Glorfindel is on of the potential characters for LOTRonPrime that I'm most excited about! Which character that we've never seen on-screen before do you want to see the most?

@jakermaker9697

2 жыл бұрын

Not necessarily a character but the isle of Numenor itself (which in itself may be a character if they do it well)

@rangerofthenorth1970

2 жыл бұрын

Gil Galad, Anarion, Ringwraiths as Men and many others....

@meeskeessen4848

2 жыл бұрын

Círdan the shipwright and perhabs the two blue wizards

@grokeffer6226

2 жыл бұрын

Tom Bombadil, maybe as a narrator. He seemed to understand a lot of the history of Middle-Earth.

@principledpsychopath8461

2 жыл бұрын

Sauron as Anatar

Balrogs give way too much XP, please nerf.

@Shadoww2309

2 жыл бұрын

This quote is pure gold. Well played sir.

@shezh9597

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤌🏽🤌🏽🤌🏽

@warlordofbritannia

2 жыл бұрын

It’s their wings, obviously Remove those and you may smite their ruin upon the mountainside

@_Aemse

2 жыл бұрын

first glorfindel gets his power spike then gandalf runs off on his own to steal all the parties exp for himself.

@Si_Mondo

2 жыл бұрын

Kill a Balrog and get Undead-up-to-Level-50-flee-on-sight perk. Glorfindel: I never get to fight anyone anymore....

Ah yes, Glorfindel, whose power against the Nazgul is surpassed only by Farmer Maggot.

@felipaorfr

2 жыл бұрын

He should get a dog

@LOTR22090able

2 жыл бұрын

I see you're a man of culture as well

@liamwright2510

2 жыл бұрын

Farmer maggot, why were the Nazgul afraid of him. Hobbits stole his vegetables regularly and he was never able to scare them off. 😂😂😂😂

@drunkenhobo64

2 жыл бұрын

@@liamwright2510 probably because farmer maggot didn't show any particular fear. He just told the wraiths to get bent or he would fuck them up. The wraiths were busy, too.

@mkeysou812

2 жыл бұрын

Don't be too proud of those undead terrors Sauron has created. The ability to destroy Middle Earth is insignificant, next to the power of the mushroom

As a British person, Tolkien allowing Glorfindel to cut the queue for reincarnation means a lot.

@NerdoftheRings

2 жыл бұрын

haha!

@beginningbourbon7385

2 жыл бұрын

I love it!

@garytwinem5275

2 жыл бұрын

Kept him a place.

@gourmetwaters6916

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, if you cut a line, you best hope you're already dead. As if ants picking up on a breeze bourne pheromone; the synchronised turning of british heads, the the twitching of stiff upper lips like mandibles, the budgling of eyes in silence enunciated by the terrible eruption of profanity... Our paper thin veneer of civility sheds swiftly like soggy tissue paper.

@TheEphemeralMammal

2 жыл бұрын

Well he filled out all the proper forms, including the form that allows queue cutting so long as the form for new form embodiment was also completed timely. XD

I bet Glorfindel's last words to his people before he fell were "Fly, you fools!"

@NerdoftheRings

2 жыл бұрын

It's a pretty good line. :)

@BranoBoda

2 жыл бұрын

and once again taking solo XP for Balrog and coming back with few more levels :D

@wegladstone1967

2 жыл бұрын

There's more to it than this. In the chapter 'Many Meetings' Gandalf tells Frodo the background of Glorfindel. "And here in Rivendell there live still some of his chief foes: the Elven-wise, lords of the Eldar from beyond the furthest seas. They do not fear the Ringwraiths, for those who have dwelt in the Blessed Realm live at once in both worlds, and against both the Seen and the Unseen they have great power' Then in reply to Frodo re Glorfindel specifically: 'Yes, you saw him for a moment as he is upon the other side: one of the mighty of the Firstborn. He ls an Elf-lord of a house of princes....' Plainly therefore he is the same Glorfindel as in the First Age. '

@bb-ql3vm

2 жыл бұрын

Hahahah

@Fonnia

2 жыл бұрын

It was "paaaaaarrkouuuurrrr!"

As much as I love Arwen's involvement in the rescue of Frodo in the movie, I still would have liked to have seen Glorfindel

@skillsmachine9164

7 ай бұрын

I guess they thought they'd have to add another character in and give it some more detail...they left out a lot. I found shelobs story to be so underdone in the film, none of the back story the book gave about no elf, man or orc ever being able to escape or injure her, and much more.

@bobliger118

5 ай бұрын

​@@skillsmachine9164 pretty sure they just wanted to give arwen more shine, as she had no role in the book other than being Aragorns girl and later wife

@JohanCruyff-the-Dutch-GOAT

19 күн бұрын

Probably wouldn’t have been as nerve wrecking considering he would have just annihilated them! Gandalf and Borimier probably would have survived if he joined! And both Mordor and Isengard would have failed easily😂

YES. Glorfindel’s description in Fellowship is one of the greatest character introductions in literature: “Glorfindel was tall and straight; his hair was of shining gold, his face fair and young and fearless and full of joy; his eyes were bright and clean, and his voice like music; on his brow set wisdom, and in his hand was strength.” It says everything about that character in a couple sentences. Masterful writing. Plus the dude kills a Balrog, which is an incredible feat for a non-Maiar.

@TamajitDas88

2 жыл бұрын

But he himself dies while killing the Balrog.. Fingolfin on the other hand wounded a valar before getting killed himself..!!

@Goratrix66

2 жыл бұрын

@@TamajitDas88 Gandalf the Maiar himself died too when killed the Balrog of Moria, killing a Balrog in a duel is not joke. Also Glorfindel had a significant power buff after reincarnated, gained Maiar like powers.

