The Cost of Evolution | Xenogenesis Trilogy

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In this video we will talk about Octavia E. Butler’s Xenogenesis trilogy, aka, The Lilith's Brood trilogy. The Xenogenesis trilogy is extremely thought provoking, it’s extremely strange but grounded in real world ideas. It’s Deep and thoughtful but also an absolute page turner. Keep in mind that this video will get into some spoilers for the series. So if you haven’t read the series, maybe don’t watch this!
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  • @thepresidentofeverything5399
    @thepresidentofeverything5399 Жыл бұрын

    You're the reason I've gotten back into reading. I'm currently going through Children of Time and another book from a local author. Thanks man 👍

  • @zakcourt

    @zakcourt

    Жыл бұрын

    Quinn got me onto reading the Three Body Problem. I've been looking for Children of Time, but nothing local carries it. I'll keep looking!

  • @TikoPiko

    @TikoPiko

    Жыл бұрын

    I got both Children of Time, Children of Ruin and the The Three Body Problem trilogy because of Quinn. Have read Tchaikovsky'a two books and they were superb reads. I start Liu as soon as I get the time.

  • @0m3gazach

    @0m3gazach

    Жыл бұрын

    Dude exact same. I got into audiobooks for the first time due to this amazing channel. Listened to children of time and children of ruin. They blew me away. Basically everything on this Chanel has really resonated with me. Im even a patron for the author of "Humanity Lost".

  • @daveturlow5967

    @daveturlow5967

    Жыл бұрын

    Translation…oh please please notice me please like my comment please please i need it to feel self worth….simp

  • @Sierra038

    @Sierra038

    Жыл бұрын

    I just seen this after my post lmao awesome!

  • @MrDsleepyeyes
    @MrDsleepyeyes Жыл бұрын

    I remember reading this in middle school. It was both fascinating and filled me with a sense of dread. The aliens we benevolent from their point of view... but then again, weren't most monsters heroes in their own mind?

  • @JohnJohnson-fl2fr

    @JohnJohnson-fl2fr

    Жыл бұрын

    Someone who wants to help you to death is much more insidious than someone who has openly malevolent intent.

  • @sodalitia

    @sodalitia

    Жыл бұрын

    We are the monsters. We wipe out other species in the process of propagation of industrial technological systems. We preserve only those plants and animals that benefit us directly. We say we care about environment, but when confronted with economic growth, it becomes disposable. We see it as progress in our mind.

  • @SergioLeonardoCornejo

    @SergioLeonardoCornejo

    Жыл бұрын

    Well. Indeed. And if you ask me, I'd rather go extinct than lose my freedom.

  • @Tonixxy

    @Tonixxy

    Жыл бұрын

    It's exactly like some dessert tribe wrote some holy book and put themselves as main characters here on earth

  • @luciasardo7728

    @luciasardo7728

    Жыл бұрын

    Woow

  • @liabobia
    @liabobia Жыл бұрын

    Akin is such a badass - I felt so sad for him when he learned the fate of Construct males like himself. He will never be allowed even the physically distant partnership of his human parents. There's such a heavy metaphor in that - the benevolent dictators messing with family structure, removing the fathers and replacing them with themselves (specifically, only non-Construct ooloi). I can't wait for Quinn to cover the third book!

  • @overlyfatman9722

    @overlyfatman9722

    Жыл бұрын

    Reality is cruller than fiction.

  • @realityisenough

    @realityisenough

    Жыл бұрын

    WAIT WHY NOT

  • @luciasardo7728

    @luciasardo7728

    Жыл бұрын

    Woow

  • @luciasardo7728

    @luciasardo7728

    Жыл бұрын

    Woow

  • @jeffpatterson6444
    @jeffpatterson6444 Жыл бұрын

    Got to meet her when she did a library tour for Imago. You've nailed what she wanted the reader's takeaway message to be.

  • @StefanTonioSampson

    @StefanTonioSampson

    Жыл бұрын

    Saw her at a library in NY for (i think) her last novel Fledgling - such a intellectually magnetic, one of those minds that it's awesome even just to hear her talk at length about stuff....

  • @sohrabroozbahani4700
    @sohrabroozbahani4700 Жыл бұрын

    It is so interesting to me how different people from different societies imagine the way human interact with aliens in diverse ways, I am living in Iran and when I write I reflect on the problems I face in human condition and questions I have about how societies should or do work dressed as scifi and alien encounters... and someone from the other side of the planet has completely different questions in mind, so different it sounds just as alien to me as it would to hear them from a being of another world... humans and how they work are fascinating things...

