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He'll be fine. Its so obvious how good his bat skills are just from watching him. This game is mental, I believe he's not comfortable right now and is trying to make adjustments for stuff that doesn't need adjusting.

@MattKrack

6 ай бұрын

agreed. he's got a lot more pressure than the usual (looks at Pops, lovingly) the title of this is a little overboard. He'll figure it out.

@warlordofbritannia

6 ай бұрын

He's been "adjusting" for four out of five major league seasons.

@greatloverofmusic1

6 ай бұрын

@@warlordofbritannia All the while performing above league average in his early 20s.

@marianorivera3272

6 ай бұрын

This is exactly what I've been telling people around me; even "bad" Guerrero is actually a good hitter when you look at him objectively. I'm honestly not worried about him. He knows he can be better and I'm confident he and the team will perform better next year since basically everyone had below career average years at the plate except Bo Bichette. I think Chapman will be moved and Biggio will be the starting 3rd basemen with a break-out year at the plate. He has talent and has been having very good at-bats at the end of last season. He's showing a lot of maturity at the plate and I think the only thing he needs to break out is to play every day.@@greatloverofmusic1

@MattKrack

6 ай бұрын

@@warlordofbritannia technically every player every season, game, at-bat, pitch, adjusts. You say it like it's a negative thing. Go out there and give it a go, chap ;)

I think another to note is that the Jays got rid of all of his protection in the line-up during the offseason.

Dude is still batting .260 and nearly hitting 100 rbis that's better than a lot of scrubs playing today. He would start on every team still today so ya he is fine

@kanajingly8957

5 ай бұрын

Exactly. A brutal decline is something more along the lines of Richard Hidalgo with a 1.028OPS with 44 home runs to hitting .235 with 15 home runs 2 seasons later. Or Brady Anderson hitting 50 home runs .297 average to 18 home runs and .236 average 2 seasons later.

@cjcable6995

3 ай бұрын

He wouldn't start on 2 other AL East teams alone (Red Sox with Casas and Rays with Diaz). Rizzo was also better than him in the part of the season he played healthy. That doesn't include teams like the Mets, Phillies, Braves, Cardinals, Guardians, possibly Tigers and Royals depending on what steps we see from Tork and Vinnie, Rangers, Dodgers, or Dbacks. All of those teams probably feel better with their 1B spot that Vlad right now. In 2 years when he is a FA and if he gets back to what he is supposed to, then it will be different. But right now, I think all of those teams feel fine saying no to switching their guy with Vlad.

@sir.muffiniii7011

Ай бұрын

@@cjcable6995he would DH for half of them lol

All the talent in the world to crush plenty of bombs, drive in a lot of runs, and bat near .300. he had a .405 OBP in 2021. He’s truly a big time talent when he’s on. Lot of years left for him

What a ridiculous video. Vladimir Guerrero Jr is only 24 years old!!!!! How can you name a video a brutal decline when the MLB player career is still in it's infancy!? Guerrero Jr still made all star still cracked 26 homers with .264/.345/444 line. The Blue Jays also lost Marcus Semien who was good protection in the lineup for Guerrero Jr. The dude is still only 24 year old. Wait another 3 years before you call his decline.

@lennoxleader695

19 күн бұрын

Not aging well

@wraynephew6838

19 күн бұрын

@@lennoxleader695 The season is not even one month old. I love to hear the reactionaries react

This goes to show how hard it is to maintain a level of consistency that lives up to the hype built around a prospect like him. It's why Ken Griffey Jr. is my all-time favorite player. He came into the league with massive hype as the #1 draft pick, carrying his father's name, actually playing with his dad and he lived up to all the expectations and then some. One of the most gifted players ever both at the box and in the outfield.

@SailBoatJones

6 ай бұрын

Kind of like Lebron James. But this goes to show how hard it is to maintain a level of conisistency at a MLB level.

@youngf.l.y.1467

6 ай бұрын

Orrrrr Barry Bonds lmao

As a Jays fan, it’s been hard to watch our should be mvp candidate struggle. He’s also such a nice guy irl very kind and never rejects a fan for a picture or autograph

Could you do a video on Kyle Tucker? He had an amazing regular season in 2023 and then was absolutely out of it in the post season somehow hitting worse than the catcher Maldonado.

Why must you emphasizes the last word in every SENTENCE !!!!!😂😂 great vid though I just couldn’t stop hearing it

every sentence you speak ends with a downward pitch bend, its ridiculous

There is no brutal decline. He'll be 25 next year. He had an OPS+ of 133 last year, I'd hardly say that's declining and more so just a young hitter finding his way in the bigs. But you got me taking the bait and commenting on the video so good job.

