THE COMPLETE GUIDE to Karenina Scire | Punishing Gray Raven

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Karenina is here to bonk your black card bank. Today I'll be talking about S Karenina Scire 's skills, passives, ascensions, playstyle and gameplay tips, weapons, builds, pet, team synergies and overall pull and build recommendations.
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0:00 Intro
0:53 Overview
1:15 Basic Attack, QTE
1:31 Orb Abilities
2:08 Core Passive, Ultimate/Signature Move
3:55 TL;DR
4:11 Leader Passive & Ascensions/Evolution + Rank Recommendation
6:12 Weapons and resonance
6:53 Builds/Memories + Resonance, Hypertune
8:28 Team Setup
9:48 Playstyle and Rotations + Tips
11:14 Pet/CUB
11:41 Dark Tank Comparison
12:56 Pull/Build Recommendation
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  • @Spider2B
    @Spider2B Жыл бұрын

    9:22 if 2 condelina is used, run 2 ein on selena, but note the full rotation is really jank without cottie or deadline timing. 9:41 that should be 4 guinavere 2 gloria on vera. Also here’s the black card/breakpoint comparison for convenience: (i wont count einstein cause im tired) - SSS 21: 15% shred for 5s | cost: free.99 - SS tenebrion: 25% shred for 6s | cost: free.99 w/ selector and ppc - S karen with sig weapon: 25% shred for 12 sec with grouping/no setup | cost: 22.5k - SS3 karen with sig weapon + pet: same as above but actually does damage | cost: 37.5k with ppc - SSS karen with sig weapon + pet: same as above but does MUCH more damage | cost 67.5k with ppc - my mental cost making this video: too much pain Also you get a slightly shorter animation with the core passive soaring strike attack if you cast it farther away from the enemy since it auto locks onto enemies anyways. Huge thanks to Inoyuki for letting me borrow his SSS karenina to showcase and Kiyandere for helping me edit the intro so i could push out the video on time.

  • @KusoShikikan

    @KusoShikikan

    Жыл бұрын

    Should add that tenebrion needs to be in ult form to have the 25% shred

  • @marcodomingo3542

    @marcodomingo3542

    Жыл бұрын

    what do you mean by 1 limited 10 pull? Does it mean that you can only use those event cards in her patch?

  • @tartagliawithmoustache9408

    @tartagliawithmoustache9408

    Жыл бұрын

    I still don't understand much about the character upgrade for Karenina like SS3 as such.

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KusoShikikan it is mentioned in the video...

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    Жыл бұрын

    @@marcodomingo3542 no its the yellow tickets

  • @Zliarx
    @Zliarx Жыл бұрын

    The developers have a thing with karen, by making her difficult to be utilized

  • @vurhn2009

    @vurhn2009

    11 ай бұрын

    It does makes sense though.

  • @SixtyFourBlades
    @SixtyFourBlades Жыл бұрын

    I don't care if she's the most skipabble new gen character. I'm gonna SS3 her because that's what Karenina deserves.

  • @ProjectGU

    @ProjectGU

    Жыл бұрын

    Let the fools skip and keep coping on Tenebrion. I want some DOKO MITENDAYO IN MY LIFE 😊

  • @thebeastfromwithin3024

    @thebeastfromwithin3024

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm coping with Tenebrion.

  • @Chadedit55

    @Chadedit55

    Жыл бұрын

    Need help Bianca or Karerina

  • @raykirushiroyshi2752

    @raykirushiroyshi2752

    Жыл бұрын

    My non existent lightning and ice team need the BC more🥹

  • @crimsonphoenix8907

    @crimsonphoenix8907

    Жыл бұрын

    damn straight. I’ll get Fairy liv and Abystigmata too! I won’t be stopped 😤

  • @Pequod_LZ
    @Pequod_LZ Жыл бұрын

    Its such a shame she never uses her orbs, their animations are top notch

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, if you use her as a pure qte bot sometimes you can drop orbs before swapping out, but otherwise yeah u never really see them.

  • @Yotsuki10400
    @Yotsuki10400 Жыл бұрын

    Here I am, collecting all characters and letting them stay at SS and still have decent WZ and PPC scores

  • @kerbidygaming3121

    @kerbidygaming3121

    11 ай бұрын

    I can't do ultimate ppc. I get less skulls than the advanced🥲. I have hit pitty on every single character and dont have Signature weapons other than for Lucia Plume's , got it another time when I tried for Rosetta's...yes I lost the 70/30. And I have nanamech's and ember's signature. I'm completely f2p and I wasn't able to get Karen at SS3. Any advice?

