This makes so much sense. I finally understand the TRUE function "dichotomies". Its not Se vs Si but Se vs Ne - ways to observe the outer world And Si vs Ni - ways to observe thoughts Its not Te vs Ti but Te vs Fe - type of external info you value primarily And Ti vs Fi - where you base your inner values on and how you justify decisions This is is glossed over by almost all typology sites and articles about cognitive functions. Its never stated this clear. This is porbably something alot of you already knew for a long time, but it only just landed for me now, explaining a LOT of confusion and vagueities on my part 😅 And now I can finally add this knowledge in a framework I understand and makes sense to me, I can continue on in my typing journey, which is especially hard as my ASD supressed my natural Fe for a long time.

One of the most unbiased explanation of all the functions. Always noticed many people over explain Ni /Fi / Ne and manage to give them more importance than Fe/ Si/ Se. All cognitive functions are important and equal. We use them all in varying degrees.

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly this :)

I could sit for hours hearing you talking... it amazes me the way you talk about the theory 🤩 Great video, as always 😊

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! :)

You gave the best definition I've seen yet of the difference between Se and Ne. How they are both looking at the same external world but the lens of Ne is far more broad, losing site of the details. While Se seeks the details and is better at following the movements of concrete objects. Another thing you could mention when you talk about the cognitive axis is Se is attached to Ni and is dynamic. While Ne is attached to Si and is static. Using tennis as an example, Se would focus on the movement of an individual tennis ball in a match to help Ni determine how the ball will be hit back (as Ni visualizes one's own future actions based on present (Se) circumstances.) While Ne, using Si, would consult mental images of many tennis balls seen over time to create an abstract image of what a typical tennis ball looks like.

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

I love this! Will be exploring the axial relationships more later in the series but I love where you are going here! Also, cheers :)

@ninawillow2429

3 жыл бұрын

🤔 The discription of visualization is exactly what I do, but Si is strong too. I have to accept that I dip into other functions. I sit smack in the middle of Si and Ni.

@jaredvaughan1665

3 жыл бұрын

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory Thanks. Also when you do the cognitive axis video please describe how Ne-Si usage differs from Si-Ne usage. So as an INTP I work best using Ne that goes to my Si. Yet an ESTJ works best using Si parent first followed by Si child (Beebe terminology.) I'd like to better know how the order of usage of the cognitive axis affects output. And also the effects of a delayed cognitive axis. So as an INTP Si immediately follows Ne. But for an ENTP Si only comes after Ti-Fe in a tricky down effect. My theory (using the Socionics 4D model) tells me ENTPs should seek novelty (Ne) 4 times as much as familiarity (Si). But an INTP should only seek novelty (Ne) 1.5 times as much as familiarity (Si.) While an ISTJ should seek familiar repetitive tasks (Si) 4 times and much as seeking novelty (Ne.) Yet more challenging repetitive tasks, like accounting, due to a powerful Si. Not sure if you follow that. I will say as an INTP I was an international survey pilot for about a year yet the requirement to adapt to constant changing environments was too much. Yet the ESTPs and ENTPs and ENFPs and ESFPs thrived in that ever changing environment. So I ended up flying for a regional airline for 4 years that had a good mixture of variety (Ne) with familiarity (Si.) But being an insurance broker or accountant would be too repetitive and challenging as my Si memory to details is not that strong.

@sashalevine4865

3 жыл бұрын

Jared, I agree with most of this, except I understood CPT's description to say that NE picks up on movement better. kzread.info/dash/bejne/goWopLevd66bc5M.html I bring this up bc it may have an impact on the tennis example. Unless I misunderstood something?? :)