@zinny999

Жыл бұрын

I thought it was Arwen who saved Froso

@nonsononessunooko4066

Жыл бұрын

@@zinny999 in the film not in the book

@RandomVidsforthought

Жыл бұрын

@@zinny999 It's frodo not Froso

Hilarious the Witch-King having to book it in mid "Mwah-hah-hah" when Glorfindel rocks up 🙂

I love the bit where he says “It’s Glorfin’ time”.

"Dude, you're scared of NAZGUL?! Pfffft. I remember when dragons the size of mountains would show up on your front door and burn your whole fortress-city down...When you had to kick balrogs out of the way on a quest every day of the week and twice on Mettare. Nazgul are just wannabe-Morgoths in stinky robes. One side, I'll handle this..."

That 'Maiar like Gandalf regard him as an equal' hits differently when you remember that Gandalf (who himself thinks he's a coward) also stood against a Balrog and slayed it thusly

@jamesfry8983

2 жыл бұрын

All of the first born from Valinor are basically super elves partly due to the years of the two trees and dwelling near the valor

@hisnotsolonely2961

2 жыл бұрын

That's what you get when you bathed in the light of the two trees

@shifusdad

2 жыл бұрын

Also, from what I remember, the maiar were only sent down with a fraction of their powers, so he’s presumably way more powerful than the Gandalf/saruman in middle earth. Idk if he was sent with his full power tho.

@williamwohl3120

2 жыл бұрын

Also let’s not forget that Gandalf held off all nine all night long

@jamesfry8983

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamwohl3120 True and that was still as Gandalf the Gray before he got his power upgrade, makes me wonder what he would of done with the witch king as Gandalf the white

Witch-King of Angmar: “I fear no man, but that thing…” *Glorfindel smiles in the unseen world* “…it scares me”

@TheGodofChaosItself184

2 жыл бұрын

No comments?, sheesh what's with you all?!.

@williamgarrett1712

2 жыл бұрын

Glorfindel could drop kick Saron into the void.

@TamajitDas88

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamgarrett1712 Not really, Sauron is a Maiar.. commander of the balrogs... to whom Glorfindel died..

@AABradyKK

Жыл бұрын

@@TamajitDas88 don't think Saurom commanded Balrogs. Morgoth did however

@acolyte06312

Жыл бұрын

@@TamajitDas88 Dude, take a joke

Glorfindel was criminally underplayed in the films. The fact he prophesied about the Witchkings fall at the battle of pellenor fields is wicked crazy.

@Vonwell_

2 жыл бұрын

Personally I don't mind his switch with Arwen in the movie, the movie is already loaded in characters for a non-book reader, and it gives Arwen a moment to shine so as not reducing her to a lifeless blank "love interest" of Aragorn. I love Glorfindel, but I think replacing him with Arwen in the movie was a good call.

@muttamerican4863

2 жыл бұрын

Its because Glorfindel is only in the first book. Arwen shows in all three so they made the change to not have to add another brief cast member

@Cloofinder

2 жыл бұрын

@@muttamerican4863 I believe Glorfindel was in RotK when Ellessar was crowned king and at the wedding. Sure it was a small part.

@brooksboy78

2 жыл бұрын

@@Vonwell_ Except the movies set up Arwen to be a skilled fighter, and then they promptly ignore that for all of her remaining screen time. Why not give the role to Legolas, who actually DOES contribute to the narrative?

@connielingus8385

2 жыл бұрын

They should've given Arwen's role to Glorfindel and have him and Aragorn marry in the end. They already have a female character in the Fellowship (Legolas).

Elrond: lets send Glorfindel to find Frodo! Glorfindel *rides away on his horse stumbles upon the Ringwraiths* Ringwraiths *ragequitting*

Glorfindel is my most favorite character in Tolkien Universe, I like to think the reason Peter Jackson cut him off from the movie is because he couldn't find someone as awesome or attractive to play him.

@11DNA11

2 жыл бұрын

Same... I liked the character alot and was so pissed that Jackson cut him entirely from the movie :(

@SteveChiverton

2 жыл бұрын

The perfect person to play Glorfindel WAS later used by Jackson...to play Thranduil. Lee Pace would have been an incredible Glorfindel. But yes, also Jackson could AND SHOULD have at least used him, replacing him with Arwen just didn't make any sense ALTHOUGH from a cinema story telling viewpoint you now have another character on a par with Gandalf, and the big reveal of his power at the Ford would have meant extending the scene at the Council of Elrond to explain exactly why he is not going with them.

@Skabanis

2 жыл бұрын

Lee pace yessssas

@adrianchannelle8651

2 жыл бұрын

It was just pragmatic as he wanted to highlight the love story between Aragorn and Arwen. Glorfindel would have taken up too much time.

@hankhicks1108

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe Glorfindel IS Arwen.

You gotta love how Glorfindel's main tactic in the Third Age is to just flex his power like "Yeah... even I wouldn't wanna mess with me"

I guess Nazgul aren't really a serious concern when Sindarin-Jesus shows up with a sharp sword and a long bow. No wonder Tolkien/Jackson didn't use him as a main character. It's a MITE overpowered when the guy in question was alive when MORGOTH was the Big Bad.

@DrewPeabaws

2 жыл бұрын

Man defeated a balrog on his own. What a beast.

@bilabong4257

2 жыл бұрын

Noldorin-Jesus

@MM22966

2 жыл бұрын

@@DrewPeabaws Probably kicked it off the side of the mountain, yelling: "THIS...IS...GONDOLIN!!!!"

@morpheussandman3984

2 жыл бұрын

But the Nine Nazgûl could overwhelm even Glorfindel.

