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When I realized a certain person was in each book it blew my mind and I immediately googled some answers, spoilers be damned

@RavensRants

3 жыл бұрын

You're brave. I hate spoilers XD

@faulty4350

2 жыл бұрын

Ah I love that character. So smart and ...wit-ty.

@ginorvdw

2 жыл бұрын

Hoid'd you do that?

technically nightblood is also a worldhopper

I started reading stormlight again after reading a few novels. And then I heard "Let's destroy some evil" and I was looking at this sentence for a while thinking something ain't right. And then I googled it. So now I'm here searching for cosmere explained lol

I'm really hoping Shallan will join the world hopping people soon! She would be the most likely too given she has a (minor spoiler ahead) Seon now and knows the truth about the Ghost Bloods. God I hope she becomes a Rosharan world hopper ❤️

@RavensRants

2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure she will

@tommycrane742

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps traveling with Jasnah. Transported kinda makes it easy

@badusernam

Жыл бұрын

When did shallan get a seon?

@dunnejos8423

Жыл бұрын

@@badusernam did you read Rhythm of War? If not well, I did warn about spoilers lol.

@badusernam

Жыл бұрын

@@dunnejos8423 i did but i just remembered the box so nvm. Read row before elantris so i ddnt reguster that it was a seon.

I read White Sand before I read most of Mistborn and Stormlight and I’m very glad I did. It was nice to know Khriss as a cute dorky scientist duchess before I knew of her as the cool Cosmere researcher most people first met her as. P.S.: I know White Sand has a reputation among some fans, but I really loved the Graphic Audio version of it! If you weren’t crazy about the comic, it’s definitely worth a listen!

@Kevin-cm4ow

10 ай бұрын

Thank you White sand is my next destination now, i haven't heard of her in stormlights tho

I suppose you covered it when you mention the 17th shard, but I think Demoux deserves a special mention since he's a semi-prominent solo character throughout Mistborn who then later joins the 17th shard for unknown reasons, more than likely with the help of Harmony since he's _most likely_ being fed atium in one form or another through this avenue.

Reading the cosmere when you don’t know about worldhoppers and realmatic theory: huh When you do: HUH

@RavensRants

3 жыл бұрын

Lol the Cosmere is such a multi-layered read

Along with the creation of the Cosmere itself, the inclusion of world, hoppers was absolutely brilliant and probably like most people here.Brandon quickly moved to the top of my favorite fantasy author list.

I am astounded every single time at your sub count. you are going to BLOW up

Sigzil is also an independent worldhopper (Wit's apprentice in/before stormlight archive) :_)

You mentioned that we do not know where Vasher and Vivienna are on Roshar, but we definitely do. Vivienna is in Shadsmar looking for vain for Nightblood that's given to Szeth, and Vasher calls himself Zahel and is the sword master that is among the Ardents in the Kholin war camp and later in Urithiru

My guy missed Demoux, and Galladon (they showed up on roshar in the pure lakes)

@RavensRants

3 жыл бұрын

They're part of the 17th Shard. Thought it would be a bit redundant to mention the same people twice :P

@adeyemioyemade1631

3 жыл бұрын

@@RavensRants are they? I might need a reread because I completely forgot this fact 🤣

@feritperliare2890

Жыл бұрын

@@adeyemioyemade1631 yeah they are the people that ask about hoid in the pure lake the descriptions fit

@QCreyton

6 ай бұрын

​@@RavensRantsthat's not mentioning the same people twice, people and organisations are a different thing.

It may be English semantics but I wouldn’t say we know they’re a primarily Roshar organization just that we’ve seen them the most there. It’s obvious they’re on many worlds from the kinds of investiture they possess.

Want to avoid spoikers in a worldhoper video? What a lad

@RavensRants

3 жыл бұрын

Lol I try to avoid spoilers wherever possible

@ThreiasFB

3 жыл бұрын

@@RavensRants and its great xD it just made laugh until i read one of the heart comments

I’d be interested to see some deeper spoiler filled (clearly labeled, of course) dives into some of these subjects. At some point. I know you got a lot on your proverbial KZread plate.