  • @mikairiyuuki1355
    @mikairiyuuki1355 Жыл бұрын

    Her gameplay itself is what sold me..cant wait to summon her

  • @VERAfy
    @VERAfy11 ай бұрын

    What I love about Karerina Scire: 1. Tsundere, but not so stubborn asf. Her gentle side is stronger. 2. Spin to win. The floor is lava gameplay. 3. Her character story is cute and heartwarming. 4. VA of another tsundere (Tsundere Elf from Isekai Oji-san), also VA of Asuna (Tsundere too, but tsundere elf is best tsun tsun) 5. Got her signature weapon in 3 pulls after seeing her pull "me" in her idle animation. 6. The robot rabbit ears catches my eyes every now and then. 7. Kinda a dummie. Shoots with a hammer. Her other self hammers with a cannon. The heck is wrong with you? XD 8. Looks like free falling when you end a mission just after she spins. 9. Calls commandant an idiot while being one herself. 10. Clears every stage I have ever used her on no problem.

  • @bencenagy5459

    @bencenagy5459

    7 ай бұрын

    I just love her ultimate, it's like improvised earthbending, or just playing baseball with an impact greande

  • @TakiGamesOfficial
    @TakiGamesOfficial11 ай бұрын

    Her moveset is too satisfying to pass up even if she’s skippable. Kurogames is so good at making polearm based movesets.

  • @danvocals123
    @danvocals123 Жыл бұрын

    Great video, thank you! I personally will be pulling on Karen harder than any unit before because I simply hate Kamui’s gameplay. Got an SSS+ Vera and SS Luna. But I want Karen as the dps as much as possible.

  • @Sigma993
    @Sigma993 Жыл бұрын

    I love Karenina and never regretted getting her on JP despite just having her also only just at S-rank with signature weapon but since I barely played on global in the past weeks I might have to skip her this time. Balter is coming very soon and she is everything to me!

  • @watanigga8242
    @watanigga8242 Жыл бұрын

    I returned to this game because of her, of course I'm pulling for her

  • @ardacrous8429
    @ardacrous8429 Жыл бұрын

    That's quite the funny intro😂...love it!!!!

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, I'll send kiyan your thanks.

  • @Fate5591
    @Fate559110 ай бұрын

    As a new player and a Free-to-Play (F2P) gamer, I am fully dedicated to investing in her. My primary focus revolves around her gameplay, which has not only piqued my interest but also keeps me consistently engaged in the game. At present, I am in possession of an S-rank Karerina Scire character, albeit without her 6-star weapon. Regardless of this limitation, her damage-dealing capabilities remain remarkably impressive. I have managed to conquer all the current story content by relying solely on her prowess. However, a significant hurdle emerges when she is confronted by adversaries with Area of Effect (AOE) damage abilities, especially while she is still in her spinning mode. Navigating through and evading such attacks proves to be quite a formidable challenge. Nevertheless, aside from this particular obstacle, my overall experience with her is thoroughly gratifying.

  • @dogedingo1535
    @dogedingo1535 Жыл бұрын

    Thansk for the guide! As a new player I have to skip her though. Was lucky enough to get SS Tenebrion via pulls and just finished my dark team with Vera and Luna. I will pull for Liv Empyrea next fo finish my fire team. Then will save for Bianca Abystigma. Maybe one day whenever she gets her rerun I might pull for her.

  • @catsarecute7447
    @catsarecute7447 Жыл бұрын

    her gameplay looks really fun but i already spent all my bc last patches, gonna try to save now, good luck everyone pulling for karenina!

  • @challacustica9049
    @challacustica9049 Жыл бұрын

    Definitely getting her at SS3. Been waiting for a while, don't care about the meta. She's by far my favorite unit.

  • @cmike1942

    @cmike1942

    Жыл бұрын

    for best girl indeed

  • @nateklempner561

    @nateklempner561

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm getting her to SS3 with her signature for sure. And it'll probably not be for a while, but I'm going to try to SSS3 her with the Battle Pass shop once her shards get added into it maybe 6 or more months from now. Idk what the timeline is for the BP shop roster, so I'm just guessing she'll get added into it at some point.

  • @arkyflame1599

    @arkyflame1599

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@nateklempner561 She aint gonna be added for over 3 years so....

  • @Rejjis

    @Rejjis

    Ай бұрын

    She can, in less than 10 seconds, beat the Cursed Wave ultimate boss. That's how strong Scire is. I did 5 seconds.

