It sucks that I have to reupload this video again!!! I know it's frustrating as a viewer to go through this but it's equally as frustrating as the creator to deal with copyright that takes the whole video. It's like a game of whack-a-mole with all these copyright issues, but I won't let my hard work go the waste!

@HoplessNihilist

Жыл бұрын

Nice vid, even if: -Androids stopped being given fake memories after A2's squadron got rekt -Luciferase exist irl, and the fact that it wards off WCS was discovered on accident

@joshcarrasco2417

Жыл бұрын

Third time the charm! Appreciate the effort

@Astral52_

Жыл бұрын

No worries bud. Amazing video nonetheless

@myangelreol

Жыл бұрын

did you keep the "pdf file" word in the dod1 segment? idk if that's a thing you'd want to keep in a video if you want to get it monetised but there's probably more idk

@justinorper6298

Жыл бұрын

Here we go again

Yoko Taro be like: I will add a crusial part of my story's lore on this promotional pamphlet that will be used only once

@antilivvy7373

4 ай бұрын

That's like most the lore tbh

@grimoireweissfan6969

4 ай бұрын

Dude added lore to PCs

@paramedic2172

2 ай бұрын

"And will only be distributed in Japan 😉"

@tbenigma4817

2 ай бұрын

For 1 hour only and it's only part 1 of that part of the lore if you want part 2 you need to go play a random mmo

@criss3619

Ай бұрын

You're joking right ? 🤕

DrakenNier's timeline is essentially the embodiment of the phrase: "And then it got worse."

@camomurf5182

10 ай бұрын

Up until now, I kept thinking of all the philosophical messages and lessons of the story. Then, I saw this comment. ... ... And now I can't unsee it. XD

@futavadumnezo

10 ай бұрын

Very basic Japanese storytelling.

@MessedUpSystem

10 ай бұрын

And at the same time, of the hope needed to go through this

@xen3588

10 ай бұрын

lol

@elirubio7069

9 ай бұрын

Something went wrong and something that wasn't supposed to happen, happened. That's basically it all

I have studied the lore and timeline of this universe so much, and I still got way too excited to see a video over 6 hours long about it. Thank you for doing this! My favorite rabbit hole to keep diving into.

@AbsolAhm

4 ай бұрын

Can I ask you some stuff if you know all the lore?

I think draken/Nier is the only series that will make me watch a whole 6hr long video from start to finish. Excellent work! I have been enlightened

@syrenity64

2 ай бұрын

I’m definitely watching this soon. But there’s a guy that ranted about pl_badwater_basin for 12 HOURS!!! I watched the whole thing in one sitting……

@alrox9760

2 ай бұрын

And with reincarnation finished and the newest nier concert, yeah we can duplicate the time here

@SnivyO.O

2 ай бұрын

​@@alrox9760 just waiting for this guy to make an update video for that again 😭

just a quick video before the bed

@25meip

4 ай бұрын

Embrace the long

@AskMeWhyYoureStupid

3 ай бұрын

​@@25meip *shlong

@RexCGB

3 ай бұрын

37 mins of sleep is how you know your a King

@ohnaur

2 ай бұрын

don't call me out lmao

You took roughly 2 decades of material from different sources and simplified it for cavemen like me. I can't thank you enough

@alanalb1449

9 ай бұрын

And there are still some lore pieces he didn't cover, like Michael knowing Angelus (yes, Caim Dragon)

@Gabriel-cs6wu

8 ай бұрын

@@alanalb1449 and, Sinoalice

@Lubble-

8 ай бұрын

​@@Gabriel-cs6wuSino Alice? The manga??

@Gabriel-cs6wu

8 ай бұрын

@@Lubble- both, game and manga

@AnakhaSilver

8 ай бұрын

And still missed an entire portion of it given the raids in FFXIV.

Just had a lightbulb lore moment. In Drakengard 2, Legna mentioned an ancient war between the dragons and God/the watchers, and that the dragons were the natural enemy of the Watchers and things associated with them, i.e. the Flower. This is the the same war that occured between humanity and the aliens in Nier's backstory. Cathedral City was the headquarters of the Human war effort, and these humans created the dragons to specifically combat the aliens, with the Flower being one of their weapons. The aliens are described as being plant-like. Maybe the aliens were just another form of the Watchers sent by God to destroy mankind, and their weapon was the flower. Humanity, in Cathedral city, creates the dragons to defeat the flower, and they warred with the flower/Watchers for centuries until the event that sent Cathedral City to Drakengard's world in 856. The humans were advanced and knew about the multiple timelines, which is why they made Accord. After they captured the Flower, they probably tried to uses some technomagic to attempt to send it through time to oblivion, but screwed up and sent the city, the dragons, and the flower to 856 AD in another dimension.

@angeltzepesh1

6 ай бұрын

You know, i wonder what if this entire series is just a cycle of one timeline doing some fucked up shit, influencing another timeline and just repeating over and over, not being a loop of only 2 timelines? For exemple, in an unseen timeline some event happened that sent Cathedral City/Dragons/Black flower to the Drakengard timeline, then the Drakengard timeline sent the Queen Beast/Angelus/Caim to the Nier timeline and next we will have another timeline where something bad will be sent from the Nier timeline?

@JoseGonzalez-mx3nx

4 ай бұрын

​@@angeltzepesh1 What if the memories of all the machines sent at the end of Nier Automata IS what is sent from this timeline to a new one. Idk how that could be a curse for the new timeline but it could be infected. I'm just wildly speculating.

@angeltzepesh1

4 ай бұрын

@@JoseGonzalez-mx3nx it could be, but my bet is we gonna finally learn more about the Kingdom of the Night, something still so ambiguous in the lore.

@theshadowherself

4 ай бұрын

One problem: humans were extinct soon after Nier (~4000), and they were essentially inactive and only existed as Gestalts after ~2100. So it would have had to be Replicants (unlikely) or androids (much more likely) to create dragons, build Cathedral city, and make Accord.

@AManChoosesASlaveObeys

3 ай бұрын

@@theshadowherself Or maybe some Replicants united themselves and became Human again, then went to the Dark Side of the Earth and started to think of "how do we stop this cycle that got 99.9% of us dead". That means that they could have gone to the route of making everything and sending it through time, but it diverged to space and time, which lead them to another timeline instead of their own. All of that can mean that the Cathedral city can go somewhere else in the universe, another place, another franchise, another part which can simply change the outcome of everything, but it all will depend on their different outlook on Human nature. Accord being there, an android, it could be a part of something bigger. Something that makes sure all timelines are in one real path that leads to at least ONE timeline 2 be triumphant.

When i first played nier i had no idea the lore expanded across multiple games and manga andvarious other media, what a fantastic treat, and a beautifully comprised comprehensive guide.