@RavensRants

3 жыл бұрын

Eventually for sure :)

@maximeteppe7627

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this video ends up like a list of the organizations and individuals name, but without even a description of those and with most of their known goals obscured, I feel like this video is more frustrating than useful for new or seasoned readers. If TW.Raven wants to make another worldhopper guide in the future, may I suggest mentioning the list of stories where each given organization or character appears and a physical description as well. I also feel like you needn't be quite so squimish about spoilers either, since, for instance, knowing that the ghostbloods are worldhoppers is already a bit of a spoiler in itself, and generally the subject of worldhopper is inherently spoilery anyway, so I think it's fine to dwelve deeper, with the proper warnings at least.

@joshhoehne8281

3 жыл бұрын

@@maximeteppe7627 - I don’t know about all that. While I can agree that it’s a bit light on information, wasn’t that the point of this video? Truly a non spoilery introduction to the subject. Just enough to help keep an eye out for these particular names without weakening the fun of piecing the puzzle together. But also yeah, I too would like to see a deeper dive with all of the who what when where and why’s that can be fit in. The Cosmere is a big place, and we’ve got time.

@maximeteppe7627

3 жыл бұрын

​@@joshhoehne8281 Of course, but I think that even as an introduction it falls short. I'd prefer a format where a character of faction is introduced, with identifying features described to help recognize them whenever we cross there paths. then the works where they appear as cameo could be listed. And finally the work where backgrounds and motives are most clearly explored is named. Even without spoilers it could be a better way to provide a guide to track down and understand world hoppers. As it stands the video ends up being a list of names, without providing much information about which books to find them in, and with mostly lacking or even deceiving information about their motives - and their planets of origin, which half the time don't appear in their respective novels, even less on their covers.

@joshhoehne8281

3 жыл бұрын

@@maximeteppe7627 - Gotta admit, what you’re describing does sound rather nice. Especially the “identifying features to help recognize them whenever we cross (their) paths” bit. Just imagining the extra thrills I could have gotten the first time reading through the Cosmere and being able to pick out all of the Worldhoppers as we’re introduced to them, even without knowing all of their story at that point. I’m smiling now. Overall I see your points, and mostly agree. But I still think this video was fine for what I believe it was trying to be plus its short run time. I’d like to see the format expand in the direction of a short and simple primer like this one is, with a second “intermediate”, longer dive not long after. Like the next day or so. Possibly even film them both at the same time, then it’s “just” editing. Then if interest is high enough, a full on spoiler and theory filled episode.

Thanks again for the video Raven! I finished Bands of Mourning the other day. How is your era 2 read going?

@RavensRants

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty good actually! I'm on Shadows of Self and kinda contemplating just jumping into Bands right after I'm done (which I normally wouldn't do). We'll see how I feel when I finish it :)

@iveybullard8988

3 жыл бұрын

@@RavensRants Thats what i did and i have no regrets! I try to switch up what i read so i dont get burned out.

Storm it I was just about to go to sleep and then I found your channel. Rust and ruin

@RavensRants

2 жыл бұрын

Lol 😂

Hmm. We have the constellation map for seeing the worlds, but what is the perspective of that star map? Where is looking up in the sky and mapping that labeling each of the world's?

@SoulfulKira

Жыл бұрын

I don't think they're simply planets away. In the Cosmere and in Kriss notes it's mentioned it's much larger than our solar system, since each of these planets has their own planets, moons, and suns that aren't visible to other planets. That stands to reason they are _quite_ far apart though somewhere together in the same galaxy.

Request: link the videos mentioned in the description?

Apparently we do know where Vivienne and Asher went. They are in roshar and are very much in the story is you know what to look for ;)

Its weird to think about how all 3 dead members of the 5 scholars where all killed by Vasher

@MorriganReads

Жыл бұрын

And seeing as Yesteel was teased as a villian for the sequel, he might go 4 for 4

Just like the video that covered the spiritual realm, I have no idea where you got half of this information! It's been a while since I read Mistborn: Secret History, one of the major stories dealing with worldhopping, but I don't remember anything about Silverlight.