@jaredvaughan1665

3 жыл бұрын

@@sashalevine4865 Almost all tennis players are ISTPs, and nearly all basketball and football players Se users. Se users are much more conscious of movements of the physical environment than Ne users. An ESTP especially. Because Se users can keep their eyes on the ball and so are more focused on the individual physical environment. Whereas Ne users are constantly taking snapshots of the entire physical environment to send to their Si longterm memory. So in that sense their vision is more broad because it's taking snap shots of numerous aspects of the environment. But as an INTP my Se is my worst cognitive function according to Socionics. As my 7th function Beebe calls it my trickster function (because INTPs think they are good at it, which is why I struggled way more than I thought I would as a regional airline pilot and didn't get past flying a single engine airplane.) As an INTP I often run into things and don't notice changes in my physical environment very well at all. But this changes when I'm traveling and seeing things for the first time. And when I travel, I'm like INTP Charles Darwin when he traveled the world, looking for patterns. I'll scan the people I see at airports. Compare the fauna, etc. So in this sense as an Ne user my vision is broader than an Se user who likely locks his or her vision into getting from point A to B when traveling. And seeing people as individuals without trying to categorize them or compare them to past people and events. But if there is a bunch of smoke at the airport as an INTP with Se trickster I'll probably be the last person to notice it as I'd likely be too busy pattern recognizing things, or dazed in a Ti-Si loop.

Having an extensive experience on both Ti and Te in work, i have some additional categories: Ti - structural - the fabric of complex logical order, the fundamental rules and principles that an object strictly operates. Good example is discrete structures, tree traversals, etc. Also a self correcting system that compares itself against itself for the sake of logical consistency. Organizes one thing at a given moment. Determines what an object can do and cannot do. Te - functional - the apparent logical processes of how something operates. The dynamic interaction of objects and the comparison of objects against other objects that ensures competence and better quality. Creates standards and guidelines for maximum effectiveness, ensuring high quality and productivity. Te optimizes processes, enhance performance and organizes objects dynamically. They can sometimes overlap, but their striking difference is Ti's goal is structural consistency while Te is functional performance. Awesome video. Can't wait for the functional axes. Keep it up :)

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

I like it! And, thank you :)

@dumdum8538

3 жыл бұрын

So basically, Ti is how an object works by itself, and Te is how an object with its parameters works in conjunction with other objects and their parameters? Or am I still missing something?

@arcano9268

3 жыл бұрын

@@dumdum8538 partly yes, using Jung's idea of introversion as narrowness/resistance and extroversion as wideness/adaptability, Ti is less dependent on the situation, more static, because it focuses on what remains true regardless of the situation and focuses on the singular/narrow principle that applies to everything else. Te understands that what applies here may not apply there, what works here may not work there, therefore being more dynamic and adaptable to the situation just as how jung defined extroverts.

@Diaming787

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. Ti and Te seem to overlap more for IxTJ's and ExTP's due to their strong inner critic 6th function. Example: I naturally Te but there are times the Ti gets me hard, making me feel overlogical to one thing, essentially getting "stuck" in the Te process.

Alleged ENTP here. One of my friends who’s really into this stuff diagnosed me and I essentially laughed it off. The more I look into it, watch these videos, and pick which one I most relate to- I realized they were right. They saw me in a way I struggle to see myself honestly.

@savannahsingleton3359

Ай бұрын

I know this is an old comment, but your description of how you felt about it all as an ENTP describes what it's like to be FI blind perfectly. It's a very ExTP Fi blind experience to struggle to be in tune with your own subjective sense of self

Whold it bee correct to say that N is more holistic and S more analytical. N looking at how things relate and fit together while S focuses on details and picking thing apart to understand the various parts and components.

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly :)

Harry, your type is: J-E-D-I :P Thank you for helping all of us build a more solid foundation of CPT knowledge! I use CPT components on a consistent basis when practicing typology! As always, THANK YOU, Harry ^_^

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you my friend! Judging-Extraverted-Decisive-Introspective - first words that popped into my head, not sure about that second part.. I'm excited by your applications of CPT btw!

@tofusamurai22

3 жыл бұрын

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory nice adaptation with the letters... the intuition is strong in this one! XD Yeah, thanks again-- CPT is very helpful at clarifying much of the MBTI "murkiness" :)

@WackadoodleMalarkey

3 жыл бұрын

Juxtaposing, Enriching, Delineating, Iconoclasting!

