Hope you enjoyed the video. Few things: - I don’t care that music made by Russians is used to introduce a British tank. Stop overthinking things. - the rumour of Italy and Spain was meant to be more of a joke than anything as they hate the UK from Brexit. It was a meme. - the rifled gun WAS a good gun, not still is. -yes I wanted the 130mm also but we know why they didn’t

@positroll7870

3 жыл бұрын

Internet rumors say Rheinmetall is working on a new 120mm L55a2 for Leo II AX. With same muzzle energy as the proposed French 140mm(14Mj) . If it works as planned there won't be a need for the 130mm (19.5Mj) for quite a while. And retrofitting a new improved 120mm into the new CH3 turret is easy.

@christianpethukov8155

3 жыл бұрын

I thought the music added a classy touch.

@athcnv

3 жыл бұрын

V FOR VENDETTA!!!! 😀.... Oops....😳....Wait.... 😅

@stevenbreach2561

3 жыл бұрын

As an old Chieftain gunner,I got moist watching this

@christianpethukov8155

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevenbreach2561 I always thought the Chieftain was a really cool old-school tank.

Sure it may have an upgraded armour, engine, sights, gun, and an active protection system. But will it have an upgraded boiling vessel?

@chrisgibson5267

3 жыл бұрын

Hang on. What's the sleeping capacity of the new engine deck?

@1IbramGaunt

3 жыл бұрын

@King Edward damn right bahaha

@craigrichardson7524

3 жыл бұрын

This got me 😂😂

@AlistairAi

3 жыл бұрын

You can't improve perfection

@mikeandhev

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisgibson5267 That is a very good question to ask 👍

Welp, come at a cost of cancelling the Warriors turret upgrade. The Ajax got a lot of shoes to fill.

@bigchunk7246

3 жыл бұрын

Didn’t know that got cancelled. Man the government needs to put some more money into the armed forces. This is embarrassing

@casematecardinal

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigchunk7246 hey well us Americans would love to have allies that aren't Germany that could finally keep up with us. Might get government off their ass and keep our military technological lead. Seriously though I'm happy you guys re getting an upgrade. I hate seeing how the British government neglects her armed forces. Its a shame because the British military men are pretty good guys

@Paveway-chan

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigchunk7246 They're working on giving the Boxers some bigger guns as well, I think. So instead of all Warriors you'll probably get a big/small formation of heavy-hitting Ajaxes and lighter Boxers

@gendumthegreat805

3 жыл бұрын

The worrier is being faded out completely

@termitreter6545

3 жыл бұрын

Tbf, the UK is buying like 600 Ajax (250 of them turreted), which is a pretty substantial fleet of vehicles; its not surprising they are dropping the Warriors. The Boxer is also taking up a lot of roles; and mind that the turreted boxer can actually be as heavy as an Ajax, its one of the new type of huge 8x8s. A bit more concerning is the limited number of Challys being upgraded; just 150 while eg Germany is increasing its Leo 2 count to over 300. But I guess thats just the UK; they focus on the Navy, not the armed forces. Thats why the Chally 2 was neglected in the first place.

Glad to hear my UK cousins are finally getting an upgrade to their tanks. We can debate which tank is best all day, but crews, training, and tactics determine victory.

@Stratigoz

3 жыл бұрын

More like air superiority determines victory.

@user936

3 жыл бұрын

@@Stratigoz great if you can afford it but it can't hold a piece of land like a tank can.

@HanSolo__

3 жыл бұрын

@@Stratigoz The use of air support is in tactics already. So is the infantry support. Can't think of a modern army that does not involves these two in tank warfare. @user936 Indeed. At the end of the day, you have to get *there* on tracks/wheels and then on foot.

@ddandymann

3 жыл бұрын

@@user936 No but it can erase both the tank and the piece of land from existance.

@user936

3 жыл бұрын

@@ddandymann you can leave a smoldering ruin. That doesn't necessarily reduce the tactical importance of the area. If it's an urban area also very expensive proposition and considerable Collateral Damage.

