Thanks to Rise of Kingdoms for sponsoring the video, support my channel by downloading Rise of Kingdoms from ► patron.me/epimetheus Use the code seyfpw6fxu and claim the below prizes for new users: GEM x 200, Silver key x 2, 50,000 Food x 2, and 50,000 Wood x 2 This video is sponsored by Rise of Kingdoms Hannibal is widely regarded as one of history's greatest generals, but why did he ultimately fail? Were the odds sacked to much against him, or did he make a decisive mistake or misjudgment?

@replicant97

4 жыл бұрын

Damn, you're really treating us today, thanks Epimetheus

@hichamabaidia5086

4 жыл бұрын

Lol ... Numidia is only ALGERIA and not MOROCCO . and Numidian cavalry used North African horses which are not ponies at all

@themanfromhyperborea1792

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for not portraying Hannibal as a black sub Saharan African..

@oddish2253

4 жыл бұрын

Hannibal's mistake was he knew to win battles but not how to use them.

@kevinhayes6933

4 жыл бұрын

More detail of Hannibal last battle would b nice. Maybe in the future video u can do that and make it longer. But apart from that it's great

Unlike the Golden Company... Hannibal and the Carthaginians bring elephants

@bteamgleemllc6864

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah dead ones

@b1laxson

4 жыл бұрын

But what about dragons?

@stc3145

4 жыл бұрын

They had a higher CGI budget and they didint waste it on dragons

@noneednoneed5752

4 жыл бұрын

"I paid double wage" ... bitch got scammed :D

@ajaxtelamonian5134

4 жыл бұрын

And didnt just fucking die at the enemy. They fought a bit.

Cartagenian family: Our business is trade. Roman family: Ours is wine. Greek family: We like politics. Gallic familly: Great. We deal with horses. Iberian Familly: Will kill for a living. Everyone: *sweats nervously*

I think Hannibals greatest weakness was the lack of support from Carthage and the general weakness of Carthage to defend itself while he was away fighting in Italy.

@lamuerta2030

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe Carthage was afraid to leave the city less defended

@markmorris7123

4 жыл бұрын

@@lamuerta2030 no they sent reinforcements to Spain.. They should have immediately sent them to Italy. Also I think he should have marched on Rome straight after Cannae. I think the legions Rome had left were busy with macedon in Greece. Of course Hannibal may not have known that.

@ReasonAboveEverything

4 жыл бұрын

I have always seen the Rome Carthage war as more of a Rome vs Hannibal war.

@OctaBech

4 жыл бұрын

Hannibal probably shouldn't have declared war on Rome without consulting Carthage then. In the end it was a rich man, starting his own war and dragging the rest of the unvillin nation into it.

@ReasonAboveEverything

4 жыл бұрын

OctaBech Not necessarily unwilling but he should have gotten rest nobel men to commit 100 percent.

The Roman that reverse engineered the Carthaginian war ship was probably named ikeaus lol

@anotherguycalled6253

2 жыл бұрын

Explain

@scorchedhand1508

2 жыл бұрын

@@anotherguycalled6253 IKEA..... just think about it...

Hannibal must have been a charming guy to get such a diverse army to be so coordinated in battle.

@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506

4 жыл бұрын

They followed him everywhere, so I guess he had some man management skills

@sacredband7089

4 жыл бұрын

We need politicians with hannibal's human management and economic skills.

@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506

4 жыл бұрын

@Ral Esper It's about coordinating so many different groups. I know people followed him for carthagenean silver, but all these different groups need to be managed

@slappy8941

4 жыл бұрын

Nobody liked the Romans.

@AlcaturMaethor

4 жыл бұрын

@Ral Esper They followed him for almost two decades, on foreign land, through victories and stalemate and later defeat (apparently Hannibal ensured retirement of his veterans in his olive farms after the war). Just money doesn't explain that; Alexander army was for example lavishly rewarded yet still opposed their commander in India (and Hannibal expedition lasted longer than this of Alexander).

So there was a SPARTAN general teaching them as well..! Hmmm thats like cherry on top

@markmorris7123

4 жыл бұрын

Not many youtubers are aware or mention the fact Xanthippus records the Carthaginian Lybians as being the most disciplined peoples he had ever worked with, he compared them to Spartans. He also said they became unquestionably loyal to him. He said that the Carthaginians were the most ethnicly diverse peoples he had come across.. I actually think that this may have been Carthages downfall in terms of government policies. So many different cultures wanting there say. I know it was the ethnicly Phoenician families that ran government, but the other families would have all been hustling for some sort of say. And although this approach is more peaceful, of the time they could have done with a dictatorship.

@oddballsok

4 жыл бұрын

@@markmorris7123 diversity is our strength ! By Hannibal Trudeau ..

@oyaml1211

4 жыл бұрын

@@oddballsok LOL no it's not and history has proven this.

@ls200076

4 жыл бұрын

@@oyaml1211 salt

@oyaml1211

4 жыл бұрын

@@ls200076 you salty

You asked the question what was Hannibal's greatest weakness/error? Hannibal in my eyes was just unlucky. The Carthaginians back home never fully supported him and in the end actually betrayed him. After the Battle of Cannae Hannibal sent the rings of many Roman officers killed back to Carthage and requested reinforcements, but according to a documentary I watched, the politicians in Carthage were not fully committed, so only offered token assistance. You can be the greatest military general in the world, but without the backing of the State over the long run you won't win. I notice in your video you never mentioned siege equipment, which leads me to believe Hannibal's army had little if any. This was a serious problem, and explains why Hannibal probably didn't march on Rome after Cannae. He probably realized he didn't have the necessary siege equipment to sustain a siege which could have lasted months. This combined with the lackluster support from Carthage and the ability of the Romans to rapidly replaced their losses spelled his doom. You mentioned that Hannibal married, which I didn't know, did he ever have kids by any chance?

@EpimetheusHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Great comment! Agreed about the siege equipment. From what I have read him having kids was never mentioned.

@salimzwein

4 жыл бұрын

it is bad luck. as for the betrayal of Carthage it is a bit exaggerated. Carthage had lost its navy after the 1st war so it would be impossible for it to deploy any aid even if it was willing to .

@ClockworkAnomaly

4 жыл бұрын

From my knowledge, his wife was raped and killed after one of his defeats of rome. Cant remember which battle but a squadron of fleeing Roman's sacked his camp. Rumor has it his wife was pregnant at the time and so the next city he took, he cut out all the pregnant womens fetuses in revenge.

@cyrilchui2811

4 жыл бұрын

You mentioned lacking siege weapons. How long have Hannibal stayed in Italy? Even in desert North Africa you can find enough wood to make many. Hannibal's Army never had the craftsmen to make siege weapons, nor he was able to bring in advisors from Greece, other Roman cities, Syria; or he simply wasn't keen on siege warfare. Secondly, you talk about token support from Carthage, but did Hannibal seek support from those politician before he raid Rome? You can argue on whether Carthage should have joined force if they were eventually punished by Rome. I think the biggest mistake, was his over-estimation of anti-Roman cities in Italy, which led to the fact that Rome was able to raise new legions after legions, and Rome was able to out-last him. In fact, how many Greek cities, Asian Minor cities, joined him in Italy? So no, it wasn't bad luck. Early death or demise at the Alps would be bad luck, if he was able to raise hell in Italy for such a long period of time, practically long enough to breed a new army in Italy, luck has nothing to do with it.

@sacredband7089

4 жыл бұрын

@Joakim von Anka the barcas knew another war was coming. They were just preparing their country. You better read theodore ayrault dodge's book about hannibal.

Hannibal's mistake was switching to defence strategy in south Italy after some of the Italian cities joined him following the Battle of Cannae. With this defence strategy, Hannibal lost the initiative of attack where he wants, insted he stretched his forces thin in order to defend a large area of his Italic allies.

Make one of ancient Scyrhians or Parthians please!

@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714

4 жыл бұрын

He would likely do dishonor to the skolotoi, for operating on YT speaking of scythians will get you on the wrong side of YT. Also these days few know or aknolage who the skolotoi where.

@nirvanic3610

4 жыл бұрын

@fmoa Horse archery? BS

@nirvanic3610

4 жыл бұрын

@fmoa As for heavy cavalry I know that the romans used them, but horse archers? I just googled it and turns out Rome had a horse Archer unit, but never used them that much.

Here we Carthago again.

@Alex-ux4du

4 жыл бұрын

CARTHAGO DELENDA EST

@malekaltayari3936

4 жыл бұрын

Carthage sick but never die we will com back from Tunisia

@ihebbenrhouma3957

4 жыл бұрын

@Ral Esper cry

@ahmedawedni2362

4 жыл бұрын

@john doe noth Africa-spain-france-north italy-lebenan (carthage)

Anyone else become sad when he talked about the extinction of the elephants

@vartanhrandian5927

4 жыл бұрын

So cold the civilised world was truly uncivilised when it came to dish out cruelty towards poor animals, and I hate them for that.

@skepticm6169

4 жыл бұрын

Yes I live in Algeria and there is 0 elephant in the entire North Africa When it comes to Atlas lions .. those lions also disapeared and the last was recorded in the French colonization era.

@Aeyekay0

4 жыл бұрын

Arma Ta what a shame

@Neo2001

4 жыл бұрын

The last atlas berber lion was killed by the frenchs

@ElCarboon

3 жыл бұрын

@@skepticm6169 la illaha allaha muhammadun rasulullaah you can blame yourself

I find Carthaginian history to be extremely interesting, even more then the Roman one (I'm Italian my self). It's such a mysterious civilization, with unsual gods like Baal or Dido.. can you believe that they reached Ivory Coast? I love to imagine a hidden Carthaginian city in the western part of Africa..

@EpimetheusHistory

4 жыл бұрын

I would love so much if one day they found some buried Carthaginian history books

@Wottan007

4 жыл бұрын

@@EpimetheusHistory : Meanwhile you can read the Greek Historian Polybe ( translated into English ,German, French and Italian and of course Greek ) who was living in Rome just after the second Punic war, he has known the main Roman actors of the 2 nd war and has written a fundamental ( and thick...) book on this subject . One cannot speak about this war without reading Polybe !

@vtecnegro85

4 жыл бұрын

Baal= Lubaale god in Buganda.

@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506

4 жыл бұрын

@King Waffi yikes

@lucabanchieri6288

4 жыл бұрын

@King Waffi That's true, sadly :(

...you drew Hannibal like the chad meme. this is humorous to me

I think that Hannibal's biggest mistake was trying to take Rome with the army that he was able to cobble together and without the full support of his home land of Carthage. If Carthage would have fully supported Hannibal I believe he probably would have overtaken Rome.

@Crashed131963

4 жыл бұрын

True. When the war came to Carthage the moment was lost.

@Heldarion

4 жыл бұрын

That's pretty much it, but the Carthage likely would never have supported Hannibal anyway, so it was damned if you do, damned if you don't. Hannibal was amazing at getting the soldiers to buy in and follow him, but his diplomatic and political skill was nowhere near that.

@Crashed131963

4 жыл бұрын

@john doe What Army , he destroyed 3 of them in Italy.

@jonathanberumen9573

4 жыл бұрын

@@Crashed131963 it's Rome! They would have raised another army. Just look at what they did during the first Punic war.

