The similarities to Eurasian steppe warfare with no contact between the two is amazing

@dtkuang5137

Жыл бұрын

In evolutionary biology, we call it convergent evolution

@bdoon51

Жыл бұрын

Xlent analogy

@haleyguthrie3113

Жыл бұрын

Seriously

@aunch3

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. I suppose similar landscape creates similar tactics

@leunisvandewege9651

Жыл бұрын

Maybe the two are homo sapiens.

The Mongol horde of the southern plains.

@DanielABQNM

Жыл бұрын

Pretty much

@stevensmith3914

Жыл бұрын

I tell ya

@Haylalnine

Жыл бұрын

And the government was Jin and the samurai 😕

@JohnBrennan-pt9kg

Жыл бұрын

A race of nomads who take pleasure in torturing women and children to death are not themselves worthy

@alfredlear4141

Жыл бұрын

Yep

If you found this 17 minutes interesting, I highly recommend the book "The Empire of the Summer Moon ".

@JME1186

Жыл бұрын

Is indeed a great read. Good call Mark

@oscarb9139

Жыл бұрын

Empire of the Summer Moon, and The Captured.

@stevanator1630

6 ай бұрын

no the comanche empire is a much better book@@oscarb9139

@flormorena8627

Ай бұрын

Thanks 🙏

Moral of the story: Don't bully any small tribes because they might find a way to get stronger and come after you.

@vermithrax7796

9 ай бұрын

In other words, "the enemy of my enemy."

@mehmeh7718

3 ай бұрын

Like they themselves didn’t terrorise other indigenous tribes?

@Graplernapler

17 күн бұрын

The ultimate neo liberal sentement! Thank you, stealing that line. (Comment not accusatory.)

Their mastery of horses is awe inspiring. The German settlers around New Braunfels actually bought oxen instead of horses because the Commanche always took the horses.

@onlythewise1

Жыл бұрын

without horses west wouldn't got developed or the oxen

@philippsaga4180

Жыл бұрын

Ze germans ...gotta love em😊

@Sturminfantrist

Жыл бұрын

The Boer settlers in south africa used Oxen instead of Horses to haul heavy cargo Wagons and for farming. When i was a little boy some poor Farmers here used Oxen or a special Horsebreed called "Kaltblüter" (a big and heavy Horse, slow but tough) for farming because a Tractor was to expensive and "normal" Horses cant do the heavy work.

@100perdido

10 ай бұрын

I use the same tactic around here. I drive an old ugly car that nobody wants to steal.

@claytondutton4180

9 ай бұрын

The Germans used oxen instead of horses because that's what they were originally used to doing. Nothing more.

The Comanche reminded me of the Mongols covering hundreds of miles in a day on horseback.

They tortured babies and children, cut their eyelids off and buried them into ant hills. Monsters. Worst of the worst. The Comanche were hated by all other tribes

@gatocles99

Жыл бұрын

Most conquerors in history were evil. It is the nature of the Human.

@kenneth9874

Жыл бұрын

Torture was widespread and common practice from coast to coast

@lewisclark5694

Жыл бұрын

@@kenneth9874 that is true.

@brycepardoe658

Жыл бұрын

It's called collective punishment. Tribalism is the natural state of human beings. For most of our history both reward and punishment were dished out collectively. Furthermore brutality serves the purpose of deterrence. In the absence of a centralised state authority realistically deterrence is all one has militarily speaking.

@lewisclark5694

Жыл бұрын

@@brycepardoe658 it’s called brutal torture, and it was done for fun and pleasure.

The near extinction of the buffalo was a big part of the defeat of the plains tribes.

Came across your videos a few days ago. Great content! As a history teacher in Texas I’m happy to see so much wonderful information on Texas history.

They may have been ferocious but they did stop for some photos though.

@flormorena8627

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂

Movies------- A Man called Horse.......Return of a Man called Horse Richard Harris, an English Lord and obscenely wealthy, was captured while on a hunting trip to the US West and lived with Sioux tribe. He found their way much better than living in a huge mansion. GREAT MOVIE that depicted old rituals that were very sacred. Enjoyed both very much

This channel is slowly becoming one of my favorites

Based. One of the most accurate yet respectful coverings of a native tribe I have seen on this platform. You also got a good chuckle out of me with that 'or claimed to' bit at the beginning.