I'm about to join the army on the 23rd of May this year hoping to become a tank crewman so this is extremely happy to hear after all the "Britain might get rid of tanks"

@kurgisempyrion6125

3 жыл бұрын

Rule no 1 mate - don't believe what the media say :) Edit: and good luck on your career

@zhufortheimpaler4041

3 жыл бұрын

@@kurgisempyrion6125 still, unless, he remains in service for 10 years, he wont sit in a Cr3 in normal day to day service, as it will only start its rollout in 2027

@ab5olut3zero95

3 жыл бұрын

Best of luck.

@michaelbillingham5580

3 жыл бұрын

@@zhufortheimpaler4041 I'm currently only 17 so, I plan on staying there a while too

@danielwhyatt3278

3 жыл бұрын

Well, even if you do get to be a tank crewman, unfortunately you are still going to have to wait quite a while for the first Challenger 3 to roll off the line after being upgraded from the 2. About 2027. Very disappointing indeed. Especially as they will be cutting the number of tanks will have once again. We are seriously in a lot of danger now. Even more than we were before. Still though, good luck to you man.

New main gun. New engine New Turrett. New armour. New ammo. Anything else? oh yes. interchangfeable turrett. 'cos why not? Challenger 3 = one happy Matsimus, which is nice

@davidty2006

3 жыл бұрын

Interchangable turret would be interesting hehe. Lets see some semi cursed designs of a leo 2, M1A2, Merkava 4 hull with a chally 3 turret.

@mattiasbjork6416

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidty2006 I would like to see a Challenger 3 with a T-14 Armata turret! ;)

@brucebartup6161

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidty2006 I think it's more of the turret being adaptble after nmanufacture or as additional processes to thhose pltforms given that their turrets are npot interchageable as such. thiking about it, the emphasis o the ISTAR Capabilities migh just indicate that what we have here as Challenger 3 is not a traditional MBT at all. Posibly more like the heavy reconnaissance veihicle that some ion this channel have be asking for for sometime.

@novanchiem4643

3 жыл бұрын

new tank too :)))

@m1a1abrams3

3 жыл бұрын

lets see when it actually comes out. t14 was planned to have a 152 gun but cuz money it has a 125.

Love your work and really appreciate this video, especially as I've never worked with British tanks. Just one comment from a fellow former tank soldier, when you say about your mental health, "that's on me", trust me when I say that it is not. Army culture promotes this kind of thinking, but never forget that you are part of a community and our mental health is on all of us. Reach out to others, look after yourself and never fall for the belief that you are alone in this. Life is a multiplayer game and we are all in it together. Stay safe! :-)

@petersone6172

3 жыл бұрын

I agree

@gordonlawrence1448

3 жыл бұрын

That's why organisations like "Combat Stress" exist.

@petersone6172

3 жыл бұрын

@@gordonlawrence1448 have you personal experience of this organisation?

@HanSolo__

3 жыл бұрын

WOW That is a cool thing to see. When my boss asks me: "Why you two are doing these guys' job?" I answer: "They had a shit load of work, they went home already, and they didn't know it is coming - *we are a team* , we watch each other asses and we care about our guys"

@FabFunty

3 жыл бұрын

​@@HanSolo__ Why doesn't your boss or manager know how much work is coming and schedule the shifts correctly ? Next is that the 2nd team get's fired cause obviously one has enough time and force to do both jobs, you just doubled the earnings of your boss .

Mean in Italy: the Ariete upgrade can wait another 15 years

@wifi_soldier5076

3 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile in New Zealand: you guys are getting tanks.

@v4skunk739

3 жыл бұрын

You country is showing interest in CR3 so perhaps they might get CR3 turrets for Ariete?

@shanekhiu9884

3 жыл бұрын

@@wifi_soldier5076 The Bob Semple is already the apex of technological superiority, everyone else is just playing catch up.