@dayros2023

3 жыл бұрын

Doubt it, the city of Rome itself was still well defended, and in case of siege the Romans will receive reinforcements from their coloniae and their Italian allies. I honestly think that Hannibal invasion was doomed from the start, he thought that if he defeated the Romans on the field their Italian allies will side with him, but he was very wrong.

You, History Buffs, and Historia Civilis are my top 3 history-oriented youtube channels I watch the most. At some point, I would like to see you cover Sulla's Civil Wars.

Nice video! When I see a video of yours I always make sure to prepare coffee and watch it, great content!

If I get another ride of kingdoms ad...

Very interesting! Your voice and content caused me to stay focused! I love your shield art, it is amazing!

Hannibal's greatest error was not having the necessary siege equipment and full support of Carthage to give a knock out blow to Rome

@coconutshrimp707

2 жыл бұрын

Not even Hannibal's really. The Carthaginian senate did very little to fund the war, had they really dedicated themselves to the war Hannibal would've probably had tens of thousands of more men with siege equipment

@aarondemiri486

2 жыл бұрын

@@coconutshrimp707 agreed they really messed up not giving him the support he needed to win the war

Amazing video as always! How about one about early Rome, the Samnites and the Etruscans?

Phoenicians and Carthagians are my favorite.

This was extremely insightful, thank you very much

Amazing video. Great work, thank you very much! Greetings from Carthage.

A great video! So glad I watched. Keep up the great work!

I fought against Iberian Scutarii warriors and Baleiric slingers while playing Rome II. They were very tough to beat in battle.

@bessabesse2855

4 жыл бұрын

Scutari

@ricardomartin6961

3 жыл бұрын

It's a game dude

Epimetheus, I really like your map style and I think it would be a great idea if you produced map poster merch. I for one would buy!

Fantastic video. I think it is almost certain that the army of Carthage after Xanthippus was formed on the Macedonian model, because Xanthippus was noted specifically for being hired to 'reform' the army, along more up to date lines. It would be nonsensical to mention this, considering the Carthaginians had been fighting, trading, settling and intermarrying with the Western Greeks for five hundred years. Greeks lived in Carthage itself. The Carthagians would have known exactly what a Hoplite Phalanx was, and how it worked. Moreover, it was a formation which was falling out of fashion among the Greek states, due to becoming more obsolete. Whereas they had only seen the Macedonian army when it was deployed by Pyrrhus. Logically, if they were paying for a mercenary, in this case Xanthippus, who had up to date knowledge and an ability to reform the army into a form which could fight in the most modern fashion, it stands to reason that Xanthippus would have reformed the army into a form which was considered up to date in Greece. Additionally, it was in the third century BCE when Sparta itself began reforming its army along Macedonian lines. I don't think Hannibal really made that many mistakes. He was let down by lack of support from Carthage. So perhaps his real mistake was not taking over the government before he initiated his campaign, thereby ensuring his army was anchored as strongly as possible.

@JaM-R2TR4

2 жыл бұрын

Thing is, there are no archeological findings of Macedonian Sarrisas in locations where Carthaginian armies fought their battles (those 4000 Macedonians at Zama, most likely fought as "Peltophoroi" which was quite similar to Carthaginian way of fighting), but more commonly light spears are plentiful.. so how could they ever fought in Macedonian type Phalanx, when no sarrisas were used??? Most ancient historians mention Carthaginian infantry to fight as Lonchophoroi.. using two spears - one for ranged attack and second one as melee weapon... there are even mentions that these spears were not as long as spears used by Romans - who at that time did not even use long Hasta, but instead used long Pilum as thrusting weapon (which was around 2m long) And for Sparta, At that time, they were already past their prime, small city state with even smaller army, because they only could rely on their citizens... Spartan kings tried to return to glory, but failed miserably every time...

@TheSamuraijim87

2 жыл бұрын

@@JaM-R2TR4 and how many archaeological finds from the Carthaginian military have there been? Very few. How many intact sarissae have been found in archaeological digs? None. So this is essentially a pointless note. At the time of the Punic Wars and the time when Spartan soldiers were reforming the Carthaginian armies, that is *precisely* the technology Sparta and the other Greek cities were adopting. The whole Hellenic world was adopting the Sarissa phalanx. Cleomenes of Sparta largely ended the practice of fighting as Hoplite Lonchophoroi and turned the Spartan army into a Macedonian style force (and incidentally nearly conquered the Pelopponesus). Further, the military strength of Sparta is not what is under discussion, as Xanthippus was not hired because he was from a strong state, but because he could reform and modernize an army quickly as he had up to date expertise. There would be no sense in paying to outfit the Carthaginian army in the Hoplite fashion, as it was a thoroughly outdated model of warfare. Moreover, the Carthaginians had been exposed to centuries of Hoplite technology, and were certainly used to it, but the army reforms undertaken by Xanthippus were expressly undertaken to bring the Carthaginian army up to speed with the practices of Hellas as it was in the 3rd century BCE. So why would they pay for technology and methods they were already used to? It would be comparable to a modern person purchasing training for making computers and learning how to make 1960's Room Size Processors instead of modern day laptops, PCs and modern microchips.

I love this channel so much!!!

@EpimetheusHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you

This is my favourite time of history..Thanks for your videos. And if possible bring more videos of Roman Republic period.👏👏

A delight to paint for us figurinists ... and a delight to watch for us, subscribers of your channel!😍😍😍

@lamuerta2030

4 жыл бұрын

Minis are cool

it's so good to see you and your videos

@EpimetheusHistory

4 жыл бұрын

:)

Excelente vídeo!!!

Yah know what’s funny? I was just watching Dovannatty’s “unbiased history of Rome” video about the Punic wars when I got the notice for this video.