@2WheelsForever

Жыл бұрын

The Commanche were demon possessed . Truly. Why people are enamored and romanticize a tribe of people who gleefully raped and mutilated their victims is far beyond me to comprehend. Not to escape the atrocities that western man did to the indigenous tribes and peoples but truly the Commanche were demon possessed ..I thank God for the United States Cavalry AND the Texas Rangers for putting these rabid dogs down.

@bwm3013

9 ай бұрын

What is based? Do you mean biased?

I've always LOVED that map used in the opening,, and plan on getting it soon. Came across your channel by chance. Looking forward to viewing the entire series. Thanks so much for the upload :)

Amazing video, I’m doing a documentary on a Comanche massacre that happened around the town of Llano in the Legion Valley area. This massacre actually happened on land that me and my family own over there. I love to here more about Comanche and there culture!

The Comanche were much more cosmopolitan than is frequently presented. In central Texas and had long standing friendly relations with many other tribes. The Caddo from east Texas would yearly visit, trade, and hunt Bison with the Comanche, and on occasion participate in mutual supporting raids and attacks. For example the battle at Stampede Creek/Bird's Creek in Bell Co. consisted of Comanche, Caddo, and Kickapoo who were hunting Bison when they came into contact with Texas Rangers and a bloody fight that followed.

@historyattheokcorral

Жыл бұрын

That is true and we're going to do much more on them. They also had agreements w the Germans in and around New Braunfels, theres still a treaty hanging at the Comanche Tribal HQ in Oklahoma! We'll do lots more on this, just wanted an indtroduction video. Such a fascinating tribe!

@nmarbletoe8210

Жыл бұрын

@@historyattheokcorral also a lasting peace treaty with New Mexico, de Anza and Comanche chief Ecueracapa signed it in 1786

@marcwhittle9810

Жыл бұрын

@@masterofreality1552 that has nothing to do with the cosmopolitan nature of the Comanche society. Both the Tonkawa and Karankawa tribes were aggressive towards other Indigenous peoples and much given to cannibalism which the other tribes such as the Comanches abhorred and were mortal enemies. There were always polities and enemies. Look up the battle at Stampede Creek and the participants and make a case that the Comanche were not a cosmopolitan society.

@marcwhittle9810

Жыл бұрын

@@masterofreality1552 show me one, even one, recorded case of Comanche consuming human flesh, it was a horrific concept to them as a culture. I never said the Comanche were flower children spreading peace and love. Their torture and raids are well known and documented but so are there many recorded instances of friendly relations between Comanche and other peoples such as the German community of Fredericksburg in Gillespie Co. Tx. You are whipping a dead horse my friend

@nativeredman9940

Жыл бұрын

@@masterofreality1552 We only ate their hearts. We're very cosmopolitan! 🙂

So much for the peaceful native.

@quinton01

4 ай бұрын

So much for the peaceful invaders.

@rickandosca8262

2 ай бұрын

The same things all over the earth---not about race---it`s about humans from forever.

I enjoyed the vid. Please follow up on the rest of the history of the Comanche An EXCELLENT book on the rise and fall of the Comanche is 'Empire of the Summer Moon' by S. C. Gwynne.

Just found your channel! I love it. I am a historian (my college degree) by trade and I was just recently wondering if there was a channel like this. Congratulations on the view counts going up!

@historyattheokcorral

Жыл бұрын

Welcome friend!

@robbyb2575

11 ай бұрын

An

This is a fantastic video. You should do one on the iron confederacy and cree traders and their introduction of the gun and other goods to the tribes in the northern plains, mainly the blackfoot. they used to be allies initially and became the power houses of the north. but like you said in the video, most of the biggest horse herds were in the southern plains because of the better climate and other factors.

Proud of my heritage!❤

@markgray6982

Жыл бұрын

And You should be,,,i live in Hill Country Texas, Comanche creek runs thru our Ranch, i found Lance heads, arrow heads and a fleshing rock that really cool, its awesome to reach down and pick up a arrow head that was last touched by a Comanche Warrior

@oliviaarteaga4092

Жыл бұрын

@@markgray6982 that sooo awesome I need to visit that town

@brycepardoe658

Жыл бұрын

I'm Māori and am fascinated with the history of your people. Similar in many ways yet also drastically different in very important ways. I've read two books so far and want to hopefully someday soon visit the native lands of your people. Amazing heritage and amazing people.

@russellbree6458

Жыл бұрын

​@@brycepardoe658 Napui or Waikato ?

@brycepardoe658

Жыл бұрын

@@russellbree6458 Rongowhakaata

I am so glad I found this channel ❤

The to the Commanche's demise was the six shot revolver which was introduced to the whites in Texas around 1850. A ranger then could carry two pistols with several additional preloaded cylinders

Excellent piece! Definitely learned a lot look forward to more!