@zaidanmujahid6567

3 жыл бұрын

@@shanekhiu9884 Is there a Bob Semple Cult there? Could be a world changer

@HanSolo__

3 жыл бұрын

@@shanekhiu9884 I mean "play" is a good word. Because we are not talking about the reality of catching it up. It just never gonna happen. This distance makes the Colorado canyon a laughable obstacle.

The Queen of the battlefield's about to get her crown back....

I was sold at the intro! That was 110% Mat!!

A great battle tested tank , great to see the upgrade , I worked on the Challenger 1 as an MOD apprentice in the late 70's then known as the Shir 2 .The Challenger 1 was originally the Shir built for the shar of Iran but when the Shar was deposed the British army took the tanks as there was no other buyer , so they got the tank early as the British army was going to get the second batch , they were an excellent replacement for the Chieftain which had a truly terrible engine the Leyland L60 .

@matthiuskoenig3378

3 жыл бұрын

actually the british army was orginally going to get a completely different tank (the MBT-80) it wasn't untill after the shar was deposed that MBT-80 was canceled and they decided to use what would become the challenger 1 instead.

@mwnciboo

3 жыл бұрын

Leyland Engines...Comes to something when the virtual model of a Chieftain in World of Tanks in a single 15min round, lasts longer than the engine in real life!

@menace7172000

3 жыл бұрын

@@mwnciboo We had them blow up leaving the workshop after a new one , they actually sorted them at the end of the tanks life , but by then they were getting the first Challengers .

Im really looking forward to seeing these. Bovington and the Lulworth Ranges are a 20 minute drive from where I live and seeing these rolling up is going to be fantastic.

@nobody6546

3 жыл бұрын

Take some Vids , IF you can, and send them to Matt to put up! I’d know I’d love to see some Trial Maneuvers! God Bless

@thewomble1509

2 жыл бұрын

good luck. they aren't due to come into service until 2027.

Scholar and a gentleman, been waiting for YOUR take!

@heinzkabofke6791

3 жыл бұрын

Matsiumus practically praises everything except german stuff.

Kee it up mate, it does get easier. Having suffered myself I know how hard it is. AeM

I perked up after listening to the overture. Thank you.

**Challenger 3 tank comes out** Matsimus: **Glowing eyes**

Ignoring the which tank is best debate, can we all agree that the challenger 2 is a very sexy, very capable tank

@ashleygoggs5679

3 жыл бұрын

she always was, and her passive armor when kitted out was second to non. I think alot of people liked to forget how capable she was purely based on her neglect in the past decade or so. The Challenger 2 in real combat has proven to be probably the most capable and repairable tank so far. The only chally lost was in an accidental blue on blue during test firing session. Otherwise one was never put out of action during a conflict. Something the Likes of abrams cannot say.

Welcome to the family of western tanks buddy :)

@dluff

3 жыл бұрын

and the world of one piece ammo 😉

Thought the army was ditching MBTs? Im so happy this is happening instead, its always been my dream to be a tanker in the Challenger

@ashleygoggs5679

3 жыл бұрын

this was only a rumour nothing more.

@TheAngrySaxon1

3 жыл бұрын

No credible army ditches their MBTs.

@Inucroft

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheAngrySaxon1 The US Marines, The Netherlands

@YorkshirePirate

3 жыл бұрын

Tankie in the UK :)

@paddy864

3 жыл бұрын

TANKIE!!!!

its here the challenger 3 is here!

the best looking tank getting the best upgrade.

Will this tank have a upgraded BV for making 2 cups a tea at the same time. Now that will be a battle winner.

@diggraver2929

3 жыл бұрын

The new turret and gun is just a cover up for the BV upgrades!

@lonewanderer5515

3 жыл бұрын

@@diggraver2929 that's were all the real money is being sunk into lol

@paddy864

3 жыл бұрын

The existing BV can boil enough water for the whole crew actually. We had two in our FV 432, lashings of hot water for washing and shaving, hot brews virtually on tap and no need to eat cold food, ever. Brilliant!