@danieldykstra4100

7 ай бұрын

Just Extremely Damn Intelligent?

Hands down the best explanation I've seen on the cognitive functions so far. Not perpetuating those meaningless phrases that are great at a first glance, but say absolutely nothing when you're trying to really understand. There's a saying that if you want to know if you've learned something, try explaining it to someone who doesn't know that something. The other day I got to try that. Not only that, but had to switch to my mother tongue too. I've only seen stuff about this in English. This "cheat sheet" came in really handy, because even though I've been into this topic for the last couple of years, my mind totally blanked having to explain this in simple, easy to understand terms and it felt like I knew nothing at all. So, thanks I'll be coming back to this one. Cheers.

Ive been going down the CPT rabbit hole for 3 years now...This is the first time I find an explanation for the functions that aren't bias. Thanks for being objective as possible...So many arrogant theorists out there spewing bullshit theories(buncha wannabes that don't realise there is no 'best/worst' type)...and its very unhelpful for learning sake...internet, am I right...

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this comment!

Incredible. This explanation and video seems perfect because it is accurate, concise, yet also broad enough and thorough. Thank you!

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Thank YOU!

I love how you pause for a moment after you speak it helps a lot to take in what you just said and understand the topic better keep up the good work 💪

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

Thank you, now I understand why I tend to behave decisively even though as an INFP I'm typed as being indecisive. FYI: I decisively change my mind, constantly, as I feel out the decision I previously made and realize I'm not comfortable with it. As I've gotten older I've realized I need to slow down and feel things out. Maybe I'm this way because my role model growing up, my dad, is an ENFP.

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, the stereotypes and natural predispositions only go so far - we are all individuals!

Adding to your metaphor for the perceiving functions, you could add ZOOM (in for sensing, out for intuition).

@cazbee6126

3 жыл бұрын

I'd love the camera metaphor to be continued for the deciding functions (as someone for whom codec means nothing, so it slows my understanding). Not sure how though. (& I know you'll be attached to your terminology, even though it will limit your audience.)

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

I LOVE the zoom idea! I can definitely work with the camera metaphor to explain the rationality process :)

@cazbee6126

3 жыл бұрын

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory 🥳 that is 🤩 awesome!

@chandreyee_c

3 жыл бұрын

Great idea! That would act as an amazing visual aid.

Hands down the BEST cognitive functions explanation I've found on KZread and on the internet....and I have been on the MBTI track for almost a decade. Woah!!!! So glad I found your channel. Thank you!!!

11:00 yo this guy actually blinks

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Impossible, must have been a glitch.

Accurate, concise, efficient, and informationally dense presentation.

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

I appreciate your efforts into making this content for the sake of helping other people... Hope channels like you gain more recognition in order for people to better understand the cognitive functions and mbti in general.

This really helps a lot more than the other videos I've tried watching so far. You give a very helpful view and detailed explanation of the functions, and its very beginner friendly. I feel like I can follow along a lot more to this than to others. So thank you, coming from an INFP.

I like how you frame the extroverted judging functions as primarily concerned with attaining a desired result. Both Te and Fe are concerned with efficiency and accomplishing goals that are objectively measurable. I think it’s easier for Fe types to think along Te terms than Fi terms. And the same goes for Ti and Fi.

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely in the convergent position. In the divergent position they can be more oriented towards preserving an existing one. But, yes, there can often be much more of a goal element with these functions as they are concerned with external order. Cheers :)

@PanzonVilla

3 жыл бұрын

Cognitive Personality Theory not sure what you mean by “convergent” and “divergent”. Do you have a video explaining that?

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

@@PanzonVilla Check out the older videos in my CPT Principals playlist as one port of call. In short: Convergence - active: creative; zone of control and responsibility. Divergent - passive; authoritative; static, observation>action. Ni-Ti are an INFJ's convergent functions, whereas Se-Fe are divergent :)

@PanzonVilla

3 жыл бұрын

Cognitive Personality Theory I’ll check that out. Thanks 🙏

You are so precious for MBTI Community. Many thanks for your contributions!