@historyattheokcorral

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Great story very well told thank you.Keep them coming please,one small point,the motto of the special air service is Who dares wins

Excellent and Outstanding Analysis!!!

@historyattheokcorral

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

"The Comanche reached a level of violence that had never been seen before..." and ended on a reservation.

Yes, excellent presentation--- Seems like a more overall historical view of the Comanche, other than the views of settlers in the depredation book of Texas----

Learning more about the Comanche indians I was dumb founded of the cruelness of this tribe.Their throwing a baby into a river to watch a captured exausted women go time and time again to save her child while they laughed with glee is unsettiling.

@historyattheokcorral

Жыл бұрын

The Old West was far more brutal than most people realize. And not that long ago.

@jeremywatson4860

Жыл бұрын

They tied one woman's baby to the back of a horse and drug him through cactus til he was torn apart. They were vicious

@krzysztofciuba271

Жыл бұрын

read Paul Raguenaeau,S.J. Shadows of Huronia,2003/1652 manuscript (in French): what did Iroquis to Hurons and Algonquins- 10 000 slaughtered but in what way! A few survived escaping to Quebec. Not only Indians but if one does not see Devil's hand in these societies he/she is a fool(in Bible: a lot of records of child's sacrifices). A romantic vision of past life societies propaganda is another lie,i.e. the lie -also from Satan (J8:44, Aristotle on privation principle)

@mico1664

Жыл бұрын

Definitely not losing sleep that they got murked. To be honest, they got exactly what they deserved, the death and destruction they visited on others were returned to them

@misaelfraga8196

Жыл бұрын

​@@mico1664 yes this tribe was exceptionally different in their brutality. Perhaps they knew this and used it as intimidation tactic, but they were sadistic not just for show.

Very well done! I am impressed.

@historyattheokcorral

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching! Lots more to come!

Great piece of history. I respect this tribe. 💯 Thank you 💛 Sir

See you read Wallace & Hoebel Lords of the southern plains! :~) I read it too besides Nye Carbine and Lance and T. Fehrenbach. Good channel nice to use in old Europe. My favorite quote is from the searchers about the riding of a Comanche 100 Miles farther on the same horse.

Great video. Thanks

A very interesting video on the Comanche. Truly amazing horsemen who were feared by those they faced. 💪🏼🙏🏻✨

Amazing story

Your fully on the way to 100000 subscribers, you have a passion for the history. You could do some CGI battle maps showing the tactics and famous battles similar to what Warhawk does with the Civil War, just my ten cents though. Keep it up though

😊😊😊 great narration!

Cool thanks for sharing big dog

Good as ever! The coming from the Comanche out of the Shoshoni is new for many interested people; God save Wallace Hoebel, Fehrenbach and Nye, 2 of 4 writers with german heritage. Best regards from Ludwig

They were ferocious as were the Apache.

Thank You plan Hope 2 Share

Excellent 👏👏👏

The Comanche were the mongols in the West.

Genuinely so ducking happy I watched this, love the channel. That being said, I think I saw about 30 pixels in the whole video.

Excellent video! thank you! i've heard the argument that the european conquest 'comancheria' was really only possible after the widespread availability of the revolver. given how quickly mounted short-bow weilding warriors could shoot off deadly accurate arrows...it's not surprising.

Love it mate

@historyattheokcorral

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Turn the volume up and turn the music off!

@historyattheokcorral

Жыл бұрын

We'll notify the editing department. 🙏🏻

@davidbenner2289

Жыл бұрын

@@historyattheokcorral thank you. Parts of me are wearing out but not eye sight and hearing.

@davidriddell5294

5 ай бұрын

Picking up what he's putting down, no worries.. Great series!!

So much for the myth of the noble savage!

@Quincy_Morris

4 ай бұрын

To be fair the Comanches were a special kind of evil. Many other tribes were indeed very friendly.

@deanodog3667

4 ай бұрын

@@Quincy_Morris yeah they nearly exterminated the apache , and they were warlike also !

@1victim27

2 ай бұрын

I think the myth of the noble savage from the Caribbean Natives, they welcomed christopher columbus warmy and even offered him many gifts.

@1victim27

2 ай бұрын

But, then again, the arawak in those islands also massacred the original people living there. Other native tribes, replacing them. lol.

It's a Bison. That aside, this channel is superb. Thank you for this.