  • @challacustica9049

    @challacustica9049

    Ай бұрын

    @@Rejjis are you talking about the corrupted data fragment (Liv) one, which you get from betraying Cradle? I am using Scire, but I'm certainly not getting that kind of output from her on that boss during second phase.

  • @SeekGrace
    @SeekGrace Жыл бұрын

    Man I love Power's laugh. PS: As a light spender, I'm saving for Balter.

  • @aceiido
    @aceiido Жыл бұрын

    I love tsundere characters and her Japanese va is one of my favourite va so she's definitely a must pulled but only going for s rank since my funds is reserved for Bianca

  • @coffeebreak7668
    @coffeebreak766811 ай бұрын

    Such a god send with these videos, answered all the questions I had. Unfortunately it means taking my f2p ass and skipping Karen

  • @sunghoonkisser
    @sunghoonkisser Жыл бұрын

    as someone who has and absolutely love my sss 21 and ss kamui, I'm sorry karen 🥹

  • @fiwcasanova
    @fiwcasanova Жыл бұрын

    beautiful well explained detalied video. your the boss

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    Жыл бұрын

    im just glad the video was comprehendible haha

  • @kerlarkdgrayman2704
    @kerlarkdgrayman270411 ай бұрын

    Just what I need to ground pound Unearthly Projection/Merciful One or Lilith in the future patch

  • @_real_es
    @_real_es Жыл бұрын

    i have practically no team other than my dark team built, but i dont care. I came back to pgr after finding out global was going to soon get dark karenina AND a pc port was coming out since the day i saw karenina daybreak gameplay i fell in love, she been my dream character for as long as i can remember. I WILL PULL FOR HER AND I WILL GET HER!!!!

  • @taeniskey5253
    @taeniskey5253 Жыл бұрын

    Been waiting for her since she released on CN, as my 2nd favorite waifu (lucia (both) being #1) of the game she's the only other one I'm willing to deeply invest in so im going for multiple copies of her and her weapon before her rate up ends. Plus only character im missing on my roster is S Lee so i dont even have to worry about the anniversay banner.

  • @Endkizztv
    @Endkizztv10 ай бұрын

    Thanks🎉

  • @jboyt6763
    @jboyt6763 Жыл бұрын

    Hope you'll be playing wuthering waves when it releases man. Your videos are great. Will need you in the next game too

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    Жыл бұрын

    Def will

  • @sugoidekaikimochi
    @sugoidekaikimochi11 ай бұрын

    I don't even care about damage or being future proof anymore. I just want to see that cute outro everyday.

  • @danielmccloud3800
    @danielmccloud3800 Жыл бұрын

    Karenina has embraced Kuru kuru

  • @AJ-0013
    @AJ-0013 Жыл бұрын

    I would still pull for her and upgrade her to SS with skulls, as for her sig.. well I'll get it later.. I'll use the 5 star weapon temporarily. I personally don't care about meta anyways. Thx for the guide Spider2b!!

  • @TigrrGoesOHAI
    @TigrrGoesOHAI Жыл бұрын

    I wish I could skip her but I can't! Karen is great. She's been my physical dps since I started a year ago, during first anni

  • @tetsuo9999
    @tetsuo9999 Жыл бұрын

    So I have Tenebrion at base S with a 5 star weapon, S Luna with sig, and SSS+ 21 with mats to max her if needed. Is it worth getting SS3 Karen? I can guarantee her with pity, but scars aren't enough for SS3? I also have SSS Capriccio.

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    Жыл бұрын

    Up to you. You dont NEED SS3 to be meta relevant, just if you want her to do dmg

  • @twitzmixx8374

    @twitzmixx8374

    Жыл бұрын

    imo skip Daren.

  • @highstudentproduction8195
    @highstudentproduction819511 ай бұрын

    As the first 6 stars unit i got. She deserves the love and im not even finish Luna story so i still had some currency

  • @imdion4312
    @imdion4312 Жыл бұрын

    SPEEEEEEEEN

  • @darkcloud8244
    @darkcloud8244 Жыл бұрын

    So hype for her

  • @potatoo213
    @potatoo213 Жыл бұрын

    Would pull for her and definitely finally change tank kamui since his been with me at the start

  • @Rejjis

    @Rejjis

    11 ай бұрын

    Me too! Tenebrion has carried my team majority of my gameplays.

  • @VeraExora
    @VeraExora Жыл бұрын

    KAREEEEENNN. LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @veasnaflannery5966
    @veasnaflannery596611 ай бұрын

    congrats on graduating!

