t always linchpin films because of what they represent as compensation for their actual quality. The Creatir is a very half baked film with beautiful visuals that is poorly serviced by cookie cutter characters and a very vague and shallow world with cheap and often shaky allegories to the real world, especially those in east Asia.

@Barillaa

4 ай бұрын

Thank you! Exactly my thoughts

@LuisSierra42

4 ай бұрын

Yep. The robots could literally be replaced by anything else to play the victimized group. If they are really sentient machines, why on earth would they just stay put and quiet while they are being exterminated. Humans simply have no chance against them since they are superior in every way

@matheuslascasas134

4 ай бұрын

I very much agree with that. I watched it and thought it was pretty forgettable

@wexwuthor1776

4 ай бұрын

Yes, the script was bad.

@zachlee7945

4 ай бұрын

ye like I'm sorry but I saw it and I can't remember half the plot, if you made a forgettable-ass movie, you made a forgettable-ass movie sorry you can't build a more interesting story, but you ain't blaming me for it.

I was immediately turned off by the trailer because of a persistent flashback to Will Smith’s After Earth - a blatant nepo disaster of a movie that I still shudder thinking of it.

The audience didnt fail this movie, the movie failed itself by not doing anything interesting with the core concepts and characters. At some points it feels like it was written with an AI, mixing and matching plot points and characters from better films without figuring out why they worked in those original films. Its a hodge podge of basic sci-fi tropes mixed with a wolf & cub story that we have seen dozens of times at this point, all of this could be excused if the cinematography or characters were more interesting and not extremely basic, this is in a lot of ways babies first sci-fi movie. The movie does look great, and a lot better than movies with 2-3x it´s budget, that is commendable, and i hope the director keeps making stuff like this while adding in more originality, at least its not Zac Snyders Rebel Moon.

@lkf8799

3 ай бұрын

Agree.

The sheer rush I just felt at hearing the soundtrack from the movie as soon as the video started... I gotta rewatch The Creator asap. I gave it a 10/10 walking out of the cinema back in September, it was such a beautiful movie. Fantastic video as always man!

@FilmSpeak

4 ай бұрын

Thank you man! Yeah wanted to get the feels going right off the bat.

@SpawnHades

4 ай бұрын

@@FilmSpeak Mission Absolutely accomplished! Happy Holidays ❤️

@HEARTS-OF-SPACE

4 ай бұрын

The song happens to be used in the soundtrack, but it certainly wasn't made for the film. You likely understand that, and I probably just interpreted your comment incorrectly, but I just felt the need to clarify.

@SpawnHades

4 ай бұрын

@HEARTS-OF-SPACE I actually didn't know! Thank you for letting me know! Gonna check it out and see what else the artist's done :D Edit: The amount of embarrassment that went through me realising it was a Radiohead song is insane dude.

@HEARTS-OF-SPACE

4 ай бұрын

@@SpawnHades Haha! No worries, my friend!

This is ridiculous, the audience owes the filmmaker nothing; in fact i’d say it’s just the opposite, the filmmaker owes the audience. the audience is giving them time that it will never get back and in turn deserves to get a valuable experience out of it. audiences should be as judicious with their time as they want. if the writing in a movie is mediocre the audience has no obligation to watch it simply because the idea is original. every movie has to prove itself to its audience if it wishes to succeed, and The Creator, through its poor writing, failed at this.

I don't trust the guy who made both Godzilla & Star Wars boring.

@WanderlustZero

3 ай бұрын

He lost me with 'Monsters'

Nah the movie just was not very good. Huge respect for the VFX looking this good, and very cool they shot it on an everyday camera (amazing). I paid and went to see it in the theater despite the negative reviews, but it even exceeded my low expectations. Loop holes, non-logical world building, non-logical emotional responses. It felt like a 4 hour movie being cut into 2. The protagonist is a carbon copy of Tenet. I really wanted it to be good, sigh

I think "The creator" it was solid movie until he started to travel with the girl for the whole last hour. Because the first hour was an awesome action sci fi flick but when we were introduced to her, the movie started going to awesome to good and even if the movie had still some great parts and it was entertaining, it lacked a bit of fun of the first hour

@suezcontours6653

4 ай бұрын

Children of Men did this better

The first two acts and the potential behind The Creator was amazing. The final act felt like it was written by AI and completely derailed everything before it. There's a case to be made for audiences not showing up to support original films but I don't believe this film is the hill to die on for it as an indicator.