I think my favourite thing about this whole series is how God looked at humanity and went “Absolutely not.”

@MacBunny6978

Жыл бұрын

I can't really blame them

@cannibaletiquette5038

Жыл бұрын

Its hard not to feel for the guy. On the 7th day you rest. And next thing you know, theres blood barf semen body parts pollution an ideological differences everywhere.

@IISuzakuII

Жыл бұрын

Self righteous wet dream.

@TheShockVox

Жыл бұрын

That’s something I didn’t get from the Clemps videos. I love those videos, they got me into this entire franchise, but it’s awesome this video filled even more context in. The God blighting is something I totally missed from Drakengard

@cannibaletiquette5038

Жыл бұрын

@@user-jo8kq5ed4j ........huh?

Crazy how All thats left oh humanity is a server on the moon and an immortal replicant Emil who's lost his memories.

@midgetydeath

Ай бұрын

I think the point of the story is that humanity _IS_ the androids. Because they're human regardless of what their bodies are made of, which is what the story was trying to convey. They also are strongly implied to have some degree of human biology in their construction as well. Most likely in the brain, especially.

It's kinda refreshing how such epic story doesn't really have happy endings. In modern times, full of "good hero saves the world and wins the day" type of stories, having these epic tales of depression, sadness and misery is really interesting.

@alfalldoot6715

10 ай бұрын

There are zero "good heroes save the world" stories anymore. We're all depressed now and you have to be a delusional person to think otherwise completely incapable of living in the world today.

@ck_illust7150

9 ай бұрын

The world these days are depressing enough, if I see another story full of misery, I might as well hang myself

@christiantaylor1495

9 ай бұрын

I think they're a reflection of the viewer. I find them all really positive and wonderful. I've seen multiple people say they wanted to end it all, but found the power to go on living thanks to Nier Automata

@krisztoth8475

9 ай бұрын

I think whats even more interesting is how they managed to essentially make a happy ending without it being a happy ending

@fg009letyrds8

8 ай бұрын

Automata has a good ending though?

Just wanted to say, I’ve listened to this video essay at least a half dozen times all the way through and countless times in part while falling asleep, doing homework, etc. Your way of storytelling, along with Yoko Taro’s sheer madness, have made my objectively favorite video on KZread. So, thank you!

@realitycheck816

9 күн бұрын

Tf ur a psycho

Emil is the last existing essence of humanity in the Nier world. He is the only hope.

@CyberLou

Жыл бұрын

That is probably the most Ironic part about the Lore

@soularth

Жыл бұрын

Right? The last "human" is literally a immortal skelington who now has almost no memory of the rest of us

@johnmills9954

Жыл бұрын

He died btw

@CyberLou

Жыл бұрын

@@johnmills9954 He what now?

@CyberLou

Жыл бұрын

@@johnmills9954 Did he Die in Automata?

I gotta hand it to you, compiling the timeline of arguably one of the most confusing RPG mythos ever created is not an easy feat to accomplish. The amount of time it took for you to make this must've been exhausting, so congratulations on your hard work! 6 hours of lore is exactly what I needed to watch for this week with work being absolute hell.

@Zeiss120

Жыл бұрын

eh? I can follow this far easier than that mess called Kingdom Hearts.

@lightaspected

Жыл бұрын

@@Zeiss120 did you not read the ‘one of’ implying one of several?

@Zeiss120

Жыл бұрын

@@lightaspected yeah I did, and pointed out that it's is lesser and easier to follow than another ONE of them with convoluted wack ass story telling.

@dragonkyn20

Жыл бұрын

@@Zeiss120 Good for you! Your elevated senses must make your family proud.

@Zeiss120

Жыл бұрын

Lol skins a bit thin with you kids these days.

You told this story so coherent and beautifully that I watched this video twice. It feels like this entered my list of top tier story games and I've never touched one of the games.

The detail about kid Nier having to sell himself in order to get money for Yonah's medicine for some reason really stunned me. It was genuinely jarring and made me actually feel bad for this video game character. Maybe because it's a story that could very possibly be happening in the real world even as of right now. I'm not sure, but it is information that genuinely had my jaw hit the floor in disbelief.

The machines having the same shape, design, and consistent head of Emil is something I never noticed - what an incredible piece of visual storytelling. Really tugs at my heart that all machines could have been based off of him.

@Utrilus

Жыл бұрын

I noticed that below the shell they have a machine smile too. So they're absolutely replicating Emil.

@Ezekiel_Allium

Жыл бұрын

​@@Utrilus yeah, I watched the anime today and that really stood out to me at the end of the second episode. It helps explain how they eat as well

@idontplaygames3k296

11 ай бұрын

For the Aliens to decide to imitate Emil and his lower level magic, honestly, is a testament to how strong he was during that war.

@KillerDoh

10 ай бұрын

I never realized that, I wouldn’t think the aliens would try n copy Emil but it also makes sense to copy those who’re strong

@maxentirunos

8 ай бұрын

@@idontplaygames3k296 I mean the higher end would have been the flower finding how / mutating to adapt to non-organic lifeform and absolutely wrecking havoc once more

This story is ALOT darker than I had orginally knew and now it makes a lot more sense but it's still equally confusing and interesting and I enjoy this alot, Thank You

@trevorveillette8415

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the range of the story is what makes it the most confusing. On paper the simple explanation of man and God/monster jump to another earth in another universe while fighting, man beats god/monster. Remains of the god/monster doom humanity, fast forward thousands of years and the only thing remaining is nature and advanced AI. Semi simple explanation. But you expand on it and start talking about watchers being giant floating babies, seeds of destruction, red eye disease, and then project gestalt, gestalt/replicant system, androids and machines having emotions and being just like humans, logic virus being linked to the red eye disease. It's just a really confusing course of transformation/metamorphosis that the franchise goes through, but it makes sense. The most confusing stuff is the crossover stuff of drakengard, but once you understand the basic idea of it, it's not horrible to grasp.

@viderevero1338

Жыл бұрын

Playing Nier Replicant really made me question my thoughts on mortality.

@thesecretone6531

Жыл бұрын

I think it's more on the duality of the two most popular franchise. The Final Fantasy games usually tell a narative of heroes fighting against the odds and winning saving the world and giving hope. Meanwhile, the Drakengard/NieR series is a heavily dark contrast of how everyone dies at the end, so enjoy it while it last type of narrative.

@jakelloyd9482

Жыл бұрын

Also they have strong anti-violence themes. Every playable character in these games enacts pervasive violence, and the world always ends up worse off for it.