This gatling gun battle tactic is fascinating! Can you point me in the direction the find more information on it? where did you find this?

Thank you for helping us visualize how North America evolved. I appreciate the words of the witnesses read with context; 😎

When are you continuing this series of videos?

Any chance you have a list of books or resources for further reading on all of these videos?? Thanks so much!

@HuangXingQing

Жыл бұрын

Empire of the Summer Moon is where I began.

Bravo

Where'd you get that background music? I love it

@historyattheokcorral

11 ай бұрын

It's free use its called "Waltz For Zachariah"

These nomadic 'centaurs' were almost a mirror image of the fearsome Huns of 4th and 6th century. No mercy unless it tendered profit . The Devil's Horsemen.

@summervibes2147

Жыл бұрын

That was only one of many tactics the natives would use drive Buffalo over cliffs or Buffalo jumps.

Where can one get the maps you are showing?I would have all of those if possible to frame and hang and admire.

Buffalo hunters at Adobe Walls got lucky. McKenzie was methodical and merciless

Up most Respect too~ The American Native Indians.

I swear hearing about Indian history. Is so beautiful and respectable. All these years of liveing in America I never appreciated the culture. Nor do the majority of Americans. Beautiful culture and a culture of warriors. Your average man of now wouldn't survive much back then. Wow

Any suggestions where I could get print copies of maps like the one with the different tribe locations?

Enjoyable but...volume of narration up and background music down would help a lot. Many of the images are blurred to the point of being indecipherable. And Bison and Buffalo are two different animals.

@historyattheokcorral

10 ай бұрын

Smart boi

You are either born there, or immigrated there. You are either native or immigrant. There is no other status. A slave woman from Gaul taken to Rome became a roman slave and all her children were romans, and so forth. The boy born in Texas, stolen by the Apache and then became a Comanche warrior was a native texan. The tribes did not care if he was native or immigrant or any other status in between that only exists in the woke mind of a 21st century humanist.

Comanches would burn the plains to run buffalo off cliffs.according to empire of the summer moon

Again long term necessity to adapt.

PLEASE do some on PNW natives or Alaskan natives! Ppl never remember us until the come to Seattle. Haha everyone always forgets how different we really are tribe by tribe

@historyattheokcorral

Жыл бұрын

We have an Alaskan history video up now! Much more to come on the PNW, such a fascinating history there!

@haleyguthrie3113

Жыл бұрын

@@historyattheokcorral I am watching your videos now. I'll go look. Haha I'm Quileute, the last of the Chimikuan band after Chief Seattle killed off our sister tribes. Long ago, not bitter at all haha. Quileute language is a VERY rare language and an oddity as to how it appeared and why we were so different. But were able to retain A LOT of history in comparison to other tribes because of Chief Se'ntl. He was soooo imposing and good with his words. Deep voice. Carried himself well. He marched his ass everywhere for majority of the tribes on the Salish Sea in the PNW. Demanded to separate tribes whom were enemies and give them their own land. He was amazing. The UW does very well with preservation and have many details but also look up Ravens Tales. The Raven and Eagles stories. The REAL "se'sxac" legends of our ppl. The Potlatch. It's neat.

@WiseOwl_1408

Жыл бұрын

Many people do think of natives as one people. Vastly different culture tribe to tribe.

I enjoy your video very much. When we speak of Indians on the western plains it is mostly the Sioux and Cheyenne. For some reason the Comanche do not get the PR that they deserve.

@karlplummer7350

Жыл бұрын

They were excellent horsemen, that’s about it when comes to PR. Cruel, insane vultures etc etc. I’ve read too much on them and nothing is ever good.

@WiseOwl_1408

Жыл бұрын

They used to be but it's all negative so you can't talk about it in polite company

@Linduine

Жыл бұрын

Let's be real here, they get more PR than the other two nations you mentioned. Especially in the last years.

@Quincy_Morris

4 ай бұрын

Modern culture doesn’t like talking about the Comanches because modern audiences would assume racist stereotypes were being promoted as they could not believe anyone could be that evil.

What are the sources for the history of the tribes so early on?

There's no complaints like that anymore about them at all in the 21st century. Every ethnic group has done something uncalled for.

live long!

@historyattheokcorral

Жыл бұрын

And prosper 🖖

The truth about what made the Comanche so cruel and brutal is known and kept in memory of a select few. Lost in time as there is always 2 sides to every story and only one side is told as the truth and fact ,the side that makes them comfortable knowing the real truth will never be told🤔

I believe the Comanche controlled as far south as Mexico City. Good video!