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@SpammytheHedgehog

4 ай бұрын

Great.

Really solid film and concept visuals were awesome and acting was good but ultimately it fails because it fails to ask any interesting questions or do anything interesting or challenging with its characters there was sooooo many questions implications and ideas left unexplored

I understand your argument dude and I want more original IP. But I went to go see this in theaters opening weekend and this movie was hot ass. People can want original IP, and original IP can suck. Both can be true, and in this case they are

@assassin8636

2 ай бұрын

Not all the time though

The problem with the movie is that it was like 7 different movies simply done worst than them

the existence of this video summarizes the issue with this film: Every single intricate detail mentioned fails to convey to the general audience. The story sucks. The theoreticals are there, but the story is a convoluted mess, and boring. even by the end of the film, The general audience do not feel any emotional connection or understanding to the wider concept and theme of this film. It takes an additional KZread video to really understand it. that is why this film was a flop.

I was surprised that more people didn't watch it, it was a really creative movie, even if it was more of a sad movie, I still loved it

@zachlee7945

4 ай бұрын

bro said creative lmao what

Tbh I don't really agree with this idea. The movie was visually stunning but plot wise it was anything but original. I was able to predict the two big twists / reveals that happen close to the end within the first 20 mins. John David Washington also has the charisma and screen presence of a rock. If this movie was more of an 8 out of 10 or higher it'd probably have made a bigger buzz with audiences, but the fact that its a 6.5 (maaaaaybe 7 at best) is why it probably didn't do as well at the box office. I finally saw it a few days ago and felt like it was overhyped to me because of all the KZread videos conveying the same message as this one.

No doubt the themes and worldbuilding in this film had great potential (except the "New Asia" thing bc storyelling-wise that feels the same as someone using "Orient" to describe anything remotely Asian). However, the story itself felt very mediocre with stale tropes, especially since they managed to fridge Gemma Chan's character THREE TIMES.

when original filmmaking FAILS the audience..

It had a shockingly, SHOCKINGLY, terrible script/acting considering the very promising concept and visuals. I walked out of the movie with around 30 minutes left and I wasn't the only one that walked out in my theater. The only thing it has going for it is the concept, visuals, and how they used a prosumer camera to achieve them.

The problem is that "The Creator" is just not that good of a film. It boils down to "slavery bad but with robots" and the script is a mess with terrible dialogue, shallow characters and terrible pacing. I don't blame people for not wanting to spend a bunch of money to see in theatres especially with how expensive movie tickets are nowadays.

Creator was beautiful to look at but the story left much to be desired for me. That being said I feel like the movies just need more marketing. Anyone but you is surely to be a poorly written story but every girl I know plans to see it bc it’s been shoved in our faces as a rom com for the girlies. Creator got press too, but not nearly as heavy a push.

What font did you use for those in video captions?

Reason why this movie failed is because it was super predictable. There's never any chance that you felt that anybody was really worth feeling for. Every fight scene you knew what was going to happen. And when they tried to be suspenseful it didn't have enough build up to it. I think the pacing was for someone who has ADHD kind of like how TikTok is so famous because people can't think for more than 5 seconds at a time. You never live with anybody in this movie long enough to get to know them. All the characters are just another mashup of the same movie. The idea was great but the writing was horrible. Even the dialogue was clunky at best. For me it was not clever enough also way too predictable just like every other movie trope it's been done to death you can see everything happening before it happens and then when it does like yep I knew that was going to happen. I had trouble staying in it because it never had any real gravitas to it. But that's just for me. Although the visuals were great and the idea was a good one, it just was never going to live up to its hype.

Putting a child at the centre of the film was meant to engage audience emotions but it backfired as it came across as emotional manipulation. Secondly, the film was slow for an action film.

Just recently saw this film on Hulu it was awesome. Story was easy to understand, solid world building, likeable protagonist, great child actor, great visually and a soundtrack. Personally though the movie copies alot from other known IP films which kinda gives it an identity crisis. Additionally it didn't help that the first trailer of the film spoiled 80% of the plot and it was released during one of the most competitive movie seasons ever. Reminds me when I first saw Ex Machina which I thought was a fantastic film yet barely anyone gave the film the time of day. I went opening weekend and it was just me and like 6 other people smh

People say audience don’t want original films but I feel like audiences have been pouring into the theater for artistic original films as long as they’re GOOD. The Creator was simply mid so it got the box office results of a mid movie with no IP recognition.