@decayinglullaby9963

Жыл бұрын

This is my 3rd time coming back to watch the video im terrified it gets taken down. I feel like I'm understanding the DaVinci code

I've played through drakengard 1 and 3, nier gestalt, nier replicant and Automata multiple times. I thought I had a good grasp on the chronology but you have just blown my mind with this video. I am so impressed with how concisely and clearly you tackled this huge undertaking, I've listened to others try to do it over the years but no one comes close to your level of understanding and ability to convey that through a commentary. It's very impressive. Thank you for taking the time to put this out there, I hope it inspires and has inspired people to go and play the games for themselves because they are so worth it! The Drakengard/Nier storyline is a piece of art, Automata is one of the most incredible experiences gaming has to offer. I love it so much, the emotional journey it takes the player on, it's questioning psychological perspective. It can be so bleak (almost depressing) and yet there is a great deal of beauty to it too. The relationships between Nier, Kaine, Emil, Popola and Devola and then 2B, 9S and A2 give the player moments of warmth too. I can't express how much Nier means to me but thank you again for doing this. It has been really fun listening to the story with such clarity.

The series that made a 22 year old guy who's rarely cried in life cry countless times all throughout. Simply hearing any of these scenes or soundtracks make me cry now. Yoko Taro is as cruel as a creator can be, but the most artful in his field as humanly possible. People say certain games make them feel a way no other game does but this applies most specifically to Nier and Drakengard. These are games like no other.

@JK-ni1qe

6 ай бұрын

Yeah I'll bet you rarely cry.. surrrre

@I_am_a_cat_

6 ай бұрын

I get really emotional over many dumb things because I ruined my brain with drugs when I was younger. I cry at the simplest, dumbest things... and nothing in Nier made me cry once. Especially this video, just distracted by how cringy the play is. Sounds to me like you cry all the time, or just really needed to. One of those.

@gamesstarthere

6 ай бұрын

The comments above really say something about degeneracy on the internet

@mrtruman4339

4 ай бұрын

​@@JK-ni1qeI'm in their situation, what makes you assume that they're lying. 💀

@mrtruman4339

4 ай бұрын

​@@I_am_a_cat_Source: trust me bro.

Long-form lore videos spanning multiple medias are my absolute shit and I want to show my appreciation for you making this video. The Nier series is a series I adore so, so much and this video is the exact thing I needed to scratch my Nier itch. It took me about four days to finish the video but after seeing clips of Drakengard in the end made me want to rewatch the video. Also, Automata's ending will never fail to make me teary eyed.

@PrecioNFL

Жыл бұрын

I searched for a similar video two months ago and found nothing. Glad we finally have an end-all be-all version to understand this series.

@elderlybae

Жыл бұрын

Seriously, I can only rewatch the Clemps videos so many time (the limit of which has not been reached yet!)

@Gaararason

Жыл бұрын

Still to this day no other game or series can make me feel like how nier automata has both throughout the game and in its ending.

@krussyarts

Жыл бұрын

Previously i knew absolutely nothing about the nier series, but as you so fittingly put it; "long-form lore videos spanning multiple medias are my absolute shit" as well. I'm also one to tear up and occasionally sob over a video essay should i find something particularly touching/moving, and i can definitely say that happened multiple times throughout the essay. It's just the tragedy of it all

@KaishaLouise

Жыл бұрын

Long form lore videos are my absolute shit too - I just wish they were easier to find! Usually it's just a case of hope they come across my recommended :') This was incredible though!

As quirky as Yoko Taro is, it is absolutely inspiring how he's been able to *physically manifest these masterpieces* . I, too, want to share my ideas with the world like him.

@traphimawari7760

Жыл бұрын

Read all of his manga, and ngl his work is beyond quirky, like its really friggin dark, like even if it was a manga for a mobile game about fairy tale characters turned into anime tropes, like my dumba55 thought it was just gonna be the average normal gacha game like fate, but he11 nah my man just went full on raep on all the characters, like tbh everything he makes has raep or some form of it, its certainly uncomfortable to read but I can't stop reading it, not to mention it always have short haired girls in it, just Yoko Taro subtly telling people his fetish

@WardofSquid

Жыл бұрын

@Trap Himawari lol, wow I had no idea. "The author's thinly veiled fetish" meme must be accurate😅. Still I admire his grindset, and Automata saved his franchise

@Donnerwamp

Жыл бұрын

@@traphimawari7760 I don't know, I haven't dived into everything by him but so far it all seems more like trauma management than sharing a fetish.

@sleepysartorialist

Жыл бұрын

You can do it!

@Cetra29

Жыл бұрын

I hope you know he is not the only one who writes the stories of the Drakengard franchise. Nier Replicant/Gestalt for example were written by 3 people.

The Nier story really is a combination of "And then it got worse" as well as technology becoming indistinguishable from magic.

@Ezekiel_Allium

6 ай бұрын

More the other way around no? Magic becoming indistinguishable from technology?

@Matthew-ce2hq

5 ай бұрын

I get a “the road to hell is paved with good intentions” vibe too.

@Ultra04channel

5 ай бұрын

​@Ezekiel_Johnson No, not really. If you look at it as a repeating loop, then Cathedral City would just be made of extremely advanced tech that the people of the time would perceive as magic. And it's where most of it comes from.

@Ezekiel_Allium

5 ай бұрын

@@Ultra04channel I see it more as a bootstrap paradox with magic as the item that exists in the timeloop. Where did the darksiders get their magic? From the drakengard universe. Where did cathedral city come from? The nier universe. Even if it was the case that magic is technically some kind of technology incomprehensible to us, there's still the progress from blatantly magic-y looking magic of Nier 1 to Nier Automata's applied magic technology.

@Ultra04channel

5 ай бұрын

​@Ezekiel_Johnson Honestly, either theory works just as well. But it's Yoko Taro, so we'll never have a clear answer. I guess my reasoning for it all being technology, is that it makes the most sense in the loop. Cathedral City is extremely advanced, nearly incomprehensible technology, with two androids designed to protect a bioweapon from being unleashed. The reason I would say for the more magic looking stuff in earlier games, is that it could be even more anomalous and unknown. It's been modified by people who have no idea what they're actually modifying. Think of it like the Mechanicus. The reason why their stuff looks so medieval and antiquated, yet is so advanced, is because they're modifying it and changing it while having no idea what's actually going on.