Every time I rewatch this video I understand something new.

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

It's definitely a dense video!

This is wonderfully explained. Never has something so complex been presented to me so simply

I agree Te is often tied into decorating more than Fe, which deals more with having a clean house, while Te = impressive house. Fe users don't mind filling a house full of yard sale items, as long as there isn't a lot of clutter and everything is neat. While Fi-Te users often have nice furniture full of clutter. Unless someone important comes over where clutter would affect their Te status.

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

For sure!

This is one of the most comprehensible reviews on this subject. Thank you sincerely.

I've been trying to learn the functions off and on for some years now and I have to say: this really helped me understand the functions more than any other resource. Thank you!

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers, Adrian - my pleasure!

Hey Harry! Great breakdown of the functions. 🙂Exceptionally high-quality videos and editing is superb too. You do a good job of explaining the complex theory in a fun and entertaining way. Thank you for this!

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Joyce, that means a lot! :)

These are really good definitions. I like how you explained each function as well as allowing a “space” to exist between functions, which explains why sometimes it’s so hard to differentiate between functions. Good video! 👍

I'm starting to watch your videos and I'm so impressed by the way you express it. It's concrete, precise, but also broad and praiseworthy. I can really understand what you say while learning and trying to know what type I am. Thank you so much!

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

That's really cool to hear - thank you!

Brother, amazing. Before this I had very vague ideas of what Ni/Si might mean, and you just snapped into place so many things. Thank you.

Amazing! The definitions were so relatable the expansion of the definition of Te to the aesthetic, not only broadened my view of Te but I realized I use it a lot more than I thought. Great video!

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Some use Te differently to others, but it's always there! Thank you :)

This is extremely well said. Looking forward on sharing more of this series.

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

Your description of Ni explains why I find the Personality Hacker label of "Perspectives" so relatable.

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Cool :)

This video=just what the doctor ordered. Great content as always. I find your definitions very fitting, and I enjoy the broad way you explain things. It leaves room for the human variables which fortunately or unfortunately we can't escape. I am so looking forward to the rest of the videos in this series.

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Will be filming the next episode within the next few weeks :)

It's amazing to me how clearly you can articulate such abstract concepts. Bravo!

I think your brilliant! I love how you really break everything down:)

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

15:38 The Summary Cheatsheet™🏁

Thank you, this has really cleared up my understanding of Te and Si, as well as the ti-fi relationship in terms of identity

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

I'm happy to hear this my friend!

This is very useful! I wish I had found this video first before watching other videos about personality.

Great vids to explain each functions... Keep it up sir

Watching you is like going into my NF world for a blissful moment.

Thank you for your work!

Nicely done! I even jotted down a few key points that I found helpful.( on paper, how archaic)🙂 I also took note of your deliberate pausing, as some have said the pace was a little fast for them. You are on point as usual! Kudos!

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! Step by step I'm learning to sloooow down :) On paper - there is something about the old fashioned way! Cheers :)

@notthatvashti8127

3 жыл бұрын

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory 🙏

Thank you I learned so much from your videos 🙏🏽

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for commenting :)

Absolutely love your perspective on this, and your voice is so soothing I can hardly help but listen. There is the TINIEST typo in the description where “(Ti)” is written as “(T)i”. Being and ENTP with OCD this stood out to me, chalk it up as 4th spot Si or whatever you may but I just wanna help!

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, that means a lot! :) Ah hah! Thank you for bringing this to my attention :D

This video helped me a lot! Thank you 😊

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

Thank you for sharing your knowledge with all human beings ~~

Thanks for the time stamps 🙂

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome :)

Video assimilated 100% ✔📝 You're so right to say that is like a scale or a line space that we can navigate between the cognitives fonctions!! For real, I see myself in all the portions of the cognitive fonctions and can relate with my past experiences that all fonctions in a moment and time help to acheive or advance in my life. Thanks for the 2e video 😅 ✌

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Well said!

Great video!

Another excellent video!

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Okay this is a framework I can use. Wow. Thank you.