@greatloverofmusic1

6 ай бұрын

You took the words right out of my mouth.

@warlordofbritannia

6 ай бұрын

He had an OPS+ of 117

@greatloverofmusic1

6 ай бұрын

@@warlordofbritannia True, but the spirit of the argument is still valid.

@warlordofbritannia

6 ай бұрын

@@greatloverofmusic1 Not really--going from 167 to 117 in two years is a pretty big decline.

@greatloverofmusic1

6 ай бұрын

@@warlordofbritannia Typical young player variance. He's hasn't entered his "prime years". The title Brutal Decline is a bit of a stretch. No?

He needs to mature. Coaching and management is major problem for the jays and it ain’t helping Vlad at all

@atomicgiraffe250

6 ай бұрын

He needs to run his mouth less and stop giving other teams bulletin board material.

@warlordofbritannia

6 ай бұрын

Losing 30 pounds would help too

@Andrew-nu4hi

6 ай бұрын

@@warlordofbritanniaI’d consider that a part of maturing. Being mature is being in control of your weight and clearly Vlad can’t

@a17yearoldonyoutubeluigi

6 ай бұрын

@@atomicgiraffe250well what do you expect when a player is spoiled to hell and back by an evil corporation.

@austinchen283

6 ай бұрын

His coaches were Guillermo Martinez and Dave Hudgens. The only types of players who succeeded under that were spray hitters that hit for an average. Once we get an actual hitting coach and strategist he'll be fine.

He hasn't declined. His BABIP is around 25 points lower, over the last two years, than the average of all hitters. In essence his batting average should have been around .300 for 3 straight seasons. His K and FB rates are relatively the same as his best year. He has just had some bad luck.

@warlordofbritannia

6 ай бұрын

His groundball rate is over 50 3/5 years, and the difference between this year and 2021 is that his hard hit rate is down.

@SAMTIMP

6 ай бұрын

@@warlordofbritannia Player A. PA: 601, GB - Out: 159, Poor/Weak Contact%: 5.3, Barrel %: 9.6 Player B. PA: 682, GB - Out: 178, Poor/Weak Contact%: 3.8, Barrel %: 11.1 Player A: Bo Bichette Player B: Vlad G Jr The point is ground balls aren't the end of the world (Bo's .820 OPS demonstrates this) and the hard-hit rate may be down but finding the barrel is what matters. His underline metrics are not that bad, they are actually above average. He is 24 and will put together some great seasons in the future.

@billyskittles1036

6 ай бұрын

Yes, he has declined. Open your eyes.

@dmitryayers403

5 ай бұрын

There is no way you can call him getting picked off at 2nd in the playoffs "bad luck".

Done-ee-din

I've been waiting for a video of Vlad like this. Keep up the amazing work!

Players have down seasons and slow beginnings. Who knows about the future

Vlad Jr. is by no means a small dude, but at 6-2, i dont believe he was ever near 300lbs.

It’s because of his weight. The pitch clock is exposing the big guys

@vicckyyy2001

6 ай бұрын

No it's not. He was doing better when he was heavier.

Let's just shovel dirt on a 24 year old kid's career. His '23 K & BB % were better than '22 and his BABIP was 10-15 points lower than his career norms. Jeez.

@warlordofbritannia

6 ай бұрын

Well, unless something big changes you can predict quite easily what his career is going to look like--about two-thirds of Kent Hrbek

@greatloverofmusic1

6 ай бұрын

@@warlordofbritannia I don't think he needs to make big changes. He is still quite young. If does settle in as less-than-expected, he'll be more like=100% Kent Hrbek. And that ain't bad.

@kanajingly8957

5 ай бұрын

This is unfortunately the annoying youtuber generation, where nobody needs to be qualified to voice an uninformed opinion and influence countless millions of other viewers to become dumber, all for the sake of their channel growing in popularity.

@greatloverofmusic1

5 ай бұрын

@kanajingly8957 That's why people like us need to call B.S. when we see it.

@kanajingly8957

5 ай бұрын

@@greatloverofmusic1 I agree.

The entire team slumped big time with hitting, they need new coaches. The derby showed he's still got the pop, I think it's a mental thing more than anything

I like this channel, but this video doesn’t need to exist. Vlad Jr. is 24. Sometimes a guy slumps for a few years once the League scouting report gets around, and they haven’t matured past it yet.

If he loses some weight and the jays get new hitting coaches he will be fine

@CCDaDon15

6 ай бұрын

He's already lost a lot of weight since his debut. That's not the issue. In fact weight loss is actually something that contributed to the problem a bit because it's changed the base of his swing and he is struggling to find the perfect adjustment in his mechanics to account for it.