  • @KDbelieves

    @KDbelieves

    Жыл бұрын

    What were some of the different questions and view points?

  • @sohrabroozbahani4700

    @sohrabroozbahani4700

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KDbelieves well mine usually rotate around how next generations deal with legacy of their forefathers, human relationship with power, ethics, religion and loyalty, natural selection and how to bring our gods under our reign again... in the world I live in power and responsibility are the most important factor, how to survive a stronger enemy, how to gain power to defeat him and how not to become him in the process... But in the Western world I see all manners of questions starting with " does it worth so much to..." and " now that we failed how do we fix it?" It seems our societies are on two sides of a hilltop... we are struggling to climb and only see the top, those people have passed that point and now question how to deal with the devils laying on their way back down from it...

  • @KDbelieves

    @KDbelieves

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sohrabroozbahani4700 Hmm interesting. As someone who was born in the west but has immigrant parents, I grew up in a position where I can see both sides. I realized that the west are losing the values that the rest of the world still has. Their value of family, legacy, religion etc is slowly dwindling and so is their humanity...in a sense. The rest of the world see's the west and wishes a life of leisure like the west, not realizing that they are already living the dream. It reminds me of this song lyrics, "half of us are chasing fountains of youth when it's in the present." They are chasing the dream even though they are living the dream. Our greatest weakness as humans is how we want more and more. If we stopped when we were at the top, we would be satisfied.

  • @sohrabroozbahani4700

    @sohrabroozbahani4700

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KDbelieves I have but one like to give to your reply, so far what I have discovered is the evil stealing our happiness is in our distance from balance, as chinese have a saying, when you can't find your way go back to where you started, so I started digging into our collective past and the further back I looked more and more it became clear, societies are born around an idea, then over time they become radicalised and polarised, lack of appeal of a middle ground makes them unsustainable and eventually the two sides go their own separate ways, just like a cell that grows and divides and gives birth to two new cells, past that point only natural selection will determine who was more efficient, because right or wrong again is more a matter of side picking it seems... Writing is more than anything an exercise in thought, a way to play our ideas in a semi realistic situation and see how it turns out, and since it all happens in our head, and what happens in our head is directly dictated by our life experiences, that is where all this diversity of views is coming from...

  • @akoo369

    @akoo369

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sohrabroozbahani4700 I feel like you may be confusing yourself. We all deal with the same problems on Earth.

  • @jackfennell4348
    @jackfennell4348 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting coincidence: the Oankali word for their ships is a near-homophone for the Irish 'teach isteach,' which roughly translates to 'house/dwelling-place inside.'

  • @DarlingMissDarling

    @DarlingMissDarling

    Жыл бұрын

    I was listening to this while doing busy work and as soon as I heard him say it, I was snapped to attention! Had to rewind and look it up phonetically, since I'm 3rd gen American-born. But what a fantastic thing to discover! Tho now I'm missing my Maimeó something terrible, lol.

  • @roseknightmare
    @roseknightmare Жыл бұрын

    Small but important issue the story isn't about evolution but eugenics and gengineering. Evolution is a very different thing than presented here.

  • @voltijuice8576

    @voltijuice8576

    Жыл бұрын

    The word "evolution" gets saddled with a lot of semantic baggage. All it literally means is "unfolding", which indicates change. What many really mean by the term evolution is _natural selection,_ which is a far more specific concept. I'd agree that eugenics and/or engineering certainly aren't natural selection.

  • @Mystravian

    @Mystravian

    Жыл бұрын

    its still evolution. Evolution is any change through mutation. Selective breeding does that, and theres no real reason to seperate even gene editing from epigenetics.

  • @comradecameron3726

    @comradecameron3726

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Mystravian The Definition is not the same.

  • @Mystravian

    @Mystravian

    Жыл бұрын

    @@comradecameron3726 Doesnt need to be just needs to overlap, and it does.

  • @tonoornottono

    @tonoornottono

    Жыл бұрын

    tomatos and bananas have evolved because of human intervention. it’s not natural selection but it’s evolution.