@enochpowelghost

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and british made spoons to replace toilet paper this ammo can be used at short range of course to flick at enemy sytems sights.

Never been this early. Wow, 12 seconds ago. Keep up the good work!

I think you kind of covered the size increase with the ammo logisitics. 1. Logistics 2. Ammo development 3. Hopefully theyve designed space in turret to accept larger gun in future (futireproof design) I guess turret interoperability is for export if people want to keep likely leopard or abram hulls.

@rambokiller1000

3 жыл бұрын

You are very right on Part 3 everthing in military so far recently has a giant rule it needs to be future proof - bonus able to use same ammunition as allies Ideally cheaper + quantity of said ammunition

@Ryanowning

3 жыл бұрын

Actually the reason why they would boost space in the turret is likely because the M1A3 is going to be using a 120mm ETC Cannon which will likely become the standard of NATO design. The reason for this is because while people were looking at upgrading the NATO design to be something closer to 130 or 140 mm the fact of the matter is that that reduces your ammo capacity immensely so it was immediately shot off the table. ETC Cannons fix that in that they actually provide more firepower than a 140mm upgrade would grant, but without increasing your shell size.

@robsimpson1991

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ryanowning i meant larger breach rather than dia/caliber but, thanks for the ETC info. Hadnt heard of it before so, im off to research. Thank you.

Finally a video examining military equipment

@mcphan6881

3 жыл бұрын

@Oke Ihenacho I was talking about how he hasnt posted anything of this type of topic for a long time

Hope your all ok mat and keeping that chin up big lad.

I knew this video was coming! Was patiently waiting for it! Great content as always matsimus.

Great video. Interestingly, the "swap the turret" idea goes back to the development of the Chieftain. The turret rings of both the Chieftain and its stillborn American contemporary the T95 were made the same size with the idea that the turrets could be swapped out between the two vehicles. Sorry to hear that you're having some mental health challenges. I hope that you get all of the support that you need and that you feel better.

@agt155

2 жыл бұрын

The turret ring of the M1 Abrams is the same size as that of Challenger1/2/3.

Good morning from Britain

It is great to see you do a video about MBTs Matt. Thanks for this

Your community is here for you Matsimus, you’ve got our support, I hope you can get on top of your mental health woes. Love from Tasmania, Australia 🇦🇺

Now we wait for what the US military is gonna replace the old L44 on the Abrams with

Another amazing video thx mat

Finally you made a video on this!

I think the timing for the upgrade was perfect. the amount of tech out there now for tanks is crazy so that has brought alot to the table to think about. the prototype looks a beast.

i always liked the look of the Challenger. among other MBTs, it has a real minimalist look

@piotrd.4850

3 жыл бұрын

Classic tank look, I'd say. Along with T-55.

Yo nice video keep it up man

Always a pleasure to watch your channel. It's professional and informative.

Lol as soon as I heard the news I jumped on KZread to see if you'd posted anything because I knew you'd be like a kid in a sweet shop.

I posted this comment on another video but i'll post it here as well, all I can say is finally! This has been long overdue! Challenger 3 looks very impressive, shame we're only getting 148 but I suppose war in the traditional sense is going out of fashion and it's a lot better than no tanks at all! I wonder if it will get the newer DM73 round or stick with the current DM63A1?

@zhufortheimpaler4041

3 жыл бұрын

the current generation of german APFSDS is DM53, DM63 has only a very limited rollout, DM73 is not in developement right now. but considering when Cr3 will enter service, DM73 may be already the standart ammunition and the RHM120 L/55a1 might have reached its peak too

@Sinni64

3 жыл бұрын

Zhufor TheImpaler wrong. DM63/DM63A1 is the standard KE Round for the L55 gun. And a lot of them have been delivered. Germany has a contract for another 200k 120mm rounds of all types with Rheinmetall. DM73 is already in testing at WTD91, so it will come online in the next years. And DM73 won‘t be the peak for L55a1 aswell, since KE2020Neo is being developed for it.

this is really exciting development: I'm planning to join the tank regiment when it comes in so really excited.