So just for the record there has been another bit of lore as of February 2024 in the NIER Orchestra (I just saw last night!) So I'll try to summarize it for those who can't get tickets. After 2B and 9S are brought back to life they just end up wandering and living their lives. Until 2B realizes her black box is damaged. Whether this is from faulty parts or from the logic virus is unknown. They both end up looking for anything that can help repair 2B. This eventually leads them both to a copied city like area but it is shown to be a copy of the bunker. In this area they find an artificially made shade. A direct copy of the girl the Postman made friends with in NIER Replicant. They also stumble across several vending machines like transporters. Each one holding small amounts of data about project Gestalt and the replicants. Even NIER himself and Yonah are mentioned in these files! After this encounter they both continue further into this city, encountering numerous machines that they both cut down. This whole time 2B is getting weaker and weaker. Eventually they come to an alien ship, the inside has been remodeled to resemble a church or chapel. They both see several machines praying, a pile of YorHa corpses, and a floating cracked black sphere. 9S scans the sphere learning it is either the ship's power reactor or a control module. Before 9S can find any use for it 2B collapses, finally succumbing to her damaged black box. 9S crying and screaming just wishes he could do anything for them to trade places. In the middle of all this all the YorHa corpses start floating, and eventually 2B's body as well. All of the Corpses have their Black boxes pulled from their bodies and slowly start to be shredded into glittering black particles around the room. They circle the black sphere and eventually flow into 2B's black box repairing it. 9S crying with delight Hugs 2B not knowing fully what happened. While 2B slowly hugs 9S she also does not see the floating Black orb. From this point on they both decide to wander the wastes again. (I didn't quite catch what their goals were after this. Why they continue to wander the wastes. But I believe it was something to the effect of looking for a way to break a curse. I believe it was referencing the curse of mortality but I'm unsure.)

@TheVanishedWolf

4 ай бұрын

no news on A2 ?

@Arowsrevenge

4 ай бұрын

@@TheVanishedWolf sadly there was no mention of A2 at all in the Orchestra :/

@TheVanishedWolf

4 ай бұрын

@@Arowsrevenge oh too bad, thanks man !

@MakeSureYouCleanUp

4 ай бұрын

I wonder how this will play in Nier: Reincarnation. Right now the memories of humans are being transported back to earth, I wonder if they'll run into this 2B and 9S

@saschaberger3212

3 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing love

After having played Nier Replicant and getting lost down the rabbit hole of the Wiki, I commend you for the titanic effort to gather so many sources into a coherent timeline! Simply outstanding! Thank you!

@IKMcGwee

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I had a good idea of how Nier 1 (lazy) tied into 2, but this cleared up the parts where I'd go "not sure why this, but this is the result". Led to a funny interaction when 2 came out actually. 2 was the one that most people started with and a lot of people didn't even know it was 2. So when the store clerk was describing it to me, about how the androids are trying to save humanity, I went "but wait, I'm pretty sure humans were doomed in 1". He had no idea, so anyone how played 1 already new the "big" secret about humans already haha .

@Crowens

11 ай бұрын

​@@IKMcGweeyeah my friend is trying to keep me in the dark about automata now that I'm going through it but she didn't play replicant so she has no idea it's already known

@IKMcGwee

11 ай бұрын

@@Crowens hahaha nice

I am astounded by the amount of work that must have gone into this. I love DrakenNieR lore so much, and I don't think I've ever seen such a complete video chronicle of the timeline. I appreciate this work so much! I hope to see more when NieR Re[in]carnation's stories can be included as well!

@thegamergang777

Жыл бұрын

You are so nice for this! And he’s amazing at these videos

@Necrophadez

Жыл бұрын

You're an awesome person!

@thewitchertales

9 ай бұрын

Creator doesnt even respond to a 25$ donation? Wtf?

@cecimaree

9 ай бұрын

@@thewitchertales Well, I mean, my donation was me saying thanks for putting so much work into something that entertained me for over 6 hrs. It would be like if you did something for someone and then they say "Thank you!" and then you say "Thank you!" and then it goes round and round. Lol! 😅 I just hope that the financial gratitude helps them to continue to be motivated to make this sort of content 😊💗

@thewitchertales

9 ай бұрын

@cecimaree video was amazing i enjoyed it and watched the whole thing. You foing that as well generated alot of revenue for him, then you donated on top of that.. he could've at least said, "Glad you enjoyed it." Not saying he needed to thank you, but he could've at least acknowledged it. I feel that it's rude he didn't.

"Hey Nier, if you kill the Shadow Lord you and everyone else in the world will contract the black scrawl and die horribly." There, I created another timeline.

When I first played NieR Automata the only thing in my mind was "I'm going to play this game about a hot robot killing things". I wasn't even that interested in the game and I definitely wasn't prepared for what was comming, specially for what pod 042 said at 06:22:12. Now I have all the achievements on Steam, watched a six hour video about the lore of all games and I am also planning a tatoo on my left arm. One thing (that I think) you didn't mention is the amount of references of NieR Replicant in NieR Automata. If you only played Automata a lot of things will go unnoticed, but if you played Replicant before Automata, you will see Yoko Taro playing with your feelings from the beggining. Thanks for the video, I'm going to subscribe so I can see more videos like this.

I personally like to think A2 just left Pascal alone (which is something you can do). Robots always fail and never learn from their mistakes because they never GET to learn. Pascal has to learn from this to grow.

@adnpositivo333

Жыл бұрын

Like humans

@DanKaschel

Жыл бұрын

Erasing pascal's memories is legit the worst outcome

@EnrocaLaRoca

Жыл бұрын

@@DanKaschel That's what I did, and I can fully confirm that. If I knew it would've been so horrible I would've just killed him on the spot (since by then I didn't know you could just leave).

@DanKaschel

Жыл бұрын

@@EnrocaLaRoca I can't bring myself to leave. Just feels so cowardly haha

@JasonMC-wc1jr

Жыл бұрын

​@@EnrocaLaRoca Doesn't pascal commit suicide if you just leave?

The sheer dedication Yoko Taro had to keep pushing these games out despite all the odds and Square Enix is something truly worthy of admiration

@FhtagnCthulhu

Жыл бұрын

Huge props to Yosuke Saito for fighting for it too.

@Grimoire_Bruh

Жыл бұрын

@@FhtagnCthulhu Indeed

Waiting for next Yoko Taro game upon: 1) Kingdom of Night 2) Aliens

It doesn`t matter that everything is designed to end huh. One of the most detailed and most intriguing videos on youtube, really absorbed me with the story telling and amount of details put in. It must`ve took so, so, so much time to make this video. And here i am finishing this in almost 1 sitting. Absoultely loved it. Nier universe is one of the saddest and most beautifull storiest that i`ve ever heard or played thru. It`s so surprising, the amount of connections and story between the games, and you put it all together perfectly. Will always be my favorite game, and most definetelly, story. Well, besides, we are perpetually trapped in a never ending spiral of life and death.

@JtothePrez

17 күн бұрын

I'd argue that we're not trapped in a cycle of life and death. Actually, I'd argue that death isn't the opposite of life. Life and death are just portals into which one enters and exits the human experience. We don't really become nothing after death, either, as our bodies continue to be a part of nature and have a purpose in it. It's not so much a never ending spiral of life and death so much as it a never ending cycle of nature that I think we're all pretty lucky to be a part of.