  • @nicholascortese9446
    @nicholascortese9446 Жыл бұрын

    I read this series in college as part of a Sci-Fi and Fantasy lit. class. I suspect you were de-ranked for some of the themes these books could represent when viewed through different lenses today. The many themes are very nuanced and I read this at a time before the internet had grown to what it is today so there wasn't much information about the author readily available. I knew Octavia Butler was African American but there was almost nothing about her on the net back then. I had to extrapolate some of the themes by digging up what I could to try to know the author. She did a masterful job of crafting a story which likely had been influenced by the civil rights movement but never seemed to turn it into a full blown allegory about racism, civil rights, social justice et al. It seemed to me that there was a surface level tip of the hat, but the deeper message was about the human condition in its entirety. At least that's how it seemed to me because the feelings and depth of her message was that relatable. Great video Quinn. I've been watching you since the early days. I'm glad that you have not become a one trick pony with only GoT and Dune content. You've dropped some great additions to my reading list, and now I am compelled to read xenogenesis again to see it again 20 years after the first reading.

  • @reubennichols644

    @reubennichols644

    Жыл бұрын

    - " " Q " " . F A R from a one --- --- trick --- pony . A M E N ! ! ! Thank God . " Q " is a consistantly entertaining story - teller . His narrative skills make his shared view points . . . . . . C A P T I V A T I N G . -

  • @TawaniAnyangwe

    @TawaniAnyangwe

    Жыл бұрын

    Great observation. :) Not the one trick pony :)

  • @epone3488

    @epone3488

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m not so sure it’s subtle. There is a very strong “assimilation” allegory at the very least. Dominant culture assimilating the client culture to the detriment of the indigenous client culture, with the justification being “Oankali genetics” ... that I don’t find satisfying. It was clearly a choice the author made to say that the one species is superior to the other at least I regard to its identity and culture. It’s therefore interesting that the story is propelled by a protagonist (Akin - I love his naming “A kin”) who is an exception to this “law” and is more interesting due to his blending... odd deliberate choices imo ... Moreover there are strong “colonialism” alagories present in the theft of native land and resources for the patron empire represented by the Oankali who are broadly benevolent, in some ways like the supercilious British in India or Africa who are there to bring “civilisation” to the indigenous people...

  • @Amfortas

    @Amfortas

    Жыл бұрын

    @@epone3488 But they objectively did bring civilization

  • @TawaniAnyangwe

    @TawaniAnyangwe

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Amfortas They destroyed the indigenous civilization. Remember civilization is contextual.

  • @sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149
    @sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149 Жыл бұрын

    I always felt this had an important thing to say about progress, the costs of it, and freedom and agency. It's more complex than" choosing stagnation over progress," likewise it's often complex than "progress at all costs." Much like in reality.

  • @MasterGhostf

    @MasterGhostf

    Жыл бұрын

    Also, what may look like progress or stagnation may not be so. The option for humans to settle on Venus or Mars could be seen as progress. Building something new. It may get destroyed in conflicts. But, that is fine. There is an option for new things and new people. Like how in our day, many people go into the wilderness for days, weeks, and months. Its going back to an earlier time period of human history, but its also doing something new modern people haven't done.

  • @francescobruno-bossio537
    @francescobruno-bossio537 Жыл бұрын

    In a way the Olakali are enforcing their own form of colonialism. Perhaps like European settlers saw indigenous tribes as self destructive and undeserving of agency so do the Olakali see humans

  • @visoriannull832

    @visoriannull832

    Жыл бұрын

    I feel like that's somewhat reductive considering humans in this series were going to go extinct without intervention.

  • @francescobruno-bossio537

    @francescobruno-bossio537

    Жыл бұрын

    @@visoriannull832 that's why I say "in a way," because I believe there's other interpretations possible

  • @ImperativeGames

    @ImperativeGames

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, it's better than how European settlers viewed other tribes. The ones they exterminated with diseases and guns.

  • @rocki_bb

    @rocki_bb

    Жыл бұрын

    @@francescobruno-bossio537 nah. Colonial Europeans viewed non-Europeans as subhuman. Olakali view humans as humans. Your comparison lacks nuance. I have to remember not to read comments on videos

  • @rocki_bb

    @rocki_bb

    Жыл бұрын

    @@francescobruno-bossio537 I'm autistic as well. Are you trying to make a specific point? I have difficulty in reading tone online, so I'm not going to assume my gut feeling on your reply is correct. Could you please clarify?

  • @madmank7881
    @madmank7881 Жыл бұрын

    That sounds horrible to not be able to touch another human and to watch as your species dies.