Glorious

I read the article and it says the next gen armour is for the new turret and front of the hull! Not addon armour! But the blocks under the skin of the base vehicle. It also said they made a break through in armour technology.

Seems like a very smart decision. Hope it works out.

always love this channel cos there is no funny battle between Redeffect and Alpha Defence

Sorry to hear about your mental health concerns brother. Wonderful video as always. Use your bubble and talk about it. Wishing you the best.

❤ awesome thanks so very much!!

Great video nice work Matt 👍🍺😺

Interesting unrelated thought: With trophy systems making missile weapons less powerful on the modern battlefield against heavy armor, in the near future we might see a comeback in things such as field cannons being used. Thoughts?

@kochiyoshi

3 жыл бұрын

Any APS is limited, i think shooting several dumb missile to depleting the APS is enough, or shooting several dumb missile in tandem in front of the real missile to overwhelm the APS is more affective than using a field cannon.

@termitreter6545

3 жыл бұрын

Field artillery is still used a lot, I imagine you mean specifically direct fire cannons like the german WW2 PAKs? I kinda doubt it, those types of field cannon arent very mobile and vulnerable to artillery/air strikes. With modern recoinaissance technology and precision strikes, I'd imagine those emplacements would be quite vulnerable. I could see smaller tank destroyers become more popular again, if missiles struggle to defeat APS equipped vehicles. But mind that APS only is required because missiles are so insanely effective in the first place.

@cedriceric9730

3 жыл бұрын

They are already back, even ships are going back to guns as primary air defence!

@matthiuskoenig3378

3 жыл бұрын

@@kochiyoshi missiles are expensive and bulky (and you don't really get 'dumb' missiles, thats called a rocket) this makes it hard for anything to use several as even dedicated missile carrier vehicles carry very few missiles... APS might not be able to handle too many missiles (haveing limited 'shots') but it is unlikely that any unit would have the ability to overwhelm the systems of an attacking tank unit, atleast not with missiles and not quickly enough to avoid being pumelled. missiles are extremely undesirable as anti-tank weapons in general, we used them as they *were* better than the alternatives for the weight and recoil, but with top-attack mortar/artillery systems becoming available combined with reduced chance of missiles being effective while remaining significantly more expensive than said anti-tank mortar and aritllery rounds and well i think missile systems are going to become obsolete (infact i think they are already)

@rambokiller1000

3 жыл бұрын

@@termitreter6545 Looking at Ukraine Vs Russian Seps field guns do have a role .... be it limited. field artillery do practice oh sh*t defence and do shoot direct fire . more likely you would likely see situations from Iraq 2003 47 rpg/anti tank hits eventually knocking something out ie lucky hit disabling a vehicle rendering it immobile or somewhat out of the fight

Thank you Matsimus !!

Matt. You Brits build some serious top shelf fighting vehicles. Attaboy!!!!

I feel tears welling up😂

Does the new MBT come with the Kettle to make tea and reman noodles?

@cedriceric9730

3 жыл бұрын

Crumpets?

@TheTyrantOfMars

3 жыл бұрын

They’re fitted with a BV which is literally a giant boiler/heater so yes they can warm up rations and make hot drinks it’s a unique ‘pro-morale’ feature of all tracked armoured vehicles in the U.K. though I do believe other counties are catching up or have them atleast in their tanks

@marcuscaines9168

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheTyrantOfMars it makes sense having the ability to warm water up inside the tanks seems rather important.

can't wait, looks really good!

I've been waiting long for this video ❤️

Damn Matsimus, been so long since I've seen you upload I almost forgot I was subbed to your channel.

What about a side battle Tank? Like a tank mistress or concubine if u will?

@a.m.armstrong8354

3 жыл бұрын

Robot tanks are next.

@1IbramGaunt

3 жыл бұрын

Gary Sekelli oh that's the Indian "Arjun" tank haha, just check out Red Effect's videos on the matter

@sikertsok225

3 жыл бұрын

You mean IFWs? XD

Saw the vid about it and was waiting for you to cover it.