@mekonnenmuluwork3784

4 жыл бұрын

how are you enjoying the series?

@Nonamearisto

4 жыл бұрын

The salt sequence in that one is a work of art.

@connorgolden4

4 жыл бұрын

mekonnen muluwork Love it. I love how ridiculous it is.

@lordaragorn001

4 жыл бұрын

If dovanatty(the biggest romaboo)drew hannibal as a chad Then you know,he was ,an absolute chad.

@mekonnenmuluwork3784

4 жыл бұрын

@@connorgolden4 that is grade a propoganda right there. Makes you wanna strap on the Gladius and reclaim Rome in the name of chadus maximus

Hey epimethus interesting topic I like these vids

Thanks for the reminder to watch this!

Amazing video as always!!!!

Love your Artwork!

@EpimetheusHistory

4 жыл бұрын

:D Thank you!

It feels like Carthage is the good guy in comparison to how Rome treated subject people. But that maycbe because Carthage didnt get to show a bad or destructive side... maybe we would have a Carthaginian Kingdom, had they not lost.

@edwinrajesh3735

3 жыл бұрын

Then we wouldn't have a julius caesar

@ihebbenrhouma3957

2 жыл бұрын

Carthage started as a kingdom and became a republic.

@edersonnico

2 жыл бұрын

From what I know about them, they were as bad as the Romans.

@slimsaidi2407

Жыл бұрын

they weren't as bad as romans , carthage paid north african native tribes which are libyans, numidians (amazigh) and mauri to rule their lands, then went to war in iberia with native tribes to expand, and only used force in africa when it was needed against numidian rebels, unlike rome that went to war with their neighbors (etruscan league, latin league, samnites) to expand and conquer italy

By the way, thank's for doing Carthage videos. I'm delighted to know, that Im not the only one obsessed with them.

Wow, fantastic video

fantastic, as usual.

I think Hannibal made no mistake. It was the mistake of Carthage that wasn't able to supply him for 15 years. How incompetent is that?

@InfernosReaper

2 жыл бұрын

dude was on the continent for over a decade and couldn't come up with a decisive victory. The failure was in the planning stages. He should've secured some kind of supply line regardless of Carthage and possibly some reinforcements as well.

@stefthorman8548

2 жыл бұрын

@@InfernosReaper they did have decisive victories, and kinda hard to conquer the strongest empire in the world without their own empires support.

@InfernosReaper

2 жыл бұрын

@@stefthorman8548 Nah, if he'd had any real major victories, he'd have actually conquered something. Dude's entrance strategy was creative, but he really didn't seem to have a solid plan for what to do when he got there, which is why he lost. It's kind of a pity because Carthage honestly deserved the win more than Rome.

@matiusbond6052

2 жыл бұрын

@@InfernosReaperHannibal had very little support from mother Carthage,unlike Rome who were 100% behing their military.Hannibal most likely would have won with full support of Carthage

@InfernosReaper

2 жыл бұрын

@@matiusbond6052 He wouldn't have needed the support if he had implemented a good plan of action for what to do when he got there. Even if Carthage wanted to support him, it was too far away behind enemy lines and he should've considered that when he started the campaign. This is evidenced by him futzing about for years before finally giving up.

I love the quality of this channel

Wow, excellent documentary.

On one hand Carthage's reliance on diverse mercenary forces seems pretty resourceful but I just feel like Rome's approach was way more effective. It sounds as if they had a more unified and structurally sound military organization which allowed them to take many blows. In contrast the Carthaginians used their wealth to control a powerful mercenary army that wouldn't have the means to keep going. I don't think they had a choice with their economy and population but it would have been interesting to see how Hannibal would have faired with a primarily Carthaginian citizen army that adopted many technologies like the romans and a more unified organization.

Nice video. I liked your point about the Carthaginians deciding to keep their people working instead conscripting them into armies to fight their foes, thus providing a steady stream of income to hire mercenaries. This seems to me to be the only viable option they had too compete against the manpower of Rome. I think many people unfairly castigate them for choosing this option. I do not think Hannibal's plan to defeat Rome was bad, it came very close to working.

Awesome work boss!

@EpimetheusHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! :)

I wish we had more Carthage in media. It’s always Rome and the Greeks the Mycenaeans and the Trojans. Egyptians pre and post Ptolemy. Recently we have been getting a lot of Norse/German tribe shows as well. Carthage was the most dominant Mediterranean power and even the Phoenicians who gave birth to the Punics don’t get the credit they deserve. It’s as if Rome still to this day did a good job from practically erasing their achievements and wonders from history. I was always a Roman and Greek fanboy and it wasn’t until Total War Rome till I discovered who the Carthaginians were, and since then I’ve been obsessed. I like that their culture is a blend of a bunch of different ones. It reminds me of a European United States in Antiquity of course. Just would love to see them in more video games and shows as well as movies.

