I think it's really interesting that more non-career victors survived than careers. I can't fully articulate why, but I find it kinda of sad? The career districts were so loyal, they did everything the capitol wanted, but in the end, only two of their victors survived. The capitol did nothing for them.

@Lonovavir

6 ай бұрын

Just like how actual revolutionaries turned tyrants tend to betray their most loyal followers when they fall or during their ascent to power.

@daanbruijns7465

6 ай бұрын

Given that the rebels won. It was no wonder that more victors from districts that sided with the rebellion survived. Plus the victors that did survived, almost all of them were the faces of the rebellion or had some part in it. The most interesting thing is how enobaria could survive

@dumbghost3109

6 ай бұрын

​@daanbruijns7465 the carreer districts were the first ones to join the rebels.

@sophiaruizuvalle2523

5 ай бұрын

A commander in the rebelion was a district 2 victor and she's not in the remaining victors meeting in the end

@dariag7577

5 ай бұрын

Because careers were targeted both by rebels, as they were seen as alliances of the Capitol, and the Capitol's forces, as they were seen as potential rebels.

I think the 75th contestants were secretly selected based on skill and star power. Snow wanted to insure Katniss death by both sending in the most lethal contestants AND the ones most likely to steal the attention due to their popularity. Like a very popular brother-sister team to tug on the heart strings. If Mags had not volunteered there would even have been another pair of lovers in the arena. Plutarch probably had a say and manipulated the selection in favor of his plot too, where he could. "This arena will be especially trap focused. Beetee and Wiress should be able to do a lot with that and are not above surprise mass murder"

@TheOtherBoobJustDropped

4 ай бұрын

Interesting, if true that would mean Haymitch’s name was intentionally put in the 12 reaping pile and not Peeta’s, which makes sense because I think Haymitch was much more of a threat to Snow than Peeta

I just realised .... of course there wouldn't be careers before the 11th games!! There's no career in winning and just being sent home to be as before .... it can only become a career once there's a victors' village and so on!

@sarahthomas8670

Ай бұрын

That’s very true !!!

Honestly never thought about having a favourite character, there’s just ones I like and dislike. If I had to pick one though, it would be Buttercup, he really lives up to his 9 lives

My favorites are Finnick and Joanna. I love Finnick because he’s used for something he can’t control so he finds a way to use that bend his circumstances to his favor. He never shows his all until he’s backed into a corner. I love Joanna because even in impossible circumstances she never loses her wit and she never lets anybody silence her. She loses everything and still continues to exist waiting for a chance to burn it all down and protect others from facing the same fate. I also love characters who claim they don’t care but actually care a lot.

@briannabliss1530

6 ай бұрын

Johanna is not a career, but she is a favourable victor.

@llRocketll

6 ай бұрын

@@briannabliss1530 ik I mean characters in general.

That is a good point that I haven’t heard anyone else say before. If Cato would’ve killed Peeta and somehow also got Katniss, he would have been ecstatic up until the point when his own mentor would’ve then explain to him that he only killed the favorites of the cross lovers but also the chances of a double Victor, which would have probably caused him to be unfavorable in the eyes of the capital. And the twisting emotions that that entails could have caused more mental issues.

Snow didn't die from tuberculosis. The blood from his mouth, seen in several places in the movie, were "from sores that will never heal" according to Finnick, because he would often have to ingest some of the poisons he used to kill his rivals. I'm sure he had antidotes, but the poisons would still do some damage to his mouth tissues. Katniss noted the smell of blood beneath the perfume of roses during her interview with him in the Capitol before his trial. In both book and movie, he is torn apart and trampled to death by the spectators who came to watch his execution. When Katniss killed Coin instead, the spectators overwhelmed the barriers they were kept behind and mobbed Snow.

Can we take a moment to appreciate the actress' naming of unnamed District 4 girl? Marina is such a good name, and totally on theme for District 4. A+.

While Annie likely wasn’t popular due to her mental state, Katniss also states that she doesn’t clearly remember Annie and her winning due to it being the year that her father was killed. She was distracted from the games by her survival. Annie is very much a reflection of Katniss as someone who’d survive after a partnership with their district partner and lose their mind without them.

There’s Something I find very interesting the way Lucy gray won the games, and how her singing and the colourful snakes was actually representing how the capital view the games and the tributes themselves. The only tribute who lived was the one who gave the capital what they wanted. A performance, singing a song (playing the game the way capital wants) finally giving them something enjoy so instead of suffocating her like the rest they instead embrace Lucy. They’re an audience clapping after watching a play

Love this video. I really liked your comparison of Annie and Cato. I'd never thought of them being similar before but there really are interesting parallels. It would have been cool to see more if he'd won.

@oceanunknown

6 ай бұрын

Thank you!