@RavensRants

3 жыл бұрын

Silverlight is mostly mentioned in Arcanum Unbounded and potentially a few offhand references here and there :)

@iveybullard8988

3 жыл бұрын

I had no clue where all the info came from either. I figured it came from a WoB or the short stories.

@RavensRants

3 жыл бұрын

@@iveybullard8988 A lot of information comes from offhand references, WOBs, obscure mentions in books, etc. I also get a ton of my information from the official wiki and the 17th Shard's podcast and fansite. Basically just a lot of digging around and you'll find most of what you're looking for XD

Which book is the info on Silverlight and Khriss from? I believe that the Ire was from Mistborn: A Secret History but can't remember Silverlight. Also, which organisation is the map maker Nazh in?

@RavensRants

3 жыл бұрын

It's in Arcanum Unbounded. And Nazh is an assistant to Khriss

@fantasylore8236

2 жыл бұрын

Nazh is from Threnody I believe

@sangamchauhan3564

8 ай бұрын

Khriss first introduced in White sand graphics novel, it's easy to read just 3 volumes, but if you don't like graphic novels, then you can listen to their graphic audiobook, It's awesome to hear.

@Dragonited

4 ай бұрын

The Ire is not from Mistborn/Scadrial. They do have a stronghold in the Cognitive Realm in Scadrial, though they are not originally from there. They're as he mentions from Sel and are ancient Elantrians that left Sel long before the Reod happened.

What about Azure in Oathbringer?

@RavensRants

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure I mentioned Vivenna in the video

@brianschmahl144

2 жыл бұрын

@@RavensRants It might help to mention their aliases as well. I was confused as well and had to look it up.

@bunionl382

2 жыл бұрын

She's was mentioned, she first appeared in Warbreaker

Congrats on your 666th subscriber!

@RavensRants

3 жыл бұрын

Woohoo!

Nice

@RavensRants

3 жыл бұрын

Lol thanks :)

Which book(s) is Chris in?

@Blastnikov

2 жыл бұрын

She’s a main character in White Sand!

@bretsheeley4034

Жыл бұрын

She also makes an cameo in one of the Era 2 Mistborn books.

Shortform is optimal for quick reference vids.👍

POV the seventeen shard, GET HOID

What about Wit?

@Hunni125

2 ай бұрын

Hoid

@robertshick8992

2 ай бұрын

@@Hunni125 missed that one in audiobook lol

Thaidakar is Kelsier

We do know where Vasher is, though.

@RavensRants

2 жыл бұрын

We don't know exactly where on Roshar

@knoxverdex3228

2 жыл бұрын

@@RavensRants isnt vasher sahel? he is on roshar teaching swordsmen ship to the kolins

@Gator5000e

Жыл бұрын

Yep. He’s Zahel and we learn his location and a bunch about him in Rhythm of War during his conversation with Kal.

Now do it again with spoilers.

All? Sir, even as of the making of this video that was barely a tenth of the known world hoppers. There were more than twice this many worldhoppers that showed up in just the first stormlight archive book.

South African?

@RavensRants

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed 😉

@heindutoit4810

3 жыл бұрын

Nice man. Same here. Great video! I'm reading warbreaker now and it's amazing. I've also read the first 3 SLA books. Is there anyone other books to read as well before rereading SLA to catch these world hoppers?

@RavensRants

3 жыл бұрын

Lol your name gave it away XD I'd say you definitely want to read the first Mistborn Trilogy (and Mistborn: Secret History) before Rhythm of War. And if you can, Elantris too. In fact, while not 100% required, being fully caught up on the Cosmere before RoW makes it an amazing read because of how Cosmere heavy that book is

@heindutoit4810

3 жыл бұрын

@@RavensRants awesome! Thanks for the hot tip!

@Kk-fj5tn

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was about to ask...automatic subscribe...

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@AberrantKoala

Жыл бұрын

Not Safe For Veil?

Wow this is very outdated LOST METAL SPOILERS AHEAD Thaidakar is Kelsier. The Ghostbloods are primarily dedicated to protecting Scadrial at any cost.

@fahadtahir9942

Жыл бұрын

That's how time works yes