  • @HimitsuHunter

    @HimitsuHunter

    Жыл бұрын

    Part of the issue is that the 'third sex' of Oankali is actually the original organism highly derived and adapted towards trading genes with other lifeforms that aren't akin to self. One of the adaptations it's gained since it's primordial format was to directly insert itself into the breeding paradigm's of what ever it was trading with so as not to be left out of the equation. A biological adaptation to assure that the organism wouldn't be treated as 'other' by the other parts of it's gene trading partners. The whole thing about not letting humans keep a breeding population of humans was that they saw us as having 2 innate traits (Instinctual hierarchy and intellect) that would always eventually conflict with each other. With the world war they rescued the survivors from as ultimate proof of Exactly that coming about. The fact is from their very alien perspective they were trying to be kind.

  • @madmank7881

    @madmank7881

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HimitsuHunter what they are doing is out of kindness yes but it is the right thing as it is the same as a mother stunting their child's growth, so if humans die because of the actions at least they would do it of their own free will.

  • @brayerkh

    @brayerkh

    Жыл бұрын

    @@madmank7881 Of course it’s doesn’t seem right to us, but an alien’s definition of “right” could vastly differ from ours, and it does vastly differ from our definition in this trilogy.

  • @TheSDBux
    @TheSDBux Жыл бұрын

    Quinn I am so happy to see the frequency of uploads increasing. For sure keeping content going is rough. I hope to see your views on more video media, it should be easier to keep a quick turnaround.

  • @summerkagan6049
    @summerkagan6049 Жыл бұрын

    This was a masterly summation of the Lilith's Brood trilogy. The accompanying art was insightful as I had never really envisioned how the aliens and the hybrids looked. Well done.

  • @forestpunk9902
    @forestpunk9902 Жыл бұрын

    Its good to see creators like you giving Octavia her due and deep diving into this series. Great work Quinn!

  • @PC-gs7pv
    @PC-gs7pv Жыл бұрын

    Quinn keep them coming these mini-breakdowns are awesome and help to flourish the imagination and interests in SF!! Thank you!

  • @kirby282
    @kirby282 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much Quinn, every video of yours is an absolute pleasure.

  • @chakuseki
    @chakuseki Жыл бұрын

    Quinn, you are an absolute machine! Thanks for giving us so much amazing content!

  • @Proclaimfame
    @Proclaimfame Жыл бұрын

    Just added this to my wish list. Thank you for the exposure

  • @Hochspitz
    @Hochspitz Жыл бұрын

    Your care in the production and narration of your videos always inspire.

  • @PenRippyJr
    @PenRippyJr Жыл бұрын

    droppin bangers last few days i freakin LOVE IT bro!

  • @priyashmukherjee
    @priyashmukherjee8 ай бұрын

    Octavia Butler, visionary bard, Your words ignite our minds, our hearts. Your stories challenge, inspire, And guide us through the darkest night. Through your characters, we see ourselves, Our strengths and weaknesses, our triumphs and our pains. You write of race, of gender, of power, Of the choices we make, the paths we take. You remind us that we are all interconnected, And that our destiny is shared. Octavia Butler, we thank you for your gift. *LOVE FROM INDIA*

  • @BriarLeaf00
    @BriarLeaf00 Жыл бұрын

    Hitting us up with some great stuff this week. Great job Quinn!!

  • @TimothyScott84
    @TimothyScott84 Жыл бұрын

    I recently found this channel via the algorithm most likely and really appreciate what you do! I'm a big scifi fan but have a hard time getting enough time to read anymore, but your channel has helped to find a lot of new books and new authors to add to my "read later" list! Thank you very much!

  • @youknowwho9741
    @youknowwho97419 ай бұрын

    This channel is such a gem❤

  • @Maizazael
    @Maizazael Жыл бұрын

    I am in love with your channel. I love how beautifully you present these stories, especially hers. The way you quote things. Aaaa, just very good, thank you Quinn!!

  • @kushjones14888
    @kushjones14888 Жыл бұрын

    i’ve seen a few comments saying this but you’re the reason i’ve gotten back into reading! i forgot what laying in a hammock and getting lost in a book felt like. been loving it. keep doing great work brother

  • @amiraameera8302
    @amiraameera8302 Жыл бұрын

    This is amazing!! NO ONE talks about Xenogenesis!!! Thank you, Quinn!!!

  • @martina.9357
    @martina.9357 Жыл бұрын

    I honestly can't wait for the next video. I just found this channel and I'm bingeing all your vids.