@sjienleedelia3818

2 жыл бұрын

@@MM22966 pffft I laughed out loud imagining this 😹😭 my humor is broken

Just imagine how funny it would have been if the hobbits happened to see Glorfindel chasing the 5 Ringwraiths and hear him just yelling "come back here cowards" as he chases them

@rikkrakk4012

Жыл бұрын

Would have been a major morale booster to see the guy you've been running from for the past several days and several of his buddies running in fear from the dude who's come specifically into the wilderness to find and protect you.

The way you animate icons of characters to show troop movements during battles reminds me of a lot of military history channels here on youtube (Historymarche and Kings & Generals come to mind) This is such a helpful way to convey this kind of information that I otherwise had difficulty picturing sometimes! Thanks!

@mobiggcro

2 жыл бұрын

Same 👌🔥

Glorfindel is just such a great example of Tolkiens worldbuilding - he just feels ancient and important and it’s awesome

Gandalf is taken to his doom by fall with the balrog in khazad dum, Glorfindel is taken to his doom by fall with the balrog at Gondolin, they both are resurrected, the two have very similar endings and new beginnings, I wonder if Tolkien intended on this to be reflected on or not, but either way the Glorfindel story is very compelling, great work!

@Enerdhil

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, Gandalf died on the top of a mountain. The fall did not kill him. Also, Gandalf's spirit reentered his old body. Glorfindel's original body is still under the cairn on the top of a mountain. We don't know how he is reembodied in Valinor.

@braylon3233

2 жыл бұрын

@@Enerdhil oh my bad i forgot about the rest of the duel between gandalf and glorfindel, but they both died similar ways nonetheless.

@Enerdhil

2 жыл бұрын

@@braylon3233 Yes, as heroes of Middle Earth. 😁

@hollyriver22171

2 жыл бұрын

You should listen to the lectures of the tolkien professor! There was one (though i can’t remember which) where he talks about how a lot of stories repeat themselves in Tolkien’s world

@braylon3233

2 жыл бұрын

@@hollyriver22171 I might do that, thanks for the recommendation!

The First Age: “attacks” Glorfindel: ‘Tis but a scratch That said Tolkien did amazing work in The Fall of Gondolin with Glorfindel taking down a Balrog, one of my favourite passages of prose he ever wrote. Great video as always 😇

@NerdoftheRings

2 жыл бұрын

lol!

@jakermaker9697

2 жыл бұрын

@@NerdoftheRings Turin Tarambar has to be an upcoming video for sure 😉

@meeskeessen4848

2 жыл бұрын

@@jakermaker9697 he said he'll do it for his 100st vid, so not the next video But the video after that one

@jaapuitroepteke2750

2 жыл бұрын

Also huge thanks to Tolkiens son, for putting together all the scraps and papers with writting on them to give us so much of the lore

@meeskeessen4848

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaapuitroepteke2750 daar heb je gelijk jaap!

The simple fact that if it wasnt for his fight vs the Balrog in Gondolin, all hope could have been lost right there for Eärendil would have been captured of worse and the world of middle earth would have been conquered by Morgoth.

It is easy to imagine Glorfindel staying at Rivendell to help defend it if it was attacked. He would be more valuable in battle than many ordinary Elves combined.

@knuckles543

2 жыл бұрын

i would imagine he also aided the defence of lothlorien and mirkwood, and the final assault on Dol Guldur. it's non-canon, but the videogame ''Battle For Middle Earth II'' put Glorfindel front and centre in the hero campaign alongside Gloin for most, if not all of it. (my first introduction to him, by far the best unit in the Elven faction) and to think that I thought he was powerful in that version! dude's here competing with Galadriel, Elrond and Gandalf for ''most awesome'' of the Valinor-Blessed folk...

@anatoldenevers237

2 жыл бұрын

@@knuckles543 Any elves who were around during the First Age and lived to the War Of The Ring are awesome.

@nicolasreinaldet732

Жыл бұрын

@@anatoldenevers237 Well he didnot exactly lived to the first age......

@AdeptKing

Жыл бұрын

In Battle for Middle Earth II he was the main leader for the hero campaign and yes it involved him fighting to protect Rivendell among other things.

@ZiggyMandarr

Жыл бұрын

I just pretend BMFE2 is canon.

I like to think that he did had his role in the war of the Ring in northern front of the war. A mighty hero such as him would not miss out the opportunity to fight evil alongside men once again.

@rosameltrozo5889

2 жыл бұрын

It is a shame so little is shown of that, would've been nice if for example the movies had shown a bit of it in flashes to show how the war of the ring threatens the whole of ME and wasn't just Helm's Deep, Pelennor Fields and the Black Gate, it'd also show the dwarves doing something.

@Cancoillotteman

2 жыл бұрын

It's actually the version chosen by the game Battle for Middle Earth 2, where he leads with Gloin a company of Iron Hills dwarves

@michaellao7264

2 жыл бұрын

@@Cancoillotteman great game!

@jamesshelton308

2 жыл бұрын

@@rosameltrozo5889 Yes and no. The story (and movie) is focused on the actions of the Fellowship, not all of Middle Earth. Showing scenes of distant battles would either confuse people who had not read the books, or add even more runtime in order to proved context. That's why things like the Battle of Dale during the War of the Ring are covered in the appendices in the books. It's important to keep the story relevant to the characters involved.

@Pancakespls

Жыл бұрын

@@Cancoillotteman God...I miss that game.

Glorfidel was one of the noblest characters in the Tolkien books. I always thought there were two versions (Elfs) with the same name. I did not know he was "sent back" to Middle Earth after he died. Very similar to Gandalfs life and death.

@Crafty_Spirit

2 жыл бұрын

And the crazy thing is, Tolkien wrote his short essay on Glorfindel that confirmed that both are the same character only like two months before his death, it's part of his last writings!

