Thanks for posting. Beautiful! God Bless Dr. Marcellino’s knowledge of the early church!

Brilliant! Been running into so many false teachings online. Good to see something well thought out like this

This is outstanding.

Thank you!

Prospect student for Fall 2022 Thank you

Video no. 5 and go ahead ... God bless

Thank you for the upload on St. Ignatius of Antioch. I am also fascinated by Saint Maron and the tradition of the Maronite Catholic Church.

@marcellinodambrosio895

6 жыл бұрын

Joseph, I'm a fan of the Maronite tradition. I will be giving a keynote address this July 2018 in Houston at the National Convention of the Maronite Church.

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Pray and protect the Church

Ignatius is the third successor of St. Peter, after St. Evodius.

@clanlockhart4320

4 жыл бұрын

though Ignatius is the third Bishop of Antioch, he is not the third successor of St. Peter. Evodius is the first successor of St. Peter, and Ignatius is therefore the second successor of St. Peter.

Is this the same Ignatius who wrote against the gnostics or a different one. I believe those writings were extensive. Also is this the same Ignatius who said Jesus' ministry lasted 20+ years and who said there should be 4 gospels because there are 4 corners of the earth?

Lord Jesus build his Church (rock, cehpas). and He said to Saint peter, I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. St. Peter's Basilica, Vatican City Rome" Cephas, Rock, Petra, Petros, Peter, Simon. John 1:42 [42]and he took Simon to Jesus. Jesus looked at him and said, 'You are Simon son of John; you are to be called Cephas' -- which means Rock. Matthew 16:18-19 [18]And I say to you, that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. [19]And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatever you shall bind on earth shall be bound, even in heaven. And whatever you shall release on earth shall be released, even in heaven." There is no evidence that the word was used as a title in the first century churches. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church

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Reading through the comments, it’s truly amazing how shallow people think about things. Not sure where to start. Far too many Protestants appear to have almost no understanding of how the Bible was put together (the Catholic Church). Many people don’t seem to have any understanding of the early church, with some imagining that it was Christian and not Catholic, which is ludicrous. Just read the the original documents yourself of the fathers covered in these amazing videos. You can’t read them and still think the early church wasn’t Catholic. You are not going to find sola scriptura or sola fide. You will find, especially in the Justin Martyr first apology, that the early church would have considered sola fide an abominable heresy. Read it for yourself. Protestantism was invented in the fifteenth century based on the imaginations of men (Luther and Calvin).

Asaph, Vapor...Thank you for your commentary. It was very helpful. Even if they are his writings, should it supercede the Bible? There are several instances of wayward teachings discussed in the Bible. Why would we want to implement any traditions that come later that are counter-biblical or just distract us from the true gospel? We need to be very careful about the teachings of Jesus AND something else. Is his sacrifice not enough? Is the Bible not complete and sufficient? To elevate a person or people and hold their teachings and traditions above the Bible is exactly what Satan wants. We have a King of Kings and Lord of Lords who is our one mediator. Let us honor Jesus alone. Not Jesus AND....

@peterbrown6612

4 жыл бұрын

We wouldn't want to elevate his or anyone else's teachings above the Bible. He attained notoriety however because in addition to his personal sanctity, his teachings received ecclesial approbation.

@peterbrown6612

4 жыл бұрын

IOW he provided us an outstanding example of Christ's teachings lived out in a later time.

@christiano241525

4 жыл бұрын

The Bible is materially sufficient (it provides the necessary equipment, the raw materials etc), but I don't think it is formally sufficient (the training, community, correction, replace the role of the church etc). The analogy can be made to the soldier. The soldier is equipped with a weapon, and all equipment necessary to fight and complete the mission. Yet, the soldier needs training, correction, and fellow brothers to come alongside them. This parallels the role of the church, which, in the view of 2 Thessalonians among other Scripture, charges us to hold fast to tradition entrusted to the Church. This oral and written tradition didn't manifest itself formally until the Council of Rome in 382. So who carried the torch, the oral and written Word of God? Christ's Apostles, and those beyond those Apostles that formed the catholic church that sought to worship the Lord. Ignatius is one of those early torch bearers, who--like a mirror--reflects the glory of God. All of this to say, I agree. We ought to never worship anyone but the Alpha and Omega. However, by examining the history of the Church that Jesus established, we can better enjoy the truth embedded in Scripture, deflect heresy, and join in unity with the Church by the guide of the Holy Spirit.