@vicckyyy2001

6 ай бұрын

​@@CCDaDon15well said. If he's been losing weight and not doing so well then maybe he was better being a little bigger

Settle down. He's 24.

@vicckyyy2001

6 ай бұрын

Exactly my thoughts. Dude just needed a video idea.

I think they jays have a bit of a culture problem in the locker room. Some guys don’t want to put in the work. I think this is what happened to both Vladdy and Manoah, they didn’t put in the work over the last couple of off seasons and it’s showing on the field.

@CB-vt3mx

6 ай бұрын

The real work they need to put in is the "push away". They need to "push away" from the dang table and lose weight. 10 pounds can greatly affect performance at that level...

i miss Guerrero jr doing his best i hope he gets out of this funk

@kanajingly8957

5 ай бұрын

Usually with gifted hitters such as him, sometimes all it takes is just a good hitting coach to re-adjust their approach at the plate. We saw Hideki MAtsui for example simply lift his left elbow up slightly so he would no longer get jammed on inside pitches. I haven't really followed Vlady Jr.'s games much but I am sure a re-adjustment at the plate may be all it takes for him to get back to elite level production. Also he has not undergone any kind of brutal decline. Plus he is still 24 years old, and baseball is a game of ups and downs with lots of learning lessons.

Imagine spending your entire life in the MLB in the U.S. and Canada.....then having a kid that you know from the time they're about 5 that they're also going to play in the MLB.....and still....NEVER....EVER......even consider teaching them English.

Vladdy's mom, the matriarch of their family, has been very ill and that played a major part of last season's anomaly. He will be a Triple Crown threat for the next 10 years.

You described a guy that had 26 hr, 94 rbi, and 159 hits last season, as a marginally above average hitter. I would like to see what the "average hitter" put up last year.

It’s pronounced dun EE din, not dooned-in…

Maybe I'm just being ignorant, simplistic, in thinking maybe we may witness progression, an evolution into the next level, if we saw a Vlad Jr. who got into better physical shape. He is too young to look like Miguel Cabrera in his 40's. If he was better conditioned physically it could show the world that he has a new-found dedication to his profession. And with that dedication, a new passion, the crafting of the mental skill-set & knowledge to succeed at a higher level would probably soon follow.

@warlordofbritannia

6 ай бұрын

"He is too young to look like Miguel Cabrera in his 40's." That's the whole issue a single phrase. He may be 25, but he profiles as someone at least 30.

Wait, WTF was that pronunciation of Dunedin? You're saying "done-din"???? It sounds like "done-eden"

In the 2022 wild card series when the Blue Jays blew the lead against the mariners, I remember the camera cutting to Vlad looking all sad in the dugout…while the game was tied. And he just failed to show up in the postseason again. He’s a good player, but he’s not a winner. Doesn’t quite have that killer instinct.

@SAMTIMP

6 ай бұрын

dude is 24 he will be back

@joshdelagarza231

6 ай бұрын

@SAMTIMP back to what? Shitting his pants in the postseason?

@kidcrumpet3333

6 ай бұрын

@@joshdelagarza231he’s 24 relax

@vierky1

6 ай бұрын

@@joshdelagarza231he’s been to the postseason like twice, and they never play more than a few games in every post season he ain’t got shit to judge

@joshdelagarza231

6 ай бұрын

@matteo-vd5iz Nothin but excuses. Evan Carter from the Rangers debuted like 2 weeks before the postseason and did more in 1 wild card game than Vladdy Jrs ever done.

On top of every point you mentioned, do you think it’s been impacted by the change in mlb baseballs over the years? I’ve seen a lot of people speak about how it’s affected the homerun numbers over the years

Well done video! Great research and editing. Really loved it. Just gotta say though, Vlad still is legit. No way you can count him out yet.

As with Cecil and Prince Fielder, Vlad Jr.’s weight will relegate him to DH duties.

Bro,I respect you immensely,you work hard on your content,and you do great research,but I have a question.. Why do you accentuate the last word of every sentence you speak? I'm just asking if that's a particular broadcasting technique that is used. Is it to keep rhythm of your speech steady? I promise I'm not a troll and this is not a criticism of your style,but I've watched enough of your videos to notice that this is the way you speak,and I'm curious. (Also a broadcast background here as well)

I’d really like to see a vid on Wil Myers formerly of the rays he was a big contributor to their playoff runs in the 2010s before he got traded then he was gone like a 👻

Yea he really killed it in DUN DIN🤣🤣

Could you do a video on bartolo colon? Just how crazy and funny the story of his career is

@UBERHAYTER

6 ай бұрын

there’s a really good video from Baseball Doesn’t Exist on him

Didn't Cody bellinger have a resurgent year after one of these? Buy your Guerrero stock.

