The CIA Tried To Recruit Me For A Job In Thailand (Joe Cumming's Life Story)
I interview Joe Cummings, an American who first came to Thailand in 1977. Joe is known as the travel guru of Thailand and South East Asia after writing Thailand's first Lonely Planet guidebook as well as many other books on SE Asia. In this interview Joe is going to tell us about a near death experience he had in a fisherman's boat off the coast of Java, his relationship with Mick Jagger from The Rolling Stones, how Joe wrote Thailand's first Lonely Planet guidebook as well as how the CIA tried to recruit him when he was studying Thai in America.
#thairishtimes #interview #lifeinthailand
timestamps
00:00 - Why I Came To Thailand
08:42 - Writing Thailand's First Lonely Planet Guidebook
13:50 - Near Death Experience
21:13 - What Inspired You To become a writer?
23:34 - Relationship with Mick Jagger
30:12 - Working with Anthony Bourdain
31:40 - CIA Recruitment
40:33 - The CIA In Bangkok
42:42 - My Life In Thailand
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As a Peace Corps volunteer in Thailand in the late 70s, I knew of Joe as a legend. Never met him, but many of my fellow volunteers calimed his acquaintance and friendship. And we all had his LP guide to Thialand in our hip pockets as we spent our time off exploring the kingdom. Later, when our commitment was done and we were free to wonder SE Asia, me and the missus used LP and Joe's contributions to the series to guide us as we plied the "Hippie Trail" from Katmandu to Bali. Glad to see he's still active on the expact scene, and upon our relocation to Thailand this November, we will become Midnight Ramblers groupies. Great interview, great stories and quite a life! Thanks Pete. 😊 You da man.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Very cool story Joe. Sounds like you had great adventures
@Photojouralist123
Жыл бұрын
My brother in law was PCV and sister in Malaysia in early and mid 70's.
I've been a fan of Joe Cummings since I first started coming to Thailand in the 1980s. I relied heavily on his Lonely Planet writings every time I visited Thailand. Loved his stories about hanging with Mick Jagger and Anthony Bourdain, and about getting recruited by the CIA! One of your best interviews!
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic, i’m glad you liked it👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I used the Joe's Lonely planet in the early 80's when I first started living here. It was great as I was in Phuket and travelling the south of the country! Sadly It got lost over the latter years! Truly a real treasure before the age internet or even mobile phones! Kudos to Joe.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Sadly I was the generation who used the internet as my main resource when traveling. That being sad I did have a LP book on arriving in Thailand but I left it in a taxi in my first week in Bangkok 😞😞
I have to be honest. I thought your video title was clickbait, and this guy was going to be one of those bogus stories from the barstool: “Oh yeah, I was in Special Forces….blah, blah, blah.” Almost didn’t watch it, but the guy’s name kept ringing a bell-so I did. Partway thru, I had to stop the video, walk into my study, and run my fingers over a number of Joe’s books I’ve used for years, just to verify your interview subject was one and the same. Amazing interview, with a guy who’s my contemporary and has been my travel/culture mentor via his books. Pete, just when I think you can’t possibly top your own past fascinating interview subjects/personalities, you go and knock another one out of the ballpark! So wonderful to get the background story(s) behind a well-known, well-read author.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, I knew the title would trigger a few people. Thanks for clicking and giving it a chance
An excellent interview with a most interesting subject (to say the very least). It is nice to watch an interviewer just ask questions rather than claim to be an expert on Thailand. And, of course, Joe Cummins is indeed an expert, but not a person who boasts or lies.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Cheers
Great work Pete , you hardly had to say a word . Joe is an affable fellow , a real quiet achiever and a natural story teller. I enjoyed that vlog.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony
I’m so glad that you finally hooked up with Joe. He told me he would do it. Awesome interview.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks to you for putting us in contact Kevin
The first LP I read, was indeed the Thailand one by Joe Cummings in the mid 90's and it changed my perspective on Thailand and Southeast Asia, I became aware of many possibilities I had no idea about. This was a great interview.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic, thanks for watching
Yes, great score Pete - Joe is a real legend, and his Lonely Planet book is the reason many of us came to the Kingdom.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Cheers James, the start if a great adventure no doubt
Great interview - it had it all. What a rich and charmed life he has led. I used his guides back in the day - so knew the name. Lonely planet books were the bible especially before the days of the internet. As many backpackers carried them as they do mobile phones and IPADS today. He certainly is a wealth of knowledge - and good on him for keeping on rocking.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Stephen
Really enjoyed it again. You do very good Paddy in selecting your Interviewpartners. Live is marvellous and people are living it. You let us be a part to know about theirs. Thank you. 🙏😎🇨🇷
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate. Life is marvelous!!