@thamessider

2 жыл бұрын

@@Crafty_Spirit Tolkien in later years did a lot of revisionist things to his earlier work, like his gradual sanctification of Galadriel: somewhere in one of the tales/histories from Christopher Tolkein he notes that JRR had apparently been mulling a retcon of her history so she came back to Middle-Earth not in support of Fingolfin but as a sort of missionary to the locals. He may well have been similarly uprating Glorfindel's past... Still, in LotR it explicitly calls Glorfindel an elflord of the Eldar, and a prince, so it's perhaps unlikely there would have been two such with the same name.

@Fonnia

2 жыл бұрын

Same for me. I knew not until here that there was a passage of Glorfindel's return, always thought it was another powerfull different one.

@johngeiger3770

Жыл бұрын

From Feanor to Glorfindel to Fingolfin, Noldorin elves (the warrior elves) were just a different breed even among their kins.

Its interesting that the Ringwraiths fear Glorfindel more than Gandalf. For just the Witch-King at Pelennor was confident he would defeat Gandalf there but would run from Glorfindel when he had all of the 9 with him. I will be very put out if the Amazon series on the 2nd age excludes Glorfindel.

@bricehatcher8391

2 жыл бұрын

It probly will as all of his deeds take place in 1st and 3rd age.

@roblaw4554

2 жыл бұрын

@@bricehatcher8391 I'm not so sure about that. First, he was actually sent back in the SA, about the time the 1 ring was forged and the blue wizards arrived, specifically to help against the shadow. Also, didn't one of the posters amazon released show a rayed-sun emblem? One very much like the device of the House of the Golden Flower? This is of course a stretch, but just sayin.

@bricehatcher8391

2 жыл бұрын

@@roblaw4554 that was probly the star of feanor. Glorfindel is best know for is actions in gondolin in the first age and the war in the north against angmar and helping aragorn and the hobbits to the ford of bruinen, both in the 3rd age.

@roblaw4554

2 жыл бұрын

@@bricehatcher8391 No. There is an 8-rayed star in another poster, but this is a sun that I refer to. And yes, I do know the tales and the timelines very well. My point is that Glorfindel specifically was re-embodied and sent on a mission, specifically in the middle of the SA. Despite an almost total lack of stories about him in those days, I find it ridiculously improbable that he would have spent the next 47 or so centuries idle before simply riding out to help with a ford crossing. As the new show is set in SA, and there is a lot of quite open territory for non-canon storytelling, I would not be at all surprised to see an appearance by the one who is arguably the most powerful agent for good on the field. If that might be the case, and on the off chance that he would be treated properly by the writers...well, this provides much of my very limited optimism for this show.

Love your videos. You should also do one on Glorfindel's best bud, Ecthelion. I love Ecthelion's character and he one-manned Gothmog like a boss after slaying other Balrogs. I've always wanted to know more about him!

Dude deserves his own series.

While I love the movies he is one of the things I miss in them a depiction of the old forest in movie terms, likewise the Barrow Downs and Glorfindel !

@SpecialOrder_937

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t for get … OOOOOH TOM BOMBADILL HE’S A MERRY FELLOW BRIGHT BLUE HIS JACKET IS AND HIS BOOTS ARE YELLOW !

@magecraft2

2 жыл бұрын

@@SpecialOrder_937 yea can't forget old Tom if you want old forest and the downs you have to have Tom :)

@SpecialOrder_937

2 жыл бұрын

@@magecraft2 He’s so weird ad funny I’m not sure how it would have played out on screen x

@Crafty_Spirit

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mate, why don't you check out the Soviet Lord of the Rings as it features these scenes (in a weird way though 🤣)

@magecraft2

2 жыл бұрын

@@Crafty_Spirit Will check it out :)

Brilliant, as always. The Fall of Gondolin chapter from BoLT2 is one of my favorite pieces of Tolkien lore. The hopelessness is gripping. A last stand for all. Ecthelion and Glorfindel are true legends.

@frankmueller2781

2 жыл бұрын

Amen to that! Wouldn't a short video on the battle of Ecthelion of the Fountain in single combat with Gothmog, Lord of Balrogs be great? They too fought to each other's mutual death.

One of the Mighty of the First born .. an Elf lord of the house of Princes Gotta respect an Elf who would leave the Blessed realm just to follow his friend … a deed echoed by Samwise the brave ages later

I always found it curious that Glorfindel's power was too great for the Fellowship, and would have drawn eyes to it, yet Gandalf's was, apparently, not. I can think of only a few reasons. First could be perhaps that Glorfindel's power exceeded Gandalf the Grey's, even if they wouldn't have necessarily exceeded Gandalf the White's. Though I'm not too keen on that reasoning. Another possibility is that one of them would be fine, but together their power would have been too great to keep secret, and overall Gandalf was better suited for the task than Glorfindel would have been. The other reasoning, and perhaps the one I lean to the most, is that Gandalf's powers, while not lesser, were better concealed thanks to his guise as an old man without fine wears save Glamdring. In any case Glorfindel is among my favorite characters and I really wish we got to read about a bit more of him. I like how they have handled him in Lotro, especially his role in the War of the Last Alliance with the Bright Company.

