The emperor metalix is definitely a reference to the final boss of chaotix. He first appears in the stc adaptation of the game.

@JohnnyVector

2 жыл бұрын

Good point. I guess the Brotherhood storyline was actually an adaption of Knuckles' Chaotix.

@simplyhoodie

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyVector I assume they based the stakes off the bad ending of that game. Where the big, red Metal Sonic is destroying the city.

@decerdoge6713

Жыл бұрын

yes

@LightOutOFStock

Жыл бұрын

I Always Thought About That Guess It's a nod to a bad ending from the game

Metallix was one of STC's best decisions. I've always liked the idea of Metal Sonic evolving beyond the limitations of what Eggman could do. For me it was like the way Shockwave was presented in the Transformers comics: A frighteningly competent and well-composed figure who was arguably scarier than Megatron, and had none of ol' Buckethead's rapidly growing instability. Eggman is a very flawed character, he always has been. His ego and short-sightedness often eclipse his intellect and he'll quite regularly sow the seeds of his own downfall. Whether it's the Game Eggman's self-defeating lack of forethought or Archie Eggman's exaggerated cruelty and belief in his own hype, or IDW Eggman's... all of the above, Eggman's weaknesses are rather apparent. He's a very... emotional character. So having Metal Sonic as a counterpoint to that really works for me. He's cold, calm, calculated, there's no nonsense when he shows up, no boss mechs with giant glowing weak spots or weapons that do just as much damage to Eggman himself as they do to Sonic, every fight with him is a struggle to _survive,_ because unlike basically every other antagonist, Metal is Sonic's outright superior. He's faster, stronger, he can fly and use a wide variety of energy weapons, and it's all contained within a metal body that is itself an inherent advantage. The Brotherhood of the Metallix are the apex of that idea, and it's kinda disappointing to see modern media so rarely ever get close to the idea. Modern Metal as the silent, loyal servant of his creator is just so... boring.

@spider-soniczilla2989

2 жыл бұрын

Ya, I missed when Metal Sonic was an opposing villain, not some jober. Pre Unleashed Metal is my favorite villain.

@GIRru11

2 жыл бұрын

Sonic Heroes does it pretty well too. Every group had to go on an adventure that relates to Eggman in some way like challenging Sonic to fight him, or Amy's team trying to find their missing friends. Only for the Chaotix to find out that Eggman has actually been held captive by Metal Sonic who was manipulating everyone so he can analyze their data to be able to defeat them all

@LupinticDream

2 жыл бұрын

IDW Metal Sonic isn't so bad. Yeah, he's loyal to Eggman, but during that first story arc he still has a certain level of autonomy and own personal thoughts not too unlike how he was in Sonic Heroes. I very much would like to see that sort of Metal Sonic again in IDW or the games down the line; A mechanized rival for Sonic that is ever so loyal to the Doctor but is still capable of speaking for themselves, along with possessing a sense of ingenuity when it comes to their approach.

@spider-soniczilla2989

2 жыл бұрын

@@LupinticDream Like I said, pre unleash metal, that version can work well, bit they don't treat him like a threat anymore, he just another Eggman badnick.

@nobodyatall1979

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Combine this with Movie Shadow instead of Metal and you see how little Sega care for this great character.

The thing I love about the Brotherhood is that expand the concept of Metal Sonic of being a superior Sonic. Even predates Metal Sonic becomes the main villain on Sonic Heroes.

@gracekim25

2 жыл бұрын

OH cool

@zephon6745

2 жыл бұрын

They first appeared during the Knuckles Chaotix storyline

We always like the idea of Brotherhood of Metallix. Like the idea of a cult like group made entirely of robots always was a cool idea to us. We also always like the design of the Emperor Metallix, it take design from Metal Sonic Kai but makes it it's own.

@JohnnyVector

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, less monstrous than Kai but still intimidating.

The Fleetway comics were before my time so it’s interesting watching your videos and learning what Sonic was like when you were a kid

@JohnnyVector

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, glad I can help to introduce you to them.

@zephon6745

2 жыл бұрын

In a word Sonic was a jerk.