REALLY LOVELY intro, and good insight thanks.

I've been waiting for this video since the unveiling announcement.

@adrianstuart921

3 жыл бұрын

Too few too late! 148 won’t last long in open warfare with the Soviet Union.

@davidty2006

3 жыл бұрын

@@adrianstuart921 Unless they are coastal guns on the cliffs of dover. That they can be since that turret does look like it can give good gun depression.

@1IbramGaunt

3 жыл бұрын

@@adrianstuart921 Soviet Union huh? Think your info might be a little out of date

Great news to hear that the vent tubes are finally to be got rid of. Does the increased electronic system enable two BV's to be fitted instead of just one ? This is possibly THE main upgrade for Challenger 3. Also keep your spirits up Mat and remember you are never alone with your Army brothers to support/help you, just ask!

Hey sorry to hear you’re going through some mental health issues. Please get the help you need. Former military here. I really hope you get through it!!!

Another interesting video. Stay on your purpose. Better days ahead mate. Cheers from 🇺🇸

So very few countries have the capability to deploy a proper armored brigade. It is not something that can be conjured up when hostilities seem imminent. This decision will mean the UK retains the engineers and industry required for such a specialized piece of military hardware and also the tactical ability to employ and use such equipment for warfighting. Along with the homegrown ability to build high-end fighter aircraft and Naval combatants, they demonstrate the power and reach of a major global power. I can not imagine a Labour Govt in the UK would have authorized the building up of UK naval forces(let alone 2 carrier strike groups) along with supporting a major increase in the ground fighting ability of the Army that these new tanks will provide. With the current situation involving the increasing threat of the Chinese PLA I for one am very glad our Conservative govt in Australia made the decision to buy and operate the F35 JSF which has now provided the RAAF with cutting edge firepower in our region. Thanks for posting Mat.

Look at that beauty!!!💕💕

Know a guy in the RTR from online and he seems quite exited for this coming to service 🙂

At War and Peace event in Kent a few years back, I met the crew of the world's only privately owned Challenger MBT! It was a Challenger 1. I was amazed!

Take some time to get your mind and body right Matt, we'll be here when you get back 👍

Awesome tank 💥

I wish there was going to be 500 of them at least.

best on the net by far. you da man

Its a thing of Beauty thank the Lord it`s here what a Machine

I still want more numbers of these tanks tho its not enough. We need 500 min to keep up enemies.

Loved your intro.

tanks, great video.

The world's best MBT just got even better 😉

@casematecardinal

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahahahaha if slow two piece firing garbage is the best tank then I think we might as well go back to using shermans

@1IbramGaunt

3 жыл бұрын

@@casematecardinal what do you consider best then? 'coz the Challenger 2 has the strongest toughest tank armour in the world, bar none (surely kinda proved by that incident in Iraq with seventy separate RPG hits at point-blank range and a Milan ATGM thrown in for good measure), and is not as slow and unmaneuverable as most people seem to think it is considering the weight, has excellent cross-country performance in particular; and as for the gun, that "two-piece firing garbage" has the longest range recorded tank-on-tank kill in HISTORY

@sweetdreams5024

3 жыл бұрын

@@casematecardinal foolish proposition. you cant make tea inside a sherman.

@casematecardinal

3 жыл бұрын

@@sweetdreams5024 ah I already have a plan for that. Just put the kettle on the busel. The radios could be placed where the bow gunner position is and have a control panel in the turret.

@casematecardinal

3 жыл бұрын

@@1IbramGaunt ok first, both the Abrams and leopard have a noticeable speed, acceleration, and power advantages over thr challenger. Also yes the challengers gun is bad. It was proven that rifled guns have adverse effects on fin stabilized rounds as well as limiting the types of rounds you can fire out of them. Also if you plonked any other mbt in that position it could have also got that range kill. It has nothing to do with the tank than the geography and the gunnery of the crew. Also I've never heard of one tank getting hit with 70 rpgs and a Milan missile but I'd love a link.