My favorite victor is definitely Cashmere because of her almost defiance to the capital. Because of her past i like to believe that maybe she didn't want to win or be a career in 75th games. This would also explain why in the movie Cashmere acts along with Gloss and the other careers to attack the rebel group, however, Gloss is killed easily, but she still runs straight at the girl with the axe. In the youtube series you referred to, "The Tales if The Hunger Games", during the narration of the 75, Cashmere was shown to be scared in the arena. Also during the reaping she looked around when her name was called and seemed almost distraught that no one had volunteered in her place. I fully believe that this was true. During Cashmere's interview when she says that she couldn't stop crying that could have been true. I also believe that she mentored Glimmer, because of their similar strategies. Thank you for reading. And also amazing video and great work! Im very happy that this video was made! ❤️

I feel the careers had a disadvantage in the 75th games. Every winner has defeated careers, but the other districts have much more abnormal and hard to predict winners

Love that collectively we’ve made that fan edit of the second quarter quell cannon. I WISH they had added that scene into Catching Fire

@Vanilla-Frogs

5 ай бұрын

Wait what

@hollyumbreon

4 ай бұрын

​@@Vanilla-FrogsThere's an incredible fan made film of Haymitch's games! We've all just collectively decided it's canon atp just kinda by accident

@Vanilla-Frogs

4 ай бұрын

@@hollyumbreon ohhh I know that

I've always had a weird soft spot for Clove. Cato as well, but especially Clove. I think there was just something about the glimpses of humanity you occasionally see under all that brutality, especially when it comes to their relationship with each other. I always loved Foxface too. I adored her intelligence and the way it showcased that violence wasn't the only way to play the game.

I read recently, and I think it makes a lot more sense than any other theory, that District 4 may be a "career" district, in the sense that their children are trained for eventual participation in the games... but not a "volunteer" district, in the sense that they have special candidates that are raised from birth to volunteer. Otherwise... it just doesn't make any sort of logical sense for Finnick to volunteer at 14, or for Annie to have been a volunteer at all. Because why have volunteer careers and not wait until they're older so they have the best possible chance of winning? Just because Katniss _believes_ that Finnick volunteered doesn't necessarily make it true, and I don't think it's ever explicitly stated from anybody who actually knows (Katniss was, I believe, 6 or 7 during Finnick's games). I think this also makes a great case for good worldbuilding, that "career" doesn't necessarily mean the same thing for every district. If District 4 is considered a "career" district, but it _doesn't_ actually have hand-picked children who are raised from infancy with the intention that they would eventually volunteer, but rather, District 4 trains _all_ their children for the Games, just in case.

@davidfairweather3301

Ай бұрын

This is basically true. The prequel shows that district 1 and 2 are the capitol loyalists whereas district 4 just happened to have an advantage in the games due to their district trade. District 4 were also one of the first districts to rebel. They are more of an honorary career district

I never realized how Roman-heavy the names were in the Hunger Games franchise. Wow.

The video Overall is pretty good, but the Background music is completly driving me insane!🙈

omg i thought you had way more viewers?? your last career video is so good!!

I've always thought the careers were so interesting. While Katniss percieved them as monsters (justifiably so, given her circumstances) and they're often painted as just violent brutes, we have no idea what sort of psychological conditioning they were fed as kids, nor do we know how many of them went on some downhill spiral or were forced to retain a persona of perfection. The other tributes are tragic, but the careers are a special flavor of victim. Oh, and my favorites are Finnick, Haymitch, and Johanna.

@sarahthomas8670

Ай бұрын

I agree. When I was younger I used to hate them and get so confused why they were so mean to the other districts . Now I see them as victims aswell

@traerichard

Ай бұрын

Love johanna!

you did not just do That to all of us at the end of the video

Does anyone else think the Careers are intentionally in the games at the Capitol's behest? It's a good way to create a guaranteed killing spree, pits districts against each other and gives the Capitol some allies.

THANK YOU so much for this deep dive! And OMG, I didn't realize that Gwendoline Christie played Commander Lyme! I adore her performances, and now need to rewatch HG!

@oceanunknown

6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!

I know after Lucy gray Snow and The Other Gamemakers Went Full on Hell On The District 12 Tributes In The Games

Love these hunger game analysis videos and your makeup looks accompanying them! Would love for you to continue about other sections of the hunger games series! Maybe an analysis of the capitol citizens that we get to know eg effie, cinna, flavius octavia venia etc…

@oceanunknown

6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!

I’d say my favorite characters are Haymitch, Finnick, Johanna, & Peeta

Source on Snow having Teberculosis? I thought it was open sores/ulcers in his mouth from drinking so much poison + antidotes over the years?

@dirtyqueen9683

6 ай бұрын

Just the question I had! 🤔

great analysis - if I can leave some feedback I find that the choice of background music (and the volume) makes it difficult to concentrate

@oceanunknown

6 ай бұрын

Understandable! I will make sure to fix it in future videos!

So excited! Been (patiently) waiting/hoping for another detailed perspective from you! Happy new years!

Hey there! Just found your channel, I watched the previous career tributes video and I love your perspective! Gotta say tho, I'd follow your explanations way more easily with a more subtle soundtrack, I found this one too invasive and I had to pause a few times due to overstimulation 👽 keep up with the good stuff!