@louisaccardi2268

6 ай бұрын

@@christiano241525 This sounds like a protestant diatribe. First of all, just think of the place that Martin Luther takes in church history among protestants. He is held in high esteem along with his writings. Then what about John Calvin and those that followed in his train like John Knox and others also who were held in high esteem among Calvinists and those in Reformed churches. Among non-denominational churches they do the same thing. Oral Roberts, John G. Lake, T.L.Osburn, many, many more. Fundamentalists do the same. Every segment of the church world have their persons who they hold in very high esteem, no different than the Catholics or Orthodox Christians. So stop with all of this rant.

@christiano241525

6 ай бұрын

@@louisaccardi2268 I think there’s a tad bit of difference between an early church father and Joel Osteen.

Some observation to be made: Naming St ignatius as successor of St. Peter( and then also of St. Paul) is at least erroneous ( I would even, respectfully, consider this as coming from the methods of the nouvelle theologie). The name of “successor of Peter “ is always connected to the papacy , because he died in Rome , and because it is the Pope, and only the Pope who receives his mission and supreme authority and dignity, as prince of the apostles. It is noted that the see of Antioch was founded by St. Peter, which is true; but those occupying this see, never styled themselves as successor of St. Peter especially because this title must apply also to his mission and not just to one of the sees he occupied. It is one special argument in apologetics for defending the primacy of Rome, that none of the other sees has actually ever claimed the successorship St. Peter for themselves, so ascribing it to st. Ignatius is equally wrong. Calling St. Ignatius successor of St. Peter and Paul is also throughly mistaken. We see that this authority is always claimed by the Pope in numerous ex cathedral solemn definitions and in many papal bullas, also threatening for those who should transgress the decree, will face the Wrath of God and the apostles Peter and Paul. Finally in both sides of the seal of the papal bulla ( meaning a round medal, from which the document takes it name) there is the face of St. Peter on one side , and of St. Paul on the other side.

@louisaccardi2268

6 ай бұрын

That is a latter development.

Read the life and teaching of ramana maharishi ,

*Orthodox tradition

Sad Christianity doesn’t understand that dying for Christ doesn’t mean the death of the body,nor does it mean torturing the body,it means the death of the ego, the sense of personal identity that keeps us apart form God or the divine consciousness that is our true nature.

@louisaccardi2268

6 ай бұрын

However, should we shrink back from giving our life for the cause of Christ Jesus our Lord if that was a situation we were in? Many in China (The CCP) know that if they serve the Lord in the underground church in the CCP it means death. It does usually mean death, but they stay faithful to the Lord unto death. Matthew 10: 39 "He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for my sake will find it." (RSVCE). That is physical death.

Prots just do not like the fact the early Christianity was never protestant

@nomadicrecovery1586

3 жыл бұрын

Nor was it Roman Catholic It was Christian

@MichaelJMetz

3 жыл бұрын

Please do not speak for all Protestants.

@borrburison648

3 жыл бұрын

@@nomadicrecovery1586 have you read St Ignatius' quotes?

@nomadicrecovery1586

3 жыл бұрын

@@borrburison648 I have But What are you referring too ? Christianity did not start in Rome Nor was Rome more in authority than any other congregation until later.

@borrburison648

3 жыл бұрын

@@nomadicrecovery1586 St Peter the Apostle was the bishop of Rome, Jesus gave Peter the keys to the kingdom of heaven, St Ignatius of Antioch who was a student of John the Apostle was Catholic, St Ignatius said "wherever Jesus is there is the Catholic church" and "follow your bishop as Christ follows his father"

It really doesn’t matter what someone even ignatius. Said. The apostles did not teach Jesus as God. That’s the point

@katarzynab946

3 жыл бұрын

But Jesus Himself said that Him and Father are the one what do u mean? That you don’t recognize Jesus as God? Jesus has proven in front of the Apostoles many times that He is God, you don’t know what Holy Trinity is? Jesus was called God in the Bible so idk what u are talking about, example in Isaiah: „For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.” And what about 1 Corinthians 10:4? When Apostle Paul said that Jesus was the one who led the Israelites out of the Egypt, so you are not right.

@nomadicrecovery1586

3 жыл бұрын

@@katarzynab946 saying I and the father are one does not necessarily mean they are one as inGOD. One in purpose. One in mission one in will Not one in divinity. That statement does not mean that As to your second text, it’s a good point Is “ a mighty good” the same as YHWH ? Not necessarily many other things were called Hod. Men angels even the devil “ god of this system of things “ Now. I’m not saying I’m correct. I’m simply stating that the things you said here is NOT the Bible calling Jesus YHWH, God There are many other things to take into consideration

@katarzynab946

3 жыл бұрын

@@nomadicrecovery1586 that’s the main thing about Holy Trinity, that it is beyond our imagination to know the real meaning of God in Three Persons bc God can do everything, Jesus and Yahweh are and are not the one, but u can deny They aren’t, like Paul said Jesus was also the One who saved Israelities, bc many people say Jesus is not God but only His Son, but He is for sure God.