@rezguirami3262

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man, From Great Carthage ! Bellow some information's about the Great Carthage hopefully you find it useful Carthage: The First Multiple Form -- Karim Mokhtar, 2017 -- One of the unknown and hidden things is perhaps the fact that Carthage was not only the first real republic on earth, and was not only the first to write a complete modern constitution from which the world later quoted its constitutions, and whose glory was Plato, Aristotle and other great philosophers, but was also the first to He created or adopted the concept of pluralism at the heart of a single state in an era when tribalism and racial racism were prevalent and natural in all societies of the world without exception. For example, the Romans were hostile to those who did not speak their language and described them as savage or barbarian (from which the term “barbarian” came) and you in the extermination of the Troskys are proof of that. The Greeks demonized and then annihilated those who did not believe in their ideas or policies (the execution of Socrates is the best example of this). A group of the ancient Hebrews adopted their identity on the basis of race and seclusion and used derogatory labels on those who did not believe in their gods and called them "flies." Likewise, all other peoples at that time were afraid of pluralism and disturbed by it and did not coexist with the other. On the other hand, Qeret Hadasht, or Carthage, was a state based on pluralism and coexistence among all, regardless of colour, race, language and religion. color and ethnicity: The Carthaginian was white, black and brown, and the society did not witness any racial problems during more than a thousand years. Rather, the white married the black, the brown from the white, the northern from the south, and the southern from the north.. The people were a beautiful cosmic mosaic harmonious that translates the idea of ​​the multidimensional man and his perception in The most beautiful shape. You can go out on a crowded street in Tunis today, after three thousand years, and for only ten minutes, to see the concrete and living evidence of what I am saying. The issue of race was not raised before the beginning of the Roman and then Numidian strife (which in turn was a Roman mechanism to gnaw Carthage from the inside and weaken it socially by sowing racial strife during the years preceding the Holocaust and the war crime of 146 BC. The attack of Rome, with the help of dissidents from Numidia , against the defenseless and civilians in Carthage, burning the city out of hatred and fear of its rise again. the language: Just as the ordinary Carthaginian, like any of today's citizens, spoke and understood more than one language: a. The official language of Carthage, that is, Carthaginian, which gave its alphabet to the whole world, or the so-called Canaanite, Phoenician or Punic after that (and all of them are one language with different accents, as is the case today for the English language, which was divided into British English, American English, Australian English, and others), B. Ancient unwritten local languages ​​that appeared before the beginning of civilization and written history c. Foreign languages ​​such as Greek, for example, which was very common due to the presence of Greek immigrants in Carthage and Sicily. Religion: The Carthaginian also respected the religion and belief of the other. And he respected pluralism internally as well. He did not invent any laws that discriminate between people according to their beliefs or the nature of their faith or not.. Rather, the exact opposite, as Abd Melkert and then his son Hannibal and before them other chauvites (war chiefs) waged wars and battles in order to defend the freedom of the Carthaginian citizens and their descendants in Northern Europe Greece, Italy, and others... Carthage's respect for the idea of ​​freedom of belief was an incentive that encouraged people from all parts of the world to immigrate to it to work, live and dream in it, as is the case of the United States today. I even go further to say that the American model of pluralism today is inspired by the Carthaginian pluralism model. Three thousand years ago.

@ajhaynes8204

Жыл бұрын

The Rome government and commerce you know and give them credit for was absorbed from Carthage.

@DirtCobaine

Жыл бұрын

@@rezguirami3262 yes I love it!!! I always say Carthage was the US before the US in terms of a melting pot as an empire and the city of Carthage was like the City of New York. I hate that a lot of the Greek and Rome propaganda still lives on to this day. Saying they relied on nothing but mercenaries. That’s not a fair depiction. Because you think no loyalty no courage, no code, no belief. no honor among the mercenaries and their employers. When really warriors from all over banded together and flocked together from everywhere. Etruscans, Iberians, Libyans, Lusitanians, Italians, Persian, and EVEN Spartans. Carthage had a Spartan general and Spartan commanders training the whole of the army. So that’s one thing I wish was more accurately represent. Carthage not only had the most advanced navy it also had an insane military culture and society. There could be no other way for a general like Hannibal to come from Carthage if Carthage didn’t encourage the young to be warriors as well as merchants. I see a lot of documentaries saying Carthage couldn’t have had a warrior society or culture because their men were better off all being merchants and therefore just paid others to be warriors for them. I think that’s such bogus because you can absolutely be both and they did.

@DirtCobaine

Жыл бұрын

@@rezguirami3262 So to sum it up Carthage couldn’t have relied on just mercenaries to pull of what they did. And what they did was defeat Romes biggest and most well equipped army ever field at once. And they beat them in an open field. Not at sea. And on Roman soil. And who knows how Rome really ended up winning the war and destroying Carthage from existence along with all its culture and history. Who knows how amazing they really were. We get all these amazing accounts from only 2 peoples who hated the Punics. Greeks and Romans. If they hated them and still say all these amazing things imagine what they actually achieved. There is some evidence that Carthage even sailed to The Americas. And I believe it. They connected the world. They were the worlds Amazon.com and even internet itself

@skullthrower8904

Жыл бұрын

I too wish hollywood ruined history with its modern degeneracy Also that kids grow up thinking these dogshit shows were accurate

I honestly used to hardly think about Carthage, just saw them as a stepping stone for Rome. The more I learn about Carthage the more sad I become for them. They had so much going on, but alas history cares not for such things.

Byzantine empire reminds me of Carthage, mother city fell , mercenary armies very deceptive courts. Machiavelli sums it up why mercenaries are not a solid foundation for a civilisation

You know i discussed with someone whether or not war elephants could work against other african Armies like The Malians or Kanem-Bornu or Ethiopians Largely no considering the fear factor wouldn't come into play plus many SSA armies put heavy emphasis on mobility they mostly used cavalry and light infantry

@tyronechillifoot5573

4 жыл бұрын

@Admire Kashiri plus savanah elephants are significantly larger

@BoqPrecision

4 жыл бұрын

Ethiopians used Elephant cavalry, atleast in the 6th century CE, as chronicled in the Quran and the invading Ethiopian army that wanted to destroy the Kaaba and were repelled by birds carrying brimstone.

@BoqPrecision

4 жыл бұрын

@Admire Kashiri The specific war general was Abraha Al-Ashram, and not even he's mentioned by name in the Qur'an, but in the hadeeths and sira of ibn katheer. Whether the Emperor he worked for was Kaleb it someone else is not recorded.