  • @saltissalty3498
    @saltissalty34987 ай бұрын

    Fun fact: The enhanced spinning speed of SS3 Karenina has a side effect of making her voiceline faster as well, resulted in a slightly higher pitch especially when you going straight to Ult during the spinning animation.

  • @exiletheblank
    @exiletheblank Жыл бұрын

    Dunking on Moon Devourer while playing Space Jam has never been so satisfying

  • @Kitsune10060
    @Kitsune1006011 ай бұрын

    weapon + 2 dups is a bit of an ask, BUT, it's not terrible. I guess ... got her last night after reset off the free anni 10 spin we got. so yay for that.

  • @alekddevil
    @alekddevil Жыл бұрын

    Had to replay the 2:22 part like 3 times, because I could not stop laughing at the dude with the dumpster.

  • @twitzmixx8374

    @twitzmixx8374

    Жыл бұрын

    poor kid, but I can't help myself lmao

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    Жыл бұрын

    The trash took out him 😭

  • @TinyyTato
    @TinyyTato Жыл бұрын

    I have Kamui SS I think and I rarely use him. Karen looks fun I'll try to see if I can get her.

  • @yearslate9349
    @yearslate9349 Жыл бұрын

    Dangit... I am most of the way to SS-Kamui, already have his 6-star weapon, am short on BC, and *still* find myself tempted to get her. I'm gonna be struggling with this for the next few weeks, hard. Curse you, tsundere.

  • @simplydave9649
    @simplydave9649 Жыл бұрын

    I'm probably not gonna go for the pet but my plan will be to SS3 her. So I guess it's "somewhat" affordable enough.

  • @bruhh3543
    @bruhh354311 ай бұрын

    After seeing Lamia I think Karen is an must pull. The new standard banner with 100% when Lamia patch comes out is a great opportunity for me to get SS3 Karen Now I'm pulling for one copy, weapon and her pet

  • @mijikanijika

    @mijikanijika

    11 ай бұрын

    same

  • @gavriil2427

    @gavriil2427

    11 ай бұрын

    Same bruh

  • @gavriil2427

    @gavriil2427

    11 ай бұрын

    The 100% choice banner right?

  • @bruhh3543

    @bruhh3543

    11 ай бұрын

    @@gavriil2427 yes!

  • @babadookdi4921
    @babadookdi4921 Жыл бұрын

    I might pull her late season, or maybe not, it all depends on the amount of BC and character tickets that I might gather this season, thanks to the fact that I'm only 10 pulls away from getting any new character.

  • @zarael9816
    @zarael9816 Жыл бұрын

    I think I'm goin to roll for her but won't fully invest on her yet just slowly build her since I'm not really competitive to others and cause I want to roll for the anni banner (I'm Rosetta less aight), plus I have my teneb on ss and I don't want to waste his skin that I got cause his attack movements and the sound effects are more satisying for me when I play teneb imo

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep, it's what i did too. I ran her S with sig for a LONG time.

  • @ryanhau1073
    @ryanhau107311 ай бұрын

    I NEED TO SPEAK TO YOUR MANAGER NOW!

  • @chaldea_
    @chaldea_ Жыл бұрын

    I just finished building my Tenebrion, and I don't like her gameplay, so it's my first ever skip. Thanks for the video!

  • @iFishFrogs
    @iFishFrogs Жыл бұрын

    Karenina to the moon!

  • @InnocentUncle
    @InnocentUncle Жыл бұрын

    I don’t even have kamui dark, and I’m planning to save bc for the real meta attackers that come later so I guess I’ll just use sss no21 until the end of time

  • @FunZenCh
    @FunZenCh Жыл бұрын

    My only dark team for warzone since last year is astral,vera and 21 😅

  • @Dark-yo7dd

    @Dark-yo7dd

    Жыл бұрын

    i am gonna use luna no21 and vera soon LMFAO do u get a good score or not l0l ?

  • @deederelict
    @deederelict11 ай бұрын

    My fingers will never recover

  • @onokenfudou3394
    @onokenfudou3394 Жыл бұрын

    I'm honestly deciding if I'm going to skip her for the anniversary banner or not, since there's a unit I'm missing for my fire team in it (Liv), and since I'm planning on investing on fire god Lee and True Fire God Lee, kinda need her for it to work lol.

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd go anni banner personally, liv makes a big difference

  • @rjhaybarcenas1540

    @rjhaybarcenas1540

    Жыл бұрын

    Go for live id say, like literally when she release(survival lucem) fire team just literally came back to the dead of meta team comp, like she is a hero of a fire team.