@silverthecatastrophic5270

2 жыл бұрын

@@zephon6745 He developed over time

@zephon6745

2 жыл бұрын

@@silverthecatastrophic5270 True

I remember browsing early Internet forums and seeing Metal Sonic referred to as "Metallix". I called him by this for YEARS thinking it was his "official" name. I guess this is why!

@peytonmac1131

Жыл бұрын

I'm still confused by which is which.

@GinraiPrime666

Жыл бұрын

Hell I STILL call him Metallix! At the very least its an actual name!

The Brotherhood of Metallix is clearly inspired by the Daleks. And I love it.

I really like mettalix, he looks like a bad guy you wouldn't wanna mess with. Also the fact that he is red instead of blue makes him stand out even more, I'm glad they brought back the concept for sonic mania's metal sonic 1st fight.

@JohnnyVector

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the Sonic Mania nod is really cool

They really didn't know how to draw Sonics back spikes. Kinda charming!

@JohnnyVector

2 жыл бұрын

Haha yeah. Any view from the rear looks horrendous but they gave it a go!

2:39 I always imagined Metal Sonic sounding like that robotic text to speech voice which was heard in Sonic CD's Japanese Metallic Madness Bad Future music track which you actually used in this video. The more I learn about the Fleetway comics the more I realize that you Britain's got a much better comic adaptation than the American Archie comic. It stuck much closer to the game elements and the art was a lot more consistent and much better in my opinion. Sonic's snark was also rather abrasive yet funny at the same time. 3:52 He called Amy a professional hostage when she was kidnapped again 😆

@zephon6745

2 жыл бұрын

It was the third time she used as a hostage. The first time when she said she was Sonic's girlfriend lead to her having to join the Freedom Fighters. The second time she was kidnapped by Sky Pirates till she managed to convince the Sky Pirate Captain Plunder and Sonic that it was better to work with each other against Robotnik.

I always loved Mecha Sonic as a character and sewing fleetway gave him a badass story makes me happy af!! So glad I could see Metallix from SMBZ in this video too!! he alongside Nazo are my fave Sonic villains even if they are not official 🤩

I was literally thinking about this in my mind, this was amazing to hear. I just like the way how the brotherhood of Metallix is presented so well in the comics.

I always love these STC videos they give me so much nostalgia & you really do a great job documenting the comic's obscure characters and stories ( I was so happy to see Turbo referenced in the last video). My favorite Sonic character is Metal Sonic (But he'll always be Metallix to me) lol!

@JohnnyVector

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot! Glad you're enjoying the Fleetway videos.

@Howlabunga

2 жыл бұрын

same

Sorry for being a bit late. I always loved the metallix and how they made him and the brotherhood such a big deal. It is way better than the way he is treated nowadays, only being included as a fan favourite and therefore has slowly lost his impact. Great video as usual

I did not know about this story arc since i haven't even read fleetway Sonic but this video kept me intrigued and interested about the Metallix brotherhood, i love how fleetway included both the good future and the bad future of the Sonic CD game in ONE arc, it totally makes sense during the story and also it gives a purpose to little planet always coming back every month/few months in canon, the only time a Sonic media ever acknowledged that fact was Sonic 4 Episode 2

@JohnnyVector

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah good point. I'm not an Archie expert and I wonder how Archie adapted Sonic CD? I'll have to see how it compares.

@hydrorobot6610

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyVector Maybe you can make a video about how Sonic CD influenced other media like in the comics? It would be an interesting video for sure, but for now, the fleetway videos are so good and interesting!

I think it’d be interesting to do a video on the two Cybernik characters. Those being Shortfuse and Vermin.

@JohnnyVector

2 жыл бұрын

Good call. A lot of people want to see Shortfuse covered but Vermin would be great too.

I also like the fact that Alvin earthworm made metalix look like the the fleet way version with a little bit of modification

Love hearing you rant and rave about everything sonic. I was big into the lore growing up but never knew about fleetway until recently

@JohnnyVector

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, good stuff, glad I can share this stuff with you.

I’d love to see 2 separate videos all about Johnny Lightfoot and Porker Lewis. (One of each character) since they where main characters of the comic from what you’ve shown so far.