I've always said that good storytelling is the key to good movies. The Creator failed not because it is original, but because it failed to tell its story. It can be argued that there is nothing new under the sun, so the storyteller/filmmaker's job is to tell an old familiar story in a way that it recaptures the audience's sense of wonder. Star Wars, Harry Potter, Mad Max, and to some extent superhero films are some examples of existing tales and legends craftily retold. Unfortunately, most of those examples eventually fell victim to lazy storytelling.

Look: I bought a ticket and I really wanted to like this movie. But sadly at the end of the day this is a sci-fi story that asks the age old question of: "what if robots were like humans" and finds no intersting or new answers to it. The visuals were solid but i could never shake the feeling like I have seen this stuff before.

@cutieapplepie

4 ай бұрын

EXACTLY, just go watch 1 episode of black mirror. That'll give so much more insight and keep you interested in a shorter runtime. Filmspeak blaming the audience is just.. No. If the movie was really THAT good. Then guess what would have happened, people would be spreading the word, posting about it, telling friends and family. Which would cause it to spread like wildfire and people would be lining up to see it. But the truth is, everyone went "meh" and didnt recommend there friends to watch it.

Look although this movie is an original IP technically, it’s also one of the most derivative sci fi stories I’ve ever seen. The writing is just straight up sloppy. It pulls from District 9, Blade Runner, Akira, Rogue One, and I’m not sure if there was a single original idea in the movie. Not trying to hate, just honestly if someone knows of one original idea in this film please let me know what it was.

If a film doesn't please the audience, it's the film's fault, not the audience's. Rarely do excellent movies fail. The Creator failed because it failed the audience in its job to tell a good story.

@nope5657

4 ай бұрын

While I'm not a big fan of this film, your statement is beyond stupid. Are you a sheep? The film world is full of films beloved later after initially failing.

The Creator felt like District 9 but with AI instead of Alien crustaceans.

@aedenflores3947

4 ай бұрын

Like I know the storylines are very different but plots are very similar

@cutieapplepie

4 ай бұрын

Like a watered down version of District 9 and a Basic Boring version of Black Mirror

So… I came watch a video based on the title - and there was something completely different. A hollywood bait-and-switch

If only the director took the film a fraction as seriously as the maker of this video

The absolute greatest commentary on this movie I’ve seen yet. So many people saying the story is boring and generic and here you are highlighting the nuances and depth present. Thank you for making this ! Now I’m off to watch this beautiful piece of art AGAIN.

@laartwork

4 ай бұрын

Seriously search Siskel and ebert review Blade Runner. Eerie how similar the criticism is and how both movies flopped at the box office. I remember the "meh" reaction to Blade Runner. Creator will be a sci-fi classic in 20 years

@zachlee7945

4 ай бұрын

Its literally just rogue one lmao. Great visuals, bad characters, and even worse acting. Edwards loves visuals, we know this, lets not pretend he's some genius, finding new stories every which way. He was the dude who does nice visuals and he still is the dude who does nice visuals, no more though.

@CaitNightz

4 ай бұрын

​@@zachlee7945I thought that the character writing was better and Rogue One tho. Or maybe I'm just to soft with it because I'm a huge Star Wars fan. But yeah, I also thought it was Rogue One 2.0. Both have an oppressed group fighting a totalitarian government that has built a mass destruction weapon to oppress them even more, and the main characters need to find the McGuffin that is needed to destroy the weapon. And also, both movies have their protagonists dying in an explosion after kissing their loved ones

@zachlee7945

4 ай бұрын

@@CaitNightz 100%, I didn't love Rogue One but now I've seen Andor I just adore that movie because its a story which includes a character I love. Prior to that though, ye sorta thought it was just poop for most of the movie then just an insane action sequence at the end.