@summervibes2147

Жыл бұрын

They did not but they raided as far south as roughly 100 miles north of Mexico city (the province of Jalisco) and they had camps in the mountain valleys in northern Mexico and could raid the Mexican North at will but to say that they controlled area much further south than maybe 100 miles south of the Rio grande would be false.

@Quincy_Morris

4 ай бұрын

What was and was not controlled and by who was very grey at that time given the low population density of all factions.

Anything on the Sere from Baja?

It is amazing that they evolved in to society similar to eurasian nomads, sort of late for horse bows though...

Odie B Faulk…….amazing historian of the American West.

They were great horseman, but they where a short squatty tribe, lol, some still are... Anyway, part of they're success, was they didn't stop to eat, they would reach back, slice a strip off the running horses rear, and eat it raw while still moving. That is wild!!

What is the ultimate battle you refer to at the end?

Imagine waking up in the morning back then and asking yourself, “Is today the day I get killed by a Comanche?”

They were great at one time but where are they now?

❤

It seems that the Comanche had a lot of similarities to the Vikings!

The very first horses evolved on the North American grasslands over 55 million years ago.

The peyote ceremony was with the Comanche.

@summervibes2147

Жыл бұрын

That was a southwestern Indian thing with the Apaches etc.

40 thousand serial killers

funny that they would be remembered by the name their enemies gave them

@imout671

Жыл бұрын

Yankee doodle dandy was given to the colonials by their British enemies. Yankees stuck.

Ask Bat Masterson or Billy Dixon

You should try running some of the open source historical photography through an AI upscaler. Should give you both a higher resolution and more historically accurate image that would go better with your historically accurate style. Upscalers are pretty good so you could probably bring some of those old 512 images up to 1K or even more without much distortion. Just make sure you use face-trained one for face and landscape trained for landscape. No 1 size fits all with upscalers.

These pictures are a little bit lego but this is still good product

So whats name of the battle ?

15 second commercials wtf

your videos are very quiet even when I turn on sound to 100% its like whispering.

the base questio is who was guest and who a landlord . then????

... and just like they were conquerors. They were also conquered. That's the history of the world. It's not necessarily dark or bleak. It's the way humans survived and expanded their culture & influence. If the Comanches would've had the opportunity they would've colonized the entire planet.

@Quincy_Morris

4 ай бұрын

And do you think they would have abolished slavery, given women the right to vote, given land to those they conquered and brought on a century of peace in North America if they had?

Song please?

Numidian Calvary...

the mongols would have loved them

@1victim27

2 ай бұрын

Those are their ancestors lmao

100% Crystal Hill Comanche!✌️🌞

@donaldallen1276

Жыл бұрын

@@howardj602 I did see some information about Asian bloodline in American Indian people. I would like to do a test and see the results vs the word of my family and share it with them 🌞

@donaldallen1276

Жыл бұрын

@@howardj602 Sorry but I honestly can't say 100% and after a talk with family members, duh my last name Allen is english and I should have known this but I was a bit proud of my ancient relatives and lost in the moment after first watching this, sorry 🌞

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The Northern tribes DID fight on horseback all the time. The Santee Sioux was the one tribe that used the horse like the cavalry did riding it to battle than dismounting. All our handheld weapons had longer shafts to be used off horseback. Comanche were known for their ability to shoot fast as they rode. Other tribes could shoot as fast as them like the Hidatsa and Mandan indians. Edit- so the Lakota were regarded as the best horsemen in the world by Crooke who fought both the southern and northern tribes. The Lakota could also hang off the side of their horse and shoot over the horses neck. There is a story at the Wagon Box fight where 2 Lakota at full gallop went among the dead and wounded and picked up wounded men without stopping.

Interesting, I would have thought any horses would be passed on to the sons, not slaughtered, to keep the wealth in the family. Secondly, if they were riding around in a circle shooting arrows, I would have thought that provided a rather large target for the defenders. A galloping horse collapsing on top of one would surely have inflicted broken bones, ribs; arms; legs; broken neck or back even, putting the rider out of the attack.

@Baseballnfj

Жыл бұрын

No you do the stupidest possible thing and kill them all duh

@Daylon91

Жыл бұрын

If you're constantly shooting and riding in a circle that is both a form of offense and defense as your whole group is pinning down the defenders while they get closer. Any man on a horse throughout history is a bigger target but the horses speed is what makes it hard to hit along with the rider