@JohnnyVector

2 жыл бұрын

Good idea. I think they both need a reputational boost.

Sonic time travels Metal Sonic: Hey that's illegal bro! The Flash, Liu Kang, Link, McFly: That's our boy 😎

Even the writers were confused with the Sonic Terminator time travel.

@JohnnyVector

2 жыл бұрын

Haha yeah, best not to think too far about it.

Emperor Metallix, the Brotherhood and their conversion of the Miracle planet is one of those things that stuck with me creatively well into adulthood. Oh poor Porker.

I imagine he sounds like Neo Metal Sonic in Sonic Heroes. Ryan Drummond's performance will always be the voice I hear when I imagine Metal Sonic speaking

I’ve been looking forward to this one, hats off to you on doing a great job covering the legion of rogue robots inspired by the Daleks. -James M

@JohnnyVector

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad you liked it.

@59rlmccormack

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyVector No problem, sir. I look forward to seeing you cover the shapeshifting Badnik Metamorphia next.

Emperor Metallix: I need name for my brotherhood... robots are made of steel so... Brotherhood of Stee- Arch Dornan: *cracks power armor covered knuckles* Emperor Metallix: BROTHERHOOD OF METALLIX! YEP! BROTHERHOOD OF METALLIX THATS IT!

@thelegendmaster3935

10 ай бұрын

Get out drill sergeant The Enclave is dead and rotting of remnants

@DrLiam-fg6wd

10 ай бұрын

@@thelegendmaster3935 not if I have anything to say about it and I do, I'm going to write a fanfiction! "MRS.OBAMA GET DOWN" Enclave is alive.

@thelegendmaster3935

10 ай бұрын

@DrLiam-fg6wd "Laughs in Chosen One And Lone Wonder AKA Fallout 2 and 3 Via NCR and B.O.S It can rot to the shadow of it's former self

Very cool! I love the artwork of those comics. I especially love Sonic’s running animation. Thanks for sharing!

To this day that panel of Sonic and Metallix tearing up the environment while Amy tries to watch is one of my favourite comic scenes. Art is fantastic and the energy it gives of was like nothing I'd ever seen at the time. Nothing really came close until years later when we finally got Dragon Ball Z here in the UK.

As a side note I feel Amy really comes into her own after she meets Tekno the Canary.

I recently blasted through the fleetway comics for the first time, and yes it was because of fleetway super sonic from the fnf mod, and this storyline had me losing my mind. Every page i was going WHAT? WHAT?!?!? It was truly a wild ride and super cool. When i read in the encylo-speed-ia that the metal sonic fight was inspired by the arc, it made me so happy to see!! Also as any characters itd be cool for you to cover, it'd be awesome if you could cover Tekno? Especially since Nigel Kitsching gave her and amy a romantic ending via an epilogue for sonic the comic online. It really put Tekno and Amy's adventures into a new light for me, and itd be awesome to see that talked about. Tekno might be my favorite sonic comic character, only tied with tangle and whisper.

The converted Miracle Planet reminds me of Apocalypse, the home world of Darkseid from DC comics; those fire pits are one its most defining traits. It looks like Fleetway's team drew inspiration from comic history from both sides of the pond

That trivia at the end tells me you were also at Weston Super Sonic two weeks ago :) It was great to hear Rich and Nige talking about the comic.

Let's gooo I'm always so happy when you upload

13:51 Planet Hulk came first. 17:26 that's the remake of Super Mario Brothers Z

You should do a video on Metamorphia. You've mentioned her briefly before but you never went into detail too much. She might not have a big impact or following but I always liked her cause she's one of the more unique reoccurring characters. (Also awesome video as usual. Had the feeling you'd do Emperor Metallix eventually)

Great video! Would you also make a video about Enerjak? I think he’s a pretty sick villain of Archie comics.

Personally when I think of Metal Sonic's voice I believe he's either mute,or has a cryptic tts voice,but no voice that just has a robotic effect,so not like gamma's voice in Sonic X

I've been looking forward to this topic

Lived these comics growing up. I still refer to metal sonic as metallix even today

It’s important to note that the Metallix seen in Super Mario Bros. Z is functionally just Turbo Mecha Sonic. I assume the change was made because the sprite used fits the reboot’s better animation more than the Mecha Sonic sprite.