@Duiker36

2 жыл бұрын

Given the flight of five Ringwraiths from him, versus the pursuit by four upon Gandalf, the theory that Glorfindel was of greater power than Gandalf the Grey has some bones to it. But I think a large part of it was also that Glorfindel's role was as a warrior, not as an advisor: he was sent back to Beleriand to aid the Elves against Sauron and all of his conributions are on the field of battle. Gandalf was sent to aid the Free Peoples as a whole, and while the Balrog fight in Moria is a thing, it was a holding action of desperation. Instead, the things he does intentionally as The Grey are founding the White Council, incentivizing Thorin to reclaim Erebor from Smaug, and befriending Aragorn. As The White, he heals Theoden, breaks Saruman's staff, and bolsters Gondor during the siege, not least of which is driving back the Nazgul to rescue Faramir. In nearly every case, Gandalf is there to lift someone else up. His job is to steady others and let them do great things in their own right. Glorfindel, on the other hand, has a job of being the one who does great things. Gandalf, in other words, is like Samwise as Glorfindel is like Aragorn.

@davidgill3356

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe a different kind of power? Gandalf was to inspire and guide in his mission. Glorfindel was a straight up warrior.

@jodi1761

2 жыл бұрын

It was just poor writing with no logic. He wrote himself into a corner, kinda like how GRR Martin has written himself into a corner, except Tolkien basically just said... "coz of reasons" and carried on. Glorfindel leading Gandalf, Frodo, Elrond, Legolas and Aragorn on Eagles would have been a very short book :D

@jessem3149

2 жыл бұрын

I feel Glorfindel was a warrior, who could have provided protection, some knowledge given his age, but was too much of a standout for what he could provide and what the group needed (stealth and a network of connections). Since the group had Gandalf, who undoubtedly had the connections and the knowledge needed (as he dedicated his time on middle earth building these relationships with so many races) and was deceptively strong and unappealing, was the perfectly strong leader for the task. Glorfindel not joining was just as important, as the group was found out, and if any of the big 3 (Glorfindel, Elrond, Galadriel) were with this group, I feel a larger force would have been sent to intercept and they all would have been killed (as they are a small group, taking the advantage of sending a large force to intercept would either force the group to retreat back to Rivendell or another safe haven, exposing it to the enemy, or they are captured and killed. The ring wouldn't even matter, as if Sauron killed the big 3 and Gandalf and ended up with Gandalfs, Galadriels, and Elrond's rings of power while neutralizing them, he doesnt even need the one ring to enact the takeover of middle earth, as now his biggest threats are gone. He can take over, and leisurely search for the ring....which....he would have anyway from the interception. Having unassuming members in the fellowship are its biggest strength for this reason, and why the plan would have failed if any other big names joined in my opinion, loved the video!

@TheKalkalash

2 жыл бұрын

It could be that the Maia have an ability to hide their power. The blue wizards evaded Sauron despite being powerful figures for example. Glorfindel as an elf doesn't have much control over how much he "emits" his power in both the visible and invisible world. You could make a similar comparison with the Nazgul and Sauron. The Nazgul have no ability to hide themselves and whenever they are around everyone can sense their evil aura. Sauron on the other hand had the ability to present himself in more pleasant forms to others. Like when he was captured by the Numenoreans, he had no trouble convincing the king of his good intentions, despite clearly being evil. Or when Gandalf couldn't detect Saruman's betrayal in time, or how he didn't know of Durin's Bane until the Balrog was right on top of them. All in all I think the Maia have an ability to mask themselves from others.

So powerful, that Peter Jackson could only include him in one shot

@Ljngstrm

2 жыл бұрын

Which one was that? At the council or at the wedding?

@hawkeyeplerce5238

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ljngstrm The wedding, it's never stated that it's him, but there's a broad jawed blonde elf taller than Elrond and he stands behind Elrond very prominently like he is second in command or something and that leads people to believe it's Gorfindel. Which I'm down with because no other elf is directly addressed as such

@sidthecoach3961

2 жыл бұрын

@@hawkeyeplerce5238 there were two such elves beside Elrond, which makes me believe they were Elladan and Elrohir - that would make even more sense as it was their sister's wedding after all. So, I think we haven't seen him in the adaptation at all...

@theOneThatWas

2 жыл бұрын

@@sidthecoach3961 I agree with you

@YvetteArby

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, but PJ was such a big fan of the books and he was going to be true to the books... 😜😾🤬

The best LOTR channel

@NerdoftheRings

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! :)

@codycoffman2932

2 жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more!

@JRgaming27

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

I love Glorfindel. He always shows up to do something really dramatic and then peaces out. What a legend. Hope he's in the Amazon series!

@peterjobovic3406

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah,probably with nice black hair and black skin.

@lizzies4964

2 жыл бұрын

@@peterjobovic3406 Yeah that would be great!

I enjoy your channel. Thumbs up! But I would like to point out that in The Fellowship of the Ring, Gandalf warned that throwing the Ring in the depths of sea was a bad idea, not just because it would certainly resurface, but also because they were all too ignorant of the creatures and powers that lie beneath. I thought the implications of evil mermen and -maids (or worse) were pretty awesome. Glorfindel was always my favorite Middle Earth character.

One of the finest channels on KZread, if I do say so myself

Ever since playing Battle for middle earth 2, I’ve found Glorfindel one of the most awesome characters

Hey man, found your channel last week and I’ve seen nearly every lore video you’ve done. The Melkor/Morgoth videos and really anything you make is so quality. You’ve reignited my love for Tolkien and I thank you for that. Please keep making your videos. You have a sub for life!

@NerdoftheRings

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! I love hearing comments like this, that the videos have reignited passions for Middle-earth! Also, love the username! :)

How ridiculous that he wasn't in any of the films. I'm shocked actually, he did so much.

@julianblake8385

Жыл бұрын

Not at all. Glorfindel is kind of... too perfect, too strong, too good. It is difficult to portray such a character in a movie. We might admire him, but it is difficult to relate or identify with him. A "forbidden" love between two people who shouldn't be together despite their deep love, on the other hand, is easier to sell, especially taking into account that the movies were meant mostly for the bigger mainstream audiences, not for the Lotr hardcore fans only. And even in the main lotr plot, Glorfindel is not a main character. He pretty much just appears in a couple of scenes, and only in one is he relevant.