  • @Dius765RS
    @Dius765RS Жыл бұрын

    @Quinn's Ideas The Three Body Problem - Totally Fascinating. Please do more long form videos I could watch your content all day an never get bored 👍

  • @keirangrant1607
    @keirangrant1607 Жыл бұрын

    I dont get notices when your videos come out but I look for your channel. You got me hooked after that 3-bodied problem series you started.

  • @adamharris-batt6333
    @adamharris-batt6333 Жыл бұрын

    Been loving watching your videos every day after work man

  • @4Ever_2Eternitii
    @4Ever_2Eternitii Жыл бұрын

    Just letting you know that you are the reason i bought the audible version just a couple of hours ago (i didn't even watch the whole review just the first 2 minutes, liked and clicked off so I wouldn't spoil it for myself)...and wow...i dont think i would have ever picked it up otherwise...its so good already and the narrator is fantastic!!

  • @catbertz
    @catbertz Жыл бұрын

    I'm going to read this series! It sounds intriguing, and maybe disturbing. I bristled as I listened to the "deal" that humans were offered to survive and "recover" from their deep mistakes. It's a dark manipulation, taking advantage of human survival instincts. To trade away the very idea of humanity for what sounds like a horrible outcome. I'm already challenged thinking about it.

  • @NevTheDeranged

    @NevTheDeranged

    Жыл бұрын

    It gets even more interesting, because as far as we know, the Ooloi sincerely believe they are offering us the best possible choice.

  • @catbertz

    @catbertz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@NevTheDeranged Aah, interesting! I missed, or misperceived that in his overview. I won't ask more questions so you don't have to spoil core stuff. 🙂

  • @NevTheDeranged

    @NevTheDeranged

    Жыл бұрын

    @@catbertz the books are extremely deep, I've read them almost a dozen times and I still find new things to glean from them. There's no way one video series could cover everything. I'm pretty sure there are literally college courses on it

  • @Duterasemis

    @Duterasemis

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't want to spoil it, but the ending of Adulthood Rites addresses this a bit and gives some hope for baseline humanity

  • @Nick-lz4vc
    @Nick-lz4vc Жыл бұрын

    Loving the content drops! You are the reason I am reading the Three Body series. Just started book 3. Will finish it quickly so I can watch your content about it without spoiling anything

  • @ChezzaOuttaNowhere
    @ChezzaOuttaNowhere Жыл бұрын

    I have wanted you to cover this for sooooo lonnng! I am so happy!

  • @emilyarter2773
    @emilyarter2773 Жыл бұрын

    You do such a phenomenal job explaining this series. Thank you

  • @alwaysema1058
    @alwaysema1058 Жыл бұрын

    I found your channel yesterday and I’m so glad!

  • @angrykagg421
    @angrykagg421 Жыл бұрын

    Honestly I think you are one of my favorite channels on youtube and you always make me want to read more.

  • @SneekyKeeky
    @SneekyKeeky Жыл бұрын

    I read these as a teen. Brings back good memories. Keep up the great quality content!

  • @MikeTheRobot23
    @MikeTheRobot23 Жыл бұрын

    You're the only creator I don't listen to at 1.5x speed. You're such a great storyteller!

  • @kzik3635

    @kzik3635

    Жыл бұрын

    Tiktok atenntion

  • @TheHunterOfYharnam

    @TheHunterOfYharnam

    Жыл бұрын

    try dopamine detoxing, you might need it

  • @jorriffhdhtrsegg

    @jorriffhdhtrsegg

    Жыл бұрын

    I listen at 0.5x to give myself more nightmares

  • @ahngelooh

    @ahngelooh

    Жыл бұрын

    I can't believe there are people who actually do this

  • @TheHunterOfYharnam

    @TheHunterOfYharnam

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ahngelooh tik tok and other things have ruined modern people's attention span

  • @chugg159
    @chugg159 Жыл бұрын

    You were the reason why I started reading. I wasn't much of a reader before, but the way you present these works as if they're true makes me keep wanting to read. You were probably the first person, in my life, who made a legit presentation to me for the value of fiction.

  • @maddenfootball
    @maddenfootball Жыл бұрын

    YESS!!!!! LOVE HOW MUCH YOU'VE BEEN UPLOADING RECENTLY @QUINN!!! KEEP IT UP!!!

  • @earFront
    @earFront Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Mr Quinn, enjoyed your review as always.