@matthiuskoenig3378

4 жыл бұрын

@@tyronechillifoot5573 savanah elphants were not ridden by humans (atleast to any great extent), due to being signifcantly harder to train and control. and syrian elephants (western asiatic elephants) were signifcantly bigger then other asian elephants and north african elephants, yet the armies that used them still routed to other elephant types.

@tyronechillifoot5573

4 жыл бұрын

@@matthiuskoenig3378 they weren't as large as Savannah bush elephants

It's a pity Hannibal didn't think to free the slaves in Rome. Granted, the slave population was nowhere near as high as it would be before the Serville wars, but I'm still fairly confident that enlisting their aid would have given him more than enough men to not only take and hold the city but occupy the rest of the peninsula as well.

@coconutshrimp707

2 жыл бұрын

I bet he could probably still gain at least 10-15k men at that point, even that would've been a great help to him

@1perspective286

2 жыл бұрын

@@coconutshrimp707 My guess is that he knew he would be condemned for it by the homeland, Carthage wouldn't want their own slaves getting any ideas. Heck, maybe he intended to sell them off himself, who knows?

Right now Carthage is my favorite faction in rome 2 total war. All my life as a kid I was obsessed with Greece in Antiquity especially Spartans, even way before 300 had come out, in fact I didn’t really enjoy it as much as my peers because Hollywoods Spartans weren’t the Spartans I was accustomed to. But it was better than nothing. And then I discovered Rome from the original age of empires game. Which I’d always play religiously at my grandmas which she had a Linux specifically for kids so the games we’re supposed to be highly educational and in other words kind of boring. But for whatever reason Age of empires 1 and 2 were on there, so that’s how I discovered Rome. And because of that I started reading about antiquity and so I guess it really did it’s job to educate me. But now as an adult I’ve been really fascinated by cultures outside of Greece and Rome in Antiquity, which has eventually led me to the Carthaginians. And as of now I am so fascinated by them.

@zarelli7831

Жыл бұрын

It makes me proud to be part Tunisian ☺️

@DirtCobaine

Жыл бұрын

@@zarelli7831 that’s awesome! I truly believe the reason Rome jealously destroyed Carthage and it’s history and culture is because they knew they were the only civilization that not only rivaled them but beat them even when Rome fielded their largest army ever field against them. It was only because Hannibal spared Rome expecting them to surrender that Rome survived. So I wish we knew more. A lot of people say what we know about them is what Rome wants us to know, but I’d imagine oral histories were passed down since and I really hate that scholars are so dismissive of oral histories because there is truth in them. But I’m glad that makes you feel proud because you should be, Carthage/Phoenicia are probably the most influential civilization of all time and not only that I personally have a theory they possibly could have sailed as far as America because they’re the only people who could have.

@DirtCobaine

Жыл бұрын

@@zarelli7831 what language is spoken there now? I would like to know more about your culture today as well because I don’t know much outside of Antiquity

@rezguirami3262

Жыл бұрын

@@DirtCobaine en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Tunisia

@samarthmisra6064

Жыл бұрын

Try the Mauryans once.

I was just reading this part for my thesis what a coincidence :O i can recommend some books about subject as well

@H.M.Augustus

4 жыл бұрын

daydreaming could you recommend some good reads please. Im incredibly interested in ancient Carthage and the Barcas both Hamilcar and Hannibal were great military leaders that should be studied

@Wottan007

4 жыл бұрын

@ Daydreaming : The fundamental Historian to read about the mercyless war between Rome and Cartago is the Greek Historian Polybe who wrote his thick book some 50 years after the 2 nd War between these two powers. He was a Greek Patrician condemned to be exiled in Rome from his native Greek city soon after the Romans took full control of Greece.He lived almost 20 years in exile in Rome and became a faithful Roman subject. He knew perfectly all the whereabouts and fundamental data of this war from the mouth of its main Roman actors. His Book is of a paramount interest for those interested in this titanesc struggle between the two " Super powers" of this time...Could we see in this struggle of some 2200 years ago a kind of anticipation of the fight to comme between the U.S. and its main contender, China ? If yes ( what i believe...) who will play the rôle of Rome and who the one of Cartago ?

@freeloader510

4 жыл бұрын

@@H.M.Augustus for a starter book to the topic you can start with companion to punic wars from blackwell publishing other then that i recommend you check out dexter hoyos books, almost every book he published about Carthage and her history. And lastly i recommend adrian goldsworthy's punic wars and cannae it will give you great insights about battles and tactics. If you want to learn more you can always ask specific questions.

@freeloader510

4 жыл бұрын

@@Wottan007 yeah i know about poly bro but sometimes i feel he is bias about Carthage and her motives but it's understandable cuz she did lose the battle and you cant support the loser when you live in rome. And about last question i cant really think neither of them Carthage worthy :D (im a pro supporter!) Carthage was a mercentile empire so chine would be more accurate i guess but also someway she was colonial and she was great monopoly on some of the products so i can more fitly resent them tp ducth colonial empire.

@Wottan007

4 жыл бұрын

@@freeloader510 : Thank you for your kind and intelligent answer. I do not share it completely, but you have good points, Good luck.

V good video. Very informative. And what is the soundtrack of this video? Thanks

Very interesting video

Hannibal's story is great and deserves a big budget movie or TV production

@raoufbarhoumi4943

3 жыл бұрын

i hope so

Numidian calvary war cry: My Little Pony! My Little Pony! aaaa aaaAA *AAAAAAAAAAA*

cool video love from Crthage city Tunisia

Could you do some videos about Pyrrhus? 🥺 ALSO LOVED THIS ONE. Everyone talks about Zama and the battles, but never that much about the structure of the Punic army. Also love the colorized versions of Hannibal and Scipio! Great to see. and of course, CARTHAGO DELENDA EST

Much of Rome was influenced from the Phoenicians/Carthaginians... any information on Punic culture is always great considering how much of their history was lost/burnt to the ground.

have you done a video on the middle east specifically the rise of the islamic caliphate ? there are very few detailed videos on it with the great story telling and visuals you do. and its filled with lots of stuff that most people dont know.

good stuff

hello Epimetheus,a loyal follower, from tunisia !