@oceanunknown

6 ай бұрын

Thank you, and definitely it's something I'm going to fix for the future

Really loved your two analysis videos of the career tributes

@oceanunknown

6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!

awesome video, i love the deep dive into the careers !! i feel like when i first joined the fandom i was very hateful towards them, but as ive gotten older ive also begun to realize they were victims too. i love the comparison of annie and cato, and would love to hear other thoughts you have on her as she is one of the most interesting characters in my opinion !! i think if i had to choose favorites though they'd have to be johanna, rue, and effie !!

@oceanunknown

6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!

Annie is one of the characters id love to have a book about. Her games sounding interesting and i think shes such a tragic and underrated character.

i would love to see anne's games

The Careers are notorious for having a large number of victors. Kinda sad to know that of all the victors that the Careers had, only two of them survived past the second rebellion

I see many comments complaining about the background music and I'm not sure why. I literally didn't notice it until I read comments pointing it out.

@i.b.640

Ай бұрын

Same.

I loved your previous career video and was excited for this one, but I had to pause because the background music is driving me insane. If you could upload this one again without the music, or much lower music volume, I would love to watch it

i literally just watch your other video yesteday so glad you made this vid!

Oh yay! I just watched the careers of the 74th games video the other day. Glad to see you made another one! The careers are such fascinating characters, and it is lowkey surprising that we don’t know more about them (especially the boy from district 2 who won the 73rd games!!). I found your comparison of Annie and Cato very thought provoking! My favorite characters at the moment are Johanna, Finnick, Peeta, and Katniss.

imagine someone you might be friends with dying in the games then getting reaped the year after only to win 😨💀

This is awesome, would love to hear you talk about all the victors re reaped in the quarter quell!

@oceanunknown

6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much! Definitely will consider that!

YESSS!!! So excited for this after the last one! Thanks for sharing!

@oceanunknown

6 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Love the way you dive into the characters and plot so well!! Btw your makeup is so stunning and creative! 😍💗

🎉🎉it's here, another Great video that I'll watch way to much 😊 happy new-years ✨️🎊

Great video!

YESSS I CANT WAIT TO WATCH THIS (and probably rewatch a bunch of times too!)

such a good video!! thank u for all your research 🥰

@oceanunknown

6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!

Just stumbled upon your channel. Very well made content. Keep up the good work!

@oceanunknown

6 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Love your video! But I definitely recommend pulling out the background music, it can be very distracting. Sorry if I'm overstepping, but if you like the background music as a creator, feel free to continue using it!

omg the tales of the hunger games shout out I loveeee that channel

you are so adorable!!!! i love your style so so much!

@oceanunknown

6 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Side note: your makeup is always incredible!! You're very skilled with cosmetics:)

@oceanunknown

6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!

loved the video and loved the ending hahahaha

I’m so excited to watch this one! New fan of yours ❤

My favorites are Katniss, Peeta, Johanna, and Finnick:)

Your eye makeup is incredible!❤ my favourite colour too

@oceanunknown

6 ай бұрын

Thank you!

ur makeup is so cool!!! it kinda reminds me of princess amalthea from the last unicorn

I love the old gen 5 pokemon music! very nostalgic for me buuut it's a bit too loud in contrast to your voice and i kept having to rewind to focus on what you were saying- this could just be me as i have adhd and im sorry if this is nitpicky 😢 loved this video & your other hunger games videos though ^_^ Im definitely going to check out your pokemon video essays

@oceanunknown

6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much! And I totally understand and will fix this issue in the future!

you get a like just for the meme at the end. :D

Great vid! The music is so unnecessary though 😭

I would love to learn more.

the video at the end - i cant LMAO

The video on the way out. Took me out.

I really want ti watch this but the music is too loud and distracting

I love your makeup

I would try to be a career no matter the district I’m in- it’s the best chance to survive

@Gooppert

6 ай бұрын

💀💀

@ariannahoward4554

6 ай бұрын

I hope you mean the training aspect and not the volunteering aspect​@@Gooppert

Maybe someone has ideas about this but I never really understood why Finnick got paid. I mean, it is a good thing that he was able to use what he knew in the end to help the rebellion, but when you can force someone to do your bidding like that than what is the purpose of letting people pay them?

@davidfairweather3301

Ай бұрын

Some of them wanted to alleviate their guilt for what they were doing cos they knew finnick wasn’t consenting. So they thought giving him money and presents was them being nice. Getting secrets out of them was probably easy cos they’d probably be intoxicated and knew finnick was capitol property so wouldn’t care about letting off steam about snow.

i love annie so much 🙁

I can’t believe you did this. It’s so sick and twisted. I will never know peace again

Is anyone else getting an insane audio glitch?

i think Ly,me became the President?

I'm sorry but the music is quite loud and distracting

@MistarZtv

6 ай бұрын

I love the music but it's a bit loud in this one.

katniss is thesius not cato. cato is one of the kids being sacrificed

Finnick is my favorite career

I saw a lot of people be confused why district 3, didnt have carrers. Which 8s funny, because thats the smart people. They do the tech, youre better off studying enegnering qmd hope to not be reaped than train and then be 7seless in yo7r future field of work

How come district 3 doesn’t have careers

@davidfairweather3301

Ай бұрын

District 3 isn’t a rich district or capitol loyalists, and based on their intelligence, the capitol probably didn’t want to favour them too greatly cos they could be a potential threat

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