Situational awareness is a critical asset in an MBT, and so the Challenger 3 would benefit greatly if it could carry and launch its own partially autonomous battlefield drone.

@patricofritz4094

2 жыл бұрын

See through armor capabilities should be implemented

Always liked this tank, love the M1.. but the Challenger is great as well.

Great intro!

Great video, and good news for UK. Just about turrets - there are 2 demonstrators Leo 2 hull with Leclerc turret and RHMs Chally 2 hull with Leo 2 turret and 130 mm gun.

@agt155

3 жыл бұрын

"RHMs Chally 2 hull with Leo 2 turret and 130 mm gun."....CR2 LEP turret with 130mm gun not Leopard 2.

@w0lfgm

3 жыл бұрын

@@agt155 TY for the correct info.

I hope they actually do use some of that nice spaced composite on the lower plate. The turret can take 125mm APFSDS all day but you hit that lower plate with 85mm APCBC and the whole tank is gone.

@TheTyrantOfMars

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah don’t confuse ‘gun tanks’ for theatre entry, the challenger is designed to have package of armour fitted when it goes into combat they just keep it off when it’s not being used in combat to save strain on the automotive components

@overlord4404

3 жыл бұрын

Does it really? I doubt they have the newest 125 mm rounds to test that claim

@archiem591

3 жыл бұрын

My thought exactly, the TES megatron has a smallish composite plate on the front but I doubt that could defend against any modern sabot

@Sebastian-yl7nq

3 жыл бұрын

Bruh, real life tank combat isn't a game where you pixelsnipe weakspots, go C&C with other tanks and don't have a single backup unit of a different type. The lower plate on the Challanger definitely isn't a good thing, but it's far too late and/or costly to do a major overhaul on the hull, especially the lower plate, one of the least likely spots to be hit in an engagement. And again infantry threats it, in combat, does get add on composite and ERA

@TheTyrantOfMars

3 жыл бұрын

@@archiem591 isn’t it literally a 1 1/2 ton block of it? Like it’s a substantial piece of armour but that said I don’t know what it’s actual stanag rating is

Keep strong man mental health is a serious issue many men struggle with but are not brave enough to talk about it 😁good on u for adding ur voice

It is on us man, never leave anyone behind. You got this!

I think the only reason why they are keeping with the 120mm is to share with us Americans and the Germans. Any conflict with Russia will involve all 3 tanks.

@tobiwan001

3 жыл бұрын

It seems very likely that the new Franco-German MGCS will use a 130mm from Rheinmetall. They seem to question the long-term viability of the 120mm, but I assume they will design the C3 to allow 130mm in the future.

@happyspaceplumber840

3 жыл бұрын

@@tobiwan001 Since the Leopard 2 was designed for a 140mm gun upgrade back in the 70s, that would certainly be wise. And for the Armata even 152mm are planned.

@v4skunk739

3 жыл бұрын

@@happyspaceplumber840 70's 140mm will be weaker than a modern 120mm L55.

@happyspaceplumber840

3 жыл бұрын

​@@v4skunk739 No, not really. The 120mm L44 has a muzzle energy of 10 MJ, the 120mm L55 of 13 MJ, while the NPzK-140 was projected with 20 MJ. Such a main gun was intended for the combat value enhancement KWS III from beginning on. It was just never implemented because the end of the Cold War meant that there was no longer any need to do so.

@v4skunk739

3 жыл бұрын

@@happyspaceplumber840 You realise metallurgy has developed 10 fold in the last 50 years?

It’s a nice tank though i’m kinda sad that they may have to replace the 120mm early into its lifespan

Well done G.B!!!

Glad to see that they've sorted out the Challenger 3 I was pretty underwhelmed by some of the earlier plans. The version that they've ended up with looks like it could be very good, I'm really glad to see the powerpack and the APS! Two things that I'm concerned about though - when will it arrive (MOD delays etc. etc.) and how many of them are there going to be, I agree with you that 148 is absolutely not enough tanks we need more than that. Don't worry about producing content if you need to take some time out, your health comes first!