  • @pfeffivonminz1934
    @pfeffivonminz1934 Жыл бұрын

    thanks dear quin, just started the three body problem, after reading the hyperion cantos on your suggestion. i love your content since a few years, and i am stunned to hear about books, i had never intended to read becomeing very interesting. thank you for the new input, you make my life more exciting. i am from berlin, so excuse my poor english

  • @jlangkowski
    @jlangkowski Жыл бұрын

    Another great video. You've quickly became one of my favourite channels on KZread. Keep up the good work Quinn

  • @Beer_Dad1975
    @Beer_Dad1975 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Quinn, another recommendation for my e-reader queue. So far you've put me on to The Three Body Problem and Hyperion (everything else you've covered I've already read) - both have been fantastic (still working my way through the Hyperion series) - my wife is wondering why I want to go to bed at 9pm, it's because I want to read! You have amazing taste, and your insight to the books you cover is great.

  • @gterrymedJR

    @gterrymedJR

    Жыл бұрын

    Same, got into Dune, Hyperion, and now finishing 3 body because of Quinn!

  • @Lucien_75
    @Lucien_75 Жыл бұрын

    I want to say is definitely a page Turner because of your video I'm halfway through the first book of the series in 1 evening. Thanks for inspiring me to read again it's been awhile since I've done it. I feel like your video helped me reclaim a part of myself I thought lost.

  • @ezri6369
    @ezri6369 Жыл бұрын

    It’s such a fascinating trilogy - I’m super glad to hear more people discussing it!

  • @spagbol3104
    @spagbol3104 Жыл бұрын

    Hope you know how great you are Quinn! Awesome work

  • @stevenenns1747
    @stevenenns1747 Жыл бұрын

    I love your videos, you’ve gotten me back into reading too, I’m loving the three body problem

  • @jerryfolsom886
    @jerryfolsom886Ай бұрын

    I'm late to this review and all your work. I like what you cover, I like your voice and I love your choice of music for everything. Thought provoking sci-fi and scary stories are calming in today's world. Thank you Quinn !

  • @torturedparadox
    @torturedparadox Жыл бұрын

    Oh HELL YEAH. I love this book series. Read it so much I've had to actually replace my copy more than once. Thank you so much for making this video!

  • @reid566
    @reid566 Жыл бұрын

    You’re on such a heater bro last few vids have been great and coming out super fast

  • @jennaopal
    @jennaopal Жыл бұрын

    These books are so thought provoking. All of your sci-fi book reviews are so great. I need to start reading sci-fi again!

  • @drasiella
    @drasiella Жыл бұрын

    Quinn, my beloved, thank you for deepening my interest in sci-fi. Im not into books anymore, but I love your summaries and analyses.

  • @cjfbenn
    @cjfbenn Жыл бұрын

    Dude! You have been on tare lately. Thank you so much for what you do. To know what I’m reading next, I simply tune in to Quinn’s Ideas. keep up the good work.

  • @akiravj
    @akiravj Жыл бұрын

    I just pass by here to click my like,i started the series yesterday and loving it big time,that description of lilith first encounter was awesome.

  • @Sierra038
    @Sierra038 Жыл бұрын

    This channel got me back into reading. Thanks yo!

  • @jstruss1
    @jstruss1 Жыл бұрын

    thanks for all the videos!

  • @taylormademyself89
    @taylormademyself89 Жыл бұрын

    Stories like this series with its look into a possible future are one reason why I love reading sci fi Stories 😎🤟

  • @hotdogperson42thechannel41
    @hotdogperson42thechannel41 Жыл бұрын

    Your videos got me into reading, thank you!

  • @joshuarogue9345
    @joshuarogue9345 Жыл бұрын

    I love your channel man!!!! You have opened me up to few great sci fi books already. I know they may be somewhat popular, but im kinda under a rock when it comes to sci fi books. Thank you!! Hope all goes well for you and the channel.

  • @MIXooNooMATCH
    @MIXooNooMATCH Жыл бұрын

    Yay you’re covering my favorite!!! You’re my hero Quinn

  • @Karol-tu5yd
    @Karol-tu5yd Жыл бұрын

    I'd like to thank you for work. Xenogenesis videos was the first material I've watched when I found your channel. Then I've bought the xenogenesis trilogy (unfortunately only as audiobook on Audible). After I've read it I was pleased by Butler's storytelling. Blindshot, Killing star and many other have been ordered as well.

  • @blackgirlrving2354
    @blackgirlrving2354 Жыл бұрын

    I love this series. I enjoy your take on this series. More content please.