  • @imfrank6785

    @imfrank6785

    11 ай бұрын

    Go for Liv imo, dark Karenina is either too or a bit expensive built to come close to SS Tenebrion. Liv Flashbang however are a HUGE upgrade for fire so much so she is pretty Fire team sub-dps.

  • @Ryltar123
    @Ryltar123 Жыл бұрын

    I think that i will just buy more BC to get her to SS3 and do the same for Bianca when her new frame will come out.

  • @Ossuum
    @Ossuum Жыл бұрын

    Me: wait, those orbs actually look great, how come I've overlooked them for so long? Spider: into the trash they go, lol Me: ah, that's why. I suppose Laurel already covers the 3-ping daisy-chains gameplay, but damn, I would've probably went for Daybreak if she played more like Jayce than a tilted Garen.

  • @asiswritten9029
    @asiswritten9029 Жыл бұрын

    I have 25k BC and 11k tickets right now, 7k cub tickets as well. If I get either the weapon or her first copy early I might SS3 her.

  • @mariquez3664
    @mariquez3664 Жыл бұрын

    I'll definitely pull for her even if I have tenebrion at SS with SG idgf about meta I want my waifu Karenina After her I'll now wait for Hanying, Bambi, Hyperreal, Crimson Weaver, and furry No.21 though I might skip Balter cuz tbh I don't like her that much compare to the ones I mentioned but idc everyone has preferences Because *My Goals Are Beyond Your Understanding*

  • @Rejjis

    @Rejjis

    11 ай бұрын

    Whoa, you might be the most sane one out of everyone I've come across.. because I'm skipping balter too. I have Nier team for physical anyways. My A2 shreds so fast.

  • @fqck1999

    @fqck1999

    11 ай бұрын

    Im just going to get alpha on the free ticket in balter event lol.

  • @Teabreak-venerate
    @Teabreak-venerate Жыл бұрын

    Quick question, do you have an equipment recommendation for my dark team of luna, tenebrion and Vera, also if I have 8k now and skip every banner can I get liv coating + balter during September?

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    Жыл бұрын

    1. Luna 4 flamel 2 darwin top Tene 4 bathlon 2 ein top Vera 4 davinci 2 guin Vera starter, Luna leader 2. Yes

  • @hamimavalon8332
    @hamimavalon8332 Жыл бұрын

    Ouch ouch ouch , gotta save up for Balter and Liv dark coating

  • @razminm.3260
    @razminm.32603 ай бұрын

    Im sorry but im gonna rant a bit. Im new and just pulled karen on standard banner on pity. I wasn't even trying to get her, i just want A chrome. My dumbass doesn't know that It's not guaranteed to get a rank if you get an s rank. So i pulled again and got astral. At that point i already spent much blue cards so might just go all the way and then receive 3 copies of chrome 🥲. He came late. So the real question is, I have tenebrion from beginners selector, 21 from license selector and karen all at s rank. I believe I should just roll with karen rn because more dark shred , is that right? Also i wanna ask when s 21 and 100 rate up banner (if there's any) will be up.

  • @Rejjis
    @Rejjis Жыл бұрын

    Imagine having all three... Where even the meta still has them all at this point. I'm actually hoping for Lamia to be the next dark attacker. No, don't want uncle to be hahhaha!

  • @Akidragy
    @Akidragy Жыл бұрын

    Sorry to the Tsundere with a hammer... Haicma mommy tempted me 😔

  • @lionelsioco123
    @lionelsioco123 Жыл бұрын

    i just kinda came back from this game (like 2 weeks ago) and i left my lvl 41 "not so good account" since the time the game was new, so i went back to zero, and now i was at lvl 73 so far. My chars compose of the beginner ones (not invested but kinda lvl 55 lucia, liv lvl 43 and nanami lvl 45 (i think?), and the rest i rolled using basic contruct tickets like Vera: Rozen, No. 21 and Watanabe: Astral (all lvl 73 with 6star memories nearing max lvl that i got from Haicma event), adn yes..... all are Dark characters, so meaning i missed kinda of everything and what i heard of the free S-selector that my certain friend told me (i think that was Luna) so...thanks for the recommendation.... maybe i'll just skip Karenina Scire i think, hearing that anniversary is coming, i have still around 12k BC and 2500 gold tickets that was given during quest, haven't done the stage for the A-rank Selena: Capriccio(?) since im busy with the event.... yeah... still working on some of iit, havent yet much started farming the shards since the event also....