8:41 I got the image of someone working with an equalizer or a sound production machine with all the vertically sliding buttons and dials...where you change a value, it produces this, or by adding that, it changes or affects another property of the sound. Different resonances, harmonies, melodies, time and structure mixing in seamless fluidity within the framework of the type.

The summary is very helpful thanks :)

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Very interesting! I'm so used to seeing Te labeled as "results, rules, and efficiency", and somehow only related to the business world and executives-- but for it to include something like design is great! With design you really are assessing how the parts (colors, elements, furniture, etc) relate to one another, and can be worked together to create something cohesive. Might a concrete example of Te (with Ne) be an ENFP redesigning someone's home? They walk in to the house, taking a broad overview of the inside. They analyze and come up with a design encompassing many elements and tasks that need to be done that would enhance the living area, create more space (rearrange furniture), tp make it look bigger or brighter --- and they would to an extent, be driven by their personal Fi sense of aesthetics?

@writerducky2589

2 жыл бұрын

I like this view on it. A lady I know is considered the go to person for aesthetic sense in our social group. Most of the time a great sense of aesthetics seems to be contributed to Se, but I can't for the life of me imagine that lady as a high Se user. She also has a good mechanical aptitude and that confident Te vibe. On that note, as 4th slot Te-user it would explain why my own sense of aesthetics has only now started to emerge through a growing awareness and conscious interest due to feedback from others.

I had stated in past comments that I was still on only 2-3 types in my research. I was kind of stuck because there were gaps I couldn't see and also not spending enough time researching types. The gaps were the opposites: exe. Ni-Si and Fi-Ti. I understood exe. Fe-Ti, Ni-Fe, and a little about Ti-Te, but something was missing in the interplay between the functions. This has shed some light on what was somewhat holding me up. CPT clears things and brings them together in a nice and balanced way. I will be ordering your books. Thanks!

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I hope they are informative :)

Again. I love these. I’m still struggling to see myself in Se vs Si and Fe vs Fi and then rest that follows - Ne vs Ni is the easiest to dismiss as being in the top functions, at the very least. the thing is, I’m highly self aware of my actions but I don’t actually ever think about why I think/see/focus a certain way and if I try to do it too much like this, I can just imagine myself aligning with whatever makes sense the most without actually being able to proof it. But I’ll keep searching, as this is still quite rewarding nonetheless.

extroversion is outside "the self" & introversion is inside "the self". sensing is about the singular data points. & intuition is about the pattern made out of a number of such discrete data points. (Correct me if I am getting anything wrong above.) plus I didn't get the exact difference between the thinking & the feeling function. I mean everyone kinda understands it anyways, but I need a clear definitive distinction between these 2 functions.

LOL long pause after saying time stamps 😉 I see I see! So thorough!!!

These definitions make sense to me. The typical definitions floating around the web always feel like false dichotomies to me.

I love you and your channel, and im not joking

You are great! Take care of yourself!!!!

Awesome video

I've just learned a terrible truth. I think Chancellor Murrell is a Sith Lord.

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Impossible. Perhaps the archives are incomplete.

Hello again. Thank you for bringing to me the level of clarity nobody else out there is putting out. I have a question which I feel bad asking in public and you may not answer due to politeness in the comments section. So I guess I’ll be vague. Do you think there are a few KZreadrs putting out INFJ videos, who are clearly more likely INFPs or something else, who may be leading to the mess of confused INFx’s out there? Have a wonderful day. Your channel rocks 💖

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I will vaguely answer 'yes', and go further to say one or two may be doing so knowingingly.

@orchidsrising7910

3 жыл бұрын

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory Whoa, that’s messed up.