  • @SledgedaGawd
    @SledgedaGawd Жыл бұрын

    My boi Quinn been on a HEATER here lately 🔥 Loving all the uploads

  • @WheelChair-yy1ji
    @WheelChair-yy1ji Жыл бұрын

    yo love the consistent uploads g!! keep em up :D

  • @hyltonhayles9988
    @hyltonhayles9988 Жыл бұрын

    I’m gunna add this to my collection yet another great vid all the series you cover completely compel me to read them XD

  • @greenman9123
    @greenman9123 Жыл бұрын

    Hey man! I really enjoy your content, thank you!

  • @abscondis
    @abscondis Жыл бұрын

    I have just purchased the three body problem. I want to read that next along with this one next. I love this channel. It is absolutely one of my faves and my go to place for great reviews of the best new SciFi books out there.

  • @FTL7I1H
    @FTL7I1H Жыл бұрын

    Great video on a very interesting series. I'll have to pick these up sometime soon!

  • @RichardStrong86
    @RichardStrong86 Жыл бұрын

    I never liked the Oankali after finishing reading the trilogy. They reminded me of Arthur C Clarke's Childhood's End in which the development of future generations effectively meant the total extinction of humanity and everything that defined it. WIth the Oankali survival is only according to terms they define, and it is no survival at all.

  • @Fankas2000

    @Fankas2000

    Жыл бұрын

    It also doesn't help that they can't take no for an answer for anything... Bunch of rapist aliens :D

  • @juansaenz7843

    @juansaenz7843

    Жыл бұрын

    I immersed myself into reading this trilogy and I couldn't like the Oankali either. I enjoyed some parts of the novels, but as for its end, I don't feel satisfied.

  • @AverageAwesomeDude

    @AverageAwesomeDude

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m about halfway through the second book, and I have to say I don’t like anyone really. They’re all fascinating characters but I don’t feel fond of almost anyone. The oankali are manipulative and the humans are either fatalist or delusional. I have to admit right now I kind of like the Oankali better but I am also on the part where the stupid old lady is trying to get people to mutilate children, it’s an absolutely normal reaction given the ridiculous conditions but I hate it and I hate it more that I can think of people I know that might entertain the idea. It’s very hard to not be on a bit of human hate high reading that. As for the “oh but human agency and survival on their terms” I’m kind of with the Oankali on that one, after we essentially genocided our species along with our planet to me humans lost the “I get to have it just the way I want it” privileges. The Oankali saved them and offered them a choice of joining or go live your life however you want except no children the old human way. The humans act like they’ve been wronged and had something stolen from them, again humans killed themselves and the planet, they had nothing. They act like joining the traders in exchange for food, safety, health, community and children to pass their genes on is some sort of failing by other humans and that it’s not enough, as if they deserved more. They killed us, they don’t get to have the cake and eat it too just because they don’t like the taste

  • @Fankas2000

    @Fankas2000

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AverageAwesomeDude "The Oankali saved them" If you continue reading you'll find out that they really didn't save shit.

  • @AverageAwesomeDude

    @AverageAwesomeDude

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Fankas2000 you mean the stuff with the ships?

  • @user-ml4ts7jw1k
    @user-ml4ts7jw1k Жыл бұрын

    I would really appreciate a video on your thoughts on the bunker project in deaths end! Huge fan of your content. Thank you!

  • @3choblast3r4
    @3choblast3r4 Жыл бұрын

    It's really great that there are so many cool booktube channels and that they are growing each day. Yesterday I found this really cool middle aged man who makes very very suiting calm videos about older and less covered fantasy and sci fi books. His voice sounds like someone that does voice acting. It's great.

  • @Muhmaker
    @Muhmaker Жыл бұрын

    Haven't watched the video yet, but I will listen to that series now and come back afterwards. Thanks for leading me towards new interesting sci-fi.

  • @rider2260
    @rider2260 Жыл бұрын

    keep up the content man. best out there

  • @mud5377
    @mud5377 Жыл бұрын

    Nice! I learned of Octavia Butler watching Harlan Ellison interviews. Such a wonderful world of imagination in sci-fi :D

  • @L3r4k
    @L3r4k Жыл бұрын

    And there I was looking for Hyperion audiobooks when I discovered this gem. Congratulations, man. Your work is very good.

  • @chrisross4186
    @chrisross4186 Жыл бұрын

    These videos are always quality representations. Would love to see videos on The Night's Dawn Trilogy.

  • @DmitriVanderbilt
    @DmitriVanderbilt Жыл бұрын

    Please do more content about Lilith's Brood/Xenogenesis! I just finished reading it a few days ago and found it totally fascinating and compelling to the point that I felt like I wanted my own ooloi... Would love to hear more of your thoughts on this fascinating trilogy! I also intend to read more of Olivia Butler's work starting with Parable of the Sower.