@CaitNightz

4 ай бұрын

@@zachlee7945 I mean, is not like George Lucas was a great writer either. He was just in the right place at the right time. Still, I enjoy Star Wars so much, and Rogue One was in my opinion a good complement for what the series was going for. It managed to make sense of a big plot hole in the first movie that was kinda laughable, and it managed to do it with a cast of characters that felt really compelling to me

When you were explaining the plot of the film I thought you were going to cut away and say "But enough about The Matrix". Maybe it's just me, but science fiction stories live and die on its concept. The character work filters down from that. So, despite this film having all the pieces and some novel world building, I'm still left with a feeling of... eh, I've seen this before. It didn't make me feel or experience anything that The Matrix or The Animatrix or Terminator 2 or Children of Men or The Last of Us hasn't made me feel before.

Love your enthusiasm. Sci-fi is my favorite genre but this had so many references to other movies that I unfortunately wouldn't call it orginal 😬 Best new Sci-fi I've seen recently was Everything Everywhere All at Once and it very deservedly swept the awards 🏆 It was amazing ✨❤❤❤

Dude it's a robot. The whole premise is ridiculous.

Wrong, this movie is overrated. This movie was just plagiarism. Theres a filmento video about how it just took the plots of logan, last samurai, last of us and maybe some other movie and just pasted them together sloppy and put a sci fi skin on it. When you watch this movie nothing feels new, but everything looks pretty. Half way through this movie you know how its gonna end, because you’ve already watched the other movies that this plot has taken from. the only thing is you dont realize right away why you recognize this plot as if you’ve already seen it, but its because you have seen it already in logan, last samurai, etc. this is the most clever way of being unoriginal. Also whats with the lazy scifi tropes without reasoning, like “dude has a robot arm… because” and the robot arm does nothing to advance the plot or relevant in general. Why even spend money to animate that, just a sci fi skin on plagiarism lol. The audience didnt fail this movie, the audience subconsciously knows when theyre watching recycled material. Don’t insult the audiences intelligence. That fact that a low budget japanese godzilla movie with a very original story blew American audiences away proves this. Good try tho

The Creator is the most under appreciated film of 2023. This film was an experience Im glad I had in theaters. It’s in my top movies of the year and it deserves to be there.

I mean… that’s great looking movie and incredibly resourceful production but originality of the story is up to debate. You can write a list of movies it has picked ideas and designs from

The movie is a 6/10. Heartfelt moments, great visuals, great cinematography, but the story has some pretty glaring issues when you put it under a microscope. Gareth Edwards is a great filmmaker and could really be at the top soon, but he could probably leave most of the writing to someone else.

this was well written but the point about the audience is a bit off. we have dull audiences for sure and their lack of taste and education on story yea yea sure. however the filmmakers failed in the story area. they were better off getting someone like jordan peele, or jim uhls to write and they should have stuck to the other aspects of telling this story like lighting and production design. if any of you want to see the creator taken on with a more evidential point of view Filmento put out something super solid about a month ago

I freaking loved this movie so much I watched it twice. Was super confused when I heard people don’t like it. Wtf it’s like y’all wouldn’t know a good movie if it slapped you in the face

As DCEU now comes to a close ,can you do a video essay about the DCEU.

wtf are you talking about? it's the audience's fault for shitty movies now? just write better stories and people will come. The Creator was boring, the writing was atrocious and the pacing terrible, it's beautiful but that's just not enough.

Havent seen the film but I can see the mirroring of AI and children. We create both with expectations of what they become, but those expectations are built on nothing other than our singular wants, rather than accepting that the things we make can form an existence of their own wether we like it or not. At the other end is the idea of the "product of the environment" where the things we make are only the sources we feed them. Both AI and children become what they are based on the life and experiences we give them, and that directly affects the choices and actions they make.

hovering over the video and seeing Radiohead really made me thinks youtube was bugging out again, but no, you really did mentioned radiohead in a video about creator

The trailers made it look derivative of other movies, with well worn tropes that need to be put to bed. A weary soldier type told to obtain the key to humanity’s survival? And it ends up being a kid/woman/etc? With an actor who isn’t known for his charisma, unlike his father? By a director with nice ideas but absolutely no nose for commercial appeal (and spare me the Rogue One rhetoric…that film was a narromess)? Not shocked it had mid box office performance, when it gave an aura of being a mid movie.