  • @lionelsioco123

    @lionelsioco123

    Жыл бұрын

    not to mention, i havent use my S-rank Selector from my beginner one since i havent yet finish pulling from my basic construct (still waiting for the tickets of course hahah, aint using the BC)

  • @thezombie104
    @thezombie10411 ай бұрын

    Normal karanina is fine (I will get her to ss3 and her sig next anniversary) need to keep thr bc for bianca and her skin can't wait anymore

  • @mels004
    @mels00411 ай бұрын

    she is so fun to play, that, i must get her, plus she IS beautiful

  • @jancarlomendoza9633
    @jancarlomendoza9633 Жыл бұрын

    Some might say she is skippable but she is a fine addition to my collection.

  • @azearebellatrix
    @azearebellatrix11 ай бұрын

    Her gameplay reminds me of DMC, and I love it...too bad I already used my BC and tickets for Anni pull...😭

  • @axios4702
    @axios4702 Жыл бұрын

    I'm gonna pull her for the sake of having a complete collection, but I doubt I'll ever use her. Shame cause she looks fun to play as, but I just can't justify the BC cost to make her viable when I have Tenebrion at SS with his signature weapon.

  • @sclarke581
    @sclarke581 Жыл бұрын

    Great video but question, will all future release need to be ss3 or is Daren the only release unit that is this expensive to built?

  • @reycole8837

    @reycole8837

    Жыл бұрын

    SS3 is recommended for all of them. They are way more powerful than the v1 constructs even at ss tho

  • @twitzmixx8374

    @twitzmixx8374

    Жыл бұрын

    Only Daren is needed at SS3. Everybody else is good with SS.

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    Жыл бұрын

    Ss is fine for most of the future ones, karen just expensive cause tsundere?

  • @kaeyoru7541
    @kaeyoru754111 ай бұрын

    Im glad i pulled for her + im gonna skip every banner for lee hyper real and alpha crimson weave

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    11 ай бұрын

    skipping balter madlad

  • @julisvega34
    @julisvega34 Жыл бұрын

    Tbh I was going to pull for her but I have 21 at sss and kamui at SS. I think I’m going to save my 20 pull guarantee for hyper real

  • @user-vg6ts9tz4o
    @user-vg6ts9tz4o11 ай бұрын

    Question, if im gonna skip her and go for the anniv banner who should I go for between vera garnet and liv empyrea? I dont have anyone for fire team and I only have lux for the lightning team.

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    11 ай бұрын

    I think liv is slightly higher priority but more expensive team while vera you can build a team around her with A ranks. Both are good though.

  • @NovayaKevin
    @NovayaKevin Жыл бұрын

    Want to ask something, if i don't have 21 with her sign wp (SSS though) will karen perform the same/better at S without her weapon? Assuming both of them as Support

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    Жыл бұрын

    A bit better, she gets 5% more dark shred with longer duration and grouping on qte.

  • @Izanagi009
    @Izanagi009 Жыл бұрын

    just to ask, if you use Condelia on SS3 or higher Dark karen, i saw that you can make Capprico the Eins holder if Capprico is sss with orb weapon resonance. is this viable or not? if not viable then is Eins not used if condelia is used on ss3 dark karen

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes viable, i tend to run it less since Selena's rotation is not as smooth without cottie so i lean a bit more towards 2 ein personally.

  • @Izanagi009

    @Izanagi009

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Spider2B i see, that is interesting to consider but in theory, i might get SSS+ Selena in the future through selecotrs nad what not so the issue is minizmied

  • @Rejjis

    @Rejjis

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Izanagi009don't do selector. Battle pass gives her for free bro! PLEASE USE THE SELECTOR FOR BETTER THINGS I BEG YOU 😢

  • @Izanagi009

    @Izanagi009

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Rejjis true enough but i have SSS for most of the S rank units: Luminance, Luna, Plume, Glory, Flare, Mech nanami, empyrea, vertias, rosetta, Capricio and probalby one or two more i'm not remembering. Only ones that aren't SSS i think are entropy, pulse and crimson abyss off the top of head

  • @secondtest1454
    @secondtest1454 Жыл бұрын

    Not sure if youre making vids for the leap upgrades so I'll just ask here. Is it worth to spend ppc skulls/battlepass tickets on Liv Luminance SS? Or is she fine at S.

  • @sinow_7

    @sinow_7

    Жыл бұрын

    Luminance is definitely worth it to get to SS and above with her leap upgrade. She'll be the best physical support for a while, until Arisa comes out in roughly a year or so. I'd probably use the BP vouchers, though, and not PPC skulls.