He’s not even in his prime, decline is a crazy word

I got a question do baseball players prime end quicker than NBA & NFL players

How Guerrero responds next season will tell a great deal about the trajectory his career will take. Baseball is a game of adjustments, after all. As a Yankee fan, let's look at Judge and Sanchez. Judge came up and sucked hitting a pathetic .173. He made radical changes and has been dominant, when healthy, ever since. He continues to improve, especially in his plate discipline. Sanchez, on the other hand, blazed out of the gate, but once pitchers made the adjustment he fell behind and could never himself readjust. Guerrero is in the same boat and we'll have to see how he responds.

Something to keep in mind is that his 2021 production was inflated by playing a good chunk of the season in minor league ballparks with very hitter friendly dimensions. Those inflated numbers may have given a false impression of what his true normal level of production would be going forward. Vlad 2021 Splits: Overall in non-MLB stadiums: .364/.469/.827 (1.296 OPS) 21 HR in 44 games. Overall in MLB stadiums: .291/.375/.518 (.893 OPS) 27 HR in 117 games. He had about a 37 HR pace in MLB ballparks, but his 77 HR pace in minor league parks brought his season total to 48 and raised his OPS by over 100 points. It is not fair to expect 2021 level production from him when he was only able to achieve that thanks to playing a quarter of his games in very hitter friendly minor league parks. Vlad needs to be recognized for the hitter he is not and criticized for failing to live up to unrealistic expectations.

@eatmynuts2946

5 ай бұрын

if you watched him hit it didnt really matter what ballpark he was in he launced them 450

@tupacalypse88

4 ай бұрын

good answere

This sounded like one very long run-on sentence.

Kinda started his offense career at the plate similar to Bryce Harper - the walks. Great bat to ball skills and power nonetheless. When he starts to draw more walks he’ll get better pitches to hit

Im marking it now - This video will not age well

To be honest I think the entire Blue Jays core is a bit overhyped. They always lose 1st round of playoffs

Bro keep doin these vids hope they actual mlb players see these and take heed and play better man

@MalikBaker-qs4jq

6 ай бұрын

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Hey man, don't take this the wrong way. Interesting video. I watched it all no problem. But once I noticed you were putting same accent on every sentence, it became very hard to focus.

doondin

Well i was interested until that interrupted sponsor. Gotta do that at the start. Not get into the subject THEN do it.

Doon din? It’s dun E din

"Brutal decline". He had a 133 WRC+ this year....

@8.-.3

6 ай бұрын

No one knows what that means

@matthewcooper6191

6 ай бұрын

@@8.-.3 "because I don't know what that means, it must be irrelevant" -you

@8.-.3

6 ай бұрын

@matthewcooper6191 weighted runs created is a garbage time stat

Hey, he will bounce back. The stats showed he was just unlucky

Living under your dad's shadow is tons of pressure

Some of his “decline” could just be the inherent randomness of baseball… it’s a long season and a mentally exhausting game. He could’ve been playing through injuries or any number of different things; he’s still a young kid with the time to still put it all together

Vladdie ain't going nowhere! Jays just gotta put it all together in a very tough division.

He is having the same trajectory as Harper. He will figure it out

That's the threshold for "brutal" decline? What adjective do you use for Javy Baez's decline? His launch angle has always been rough. He just needs to stop hitting hard grounders when he's a below average runner at best. He'll be fine.

Next year will be big for him :) he’ll figure it out. Let’s go vlad!

He's like 24, give him a break

I heard he hates the Yankees, as a Yankees fan, I love this video! 🤣

His decline is more than likely a mix of immaturity, egotism, bad mechanics, bad management and bad coaching. Side note: Dunedin is pronounced “Dunn-EE-dinn.”

Hate to be that guy but it's "Done-e-din" not "Dune-din" Great video tho!! love ur content

Knowing employees from the inside of the organizations management, from what they tell me he has to many ppl in his ears telling him how to get his game back.

I live for it!!! Bhahahha

No Matter how "Blue Chip" the Prospect, some will always have a very short peak then never reach it again. Vlad Jr is just Kung Fu Panda reskinned with a famous name

Wassup MTC

At 12:15 he said "red herring" when he meant "smoking gun"

See what happens when you go for homers every swing? So much for egghead analytics.