Hyped for this video, enjoying it as always! Could you make a video about the life and travels of Círdan? As he lived an incredibely long, brave and complex life with great influence in Beleriand and Middle Earth. And thank you for all your work on these videos, I, and many other, really enjoy them as I said before.

Not sure how I read over this amazing character, in the books,I need to read it again.Amazing vid.

I was just watching videos of yours at like 11pm yesterday, thinking, "Man, it would be great to have a video about Glorfindel." Then boom, you post this today.

@NerdoftheRings

2 жыл бұрын

Glad I could come through for you!

@ThisGameIsWack

2 жыл бұрын

@@NerdoftheRings Of course, recently found you and I love all your videos man! You go in great depth and detail of characters or events. I love it.

Definitely top five favorite characters thanks for doing my request 🙏🏾 you gotta love Glorfindel went toe to toe with the Belrog Nuff Said .

This is really interesting and I would love to see him depicted on screen... but I get why they excluded him from the films. He does nothing after the Council of Elrond and he was too powerful to just introduce and abandon. People go on and on about the 'flying the Eagles' into Mordor that it would leave them scratching their heads at not utilizing Glorfindel in any way in the story later on. And it would get pretty annoying pretty soon.

@deusexaethera

2 жыл бұрын

They could've explained it pretty easily by having Gandalf say "Your presence would harken all evil towards us" or something like that, to make it plainly clear that Glorfindel is just too high-profile for Sauron to ignore.

@phanthetrungnguyen3676

2 жыл бұрын

Glorfindel kicking in the gates of Mordor and saying: What's up Sauron

@tucker8071

2 жыл бұрын

@@deusexaethera but he doesn’t do anything. It’s not about him not joining the fellowship. We get that he shouldn’t. It’s that he is super powerful and sits on his bum.

@pablomuerta9452

2 жыл бұрын

My theories for both Eagles and Glorfindel is that, the moment they are part of the mission, Sauron agents would have notice and taken measures such as barricading Mount of Doom,close all passage and withdrew his army and flying creatures back to Mordor which will make things difficult as Elves and Human just doesn't have enough army. Remember Sauron eyes thought Pippin hold the ring so now the chase is on Gandalf and attack is on Minas Tirith.Being small undetected made the hobbit a perfect plan for this.Glorfindel will attract too many wraith and agents, Eagles will attract the tower guards and Nazgul riders.The only reason eagle can reach mount of doom later is bcoz Mordor is focusing on the gate, nazgul witchking slain, and Sauron clueless of frodo.Also no one predict Frodo will survive the land of mordor or Shelob.its diff with glorfindel tho.

@GojieeTV

2 жыл бұрын

No one was aware of Sauron’s Fel Flying beasts until one was first seen & shot down by Legolas. Eagles were instructed strictly not to intervene in the events of Men by Manwe. As for Glorfindel, Nerd of the Rings states that in the beginning of this video, he would be too powerful to conceal the Fellowships identity while traveling causing too much attention for a stealth mission.

One of my favorite characters. Great video Matt!

Thanks for sharing so much to us LOTR fans who might not have the time or access to read all of the material!

When you named Glorfindels horse I thought of a topic for a potential video: Horses of Middle Earth? If there is enough information on them that is

@TurinTuramber

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget Bill

I've been waiting for this video! One of my favorite characters. Thank you!

@NerdoftheRings

2 жыл бұрын

I've been looking forward to this one as well! So glad you liked it!

I recently started reading the silmarillian and your videos have really helped me understand what’s going on thank you!

@Enerdhil

2 жыл бұрын

Hang in there. Keep reading passages two or three or four times if you have to. That is what I had to do. It is worth it if you care to know more about Tolkien's Legendarium.

@NerdoftheRings

2 жыл бұрын

So glad to hear it!

I suspect Glorfindel was truly the most powerful elf in Middle Earth but not as wise as Galadriel and Elrond, which was why he seems to defer to them despite outranking them in sheer power levels. He allowed himself to be used as a blunt instrument of last resort, basically an elf enforcer.

@stewartb1019

2 жыл бұрын

Except Tolkien himself stated that Galadriel is the most powerful elf in Middle Earth. That said, it might only be due to her being a ring bearer while Glorfindel isn't.

Not 4 days past I was pining for a history and travels video for Glorfindel, thank you for this!

I'm all about liv Tyler but we missed out on such a great hero in the movies. Btw, any more info about the Rohan cartoon? What news from the riddemark?✌😉

@yololoyo7379

2 жыл бұрын

Make sense for the movie I guess. Also why he's not the main character, he's too powerful for the bad guys

So cool to see you use my original Ted nasmith glorfindel's bane by Ted nasmith!

@NerdoftheRings

2 жыл бұрын

It is a breathtaking piece!!

Love this! Glorfindel is one of my favourites!!!

I find this character fascinating. My beef with him is that much like Gandalf he was sent back to middle earth to turn the tide against Sauron and I feel like he felt short on that task. Although he’s responsible for the Witch King’s prophecy, however I think he could have played a more important role against the growing darkness. I was for sure disappointed not to see him in the LOTR 🎥 He of all elves I think was well suited to guide the fellowship along with Gandalf.

@rikkrakk4012

Жыл бұрын

In the game Battle for Middle Earth 2 Glorfindel was a leader on the Northern front of the War and fought alongside Elves and Dwarves to drive the enemy from Rivendell, Lothlorien, The Blue Mountains and The Grey Havens and it ends with the destruction of Dol Guldur and the ring. It's not canon but it's a great story. I imagine book Glorfindel would have done something similar but since we know so little about those fronts we just never heard about it. I can't picture a valiant hero like Glorfindel sitting to the side during all the chaos of the War of the Ring and this is a pretty reasonable place for him to be.