  • @twitzmixx8374

    @twitzmixx8374

    Жыл бұрын

    worth it imo. SS gives 10% more physical buff and 15% extra damage buff against enemies inside her blue orb.

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    Жыл бұрын

    I will make a video on Liv but it you have spare bp tickets then yes. I would prioritize ppc skulls for other s ranks

  • @ZAYKONN
    @ZAYKONN Жыл бұрын

    Honestly, I really just need to pump my dark team I just recently got Luna from the ticket and I didn't get to grab Dark Selena from the banner The state if my 21, Astral and Vera are depressing and considering that my pity for units is basically at 80, I'll probably get her and throw in the rare materials I've been hoarding for months. I might've prefered to use on someone else, but if I keep thinking like this I won't use them at all. Then I guess SSS Vera will have to come next as I don't feel like sharding Selena knowing that she will be in a future ticket.

  • @marineo7184
    @marineo7184 Жыл бұрын

    I have spare accounts (screw trying to graduate students, I’ll graduate myselves) so I’ll pull for her on one of them. I am going to invest more on fire team because my favs are in them and I at least want to have one meta element team so I don’t have to tryhard much.

  • @VincentLloydM
    @VincentLloydM11 ай бұрын

    I have questions... I Know you said it's optional to get her pet, and it's really only meant for DPS Karenina, but I'm torn on whether I should try and pull for that, or pull potentially for Rosettas cub. Which one is more bang for you buck since Luminance just got her leap, and Rosetta is getting her soon? Is the cub damage difference/utility really noticeable for Karenina? I've heard Rosetta really needs her sig + Cub to elevate the physical team. If Karenina's pet isn't that big of a boost since SS3 already does so much damage, would it generally be better to try and go for that instead?

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    11 ай бұрын

    Rosetta for sure if karenina is not ss3

  • @strykerssg6302
    @strykerssg630211 ай бұрын

    9:41 Is 2 characters holding 2 4-set of Da Vinci actually a thing? Da Vinci cooldown time is shared with each other, is it not?

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    11 ай бұрын

    Oh shit that's a typo. That's ment to say 4 guinavere 2 gloria on vera.

  • @savagelove1939
    @savagelove1939 Жыл бұрын

    What I'm excited about is the banger Last Resort sound playing in the background while fighting the boss. And I'm torn between Karenina ang Garnet. Any suggestions?

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    Жыл бұрын

    Garnet (and yes last resort slaps, ghostfinal never miss)

  • @georgie4024
    @georgie4024 Жыл бұрын

    That intro😂😂😂

  • @JoseHernandez-bf4en
    @JoseHernandez-bf4en Жыл бұрын

    Should i go for selene banner rate up anivers instead of this karenina if i have SS tenebrion right?

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    Жыл бұрын

    Selena capriccio will not be on rate up on anni, only up to liv empyrea

  • @johnnyyespapa1368
    @johnnyyespapa136811 ай бұрын

    Hi Spider 2b, I got a question. How strong in terms of smog Karerina SS3 + sig when compared to Luna s/ss with 5* . I can afford to pull 2 copies of her , but I’m not sure after all this investment… can she put dmg Luna and carry the dark team

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    11 ай бұрын

    she will slightly outpace luna here

  • @humidificateurhydraulique3321
    @humidificateurhydraulique3321 Жыл бұрын

    No way i'm skipping her but dont know if i'm ready to replace tenebrion in the dark team

  • @user-vg6ts9tz4o
    @user-vg6ts9tz4o11 ай бұрын

    Man, im having a hard time on whether to go for her banner or the old units to start building another team besides my current dark and ice team.

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    11 ай бұрын

    Id prioritize other s ranks first

  • @Prodigal450
    @Prodigal450 Жыл бұрын

    Grats on ur degree! What did you major in?

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    Жыл бұрын

    ty, computer engineering

  • @Prodigal450

    @Prodigal450

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Spider2B nice!