I just love automatas ending E, the fact that the pods the things farthest from acting/looking or interested in humans are the ones who got closest to what makes us human special, hope and the will to fight against great odds. They became the closest to what encompasses the best of us

@christiantaylor1495

9 ай бұрын

And in Drakengard 3, Zero was always betrayed by humans, but in the end succeeds thanks to disciples, an android, and a dragon who were totally loyal to her and had her back and even sacrificed themselves to help her ❤ The only people she ever smiled at in her whole life other than men in the brothel - probably - were Decadus and Mikhail, and she would have smiled at Octa too, if it were possible. And Accords interference with the timeline is akin the the player (you) interfering with the timeline in the ending E credits 🥳

@MemeLordCrusader

8 ай бұрын

Mmm tasty word salad

Man this is probably my favorite video on KZread LOL. I've just casually been going through it like 10 minutes at a time while I eat but often end up just sitting there listening for longer and longer. So much great lore in these games.

Fantastic job on creating this video, people say that short videos are nowadays trend because they're easier to enjoy since they're quicker to get to the point and all, but man i love this long timelines explanation ones. Initially i was gonna watch just a bit, ended up watching the hole thing at once. Purely perfection.

I love the massive amount of easter eggs throughout the games. The 6 doves at the end of nier automata, when A2 is seen resting, reminded me of Zero and her sisters. I wonder if that was done on purpose and if there's any greater meaning behind it, or just a silly little reference.

@rudolfambrozenvtuber

Жыл бұрын

The final boss of the *incredibly lore-important* FF14 crossover event kinda-sorta implies there's a little more to it

@MemoryMori

Жыл бұрын

Fnuk... if you put it that way...nothing is coincidence :D Yoko Taro, you glorious bastard...

@Peeplii

Жыл бұрын

I also kinda thought it was a nod to either them or the fact all the disciples turn into doves

@idontplaygames3k296

11 ай бұрын

​@@MemoryMoriNaw dude is a mad genius when it comes to world building and story telling.🤯🤯

@DSoulA3

8 ай бұрын

I DID NOT THINK OF IT THAT WAY! YOU'RE ON TO SOMETHING! :O

I love games that have a long running lore across different titles, which is why I love stories that have references, Easter eggs, cameos, and intertwined timeline/storylines. Having NieR be the first game series I played that has all of this, I've been seeking lore videos since I've only played automata and replicant. But with this, you've filled the void I had for the rest of the lore I didn't know. Now I want to play the drakengard games

@Astral52_

Жыл бұрын

Also man, reuploading sucks but it's worth watching every time

@Hydus

Жыл бұрын

I assume you tried the "legend of heroes" games?

@Astral52_

Жыл бұрын

@@Hydus not yet, but if it comes to that then I'll have to pull a Gigguk and play every single one of them someday

@CliveHiveFF16

Жыл бұрын

Have fun in Drakengard 1 king

@Leopectus1986

Жыл бұрын

​@Astral52 Do it. I started the first game in the Trails series almost 2 years ago. I'm wrapping up game 9 right now (which is as many that are localized). Single greatest video game franchise story of all time. An amazing experience. I think you'll love them. That said, this video is a fantastic format for a similarly deep and convoluted story. Great work!!

Now all we need is a lore summary of Nier Reincarnation, which unfortuantely barely has any videos talking about it on youtube. I heard a few theories and the lore seems to get even crazier

@calebjtachenko

Ай бұрын

I really hope now that the game is done, someone compiles all the lore somehow

actually insane video dude, idk how you do what you do. I originally watched your zombies timeline video forever ago and loved it, but when i stumbled upon your channel again the other day i noticed this video and i could not have been more thrilled. the amount of time it must take for you to research all this information, compile it together, write an INSANELY long script, and personally narrate everything, i have an insane level of respect for your dedications to videos. nier is probably one of my favorite rpg stories ever and you absolutely did it justice in this video. there were a lot of things in here that i never actually knew lol. thanks so much for this video, i know myself and lots of other people really appreciate it.

One note about replicant Nier's encounter with Kaine at the beginning. She doesn't attack. She tells him and Weiss to get lost. It's Nier who attacks, thinking she's a shade. In the game, if you don't attack her, she just stands there guarding. She never attacks first. EDIT: Just realized I only played ver 1.22. Maybe it's different in the original? But even after the first fight with Hook, Nier apologizes for attacking her.

@EnrocaLaRoca

Жыл бұрын

Another things I realised during route E: the very first shades you ever find after the prologue... aren't hostile. If you stand there they won't attack you (I think even if you wack them they won't try to fight back).

@ceruleanrock2265

Жыл бұрын

@@EnrocaLaRocaSame with Adam in Automata.

I think its kinda awesome Yoko Taro keeps adding to the lore. Like adding Reincarnations protagonist to the Red Eye lore was such a surprise. Also glad my footage of the story could be of use.

@whooah

Жыл бұрын

What??? I need to finish that game 🤔🤔

I'm so glad you made this video. I've been passionate about Nier story but even by having read the book "The strange world of Yoko Taro" I couldn't understand everything. You put so much works into this video and the quality is really great. I can't imagine how much time you spend on this and I cannot thanks you enough. This will probably be one of my favorite video of all time. I absolutly don't know about Nier: Rehincarnation and if in the future you make a video explaining it I will be very happy to watch it.

I chanced upon this video and played this as my background sound while getting chores done around the house, but felt compelled to sit down once the narration got to start on draken 3's story. As if I thought that it wasn't possible to make me appreciate the lore more than I already do, Nier especially, your video totally gave me a newfound respect and adoration for the franchise. Thank you for putting so much love and research into making this video!

lol the video got privated while I was watching, time to continue

@keza_9301

Жыл бұрын

Same here I'm doing the most mundane work and it stopped lmao

@pancakes_go2940

Жыл бұрын

same lmao

@vergilsparda80

Жыл бұрын

Bro same and I was about an hour or so to the end like what the hell

@danielpetersen2307

Жыл бұрын

Looks like a party in here, mind if I join?

@afolabiisiaka3117

Жыл бұрын

Yoooo

Love how NieR has been the greatest symbol of subversion of expectations. Every side thinks they're right, but when you peel the layers you learn it's what leads them to doom.

@Utrilus

Жыл бұрын

Being a hero, but without the plot armor which make all the trials worth it.

@FhtagnCthulhu

Жыл бұрын

So good. I think it a story that really needs to be played for the full impact. Playing NieR it is so easy to accept the story you are told and fall into NieR's sense of righteousness. When you learn the truth, you the player are being betrayed as well.