Glorfindel has to be my favorite Elf in all Tolkien’s writings

Your videos are awesome man, can you do a video explaining Tolkien’s life and what influenced him to create the legendarium? I appreciate you

@NerdoftheRings

2 жыл бұрын

Great idea! Maybe a good topic to cover in a special video on Tolkien's birthday! Thanks!

@Enerdhil

2 жыл бұрын

@@NerdoftheRings Whole books have been written on this subject. Good luck making a short video out of it...

Imagine if council agreed that Glorfindel joins the fellowship. Gandalf in Moria when Balrog arrives: "This foe is beyond any of y-..." Supercharged Glorfindel: "Yea, I'll take it from here." * proceeds to bitchslap the Balrog to smoke *

Glorfindel not playing a larger role in the third age is such a missed opportunity. It'd of been awesome to see him lead a group of elves sent by elrond into battle at the black gate to help the men there cutting through hoards of orcs renacting the great battle of the second age in a way. Hopefully in this Amazon lotr series he'll get some well deserved screen time after the movies wrote him out.

I Play Skyrim the Elderscrolls and played as an Elvf and named him Glorfindel and is a mix of a Warrior and mage!!😊

@KingHador

2 жыл бұрын

lol I am also playing Skyrim and my character is an imperial named Turin.

@amanda.7125

2 жыл бұрын

@@KingHador Nice!!😉

I hope you one day make a video on Eol and/or Aredhel. Or even Maeglin, cant really have one without the other. I find their stories tragic and devastating.

@NerdoftheRings

2 жыл бұрын

The dark elves would make a great topic! Adding it to my list!

@manuela1986

2 жыл бұрын

@@NerdoftheRings Yay looking forward to it!

@Enerdhil

2 жыл бұрын

Eol's story is a perfect story of how a person who is not and should not be evil allows his pride to overcome him and cause him to do evil things.

Finally a video on this powerul and interesting character , I have waited for this video for ages and it is finally here and it could not be better ! Keep it up mellon

Glorfindel!!! Also a little bit of a question from my Tolkien readings this morning, Aragorn mentions he had been thru Moria before LOTR, is there any background on that subject?

@lordheklsmosh9490

2 жыл бұрын

Dont quote me on it, but I do believe Aragorn goes thru moria on a his hunt for gollum.

@TheCinderestBlockAround

2 жыл бұрын

Lord hekl smosh ok, thank you so much

@lordheklsmosh9490

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheCinderestBlockAround Your welcome, glad I could help

Glorfindel is one of my favourite characters in LOTR. If I were to land in Middle-Earth, I would just go to Rivendell and have him and Elrond teach me everything, from fighting to knowledge and skills

@Enerdhil

2 жыл бұрын

Especially the lore. You would know more than Tolkien himself after a few months.

@iloveplumpgrannies174

11 ай бұрын

Same but my highest priority would be Tom Bombadil.

I think Gandalf was p[retty obvious too...though I do wonder two things: (1) Why not take the Ring to Valinor and give it to Manwe? Sauron is not going to get it from Manwe and Manwe was so much more powerful than Sauron, that I can't imagine it would corrupt him. I can imagine answers to this question, but I don't ever recall reading them. (2) If Glorfindel's power was so obvious, why not use that fact? Send Merry and Pippen with Glorfindel as a diversion. He could also rally forces against Sauron at the same time (that would probably help with the diversion anyway). It would be very much in keeping for him if Sauron assumed the halfling with the One Ring would be traveling with the most powerful person in Middle Earth after himself. Plus the Nazgul already saw him protecting the halfling with the ringf that they stabbed.

110% my favorite elf...not a kinslayer. He straight Tea bagged a balrog. Made the witch king think twice...gotta fucking love this feller.

Glorfindel is a great character Its a shame he was replaced by arwen in the movie ...

@Matchoochannel

2 жыл бұрын

well, the nazgul would be afraid of him and the whole scene would be boring since the nazgul would just run away form him. The movies did this on purpose lol

@mikelarsen5836

2 жыл бұрын

A case of Peter Jackson pandering to 'modern sensibilities' instead of keeping true to the original story.

@mauriciocantu6745

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikelarsen5836 Oh fuck off with your "it was pandering" bullshit. It would not have made any narrative sense to introduce an extremely powerful character which most people would not know/understand (unless the movie specifically devoted their already limit time to this) only to exclude him for the rest of the films. If people don't understand why they couldn't just use the Eagles to get to Mordor, they would not understand anything about Glorfindel. You can't fit everything in a 4 hour movie. Get over it.

@blaydeesy2005

2 жыл бұрын

@@mauriciocantu6745 you’re absolutely right. When I watched the movie I hadn’t read the books. Seeing such a powerful character, I’d have wondered why he wouldn’t be around after making his appearance. I think the movies did an amazing job, it inspired me to read every Tolkien book could find several times. And, here I am still learning.

@Snowmunkee

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikelarsen5836 what a terrible take....

All though I believe Glorfindel to be one of the greatest and most powerful elves of the first age. I still believe echthelian was the more powerful of the two.

@morgothbauglir8687

2 жыл бұрын

Glorfindel defeated a balrog, while ecthelion defeated gothmog, the lord of balrogs and high captain of angband

@lordheklsmosh9490

2 жыл бұрын

@@morgothbauglir8687 And 3 more Balrogs

I'm literally addicted to your channel...I love this!!

Glorfindel deserves to become a movie!