  • @blackpitch6640
    @blackpitch6640 Жыл бұрын

    I like how she pout every end game

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    Жыл бұрын

    Never gets old

  • @mangodude2663
    @mangodude266311 ай бұрын

    For me who didn't get Luna (didn't get to play much PGR during that time :X) i gonna SS3 her because Hammers goes brrrrr bonk

  • @themusicheart167
    @themusicheart167 Жыл бұрын

    Me with an accidental SS Camui. "SKIP"

  • @shenshiya9474

    @shenshiya9474

    Жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @MadCh3m1st
    @MadCh3m1st Жыл бұрын

    Ok, so let me tell u mine situation: I have an fully-BASICALLY upgraded S Kamui w/o sig (don't plan to either SS him from PPC or get signature for him as for now). My XXI is only S not upgraded at all and I don't gonna upgrade her any soon (too little value, especially since I have S Kamui already). I usually get all chars basically upgraded with 5* weapons (additionally SS for uns). So my plan is to get Daren ONCE (sig only if I get her off-guarantee very early, but GL to me then) and give her 5*. Will she still gonna be a useless garbo w/o any practical and efficient use (not counting modes like Babel and alike) even in dark team (Use SSS Wata + S Kamui and SS A Vera rn since I only recently got Luna and can't upgrade her rn and don't ask me how it all ended up like that for me)? Thanks for the video anyway and waiting hopefully for your answer.

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    Жыл бұрын

    She's not useless it's just her and tenebrion would be performing the same role. At base S 5 star for both, karenina slightly edges out tenebrion for the qte grouping.

  • @lynkios
    @lynkios Жыл бұрын

    Man, why did they made her so expensive, I actually have the BC for SS3 at least but I'm a returning f2p player and want to get either Starfarer, Empyrea, Garnet or Glory from the Anni banners to catch up my other teams😥

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah she's a rough one. Most char don't need ss3 to be good, many are fine at ss in the future, just karen specifically is ehhhh.

  • @lynkios

    @lynkios

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Spider2B I'm still planning to get her and farm her to SS0 bc I really like Karen but guess her SS3 will have to wait quite a bit until I find a banner I really want to skip 😔

  • @loreythehusky

    @loreythehusky

    Жыл бұрын

    The good thing is i heard there will be a S rank selector that will include Liv Empyrea, but we must wait for Lucia Crimson Weave update to get it. Hope you will enjoy either Karenina or Liv, i'm definitely going to pull for her btw

  • @lynkios

    @lynkios

    Жыл бұрын

    @@loreythehusky I'm currently considering pulling for Nanami Starfarer over Liv Empyrea tbh so might pick up Empyrea in that selector even when it's months away. I'm definitely getting Karen no matter what, I actually rerolled for Ember when I started on release, even when she isn't great

  • @TigrrGoesOHAI

    @TigrrGoesOHAI

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lynkios Getting nanami over Liv is fine if for waifu reasons, but just so you know Liv Empyrea *is* the fire team's damage. The new nanami is fun to play but she's just there to fill Liv's downtime really

  • @wisdoom9153
    @wisdoom9153 Жыл бұрын

    "...use Condeline instead" Me: *mindblown*

  • @zeromailss
    @zeromailss11 ай бұрын

    I love Karenina but I can't afford to SS3 her so I will be skipping her for now esp cuz I have SS teneb with his sign

  • @AgentY464
    @AgentY46411 ай бұрын

    Kamui tenebrion is still my love, if I get Karenina it's gonna be for the darkness shred for kamui dps😂😂😂

  • @MotivationExceeds
    @MotivationExceeds10 ай бұрын

    I'm in a weird spot as a f2p newbie who got 2 copies of Scire and her signature weapon. And now it's Luna's arrival banner, is it worth going for Luna or should i just wait untill i get SS3 Scire from PPC?

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    10 ай бұрын

    Don't pull arrival banners, 70% rate up is too risky. You can get luna from the free s rank selector in about a month ish instead.

  • @MotivationExceeds

    @MotivationExceeds

    10 ай бұрын

    @@Spider2B oh, didn't know that coming, thank you.

  • @lutzgeier1109
    @lutzgeier1109 Жыл бұрын

    I don't care about meta (case in point: my Phys team is dps + two tanks, and the dps is Entropy even though I have CA :D my goals are beyond your and my understanding) and Karen is my girl so definitely pulling but not go all in for the investment part, I'll make things work somehow and just have fun with it ✩

  • @lordofshadow7041
    @lordofshadow704111 ай бұрын

    I'm going with Ss or maybe sss, her weapon also and her cub, But I hope to get them early or smth at least than save for mommy bianca 🥵

  • @b.ardner6903
    @b.ardner6903 Жыл бұрын

    I need her to complete my dark team supremacy. Huh? Kamui? Who's that?

  • @sakuraa_a
    @sakuraa_a Жыл бұрын

    i just realised i don't even have 10k bc but as long as i can gruntee liv skin and bianca that's ok i was going to skip her already also if they gonna give us selector on the anniversary does veritas worth it? 8 months until ca release idk

  • @Spider2B

    @Spider2B

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes if you're missing her

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