@lamuerta2030

4 жыл бұрын

Hello from CA

@lordaragorn001

4 жыл бұрын

@@lamuerta2030 Hello hello

I love how this series gives a view into deep historic time. Just thinking of Carthaginians had a empire for 300 years and not many people have heard of them. We are all just spinning leaves in the river of history.

Carthage, my lovely Carthage !!

as always... a 'magnifique' lesson de 'histoire'... ;-)

Great Video Hands down I love the break down bro u on the $! Keep me posted!

Hannibal biggest mistake was not to strike Rome. But overall not being violent enough or too civilized he would always look for treaties and concensus and also obeying Carthage when they ordered him back while he was pillaging the Roman country side contrary to the Roman's who weren't afraid to strike first and were willing to risk it all to get an hegemony...

@SyncZane

Жыл бұрын

He wouldn't succeed if he tried anyways. He already lost a lot of troops and he doesn't have siege equipment's. His army would've been decimated before he even entered the city which is why he requested Carthages council for support which didn't come.

@marc8959

Жыл бұрын

Tell me how could he take rome having less than 20 thousand mens (after cannae) against a city of 120 thousand citizrnd

Hannibal’s biggest mistake was being too good for this world. 😢

@hannibalburgers477

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man.

Good videos man you should of mentioned that the carthage ship they found was marked with letters to show where things go in the flat pack

Can you the Seleucid Empire next please m’lord”

Could we get a video on the Seleucid or Hellenistic armies?

Everyone says that the phalanx was inferior to the legion, still Hannibal used them with great success.

@b1laxson

4 жыл бұрын

Phalanx was less adaptive is certainly true. In its preferred terrain it is devastating. So it fell to generals and mid commanders to get favorable positions. The idea of a phalanx can even be seen adapted into to the era of Muskets with Spainish tercio (spelling?). a sample is 2/3 pike and 1/3 muskets. Pike hold off horse. Muskets shoot at medium range. In close combat its all about the pike once again being like a phalanx.

@anggi8699

4 жыл бұрын

The new generation of Macedonians learned the wrong lesson from Alexander campaign. They thought phalanx was a wonder weapon that will beat everything. The truth is Alexander army was well balanced between heavy infantries, light infantries, cavalaries, skirmishers, scouts, and engineers. During the Diadochi war, Ptolemy, Antigonus, and Seleucus still able to keep a the balance between unit as they learned it straight from Alexander. It's the same thing with how Prussian generals try to emulate Frederick the Great's War of Movement without understanding the reason why Frederick did it the first time.

@matthiuskoenig3378

4 жыл бұрын

Hannibal used Celtic and Spanish mercinaries though, the latter fought similarly to Romans the only army to ever successfully use phalanxs against legionaries was Pyrrhus, and it was pyrrhic victories.

@Armorius2199

4 жыл бұрын

Guys that's a lot of good arguments, we are a very educated audience.

@Crashed131963

4 жыл бұрын

This is 200 years before the 1st Roman emperor . There was no full time Roman army with legions , it was a call to arms citizen force ,who returned to farming or clay pot making once a war was concluded. People think the Roman army never did any changes in it,s 600 year history and wore the same Hollywood movie type red cloak style armor and fought the same for 600 years is incredible.

I'm from Tunisia 🇹🇳 (carthage)

I Want to draw like this guy!!!

2:39 These are late design pila. The weapons used during the early Republic were simpler.

The Virgin Balearic slinger vs the Chad Rhodian Slinger!

Always thought Hannibal should have been given command of the Seleucid infantry at Magnesia. Doubt it would have stopped Antioch's from charging off like he did but I think he would have been able to deal with and defeat the Roman infantry.

Proud to be Tunisian ❤️ 🇹🇳

@ahmedst205

4 жыл бұрын

The eurocentrics and afrocentrics will claim that you are arabs , eventhough the tunisians still carry 70% of north african dna!

@baam8014

4 жыл бұрын

@@ahmedst205 Tunisians themselves consider themselves Arabs. They are one of the most arabized countries in North Africa. The berber language died in the country.

@THESPATHARIOS

4 жыл бұрын

as sa thats what theyve been taught, it has nothing to do with what they actually are.

@a.s.4579

4 жыл бұрын

@@THESPATHARIOS ?

@tarakmaammar214

4 жыл бұрын

@@baam8014 so you're saying brazilians are portuguese ?

All these nationalities, spartan training, one of the best generals of all time, and war elephants... and they STILL lost, even after inflicting serious blows on Rome at Cannae, Trebia River, and Lake Trasimene! Gives you an idea of just how damn powerful Rome was.

@EpimetheusHistory

4 жыл бұрын

It does. It was a close run thing. The Carthage cash bought the best of the Mediterranean...and well Rome was Rome.

@Nonamearisto

4 жыл бұрын

@@EpimetheusHistory Funny thing is, it wasn't even that close. Carthage never won a major victory against Rome after Cannae. At best, they had minor victories, draws, or serious, crippling losses. They didn't have enough manpower to bring down Rome, Hannibal didn't have siege equipment (or at least not enough), and Rome was able to invade Carthaginian territory in Spain, defeat or convert Carthage's allies, and mobilized something like 250,000 men (after taking serious losses!) using (mostly) just Italian manpower AND Rome could do all this without collapsing economically.