I see the difference between my Se self (divergent auxiliary) and my Ne--dominant mom whenever we watch movies. She's always trying to predict ahead. She's read tons of books, so she's pretty good at tracking plot tropes and predicting them. Meanwhile I'm frustrated at her questions because I missed a line or other detail lol

A good way to figure out which similar function you use is to think, 'which servers the other?'. i.e. if you're trying to figure out si vs ni, te vs fe, ne vs se, ti vs fi

What I understand and write on my notebook: Ti - Analyzing and arranging internal individual logics into orders (values oriented) Te - Analyzing and arranging external collective logics into orders (actions oriented) Fi - Analyzing and arranging internal individual feelings into orders (values oriented) Fe - Analyzing and arranging external collective feelings into orders (actions oriented) Ni - Perceiving and connecting a broad portion of internal realities (vague and abstract) Ne - Perceiving and connecting a broad portion of external realities (vague and abstract) Si - Perceiving and focusing on a small portion of internal realities (detailed and concrete) Se - Perceiving and focusing on a small portion of external realities (detailed and concrete)

Bingo! Just the overview I needed. Thank you. Been simmering in this stuff long enough to have made plenty of erroneous leaps. This video helped. So does the cheat sheet with my pals names jotted down next to their types on a printout of one of the colorful function stack images out there. So fun and interesting.

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Cheat cheats all the way!

Man, I'm scared of you. Those questions about "Who am I going to be in 5 years" or "Why are other people's values different from mine" ... dude, that shit hit me so fucking hard. Every morning and every night, questions like those come to mind. You've read my mind

@ricardomunoz3455

3 жыл бұрын

I think i'm crazy or something. Are those normal questions?

I felt so emotional hearing the Fi description, I don’t even know why. I guess there’s a new IxFP here lol

Foinally. I can't purchase your book yet so this is great help.

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear the video helped :)

Is there a personality type that cannot grasp these concepts? I think I need multiple concrete examples

Do you have this all written out online somewhere? It's a lot to take on over video.

Have you by any chance looked at the theory over at cognitivetype? I'm a fan of their function description such as Si/Ni being 'worldview' functions perceiving the tangible(what is) or abstract (what could be). Its always fun to compare and contrast!

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely a fan of compare/contrast! Ah yes the vultology system - very interesting stuff. I do like these two definitions! Si as the concrete internalisation and Ni as the abstract internalisation has a similar perspective :)

@AmyMarie1992

3 жыл бұрын

It is an interesting comparison! I think it's a little bit odd that I'm slightly different Fi-dominant types in each of the two systems!

What exactly do you mean by the “internal world” when talking about ni? Because si refers to experiences, tangible details stored within the brain, known to work. What does ni look at? Which things in the brain does it consider? Trends and conclusions relying upon te and se observed data?

Nice video. Maybe you could do a video on someone with a dominant introverted stack acting like an extrovert, and vic verse with the extrovert.How to tell them apart since you said in your book about how behavior does not always line if their an introvert or extrovert.By the way like your explanation on extroverted thinking.

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Yess I love this idea! And, thank you!

Could you please make a video about the differences between intp and intj? Both types are very interesting and similar even though they have different cognitive functions.

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely!

Is it possible to use your Ne and Ti the same amount because It’s not easy for me to define which of these I use even more dominant?

Healthy Fe = helping, which may trump harmony if helping means stating unpleasant truths to burn off dross in others.

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

For sure, I often finding convergent Fe used for such reasons :)

Thanks A LOT, but I have a question: is benig an Si user must be conditioned with a long term memory? please if someone knows help me