Glorfindel: Powerful Hair and Powerful Power! And he Kicked Balrog Butt!!!

It makes me sad that we know so little of his deeds during the War of the Ring thou i wouldnt dare to doubt that his missins where as dangerous as the one of the Fellowship.

Do you ever feel like you are being constantly watched? Glorfindel: Yes, all the time. Even I am working on boring paperwork.

One of the COOLEST characters of ALL TIME!!!!!!! Matt, I've benn thinking...maybe WB and New Line saw you video about animated Lotr and The Broken Sword's Brohirim and all and you inspired them to make an animated film😉

@Enerdhil

2 жыл бұрын

It is more likely that the executives of those companies realized that THEY, not Amazon, had the rights to make and distribute Tolkien movies. All they see is $$$$$$$$$$.

@rangerofthenorth1970

2 жыл бұрын

@@Enerdhil I know but I just wrote this because of..............I dont kniw, fun?

@Enerdhil

2 жыл бұрын

@@rangerofthenorth1970 Excellent! Keep posting and having fun! We need more fun here.

People complaining that Tom Bombadill was taken out of the films but I'd have rather seen this boss

Great vid Matt. I really hope we see Glorfindel play a solid role in the Amazon tv show

@NerdoftheRings

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely! Could be pretty epic!

Me, having been on a Glorfindel binge all week noticing your new video: 👀

Fantastic video of a fantastic character, very well done!

I loved this video, Keep it up! also, i would love a video on Gil-Galad sometime :)

I imagine Glorfindel did what he could to divert attention from the fellowship

My boy Glorf just chilling in Rivrndell laying mad elf pipe while the fellowship effs with their mission of the evil bauble.

I’m gonna rewatch your Glorfindel vs Nazgul at the river scene. Glorious.

Glorfindel is basically Tolkien's DMPC and the players were against having Glorfindel follow.

Another amazing video Matt!! Glorfindel is a great character and hero. I do wish we did know a little more about his background. I know it’s been said that he is from a house of Princes and makes me wonder if he’s somehow maybe related to Turgon because of how close they are or of someone in that house. I know Helena has a theory about it.

@Enerdhil

2 жыл бұрын

Glorfindel has to be related to Turgon because he is head of The House of the Golden Flower in Gondor. Tolkien Gateway agrees with this because they called him "a kinsman" of Turgon.

@ChiaraSiasat

2 жыл бұрын

@@Enerdhil he is either related to someone in the House of Finwe or could be related through Indis somehow. We will never know. One theory is that he is the son of one of Finwe’s daughters Findis or Irime but nothing of that is written down as true canon.

@Enerdhil

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChiaraSiasat It is not a small think for Tolkien to not include Glorfindel on anyone's family tree. We all lose this way.😢

Thank you so much for this video! Helps me a lot.

cool vid Matt really enjoyed it

(9:47) I always imagined what Frodo saw of his friends at the ford after he was becoming "wraith-like" besides the spirit essence of Glorfindel (shining white) and his friends (small shadowy forms) behind was the Hobbits waving their swords (that flared red). I suppose that it's likely meant that they were actually carrying fire brands like Aragorn did at Amon Sul, but to me I think it's cooler if he actually sees the auras of the swords (well, daggers, really!) of Westernesse charging up behind the Ringwraiths.

@CybershamanX

2 жыл бұрын

BTW, Glorfindel is probably my favorite character. Especially after reading The Fall of Gondolin. 😎

You read my mind! Thank you.

I love how these characters are masculine af. But still gentle and humble.

I’ve been waiting for this!

While I know that people love Glorfindel, I understand why Jackson removed him from the films. He doesn't really do anything in the Lord of the Rings story. I think it was a far better choice to give his actions to Arwen, establishing her as a skilled huntress that can sneak up on Aragorn, a better rider than the Ringwraiths, and possessing enough magic to call on the water. It makes us see why Aragorn loves her beyond superficial reasons and gives us a reason to care that she will die if the quest fails. Hopefully, Glorfindel is one of the main characters in the TV Series. The lack of knowledge about his actions gives the writers a lot of freedom to include him in unique ways.

@ladyalaina42

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think so. A bit incongruous that she remains cloistered at Rivendell a part invalid most of the movie.

@brooksboy78

2 жыл бұрын

Except it makes no sense. Why establish Arwen as a skilled fighter and then have her sheltered away at Rivendell for the rest of the story? She's set up to be something that she's not. They never do anything with her as a skilled fighter ever again. In contrast, she's moping around in Rivendell doing absolutely nothing for the rest of the narrative. Why not make it Legolas, who actually DOES fight and contribute to the narrative?

This is awesome. Thank you so much. :)

@NerdoftheRings

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for letting me use your awesome art of Valinor!

Have been waiting for this!

The best character ever. Great job, Matt.

Thank you 😊

Glorfindel, by far my favorite Elf. Nice Video man!!!

I remember reading in The Tolkein Companion that there were two Glorfindels. Thanks for clearing this up!

@sophiejones3554

2 жыл бұрын

This is due to when things were published. At the time that was written, this matter was still uncertain. Though in reading The Tolkien Companion, it is worth remembering that it reflects but one person's interpretation: and that person sometimes overlooked facts that were already published (as do we all on occasion). There are passages in The Lord of the Rings that hint at Glórfindel having lived in Gondolin: but Tolkien did keep it subtle, so it's understandable that it could be missed.

I do have many good channels that i can just start a video and enjoy a good narration of events, but recently your channel has become my most loved and favorite. This is my 7th video of yours that i see, i love the style and the soothingly calm voice. You've done a great job, i will watch your other uploads and i will look forward to the new ones as well. Edit: Subscribed!🥂