Great interview Pete. Joe Cummings was a name that I used to see regularly when I first travelled to Thailand in the 90s as my guidebook was one of his. I used to marvel at the knowledge he has of SEA. Fantastic to be able to see an interview with him. Thanks Joe, and thanks Pete.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Cheers Ben
ดีมากบทสัมภาษณ์ชีวิตชายท่านนี้ ขอบคุณที่ทำคลิปนี้มาให้ชมครับ จากเกาะสมุย
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
You are very welcome!!!
Wowzer, that interview had me on the edge of my swat, you find some very interesting guests!
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Cool! Thanks for watching. I’ve more interesting people coming up
Fascinating story about Mick Jagger. Great interview! Cheers from Koh Samui. 🏝️
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@senianns9522
Жыл бұрын
At the time of the concert I had tickets along with several pals living here! We had booked a mini bus from Rayong to BKK and return. I really wanted to see that gig! The cancellation of the concert was supposed to be because of the merchandizing? The Stones were reputedly 'ripped off' over the sales at the proposed concert, some others had 'moved in' --- so it was called off! I heard about the aircraft issues in Mumbai --I really never got to the truth! The good news is I got my ticket money back! Shame the concert never happened!
By far one of your best !!! Great interview !!!
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks John
Wow, what a scoop getting Joe Cummings in for a chat! Fascinating, thanks for posting mate.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks ☺️☺️☺️
You'll do well if you top this interview Pete. Joe is seriously up there!!
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
I know Andy. I’ve a few more in the pipeline
Hey Pete.great job again.ask a question & let the person talk.amazing man.would of love to walk in his shoes wow.keep it rollin
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, we’ll keep it rollin’
Pete what a sensational interview. Difficult to back that one up. Thank you for finding such interesting people and topics. I have that tattoo book in Bangkok so will be giving it another read when I am next back. Cheers
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Cheers Trevor
Wow Pete! It appears you keep upping your game. Joe it's such an amazing person, with such amazing stories. I was glued to my seat. Thank you for this. What a life this individual has had! Simply amazing.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jack I was the same during the interview
@paulseoighemcgee5772
Жыл бұрын
I'll second that .
Your best interview thus far. Amazing guy
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks ☺️☺️☺️
The most interesting man in the world.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@jasonbeedon9867
Жыл бұрын
@@ThairishTimes love your channel!
Another great interview Pete. Big fan of Joe Cummings. Thanks.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it Tom
Fascinating interview, loved it. Long live coffee 😆
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely!!
Best interview so far.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!☺️☺️☺️
Joe is a legend. He deserves Thai citizenship, infact, I am surprised he hasn’t had it awhile already
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
He does deserve it for sure
Great stuff again I started to follow your Chanel. Joe’ Thai accent is so clear like Thai .
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks ☺️☺️
Really enjoyed the interview. Joe is a brainiac! I think we all could listen to him for hours as he has so many interesting stories!!. Good work Pete!