@andrewsanusi8462

Жыл бұрын

That’s what I love about the NieR franchise as a whole the main characters that we love aren’t essentially “the good guys” even if they might view themselves that way and are flawed individuals, it just makes them feel more real.

Just seen this now, somehow. Officially my new fav video on YT god bless you for bringing probably the most clear and concise version of the events of DrakenNieR. I can't imagine the amount of work put into this.

I'm only through this about 1/3 of the way but THANK YOU. This is the perfect summary of the complete story. I don't have access to the drama CDs, manga etc, never played any Drakengard game, so this helped so much to answer a ton of my questions I still had after trying to read up on info (so confusing!!!) or jumping from one Story video to another. I can't wait to watch the rest of this. On a side note, it's much easier to follow. For jr personally .Your voice and speech are very clear and you don't throw in puns or (wannabe) jokes that pull me out of my focus. Again, thank you!!!

I absolutely love the craziness of this series and appreciate the fact you took the time to piece this all together. I do have a theory about Red Eye being Caim and it’s simple; Angelus didn’t die. Dragons have a last wish. If she used it to save herself the Japanese may have recovered her while she was still weak and only declared that they had a dragon corpse. A corpse is far less scary a prospect than a living dragon after all.

@Utrilus

Жыл бұрын

I feel like the dragons lose their wish to make a pact, as losing the most precious thing is the cost. And it seems like the wish thing wasn't canon yet during the first Drakengard game, since it would invalidate the reason for a pact with the protagonist.

@brightwallmusic2908

Жыл бұрын

@@Utrilus Wasn't this stated otherwise with Michael into Mikhail during his time with Zero?

@theshadowherself

Жыл бұрын

@@brightwallmusic2908 Michael and Zero were never pact partners. Zero made a pact with Mikhail at the very end of her story, because the dragon wasn't going to use his Last Wish to reincarnate, but it was very brief because they died together.

Love this guided timeline. Thank you. In case anyone didn't know, NIER were always siblings. In Japan it was NIER Replicant as siblings and they didn't think the Western audience would get it and changed their version to Gestalt with it being a dad, daughter. When they did the remake, they remade it from the original which were siblings, so nothing got changed really in terms of the relationship of the main character and his sister. Also if I remember only the true ending was in Replicant right?

@luckydannumber2

Жыл бұрын

The mistake I see a lot of people are making is that NIER deals with cycles not loops. Nier Gestalt did happen but 100 years before Nier Replicant, it's a cycle a repeated event with few differences (think WWI and WWII). Like how the anime is a cycle of the game. Note at Ending E the game is finished, you have killed the Yorha (god) project and have ended the cycle. Also if you read the bible you can see some links and influences that were pulled from there as well. (The 2nd coming was the groestque queen, the god of drakengard world), food for thought.

@Ezekiel_Allium

Жыл бұрын

@@luckydannumber2 Me when I understand history and think ww1 and ww2 are a repeated even with few changes

@bimasetyaputra8381

Жыл бұрын

@@Ezekiel_Allium yeah, talk about a very poor understanding of history

@TokenOracle

11 ай бұрын

The "true ending" was in Grimoire Nier, and was added to the Replicant remake. It wasn't, to my knowledge, in Gestalt or OG Replicant.

@dkcsi9256

7 ай бұрын

@@luckydannumber2 Bro you need to get a basic education before you start talking lmfao. WW2 isn't a 'repetition' of WW1 just because it has a 2 on the end. Automata also isn't cyclical aside from 9S dying and being repaired. Everything happens once. 9S dying and being brought back does not lead to repeating any missions or events aside from his death which happens in different ways each time.

Mouse visible in the cutscene at 2:35:02 literally unwatchable But for real though, this must've been a gargantuan task to put together, it definitely gave me a greater appreciation for the series to have more history on it

I cannot express how impressive this explanation of this timeline was. I have been wanting to play Drakengard 3 for a long time and after this, my cravings for playing it grew even more. And it is hard to explain what the point of [Re]incarnation is since it's been around 2 or so years since it was released. I loved every moment of this documentary. Thank you.

Jesus, I am a big NieR fan, and I started a couple years ago, and trust me when I say this, there's still a lot to learn, and this video can literally guide and aid all the fans out there! Thank you for putting this up for the world to see what a masterpiece Yoko Taro has brought upon this world.

damn. this was absolutely one of the best summaries of the entire drakenier story i've seen. i thought i pretty much knew everything but i still learnt a few things and on top of that it was super fun to listen to because it was so clear and well laid out! from someone who is very passionate about this story, thanks for making this!

@j.s.t.6515

Жыл бұрын

Hi! Can you recommend other videos, articles etc similar to this one that you think are good? Thanks in advance

@HackersSun

Жыл бұрын

Yea, I can keep up with my friend's knowledge about the series Because I hate the style the games are in ( it feels like it plays like 2003 generic jrpg ) and I was never going to play any of the games, outside possibly maybe drakengard for the watchers. The watchers are creepy, but very interesting. The watchers and the music are the only reasons that I have any interest in this series at all because the music that I found out in ff14, is godtier. Otherwise, it's Yoko Taro trying to be an emo edgelord trying to destroy everything because he hates happy endings does not sit well with me.

Considering the implied cyclical nature of the parallel universes, it lends a whole new meaning to 2B's opening monologue from NIER: automata "We're trapped in a neverending spiral of life and death"

The only word I can use to describe this series is: wow. Excellent video - it must've taken an insane amount of time to compile and present these details with the eloquence in which you did. Hats off to you, EruptionFang; you've gotten a new subscriber.

Even after playing the games twice, this series still brings a tear to my eye. Yoko Taro has without a doubt delivered one of the most emotional pieces of media in history. The fact that you went through the work to make this video is a blessing. Thank you for clearing up my favorite story in media.

@Kokonut73238

Жыл бұрын

a tear? this game makes me cry rivers every time i play it

I can't even imagine the amount of research, writing and editing that went into this. Man, NieR is *HEAVY*. Glad I played automata and replicant before watching though. I can now appreciate the Drankengard connections throughout NieR!

Thank you for the video, this must have been a massive undertaking to played the games, summarised the lores and writing all these scripts 😊 let alone adding footage editing and soun mixing

This is probably the single best thing I have ever seen on youtube. You are insane for putting this together, but it is so, so much appreciated.

Yknow, as emotional as all of Nier was and even parts of Drakengard The saddest part of the entire series for me is Hullua's situation. She just wanted to protect her brother, even after becoming a monster. I'm just glad we put her out of her misery in Replicant, and I'm glad Emil was able to come to terms with it all.

@idontplaygames3k296

11 ай бұрын

I mean I assume she is still "alive" similar to how Tyraaan is in Kaine, she is also a passenger in the body she shares with her brother. At least, I think Yokotaro should gave Emil a mental partner which would probably have helped as he was splitting into his clones during the alien war.