I think introversion is not about the *internal* world in a sense of one's internal imaginations, etc. Visual imagination is still within the scope of sensation. That "internal" processes are related to the combination of attention and cognitive functions, but I'll argue this doesn't need to necessarily be attributed to the "internal", rather it's the capacity of one's consciousness itself, which may be internal or external, or perhaps both at once. Introversion is oriented to the internal reality--the archetypes and instincts perhaps released by your genetic clock, and this doesn't exclude the processes that are happening within an introverted sensation type. The peculiarity with the introverted sensor, however, is that it processes the archetypes via the sensing function. What sensing function does is to create a physical representation of the archetypes, be it visual or other kinds, where an introverted intuitive will explore the archetypes via the intuitive function, which provides some background for the internal environment created by introverted sensation. This works much like how extraverted intuition data provides a background for extraverted sensation data--things that are not apparent to the sense organs immediately, but is instinctively known to be there in that moment. For example things that are behind your back--you don't see what's behind you, yet you can often intuitively tell what should be there. And much like how extraverted sensation perceives the external world (sight, sound, etc), so does introverted intuition perceives the internal world of archetypes--both perveive the respective content directly, compared to extraverted intuition and introverted sensation who mix-matched the connection between both. This is why the topic can get convoluted quickly, because everything is connected to each other. Consciousness is inherently tied to the sensing and thinking function, which are more concrete/extraverted by its nature, while the unconsciousness, to intuition and feeling function, which are abstract/introverted in nature. This is why when Jung was referring to the "unconscious", he meant different things at different times. At one time it's to emphasize the whole subjective realm of archetypes which introverts are motivated by, at another time to emphasize their interaction with the consciousness--which mainly is the domain of Ni, but also Si. What he didn't consider though, that even the external reality one doesn't currently perceives, I'll also argue could be viewed as a section of the unconscious itself albeit external, one that stays unconscious until it's directly perceived by extraverted sensation, or inferred by extraverted intuition. I had also interpreted introversion as being related to an "internal world" in the sense that you mean here, but the above perspective explains so many else in my opinion.

I've always been typed and really resonated with the INFJ type but I'm still hesitant to type myself definitely, I'd much rather learn and focus about the functions before coming to any conclusion.

“Don’t dive down the rabbit hole” hahaha from an Infj I already know cuz I am one lol

I'm interested in how the cognitive functions relate to machine learning. It seems that perceiving relates to data inputs and judging relates to algorithmic processing of data. Do you think this analogy can be deeper? Do different kinds of data relate to different perceiving functions? Do different kinds of algorithms relate to different judging functions?

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I do think this could apply to A.I! As you say, the lens controls the data input and the codec the processing - for as long as an algorithm is both extraverted and introverted, I think it could very well be half-typed> Limbic processing would be a next step though.

@sstoikov

3 жыл бұрын

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory so if we take algorithms like Facebook/Google, their extroverted sensing would be data on all the thing users have liked or searched. The introverted thinking part of the algorithm could be the tools it gives its advertisers to target audiences. Could that be considered Limbic processing?

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

@@sstoikov Limbic would the ability to self program, beyond self-optimisation; I can't think of a way current algorithms could imitate the role Feeling plays within us.

How does an Fe hero behaves differently to an Se hero. I cant tell them apart How do we know when Se is the second function and when Fe is second.

Hey...great video! Very informative! I am curious.... The difference in the manifestation of a function when a person leads with a codec /lens? .... So,if a person leads with a lens function- are they going to perceive it first and then judge it? But then there's nothing to judge without perceiving in people who lead with a codec function-😅😅 so, then, I thought , maybe they have a broader perception of the world.... But that doesn't fit either.... I hope you understand my question...and hope you can give me an answer.... Once again, if I wasn't clear.... How does a type's manifestation differs when the dominant/hero function is the codec/lens?

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

The functions occur simultaneously, but the dominant acts as doorway, and therefore instills the emphasis. Lens dominance prioritises experiential novelty :)

Just love your insight and was curious about something I read on ENFJs taking on emotions(maybe even ideas) of others and believing it to be their very own. If this is possible, why does it happen, and why can’t they distinguish between their own feelings/beliefs from someone else’s? Could this be an interesting topic for a video? Truly curious.

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! ENFJs can indeed embody the values and feelings of their community and culture so, generally, this is a danger point. However, I would say these are still their own feelings, just born of a more collectivist identity :)

@avu_metalsmith

3 жыл бұрын

Cognitive Personality Theory I really appreciate you taking the time in answering/responding to mine, as well many other’s comments.

Okay, Harry, now I'm gonna sound pretty crazy but, I'm an ENTP by the way(dunno if the info will help) but why I feel so much better using the perceiving functions and have such a hard time with the judging functions? It's like I can properly absorb information with acting on it or engaging with it on the go. Like, or I make correlations with it in the go or it just fit an idea I already had, or I engage with it directly without much thought or relate to my values and how I was raised. But I feel I have a hard time with all the rest. I can't rest with new information, you know? I have ADD so maybe that's that. But I always feel my Ti lacking soooo much. Fe is barely there at all.