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
I’m tempted to do a part 2 & 3
WOW!!! LOVED this interview. Most fascinating and intriguing!!! I am here in Bangkok for 2 months and would love to hear him and his band. Thank u for ur total presence with ur guests. U are a superb interviewer. Really talented and respectful and ask great questions. Great channel. Thank u.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Hey Katherine check out the band’s Facebook page called Midnight Ramblers. You can find out the schedule for their gigs
@katherinewagoner741
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I was on that right after I watched yall. And, to my surprise, Joe replied kindly to me. I told him about my enjoyment of yalls interview. Fascinating man. If u have not already, u might want to watch his presentations regarding the sacred tattoos. I sure like ur interviews with fascinating people. Thank you.
Another fascinating interview, loved every minute of it. What a life!
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Cheers Peter, I loved making this one. Especially the near death experience story
Next level stuff Pete, brilliant. I've run into loads of "CIA" undercover operatives in expat Pattaya bars......LOL.
@Ned88Man
Жыл бұрын
I always wonder what it is about Thailand that made it a hub for CIA activity, maybe because it is the closest American ally in the region?
@kittenastrophy5951
Жыл бұрын
@@Ned88Man We try to keep some safe distant nowaday unlike in the past. Don't be misled, Thai doesn't lean toward China either.
@lewilu2506
Жыл бұрын
I ran into one nearly recuited "cia" guy in a gym in a patong phuket last week. aparently he declined it wasnt in line for his life path. Lol
@pepelemoko01
Жыл бұрын
@@Ned88Man The Americans spent millions in Thailand during the Vietnam war , there is still JUSMAG in Bangkok,I just looked it up there is a restaurant, that Americans can use.
@Ned88Man
Жыл бұрын
@@pepelemoko01 apparently the black site that they used to waterboard some of those Al Qaeda guys was in Udon Thani. However, since the end of the Vietnam war and the whole undertaking to rid the region of communism, I can’t see exactly what the purpose of having a large presence in the area would be. Places like Afghanistan, Iran, Korea, even China I could see.
Fantastic interview, ...maybe you could do a "part 2" video.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
I would certainly do a part 2 down the line
Great interview, I think his edition was an essential part of my first trip to Thailand back in 2013. Not so much reliance on the internet back then. Ps would love to catch one of his gigs when I'm back in Thailand next time ❤
awww, the good old Lonely Planet, no wonder it struck a chord when you say the name Joe Cummings. back in the day, travel was pretty much influenced by this publication and the TV series, Globe Trekker. hosts like Ian Wright, Megan McCormick, Justine Shapiro and the most famous of all, Bradley Cooper before he made it big in Hollywood. a gentle reminder of "Everyone has to start somewhere!" cheers Pete! you are back to the normal outdoor intro.👍
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Cool I had no idea that’s where Bradley Cooper started. Glad you liked it
He has so many great stories, it would be great to have him on again. Thank you again for another great interview :) 😃😍😃
Another good one Pete. You have a way of relaxing your guests and they seem to enjoy telling their stories.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Cheers mate🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Gold!
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it Scott
Great story, cool guy
I think this is my favourite interview on your channel since I've started watching couple weeks ago. Well done! 45 minutes seems like 5.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic, this is up there as my of my favorites too
Excellent interview with a very interesting and educated man. I'm now interested in reading some of his books. Thank you.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it Kurt
Wonderful when people let life lead the way...and looking back things only get sweeter. They do...so live life.
One of your best interviews.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks James
I seldom comment on any of these Thailand oriented YT channels but this was an absolutely epic interview 🙌
Pete - this is my favorite Thairish Times interview so far, even though I am only 1 minute in. Joe Cummings’ LP guide was my first inspiration to visit Thailand as a teenager in the late 1980s. Fantastic storyteller.
One of the best interviews you have done. A very interesting man.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks ☺️☺️☺️
Wow - unbelievable story. Thanks for this Pete, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome Daniel
Best interview yet. Thanks you.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert
quality content Pete keep it up. thank you
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Michele
What an interesting guy
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
For sure Nikki
Great interview 🤙
Another fascinating guest Pete.