  • @TheJerbol
    @TheJerbol Жыл бұрын

    Great video, in addition to your first of the series. Looking forward to the final book video. Gotta say 10:05 that is a bum-**** ugly novel cover. The cover art for the ones on your shelf is sublime though, absolutely gorgeous

  • @richardwalker6004
    @richardwalker6004 Жыл бұрын

    Great vid like always

  • @thecarpentergarden2943
    @thecarpentergarden2943 Жыл бұрын

    You channel is doing amazing 👏 I started watching while u made all the dune videos

  • @IsaacKuo
    @IsaacKuo Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting stuff! Thanks so much! I'm checking out the other video now...

  • @jacobray8189
    @jacobray8189 Жыл бұрын

    Finally a series that deserves way more recognition.

  • @onecoding
    @onecoding Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely love your videos.

  • @JaymeSplendid
    @JaymeSplendid Жыл бұрын

    Dude, you've turned me on to some extremely grand, high -fantasy- sci-fi books I've never heard of as I'm more into Tolkien-esq fantasy. But my love for the Dune series had always left that door opened a crack. Tho I've always enjoyed Cosmic Horror in a sci-fi setting, those books tend to not be all that lore focused on a deeper level., unfortunately. Thank you

  • @RhiannonSenpai

    @RhiannonSenpai

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm writing a webtoon/graphic novel in that cosmic horror vein but it starts more like a mecha then Dune and then cosmic horror.

  • @aufgehts5

    @aufgehts5

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RhiannonSenpai You cannot just put bait like that out there without giving us more Information senpai. Where do i find that comic?

  • @RhiannonSenpai

    @RhiannonSenpai

    Жыл бұрын

    @@aufgehts5 Roeyan Saga. On webtoon.

  • @EyobFitwi

    @EyobFitwi

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RhiannonSenpai I just read the synopsis and damn, I think I'll subscribe

  • @jazrivvaz1282

    @jazrivvaz1282

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RhiannonSenpai isn't mecha cosmic horror just Eva?

  • @zakmorris8357
    @zakmorris83572 ай бұрын

    I think your channel is going to get HUGE!

  • @richardanderson8696
    @richardanderson8696 Жыл бұрын

    God, I love your channel. Please don't stop.

  • @greenyodais
    @greenyodais Жыл бұрын

    I'd like to point out I'm subbed, and you randomly came up in a recommendation today. Instead of being a normal part of my feed.

  • @hoverpantsz262
    @hoverpantsz262 Жыл бұрын

    Good stuff brother keep up the good work.

  • @freddythescout
    @freddythescout Жыл бұрын

    Another great video. Keep it up.

  • @ManiacMeats
    @ManiacMeats Жыл бұрын

    Literally just finished the last page 15 minutes ago. It was wild and I loved every minute of it! How isn't this a freaking movie already???!!

  • @Shindetsuku
    @Shindetsuku Жыл бұрын

    Shared this with my spouse who is super interested in these concepts. Thank you!

  • @randombencounter263
    @randombencounter263 Жыл бұрын

    I only recently got into Butler's writing, just finished the Parable of the Sower last week. Highly recommend it

  • @nicolasbuist2451
    @nicolasbuist2451 Жыл бұрын

    You have such a wonderful narration voici

  • @audioel
    @audioel Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful to hear you talk about these books. Donald Moffitt's "Genesis Quest" duology covers a lot of the same themes of biotechnology, loss of agency, and humanity struggling to survive at the hands of a apparently benevolent superior species. Butler wrote better characters and imagined a bigger universe in some ways. Moffitt's story is more human in scale, but still very thought provoking. In a different theme altogether, you should check out Stephen Baxter's Xeelee Cycle. It is an absolutely enormous universe of post-human evolution, and almost Lovecraftian (but not supernatural) powers fighting a war from the beginning to the end of time. Thank you for the all the wonderful content!

  • @larenzobraxton7494
    @larenzobraxton7494 Жыл бұрын

    Dropping fire video on the daily now 👍🏿

  • @atleaugust6238
    @atleaugust6238 Жыл бұрын

    engagement comment! love your stuff so much!

  • @metazuul1103
    @metazuul11038 ай бұрын

    great video! loved seeing all the oankali designs, never been a fan of the painted one on the compendium cover lol

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