I wouldn't call this a brutal decline. Dude is only 24 or 25. A lot of baseball greats have a couple lackluster years before they ramp up into phenoms in their later 20's. He has a lot of time ahead, he just needs to master his fundamentals a bit more and stop focusing on the power hitting so much and he'll be fine.

You seem to jump the gun to much, im not a jays fan and i think he will be fine hes still crazy young and needs to mature the jays need new coaching

The Blue Jays' single A affiliate is pronounced Done-ee-din, not Dune-din.

He will bounce back. He Just had one down year.

If there is one thing I hate it’s Canadian fans. Worst game I’ve ever been to is. This year tigers vs Blue jays

Hes still putting better numbers than 3/4 of mob players lol. Its not a decline he just isnt having s crazy season like he was before. Hes also still young

The mark of true blue quality...often imitated, never equalled...say it with me...MTC!

His 2021 season was an outlier. If you compare the other 4 season, his numbers are nearly identical and he hasn't declined or improved at all.

in 2021 i thought Jr was a sure thing all time great hitter, i do not watch MLB so i do not know what happened... fax!!!

I still believe in Vladdy. His bat to ball skills are still elite. The real cause for concern is his plate discipline has decline each year since 2021. As well as having no real approach at the plate.

To call a 26-homer, 30-double, 94-RBI season a “brutal decline” is about the dumbest thing I’ve heard in months. Did you expect him to just hit 50 homers and produce a 7.0 WAR every year of his career until he turned 40?

@swisscheese6456

6 ай бұрын

No but you also don’t expect the most hyped international prospect of the decade be a slightly above average player do you

@SAMTIMP

6 ай бұрын

I saw the thumbnail for this vid pulled up his baseball reference page and went straight to the comments looking for something along these lines. Thank you for stoping the spread of misinformation. Hopefully people understand he is 24 and has been an above league average hitter every year with many more great years ahead of him

@SAMTIMP

6 ай бұрын

@@swisscheese6456 Yoan Moncada has entered the chat

@markwalton5978

6 ай бұрын

@@SAMTIMPburn 🔥

@mustardtigerbaaaaaam

6 ай бұрын

Thanks man. Was thinking the same thing

Yeah, it's way way way too early to make a video like this... As you said, he's 24 years old. Most rookies aren't 24 years old, and he already has 5 years under his belt. He'll be fine..

Who the heck is saying that the blue jays will get rid of him 😂😂😂

You do know he was an all star this year for the third consecutive year, right?

this video seems to be entirely reseached from the blue jays reddIT. that place is the biggest pit of armchair expert doomsaYERS. going from mvp level to above average is not a "brutal decLINE". there's as many examples of up, dow, up up up trajectories as there is otherwISE. and DOONDIN? makes me think all the research you did was via reading comments from miserable jays fANS.

Love your content but I can’t help but notice your voice inflection always going up and down…..up….and down lol

@iluvtv2

4 ай бұрын

Once you notice it, it almost becomes unwatchable.

@BearRockets

4 ай бұрын

@@iluvtv2 I’m glad somebody else noticed lol

@Ibhenriksen

4 ай бұрын

It's who he is guys. Gotta deal with it.

Why you say sluggish at third when hes only started 94 games at third all in his rookie year before the "brutal decline"

I think it’s too soon to say he’s declining. I can see him coming back with 40+ HR and batting 290 shit happens. He’s young

Dunedin is pronounced “dun-E-din”, not “dune-din”.

LOL, the guy's hitting .194...he's killing his team. He's just a weak shadow of his father. Money killed him.

...hot take much? How about Richie Sexson? Jason Bay? Chris Carter, Khris & Chris Davis, Dallas Keuchel, Patrick Corbin, hell even Miguel Cabrera? C'mon bro, you're better than this.

He's an overweight DH. He has no fielding skills at any position, so release him from the pressures of displaying his inadequacies and have him focus on on eating healthier, training (cause he still can't run) and batting technique.

This is such a strange take, he had one good year, and we are saying he brutally declined?

Not trying to body shame Vlad Jr but his weight is going to be a problem. People don't get lighter as they progress through their 20s. He needs to be mindful of his body health. This was a concern for Cabrera early in his career and he managed to keep his body in enough shape to play 20+ years and is a lock for the HOF.

Give him a couple years....see what happens....it's not like he's bottomed out.

Don’t put Rhys in there cmon now he’s hit 30 homers almost every year and has led the league in walks 1 or 2 times and has some huge playoff homers

Clickbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait.

To me, Bichette is the face of that franchise

@warlordofbritannia

6 ай бұрын

Bichette's K/BB ratio gives me a heart attack. It's Baez-esque