People just didn’t like it man 😂 I myself paid to see it and couldn’t wait to get out of the theater. It’s that simple…

Ok a couple of things, 1) Are you going to pay for everyone's tickets to go out and see the films you think they should be watching? In Canada for example it costs around 40-60$ per person to go out to the movies. Glad for you if you have the cash to do that every week. But for most people, thats not realistic. 2) So you get to tell everyone what movie they should be watching? Why is it wrong if a person genuinely like franchise movies or superhero movies? Just because people like those movies and not what would get a thumbs up from Cahiers Du Cinema doesn't make them failures or less than. 3) Hollywood filmmaking first and foremost is a business. They are out to make a profit so that they can continue to make films. They aren't making movies because they want to make the next Citizen Kane. Whether or not your agree with that mindset, they are risking hundreds of millions of dollars. And as with any business they will make the products they think will generate profits. 4) Both COVID and the strikes (which I fully support) decimated the industry in a lot of ways. Don't expect indie movies to be the dominant movies for a long long time as the studios recover.

@FilmnerdTV

4 ай бұрын

The problem are not the franchise movies itself but the „damage“ they (partly) did for creativity in Hollywood

@StephenLeGresley

4 ай бұрын

@@FilmnerdTV But thats not what Hollywood is about. Thats what TIFF and the Cannes Film Festivals are about. Hollywood is a business town. Even A24 is moving towards more Blockbuster Franchise material.

This film looks and sounds great, but writing is just dumb and manipulative the contrast makes me so sad.

I loved The Creator, im glad to see someone give it some spotlight

One could say we have failed original movies by not seeing them when they are offered. A rebuttal to that could be that movies like The Creator are flawed. A rebuttal to that rebutall could be that the hollywood franchise machine is flawed but apparently we still dont regret seeing bad sequels and reboots enough to stop going. Why not take an L for an original movie if we are willing to take an L for a franchise movie that has an established reputation of being uninspired at best and poor at worst?

this is something that annoys me, people are constantly complaining about how there's no original movies anymore and everything is a franchise, but when an original movie comes out nobody goes to see it, the same thing happened when the nice guys came out, awesome movie, not based on anything, nobody saw it

@lkf8799

3 ай бұрын

Nice Guys is awesome. It wasn't advertised well and I'm not a big fan of movies set in the 70s but if I had known it was written by Shane Black I would have been first in line. Saw it late but it was fantastic. Still secretly hoping for a sequel 😉

the thing is i think the creator is loosly based or influenced by the manga Pluto. it dives deeper into the perspective of ai and its much more tragic than the film too. very much recommended. (check the netflix animation came out this year and it does the manga justice)

The movie has some issues for sure. We watched it with our Canadian friends in theater last year, and we all liked it to one degree or another. One friend said the movie lost him at around 2/3 point. My complaint is mostly about the movie trying too hard to sell a very forced romance, the cyber Buddhism being too goofy at times, and the concept behind Alfi being somewhat nonsensical. I still gave the movie a solid 8/10 for its stunning visuals and overall touching story.

I would be on board with the basis of this video if it wasn't for the ending of the film. It's like they asked them to edit out 20 minutes so they just condensed an hour long ending into 15 minutes. There are plot points that are outright dropped or underused. Especially when it comes to a certain data drive that they carry into the Final Act. That data drive and the useless final scene that it allows just should have been dropped completely if it's all you're going to use it for.

I wish this movie was better. It looked pretty good but what it had to say was just not it

It wasn’t just general audiences that failed this movie, it was the grifting frat bro tightie-rightie corner of YT commentators with absurd levels of influence who remained neutral or negative on the film. They should also shoulder the blame, for allowing the current cinematic malaise to continue, because of course any film that shows signs of originality detracts from their brand.

@FilmSpeak

4 ай бұрын

Yeah there was a significant lack of coverage from a demographic that cries for originality...sadly it goes against the grift as you said.

@TY-km8hj

4 ай бұрын

100% agree

100. This was my favorite cinema going experience of the year.

Hopefully this Movie, Never had a Sequel and More Series. One is Enough!

I'd have preferred less of the war/ battles and more of buddy jouney along the lines of the "Electric State". Spectical doesnt mean fighting, people seem to have forgotten that.

I think part of the hatred or crazy criticism this film is receiving is out of guilt from people who complain that "Hollywood is out of ideas" and then don't support movies that try something even mildly original. Well, what do you want? Sure, The Creator borrows a lot of tropes from other films. But it also, absolutely, tries to do something original. And it bombed. So what do you expect when the next generic sequel comes along? Hollywood won't make movies for free. And entertainment is one of the most consumer-dependent industries in existence. We have nobody to blame but ourselves for generic, unoriginal films, and we don't like it.