This entire video was phenomenal and I cannot BEGIN to imagine how hellish editing this was let alone exporting it 😭😭😭 sending this to every Nier fan I know!!! Thank you for all the effort put into piecing everything together into something coherent and understandable!!

Wow i cant even imagine how much work went into this. Loved every second. It was so complete and well told and as easy to understand as it could have been. Thank you so much for this!!! Im probably gonna watch it again and again. Im obsessed with this lore.

You are an absolute legend for making this video! You broke everything down that we needed to know and made it extremely easy to understand. I look forward to seeing more of your videos!

Just finished the video and I have to say this was an amazing way to view the story, I can tell the amount of work that was put into this video and I truly think it paid off.

The Kainé story hurt me soooo much. Kainé is one of my favorite characters in the game and so hearing about that sort of suffering… it hurts.

@alexterieur8813

Жыл бұрын

When she is forced to « pleasure » herself oof😢

This has to be my favorite video on KZread now. I am a huge fan of the Nier series, and to see a complete timeline makes me happy. Now we need to wait for Re:Incarnation's story to end, and maybe, just maybe, the man himself, Yoko Taro, will make another Nier/Drakengard game. My thoughts on the setting would be the Kingdom of Night, the fights against the machines, the black flower, the creation of Dragons and Accord, and the events that led to Cathedral City ending up in Drakengard. But nobody knows what's going on in the head of Yoko Taro. However, the future story will be a masterpiece like the rest of the series. Please continue making such videos. They are extremely well-made, very informative, and you have a nice voice to listen to.

Amazing! you've explained everything I wanted to know about the timeline of NieR, appreciate your work of this masterpiece

The complete, unabridged, no nonsense, no alternate ending, no filler timeline *6 and a half hours long* Love it!

@ayaxmcgill635

Жыл бұрын

Hey if we can sit through 4 hours of justice league, this seems like a cakewalk in comparison 😂

@braydonbolt6109

11 ай бұрын

@@ayaxmcgill635except this story is functional and enjoyable unlike the justice league movie 😂

I can't fathom how much time, effort and passion went into making this, but I'm so glad it exists. The NieR series is truly special and this video highlighted a lot of why so many people think that, and does a great job covering parts of the story/stories that many people likely miss out on. I will say, though, I'm a bit surprised the presence of Emil in Automata didn't come up beyond the initial war! I guess it isn't really important to the cannon for YorHa and 2B/9S, but it does put an end to his story.

This video was one hell of a ride, found myself tearing up multiple times remembering how hard some of these scenes hit

At 1st I thought to myself, I am not watching a 6 hour video... Then I watched it. Amazing work from start to end. Probably will rewatch. I love NieR

Was 4h.42 into the vid when you just privetded the other realease, was so scared I wasn't going to be able to finish. Absolute masterpiece, thank you.

@hikawagetsbitches

Жыл бұрын

your comment just made me realize this video’s 6 hours long 🗿 anything for NieR

The amount of work that had to go into a 6-hour video like this is outstanding and making sure it's interesting throughout the whole thing without causing the watcher's attention to slip is even more amazing. Truly, well done with all the work you put into this, I really enjoyed learning about everything from the Legion to the Replicants and Androids, you've reignited my interest in the whole series.🥳

Amazing video, can't stress enough how impressive it is for you to compile everything so its digestable. Thanks.

This series.. there will probably be nothing else like it in my lifetime. Absolutely amazing

@Plugsuit

6 ай бұрын

I'm 40+ now, and the Nier Series ist only the second one that I can think of. The first one was Xenosaga, also very epic and philosophical, but not as dark.

Really well made video. Honestly the result of this Nier & Drakengard recap is waaay better than I expected. Just to add on a little note: the factory in Nier: Automata is in fact the same factory where P-33 was created. This is proven by the pod assigned to 9S when you visit this location while on his playtrough.

My god that outro message is just what i needed to hear. I thank you for making this video and especially for that ending message.

i think this is the first youtube video i’ve come back to after multiple days to watch all the way through. thanks my friend. good work.

brings tears to my eyes. yoko taro doesn't hold back some stories that other writers won't even touch. but the medium is so spread out that normal acquisitions is very hard to aquire.

A masterpiece of a video. I got "into" Nier when I played Automata a while after it came out. It blows my mind how much has gone into this story.

Finally got into this series because of you and wanna just thank you for your comprehensive, thorough explanation. It was easy to follow, and your effort really shined through. Really appreciate it, and looking forward to more content

I appreciate this video a lot. The Drakengard stuff was quite hard for me to follow as I never played the games nor have seen gameplay, but it helps add some really interesting context to NieR events. Thanks for the video

A star walks into a black hole but doesn't seen phased. The black hole then turns to the star and says, "I don't think you understand the gravity of this situation."

@farfa2937

Жыл бұрын

Quite accurate actually. From the POV of the star everything would be perfectly normal, it's from outside that we'd see the star disappear into the event horizon.

@DanKaschel

Жыл бұрын

​@@farfa2937 umm. No. A star approaching a black hole is a very violent process.

Oh wow the doves at the end of automata really have a whole new context that i never realised. I'll never get tired of this story. Can't wait for yoko taro to add more someday.

Found this video after watching the Nier anime, I had no idea about the extensive backstory, and it took me forever to finish this video but I'm really glad I did. Well done to you, and thank you for making this masterpiece!

@plasant8408

7 ай бұрын

Duno man only took me about 6:24:42 don’t know how it took you forever (Sarkasm)

@LIES1988GNR

5 ай бұрын

I felt the same when I finished Nier Replicant. It is pretty annoying that a lot of useful information is contained in other media or games. I understood that humanity went to almost extinction because of a virus (WCS) and then humans separated their souls from their bodies. But yet enough. Their relation with the Drackengard E Ending was never mentioned except for some hints here and there.

Honestly the FF14 raid also gives some interesting ideas... and it apparently has some deeper meanings according to Taro himself, I'd love to see your takes on that as well!

@shawnscouten5184

Жыл бұрын

Seconded, how did a seed of destruction get there, and could there be more of them? The raid left a lot of unanswered questions.

@aerypear2254

Жыл бұрын

Still terrified of the prospect of Chlorination syndrome coming to the First or Source HEEHEE

@Christopher-eq1rn

11 ай бұрын

​@@aerypear2254fr. I can't think of any possible counter other than furthered research into the work of Dr Lugae of ripping out people's souls. Even then it's a long shot

@Crowens

11 ай бұрын

​@@aerypear2254imagine dealing with sin eaters for 100 years and then almost immediately dealing with white chlorination

The most Yoko Taro thing about this entire series is that Drakengard 3's best ending is not the canon one. He really just has to do it to us.