@nisarbo3781

4 жыл бұрын

@@Nonamearisto you are wrong get your information right: carthage indeed had major victories after cannae: 212 bc battle of herdonea 3 legions 18.000 men in apulia tried to challenge Hannibal 16.000 romans died. Shortly after a roman praetor assembled a force of 16.000 Romans but was intercepted and pressed against the silarus river in a pitched battle 15.000 romans died. 211 BC the battles of the upper Baetis in Spain: The combined force of Publius Cornelius Scipio & his bro Scipio Calvus of 30.000 men were defeated only 8.000 Romans survived and fled beyond the ebro river reforming in a hodge-podge force. Both consuls died. This led the groundwork for the son Scipio Junior and his campaign. 210 BC 2nd battle of Herdonea: According to Polybios Hannibal managed to catch a force of 4 legions who was trying to reconquer southern italy from him but got defeated 7.000-13.000 roman casualties.

I believe the biggest mistake on Hannibal the fact he trusted Carthage to support him during his campaign in Italy

@lamuerta2030

4 жыл бұрын

I wonder what were their arguments against suppling him, what do you think?

@cal2127

4 жыл бұрын

@@lamuerta2030 plausible deniability possibly.

@napolien1310

4 жыл бұрын

@@lamuerta2030 I believe it went like this, the government in Carthage were divided between two camps some who wants to support him others doesn't and so they can't support him when they are divided, also I'm sure if they knew about what he has done in italy with perfect information they all will support him, that's why I think they don't have a good communication with Hannibal when he was in Italy and couldn't believe the information that came to Carthage about his great Victories, I mean who would believe that other than Rome it's self.

It sounds like Hannibal's success was a product of Hispania. The native people and their mercs, the silver mines, and even Hannibal grew up there. Rome even learned from the Spanish soldiers.

hay quá iuiu cô Mây

Hannibal bought all the DLC units

@EpimetheusHistory

4 жыл бұрын

True

Hannibal's greatest mistake was being sponsored by shitty mobile games. Really kills the vibe, I must say.

This was a nice video to watch. I always knew that the Carthaginians were impressive. Now I have a better idea of just how impressive. So great job with that. And I think Hannibal should have thought through more thoroughly on his plan to attack Italy itself. He should have had a plan in place to attack Rome itself. And second I think he overused the War Elephant at Zama. He shouldn't have used them much at all and relied on his soldiers. But that's just my thoughts on him.

I watch these kind of video to build up my appetite for civ6

Why do so many people have so much negative things to say about this video. Making these types of videos and getting sponsored is extremely difficult. They did a great job, so let's all of us just sit back and enjoy.

@danieljohnson7958

3 жыл бұрын

Rowan Govender. One big problem is that Carthagenians were NOT Caucasians

@Lenn869

3 жыл бұрын

@@danieljohnson7958 we wuz kangs n shiet

I just finished play Rome 2 :))

These comments make me sad, Hannibal couldn't just lay siege to Rome, arguably the most well fortified city in the Mediterranean at that time, with just a meagre starving force under 20,000 with no siege equipment or supplies. This is not a total war game! If he did lay siege he would be bogged down and surrounded by different legions and wiped out easily.

@matthiuskoenig3378

4 жыл бұрын

and even if he could bring or build seieg equipment, Rome had a nice river (which made seiges difficult), and was full of angry romans. it took the romans 80000+ men, and 3 years to take Carthage (as signifcanlty weaker city)

Total wrong analysis of Hannibal. Actually, Hannibal was unsuccessful due to his own countrymen. Hanno, a competitor of Barca family and an influential Senator of Carthage, was the main reason of Hannibal's defeat. Hanno deliberately delayed and tried to stop assistance from Carthage to Hannibal as much as possible. If those were sent to Hannibal in due time, Hannibal will be able to defeat Rome. Most probably the untrained elephants, which was the main cause of defeat of Hannibal were the part of conspiracy. At least, at that time, mainland Carthaginian army must have many well trained elephants in their store.

Hannibal's biggest mistake, was not reforming the north of Italy, into a gallic state. Could have tried to give etruscans independence too. Divide and conquer.

@kaptenlemper

4 жыл бұрын

He should also have applied scorched earth tactics the moment he realized his troops were insufficient to take on Rome.

@user-ec5oc6pu6g

4 жыл бұрын

@@kaptenlemper He did, the burned to the ground the richest valley in Italy. Forgot the name, maybe Po valley. It wasn't enough, he was outnumbered big time.

@user-ec5oc6pu6g

4 жыл бұрын

@@kaptenlemper Just to put in perspective, over the 14 or so years of fighting in Italy, Hannibal put 500k Roman men into the ground...

@Crafty_Spirit

3 жыл бұрын

That is the most interesting scenario I read below this video :)

@user-ec5oc6pu6g

3 жыл бұрын

@@Crafty_Spirit Ty)

At this stage the Romans did not have full time professional armies like during the Empire. They were Citizens who fought when called upon and returned to their true occupations after the conflict.

@jl9211

4 жыл бұрын

People overlook this to paint Rome as muh ebil umpire. Most of the land we associate with the Roman empire was conquered by a self-armed, communally trained militia.

*How can Hannibal ever be consider a great leader, Hannibal was probably told years ahead by his spies, before he left Carthage that Rome, has massive walls and you will need siege weapons to invade Romes capital, but Hannibal was like, like lets invade anyway with no plans to take down the walls of the Capital.*

Carthage was an impressive Empire of a City-state but Rome was a Republic centered around a City. In the long run Rome won the war of Attrition through it's citizen armies that no mercenary could match.

Hannibal's legacy is a game, he is proud

8:10 *wild Oscar Isaac appears*

11:26 The Slingers have a deadly worm reaching out of their left eye reaching out for the enemy