Haven't seen anything yet but I'm so excited for this! I almost always look up critic/audience scores before watching a movie, it won't keep me from watching it and a lot of the time I do disagree, but the score wasn't terrible and I decided I'd check it out tonight. I'd never heard of this movie but it sounded like something I'd enjoy and I really loved it, I cried when Maya died and Even though I knew she wasn't dead, when Alphie "died" because I was so worried about how they were gonna get out. I don't even wanna talk about the ending! I like watching movies and then binging a bunch of reactions/reviews (I actually do that with movies, books and music). When I was searching this one, all the videos seemed to be negative! I've watched a few but I just disagree, I think it was BRILLIANT! I've always been against ai and still probably always will be but this movie really made me think and feel and took me on an emotional adventure, I think people aren't giving it the credit it deserves, I only found out about it tonight because it's on Hulu, why is no one talking about this?!

It’s funny how this movie was “original cinema” but somehow feels like it was designed to hit specific beats from start to finish. Like a less creative I Am Legend or Children of Men.

The Creator is actually a good movie. One of the better movies that came out this year. Best movies in my opinion I’m not ranking them, just listing them. 1. Oppenheimer 2. The Creator 3. Gran Turismo 4. Across the Spiderverse 5. Super Mario Bros. Movie 6. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 7. Godzilla Minus One 8. The Boy and the Heron 9. Killers of the Flower Moon

@filmspeak I am a longtime fan from my personal channel, just wanted to stop in and say this video is absolutely fantastic. Your work is always so cerebral and headdy in a way I truly appreciate. I released a 13 minute video “Why the Creator is a Masterpiece” on my channel last week, and it’s crazy that we literally have zero crossover in our takes on this film. That’s how much there is to praise here. You went inspiringly deep into The Creator in ways I was honestly afraid to do due to the backlash I felt like I’d receive. I kept it surface level but your take here just shows how great your work truly is. Keep on rocking.

I enjoyed the Creator when I saw it, but later a movie called Mars Express dropped in theaters. It is a french animated movie with a lot of similarities, about AI and such. I strongly recommend you to see it (it may be difficult to find outside of France, and that's a huge bummer, but internet is a wide place 😊). Mars Express is a hundred times deeper about the question of a civilization that has adopted AI. Watching this movie made me realise how much The Creator lacked imagination and depth. And yet I still like it but clearly Mars Express is a far better take on the subject. I am not saying that out of patriotism, I feel compelled to mention. Quite the opposite, I'm generally not a big fan of french cinema. But here the crew working on this film did a truly amazing job. Really, go see Mars Express, it's funny, it's refreshing and it's gonna blow your mind ! 😊 By the way, thank you for your work, love your videos !

I quite liked this film in cinema and am quite sad it bombed, it deserved better. It annoys me that ppl want originality qnd something new that ismt a sequel or a franchise and yet when there is one like the creator, they ignore it

I’ll put this movie on occasionally merely for the incredible ambiance.

i dont understand why ppl think just bc something is original its automatically good. The movie was a slog and a waste of the concept. Sure the cinematography was great but this is a scifi movie and somehow they underutilized every scifi element in the movie. Don't get me started on the generic character and their very obvious storylines that's been done in so many movies. This was literally Logan but a ton less cool

I remember being critical of writing of this one on my first viewing, I need to give a second watch. I do agree with you on the worldbuilding, that did make me happy with this film.

I think of The Creator as an entertaining movie. However, I can't help but feel that Gareth Edwards tried to make a Rogue One 2.0, because the plot structure was almost the same. I honestly felt that I was watching Rogue One again, but without the same care and attention of it. It still has some interesting reflections and perspectives, but overall, it wasn't a great movie

Okay, two things that pisses me off about this topic. One there is very few original films and I'm not talking about like recent ones based off of TV shows and toy lines. Most films that you think are original films and you like as films originated as books and plays. Nearly all of them look up almost every single Oscar winning movie from the '70s and before and the majority of them are either adoptions of stage plays or were based on books. Sick and tired of everyone just going "Oh adaption is wrong" because that's been most of film history. In fact, the first very first films ever were adaptions of stage plays and books. Second, I'm sick and tired of people asking for "originality". Originality died after the first hundred plus years of religion. The audience does not care if something's original or not and they care if something is good. And right now the majority of the audiences not even the critics the audiences. Don't think rebel moon is good. Not terrible but it's not good great and especially not the best. You know what people really think is really good Godzilla minus one a reimagining and reboot of the first Godzilla movie from back in the 50s. Because the difference between Godzilla minus 1 and rebel Moon is fucking quality. When the audience starts finally demanding quality, that's what we should be celebrating. Fuck this "auteur" shit. Fuck this Disney Xerox shit.