Great Character to have on your channel, great work with this one Pete 👍
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Cheers Dan 🙏🙏
Wow Joe, your Thai is very very good, very Thai I have to say. Bangkok accent. สุดยอดเลยครับ!!!😊
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Yes Joe’s Thai sounds amazing
@onalonan
Жыл бұрын
@@ThairishTimes yes, his sounds really like Bangkok and middle part of Thailand accent. Thai language have very high and very low tone up to the accent of that part of Thailand but Joe know's how to control where you have to high and where you have to low and controlled those high and low to just 10%(not much high not much low) and that's Bangkok accent. If you speak this accent all people in Thailand would easily understand you even hill tribe people.
Fantastic interview with incredibly interesting guest. I met you and your wife on Bangla Rd in Patong beach, Phuket in April '22. I was glued to this video to hear his stories. I've been a subscriber for a long time and told you in April I love your interviews and interesting guests, keep up the great work Pete!
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Hey John we remember meeting you. I hope you’re doing well. Take it easy
Pete... another out of the park interview. (American Baseball home run)
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks William👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 i’ll take home runs all day
Better and Better Pete!
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks ☺️☺️☺️
Your channel is a real gem! Awesome interview Pete.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much
What a legend, by far the most interesting and genuine person on this channel yet, out of all the amazing interesting things jo said it was writing the 1st ever thai lonely planet that blew me away, I couldn’t of travelled back in the 90s without that book and I’m sure many people would agree who travelled pre internet 🙏 what a lovely bloke so we’ll done and great interview 👋
Great interview what an amazing life Joe has had. I was glued to the screen.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it Richard
👍 Interesting Interview Pete, with a nice guy. I was read already one of his books. 🙏
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked the interview and Joe’s stories Gert
Loving these interviews, and the production was super slick. I don't even have a connection to Thailand but I'm hooked into the the channel now!
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Matthew. Super cool that you like these interviews even with no Thailand connection
Great interview. Interesting how we “Boomers” that live overseas usually have interesting stories/ experiences. Joe ( among others you have interviewed) erases the stereotype of Western farangs being on the shady side. One can tell Joe is a well spoken & educated fellow.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Yes it is interesting. Something tells me in 30 years the stories won’t be so interesting. The generation before the internet have edgy and thrilling adventure stories
@TheOriginalNiceGuy
Жыл бұрын
Yes we did
The great thing about KZread is you get to hear amazing stories from people who might not be famous enough to be on the likes of Parkinson but they have great stories anyhow. I have watched the Anthony Bourdain Chiang Mai episode numerous times as I find it portrays the whackiness of Thailand so well. I have always found the Karaoke guy section quite humourous as the microphone falls non chalantly to the floor. Small world as here he is in your vid! What movie is it a send up of? Keep digging up the gems TT.
@slimturnpike
Жыл бұрын
It's homage to a scene where actor James Caan is singing at a karaoke bar in Cambodia in the film CITY OF GHOSTS.
Joe is an amazing human being, a legend. What a life! Thanks for including some of his old pics. It let me see something new about him.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it 🙏👍🏼
This is by far one of the best interviews I've seen on your channel.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Arthur
Sorry Pete I watch all your videos but never comment. And sometimes I forget to ‘like’ these videos I enjoy so much. This one is no different. Absolutely fascinating interview. You’re great at getting guests with not only exciting stories but also incredibly unique and raw ones. Well done. I’m just making a point to let you know that you do great work and I love your channel. I know you put a lot of energy into it so I’m wishing you all the best. Frank in Bangkok
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Frank. I really appreciate it
Wendy was one of my yoga teachers back in the states. At a small party at my home, Wendy got a little drunk and said something that prompted me to ask, tongue-in-cheek, are you a spy with the CIA? A little shocked and defensive she replied: "I was just a consultant". Wendy was a writer for Lonely Planet and got a graduate degree from UC Berkley.... in Russian language studies.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Hmmm I think we need to do some investigative reporting on UC Berkley and its CIA connection
@prasitsupkosarak7084
Жыл бұрын
This is another amazing stories in your interviews.This guy gained a wide ranges of experiences special in many area of Thailand. One of the most Thai people beloved and trusted monk in small town Surat Thani(Suan mok), Cia, Mick Jacker of Rolling Stones which I never heard of coming to Thailand for concert few amazing from this gentleman and holded degree from UC Berkley.