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I liked your descriptions of the cognitive functions but I have a question: If I imagine a castle without recalling a specific one I've seen would I be using Si or Ni? Because even if it's not really a concrete memory, if I visualize it it's still a recollection of various castles I've seen in the past. And if it's not, what would be the difference between Ni and Si visualizing something or is visualisation automatically Si (because technically I would have to rely on my memories in order to be able to visualize it)? Or does it become Ni if I picture a castle in order to create a vision of what I want a future castle to look like (so it depends on the reason why I'm visualizing it)?

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

Ni will visualise a general 'sense impression' of a castle - as soon as you start narrowing in on details you're using Si :)

@AmyMarie1992

3 жыл бұрын

Or maybe sensory details could be less defined if you took in something from the outer world as a sense impression to begin with :)

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

@@AmyMarie1992 Also true!

@unme1834

3 жыл бұрын

Okay, thanks for the clarification :)

15:42 Intuitive types start here

What is the difference between the internal and external world?

Have you heard of a KZreadr named Renaud Contini? He’s a fellow INFJ like you, and I was thinking the other day how cool it would be for the two of you to talk to one another given how you both talk about and offer different perspectives to the table of MBTI! I’m not sure what topic you could talk about, but I think it would be very interesting to see both of you dive deep into discussion about MBTI or something similar :)

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

I'm always down for a good collab! :)

i’ve got a question. when it comes to “daydreaming”, i experience 2 general types: one in which i’m playing out scenarios of what could happen in the near future or what is happening elsewhere in the present, and then another is almost purely fictional that i tend to exercise, that way the stories i write can be written more real and tangible in a way. are there certain functions that these habits fall under? because i do both frequently enough to know this contributes a great deal to my thinking

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

The first sounds like an Ne-Si axis, and the other sounds more Ni :)

@user-el6my6vi7p

3 жыл бұрын

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory thank you! i’ve enjoyed so many of your videos so far, by the way. nice work 👍

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I need clarity on Ne and Ni. I understand that both of those functions capture broad picture which misses out on details and so they have to figure out a way to fill it. Can you give me examples to understand the following question: 1) how does N operate differently with external and internal? 2) how does it fill gaps differently in external and internal By example, I mean that of how someone uses these functions. I’m an ESTJ if that helps.

can someone explain Ni and Ne to me (an esfp) as if i was 5 yo?

So like, what would the difference then be between an INFP appreciating beauty and an ISFP appreciating beauty? You say plethoric or detailed, but you never really give concrete examples. Let’s say an INFP and an ISFP looked at a beautiful landscape in nature, what would the difference be in their perception?

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

True, concrete examples would be handy. ISFP - Se hones in on a detail which is related to in a broad manner (Fi-Ni). Present. INFP - Ne perceives whole picture, which is related to in a specific Fi-Si manner. Predictive. ISFP has an intense concrete experience, whereas the INFP might be employing Si (a memory for example) to make the experience feel more concrete.

@Anonymei

3 жыл бұрын

Cognitive Personality Theory So would an ISFP have worse recall ability of what the details they perceived where? Since they have Ni, not Si?

@CognitivePersonalityTheory

3 жыл бұрын

@@Anonymei Recall will tend to be hazier with the ISFP, though with Si in authority position they may feel more compulsion towards reflection all the same.

@anival9576

3 жыл бұрын

My sister is an ISFP, and from experience, I can tell you that she'll be trying to name all the plants she sees and evaluating the job the gardener did. I don't have an INFP example to compare it with. 😅 As an INFJ, I prefer to passively experience the essence of the landscape. I very much enjoy the beauty, but do not want to have to analyze it or process it consciously.

Ok, what logicaly follows is that S and N are cognitive functions and F a T are value orientation which are culturaly loaded.