1:00 yeah you got me to click off with that opening, i imagine its why your video bombed compared to your other ones.

@cutieapplepie

4 ай бұрын

Hahaa, yeah me too. Im leaving a dislike and dipping. This video is so horrible, blaming us for the movies bombing.

Why is FilmSpeak a critic, if you like this movie. You never watched the original which was Bladerunner, Ridley Scott masterpiece addressing the same issue 20 years ago. Star Trek addressed this between the Vulcan and the Borg. Disney's movies are more deep then this one.

If you're an American, the America bad trope can be annoying. Otherwise it's a pretty great film. I was very conflicted by the end of this but genuinely felt the main character was doing the right thing, for him and the world by the end. I guess what lies beyond logic is feeling and when logc fails, you just have to follow your heart.

@mdd4296

4 ай бұрын

The logic-feeling dichotomy is a false one. Illogical and unfeeling are the respective opposite. You don't really live and engage in humanistic behavior because of logic. You feel like doing that, most often a default human want coded into our genes (for most people anyway), the logic is then a tool to execute these desires.

This is why I recommended The Creator to everyone before it even premiered. It had very interesting, creative and compelling statements to make about Artificial Intelligence that made me question why this did not sell as many tickets as I thought it would, unless I forgot it was competing against a bigger movie at the same time. Saw X and Paw Patrol: The Mighty Movie were nowhere near Top 10 films of the year bestsellers, but I guess they sold way better to different audiences who liked Saw or Paw Patrol, leaving little room for the middle ground of people who would give The Creator a chance. The Creator had a lot to recommend to other viewers, including the director and two of the writers of Rogue One, and the trailers were done really well, yet it was hard for anyone to drum up any real hype for it. Audiences who want original and new film properties to exist, apparently did not want a movie like The Creator. Even my video talking about The Creator only has 78 views to this day. 😢So why did only a vocal minority of people bother to watch The Creator? I thought Gareth Edwards and Chris Weitz were more popular than this after Rogue One. December 24, 2023, 8:40pm

Ever thought of a Spoiler Warning!? wtf..?!

I'm all for orginal filmmaking, but I also want to see a good movie. So I went to see "Mars Express" a French cyberpunk animation, which is both orginal, independent production and an acctualy good movie, I skiped "the Creator" though as general consensus was it's just mediocre film.

Finally, a well thought out and comprehensive review of this movie.

Main character is bland , the soldier woman looks like a soccer mom. little robot girl was incredible. Too bad the Ai preformed better than the real life actors

The promoters failed this film. I wish id seen it in a theater but i never saw a trailer

I appreciate Creator and I wish it had done better. But for me personally Gareth Edwards has such a dull filmmaking style I can never get into his stuff. Godzilla 2014, Rogue One and unfortunately Creator were all sleep inducing for me.

The creator one of the best movies I saw in 2023

The writing and pacing in the latter half of the film was very disappointing. I do like Gareth Edwards directing ability which is what originally drew me in.

Proof John could have been a great recast for T'Challa.

the creator wasnt bad, but rebel moon was honestly bettter

It was truly a good movie, visuals were amazing, thanks for the video on this one!

I really enjoyed the movie. I did have a few issues 1. I would have loved them to go deeper on religion especially in terms of machines how they fit in to the larger picture 2. The relationship between the mc and the kid felt abit rushed Otherwise I really enjoyed the movie.

The Creator was absolute trash. Being original isn't enough to earn the audience's time and money. Be for real

The story itself is just not exciting enough. I know it has a lot of cool concepts and visuals, but these are not the first thing to a movie. My problem with this movie is that AI are described as almost pure innocent and the western government as almost pure evil and stupid. And that’s boring to me.