Life with out coffee would be almost unbearable Pete. Can not imagine being lost at sea. Joe is an interesting guy. Great video Pete.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Thomas
Really interesting. One of the best so far. Just about to get the train to London to fly to Bangkok. Off as soon as I’ve watched this to the end. I’ll be there on Sunday evening.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
You’ve probably arrived by now Mick
@soldiermick
Жыл бұрын
@@ThairishTimes yes here now. Had a nice evening on soi 11 and 13. Chill day today.
So many astonishing stories to tell!! 👍👍 Ps. I am more than willing to hear you talk about Thai coffees anytime, Pete my man! 😆🥰
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Cheers Jo, I love my coffee!!!
Great Vlog with Joe and thanks to his in depth contribution to the travel scene countless backpackers have enjoyed life changing experiences throughout South East Asia.
Fascinating stuff Pete. Another top notch interview. Really enjoyed this.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
What a great interview with a very intelligent individual. Joe has obviously had some amazing life experiences and met some very interesting people along the way. What would you give to be a fly on the wall during a night out with Mick Jagger? Fascinating stuff this. Well done Pete. Encore 👏👍
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely and a night out with Mick Jagger in Bangkok of all places!!
@stuartmearns2627
Жыл бұрын
@@ThairishTimes That would be awesome
Wow!
Awesome. Interview Pete!
Marvellous interview Pete! Thanks for sharing your life with us Joe!!!
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it Nok. This is up there as one of my favourites
Great interview… Thanks
Incredibly interesting conversation! Well done! Thanks
Pete, this one is GOLD!
Wow...another excellent interview! You're on a roll!!!
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Cheers Dave
Awesome interview!
very interesting interview with a Thailand legend, and who knows...maybe Joe did some gigs for his Berkely friend John after all ;)
I'll admit he's talking about my experiences in the late 1980s. The trink page.
Mick Jagger on Cowboy now that's a buzz. Great interview!
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, thanks for watching
Really great interview.
Only so called celeb i wanted to meet, was Anthony Bourdain RIP !! Been to one of his gigs, awesome !
Best one so far! Keep it up buddy 👍
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks ☺️☺️☺️
Classic stuff ✨🌍✨
Fantastic interview , thank you
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome Robert
Great stuff,,, thank you,
Another great interview, Pete ! Still have my old Thailand Travel Survival Kit by Cummings.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
It’s a relic at this stage. I loved Joe’s story
Wow. Great "get," Pete. And a good interview.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve
Deadly man, another great interesting interview 👌
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Stephen
Another great interview Pete, really enjoyed it 👌🏼
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks☺️☺️
What a great interview. Joe is so intelligent and inspiring. What an adventure of a life he’s living
Superb !!!
Hey Pete, Is this the dude that sings karaoke in Anthony Bourdain's Chain Mai Show? It was a weird at the time as it seemed adlib but not so weird now.
@deanchalmers3866
Жыл бұрын
yep, I se it is.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Yep correct
Top notch!
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
Great interview Pete. I came here myself armed with the Lonely Planet in 2004. A great book that really helped a lot on my travels. Imagine hanging out with Mick in Bangkok. Makes me wonder what Joe had lined up for Keith Richards 555. When I lived in Phuket for five years, people would say that Charlie Watts would occasionally frequent Patrick'r Bar in Phuket Town and would sometimes play the drums with local bands. That was the story. Maybe Joe knows!
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
I reckon Joe could write a book about his adventures with Mick