Glad the British hasn’t given up on the kings of the battlefield like the USMC has done. Sad days ahead for the USMC

there's a hybrid version of Leclerc and Leopard 2 called the europe MBT, i think in near future Europe will have interchangeable turrets that can be taken out and installed on all tanks produced by european countries :v

@BIOSHOCKFOXX

3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the co-development between France and Germany to create unified design that both countries kind of want to make and use. There was still some debate or rumors floating that it is unsure whether that will be the thing, or that Germany will create Leopard 3. I forgot if Spain was on this too, or that was on a helicopter(?), already forgot, but some other future vehicle had three countries planned to be involved in development, can't remember if it was a next gen jet, tank, or helicopter. But I know for sure that there are talks about designing co-developed and funded tank between France and Germany to replace Leclerc and Leopard tanks, but not a hybrid version as far as I have read, just a replacement for both that both countries can use and ease up the costs of development and maintenance in future. It does sound like a solid plan to co-develop, just like Tiger helicopter and Eurofighter jet. I think more of such co-development should be done within Europe, that way there can be actual standards made, thus easing up the costs for each country that participates for manufacturing parts and shells.

@aidan11162

3 жыл бұрын

These shared development projects tend to result in neither party being happy with the end result and that’s if it ends up being successful. There have been more failures than successes as I recall it

@davidhouseman4328

3 жыл бұрын

The hybrid was just a show case for Germany and France's future collaboration on the Main Ground Combat System.

Ahh! War and Peace - a great opening! good choice! Aussie Army in early 1980s used this music for recruitment ads! And this was during the Cold War when the Soviets were considered the dreaded en!

I can’t wait for the day we get to see this at tankfest one day going round the arena

Integrated tea maker would be nice have .

@tomsoki5738

3 жыл бұрын

British tanks have had them since 1945

I doubt anyone in Europe would buy the C3, when they will get access to the upcoming MGCS in time. So for export opportunities it might be limited to the timeframe of the next 10 years.

@tobiwan001

3 жыл бұрын

@@EmperorLionflame as they plan several more years in development and I assume they want to make quite a tech leap, I don‘t think they will. Without the T-14 Europe or the US would not have spent money on a new development.

Chally 2 is a 25 year old design at best, the hull being older though the armor was late 90s upgrade. Came into service when I graduated from high school or maybe a year or 2 prior, regardless it was mid 90s and they were prototyping them I believe immediately after the 91 gulf war? I was a fan of the Chally 1 seeing it drive around the Saudi and Kuwait sands in 91 but really the Chally 2 was the version that I really liked from the beginning.

Looking forward to seeing the new tank.

I was going to say that for a tank to remain a _'competitive threat'_ for 20 years is a long time. But then again the Challenger 2 has done 22-23years service. Nobody can predict the speed of technological advancements be it new metal alloys/compounds for better/stronger armour or all the computers and optics that goes inside the tank itself. its always a case of playing catch up and this problem is exacerbated by all the cuts to the UK Military Budget since 2010. Not that the MoD is an absolute saint when it comes to spending taxpayers money. They have been known to pile millions into projects that have been in development or in research since then 1980s and are totally obsolete.

When your MBT finally gets the same gun other NATO MBTs had for decades

The most powerful, reliable and survivable Tank on earth is about to get even Better. I still believe we, the UK need to add atleast 50 Challenger 2 up to Challenger 2.5 Black Knight version giving is atleast 198 Tanks. Hopefully we can begin work on a anti aircraft,(Helicopter or close air support aircraft) missile fired through the main gun.

Excellent intro there Sir.

High mate the power pack upgrade should be pretty good because the suspension system is also getting upgraded and they are talking too speeds of 60mph

@seansoraghan3245

3 жыл бұрын

No 60 kph, 60 mph was a typo