@FhtagnCthulhu

Жыл бұрын

I spent so much time beating that boss...

@samuelgarza2466

Жыл бұрын

I mean...Accord herself confirms that all Branches still go on even after she abandons one for another. So in a way, Branch D's existence in the Yokoverse is canon because it leads off from the main Drakengard 3 timeline, similar to how Drakengard 2 leads off from Drakengard's Ending A. However, like Drakengard 2 with Nier Replicant, Branch D contradicts the events of the original Drakengard because the Flower is gone for good, which means the Watchers no longer exist, which means that the Grotesquerie Queen's absence keeps both the Drakengard world and the Nier world safe. Tldr: Branch D's existence in the Yokoverse is indeed canon, but it is not canon to the timeline that culminates into Nier Automata.

@Shade04rek

Жыл бұрын

Yep, all the happier or more "wrapped-up" endings/branches are never the canon ones. Maybe canon isn't the right word though. The branches are canon, but just as that, timeline branches, in which they don't effect one another, but still happen simultaneously, and one is just the longest told continuity. The only thing that truly isn't canon is dod2, not that it matters, it might as well be too in that sense.

"so hey, can you explain Drakengard to me real quick ?" "sure, glad you asked :"

Thank you so much for this video. I love this game series and lore and I’ve watched this video in its entirety five times now. Please continue to do this with other games. Your storytelling and narration skills are truly a gift

It took me several days to get through all of this, and in the end I'm just stunned. The story saddened me in a way I did not expect, but ended in a more hopeful note then I could have predicted. On the side of the video itself, you did an incredible job. 6 and a half hours of Lore is an impressive feat across multiple installments, and here you are putting it out all at once. You absolute mad lad. Well done.

4:40:00 Okay... so based on THIS information about "machines do not get to have names", it puts SO MUCH SINISTER FORESHADOWING on 9s asking 2b to call him "Nines."

@MaverickX578

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, VERY sinister foreshadowing

Dude!!!! I played Drakenguard and one of the older Neir game, but this is an absolutely amazing piece of lore work. Superior work here, man. Thank you for all the hard work.

Really appreciate you creating this video. You summarized the story so well and it was an absolute pleasure experiencing this. Thank you :)

And I thought Sophie's summary was long... though i suppose that video is gone now. Incredibly well done, i might say this is the most comprehensive coverage of this absurd tale. Yoko Taro is an absolute mad man and we love him for it.

@Miriam_J_

Жыл бұрын

Actually, her channel is back up now. It's not active though, just as an archive.

@mana-uv7cz

Жыл бұрын

Yes my favorite video game creator. Because he is the first to make video game mechanics that immersive in the story. Genius.

@christiantaylor1495

9 ай бұрын

​@@Miriam_J_ Anyone care to say who Sophie is? People will find this comment years from now, and you can't expect them to all be the same age as you and remember

@_Rhode_

9 ай бұрын

@@christiantaylor1495 I'm pretty sure they're talking about ValkyrieAurora

I have numerous friends who are obsessed with these two series' lore for a long time, and I only ever had little glimpses of it here and there without much context. So from the perspective of someone with only surface-level knowledge of this lore, I want to say from the bottom of my heart: this was a phenomenal video, and I hope you're proud. I already had a lot of respect for Yoko Taro and his stories BEFORE knowing almost any of this stuff, but I can't stress enough how much more I appreciate these stories after this. Thank you for your work!!!

this is beyond fantastic. cohesive, good use of visual aid, well spoken-just a treat to listen to.

9 mois plus tard, j'ai enfin fini cette vidéo. Bravo pour ce travail, l'une des meilleure vidéo que j'ai vue. Merci !

You know the thing I love about the writing style especially of Nier is that because Taro doesn't why away from darker aspects of life it really makes the more wholesome and sad moments in the games also feel more impactful

@t.k.5088

Жыл бұрын

The God of Yoko Taro's mythos believed humanity was a mistake big enough to deserve to be completely wiped off of every timeline. He kinda needs to show the darker aspects of humans for that God's belief to be uhhh "reasonable."

@trevorveillette8415

Жыл бұрын

​@@t.k.5088 Well drakengard showed us how bad humans can be. NieR doesn't show us that. It shows the tragedy of being human. Replicants, gestalts, androids, and especially YoRHa androids. We see them live and suffer like we do, and usually in the worst ways. Or we watch them be a part of a tragedy. Drakengard makes you see the gods point. NieR makes you go "hey no wait, this isn't right, they don't deserve this" The NieR games emphasize so much on HOW people suffer and HOW they cope with that suffering. Replicant has kaine with her past bullying and abuse, causing her to have self image issues and a tough persona. How emil loses his body and becomes a freak, and copes eventually thanks to kaines sympathy. Then there's automata, which is basically a game entirely about how people cope with their existence. 9S loses everything that kept him going. How does he cope? He goes mad with hatred and grief, and his mental state declines sharply into insanity as he becomes more depressed and eventually resolves to die after avenging 2B. Basically going on a suicide mission, where suicide is the intention. Meanwhile the machines are shown throughout the entire game to cope with their existence by mimicking humans and trying to be like us. Failing in the process, and end up adapting some of our worst traits. They cope with a lack of meaning in their existence by perpetuating the war they fight that has no point, because they were made to fight the "enemy". A2 copes with her immense survivors guilt by swearing to kill every last machine she can, as long as she can. She finds atonement in her living because her living is painful and filled with regret. Eventually she's able to fully cope, and grows beyond her blind contempt for machines, and is able to accept them even. She dies ready to meet her friends again. (Until ending E of course). 2B copes with her existence by relying entirely on 9S for her emotional well being, even though 9S is the direct cause of horrible mental state. So she essentially copes with her grief and sorrow for killing him over and over, by keeping her promise to him that they'll see each other again after every death. Her coping is the saddest I think since what she does to make herself and 9S happy, is directly what causes all of her suffering, and she can't escape this cycle on her own. TLDR: drakengard series is the worst of humanity, NieR series is humanity put through the worst.

@nowiamincollege

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@@t.k.5088 bro even god in real life in abrahamic religion still doomed humans. i dont think Taro does it for the sake of being reasonable, its just doomsday the classic, don't really need any reason it's just a style and genre

@andrewsanusi8462

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Yeah that is definitely one of my favourite aspects in this series is that we see the main characters that we follow in each game aren’t essentially the “good guys” and can be viewed as the antagonists especially with the some of the actions they pulled it just makes them feel like actual people.

@KasumiRINA

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@@t.k.5088 that's some fucked up religion and I thought Baldur's Gate cult of Bhaal was bad.

one of the most insane but somehow cohesive timelines in gaming