@nomadicrecovery1586

3 жыл бұрын

@@katarzynab946 if he was FOR SURE. Ther wouldn’t be debate for two thousand years

@thetruth4079

3 жыл бұрын

Yes they did teach that he was God in the flesh!

This is really bad. This man is a modernist.

The presenter does not touch up on why many do not accept the writings of Ignatius. The writings of Ignatius have been "interpolated" and many are well known forgeries. Out of the 15 letters, more than half are forgeries. I wonder if the presenter has any sense of decency or honesty in relating this to his followers? Who placed the "interpolations in the first place?" Wasn't it Rome? You say in the 19th century, Ignatius' seven letters were cleaned up. By whom were they cleaned up?

@approvedofGod

6 жыл бұрын

M R, I am a bible believing Christian. Your reply is ridiculous. "Even if they are a forgery, they still provide info about what people believed." So you are okay with error because it gives you a glimpse of history? Ignatius has 15 letters to his credit. Some can only be found in the Latin. The seven that you mention are "interpolated" also. We cannot accept them if we are honest.

@approvedofGod

6 жыл бұрын

Brion Hardink, really? The Pope writes a letter, and you start changing the content, adding and taking away from the original. That does not make it a forgery, but it sure makes it unreliable. Having one is no better than having the other (forgery). Saying the Pope wrote it would not be entirely true.

@markllamera5121

6 жыл бұрын

This guy base in his stand both anti-Catholic and Anti-trinity.. Scriptures way... The Holy Divine Trinity Doctrine of grace in Christianity" The Christian doctrine of the Trinity (Latin: Trinitas, lit. 'triad', from trinus, "threefold")word in Greek is tριάς, meaning "a set of three" or "the number three" The Catholic Church holds that there is one eternal God, who exists as a perichoresis ("mutual indwelling") of three hypostases, or "persons": God the Father; God the Son; and God the Holy Spirit, which together are called the "Holy Trinity".[88] Catholics believe that Jesus Christ is the "Second Person" of the Trinity, God the Son. In an event known as the Incarnation, through the power of the Holy Spirit, God became united with human nature through the conception of Christ in the womb of the Blessed Virgin Mary. Christ, therefore, is understood as being both fully divine and fully human, including possessing a human soul. It is taught that Christ's mission on earth included giving people his teachings and providing his example for them to follow as recorded in the four Gospels.[89] Jesus is believed to have remained sinless while on earth, and to have allowed himself to be unjustly executed by crucifixion, as sacrifice of himself to reconcile humanity to God; this reconciliation is known as the Paschal Mystery.[90] The Greek term "Christ" and the Hebrew "Messiah" both mean "anointed one", referring to the Christian belief that Jesus' death and resurrection are the fulfilment of the Old Testament's messianic prophecies.[91] The Catholic Church teaches dogmatically that "the Holy Spirit proceeds eternally from the Father and the Son, not as from two principles but as from one single principle".[92]It holds that the Father, as the "principle without principle", is the first origin of the Spirit, but also that he, as Father of the only Son, is with the Son the single principle from which the Spirit proceeds.[93] This belief is expressed in the Filioque clause which was added to the Latin version of the Nicene Creed of 381 but not included in the Greek versions of the creed used in Eastern Christianity.

@approvedofGod

6 жыл бұрын

Brion Hardink "Those interpolations were removed?" Really. Have you taken the time to study Ignatius? I have. His letters do not resemble anything even remotely close to the teachings of the Apostle John. The Apostles did not teach on Mary being ever virgin. The Apostles did not teach on the Eucharist. I can go on and on. Please read Ignatius for yourself and stop trusting men.

@approvedofGod

6 жыл бұрын

Peter Brown Dr. Ambrosio- He claims that the letters of Ignatius (7) were cleaned out from all "interpolations" using 19th century philology methods. I would like to know where we can get these "un-interpolated" letters. The 10 volume set I own is fairly new and it cost me hundreds of dollars. Ignatius' letters still have plenty of interpolations in them. Plus there is the problem of the "long," and "short" versions. Which one does he refer to?