Over in USA metalix got translated as a fan form of mecha sonic

The Brotherhood may have been inspired by the Daleks but damn, they where FAR MORE SCARY than them, mainly because they didnt look like fecking pepper grinders!! :D

@JohnnyVector

2 жыл бұрын

Haha yeah. I'm not really a Doctor Who fan because most of the villains look downright ridiculous.

@TheAuron32

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyVector used to love it but Daleks never scared me lol Cybermen however, yeah they’re scary

thank you for doing this video

@JohnnyVector

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it

What on earth did the Brotherhood do to Porker Lewis while he was trapped with them for a month on the Miracle Planet.

@JohnnyVector

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, it was a rough month.

I love hearing about the STC comics I read as a kid. Any chance Johnny Vector that you would do a video on Johnny Lightfoot or the other Freedom Fighters like Amy, Tails, Porker, Shorty/Shortfuse, Tekno or Sonic.

British comic, a machine that travels through time and soace, evil cult of destruction obessed robot army who shout exterminate. The Brotherhood if Metalix😊 is a giant Dr.Who reference!

17:37 oh, he definitely is. He used to be called mecha sonic but now he's even made to look like metallix from the s3 story

I still have my drawing of that metalix knuckles. i must have been about 8 yrs old. i thought it was the coolest thing ever! Watching these is like a flashback to my childhood. loving it

Because I love SMBZ I just imagin his voice is similar to coolers with a metallic hugh

Kinda early but late sorry about that but I love your videos keep up the good work

I'd love to see something on Shortfuse the Cybernik, one of my favourite characters in the comic

As cool as they are, I can’t help but hear there voices sounding something similar to daleks lol.

You know there's somethings from fleetway I want in game This is one of them Imagine the Brotherhood at the metallics as a final boss

@JohnnyVector

2 жыл бұрын

They've toyed with the idea a couple of times, like with the final boss of Sonic Heroes, but I prefer the look of Emperor Metallix to the more monstrous Metal transformations SEGA have given us.

@Bookworm374

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyVector with me I don't care about designs as long as game play and writing is good am fine But i understand your point

So Emperor Metallix is the boss I didn't recognize in Sonic Time twisted. Very interesting.

Thanks for making me sad I didn't read this lmao. Jokes aside I just love how you explain this. It's so interesting and makes me want to buy Fleetway Comics off of anything I can get my hands on. Then again I could only get my hands on Archie, even though I'm british. That's how harsh 2022 is. 💀

@gracekim25

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I don’t know how to get fleetest comics either😅

I don't know what happened to all my sonic the comic, but i did read all the issues with the Brotherhood Of Metallix. I did just find an old issue with King Sonic recently, but it's in rough condition.

Emperor Metallix reminds me a bit of the emperor of man from Warhammer 40K, cuz of the similar thrones

The fleetway comics are my favourite to be honest

@zephon6745

2 жыл бұрын

Mine too

i think that metal sonic had a evil deep voice

Hey is there a website where I can read Fleetway comics, or do I need to scour dubious shopping sites to find physical issues?

That's Special "Zone", not "Stage". :3 Always great to hear about these stories from my childhood. Used to have every single issue.

Let be real Metallix is a pretty *METAL* Name for metal sonic lol

@JohnnyVector

2 жыл бұрын

Very good point. It rocks.

@GinraiPrime666

Жыл бұрын

I still call him Metallix having grown up with the Fleetway comics, at least it is an actual name for the character!

Love the reference to (AlvinEarthworm) Mark Haynes’ epic story SMBZ 🔥

Really would be cool to see this revived in a game of some sort. ^.^

Wow very cool :)))))

I loved the Fleetway comics, had a nearly complete collection of them when I was younger, until it was thrown away by my mother when I was away on a camping trip I thought the stories were fairly interesting and were often a lot darker than is seen in other parts of sonic

This is one reason why Metal Sonic is my all time favorite video game miniboss

your videos are good.

Please do a video discussing the time Fleetway's robotnik became a God because it's damn interesting.

@JohnnyVector

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion. It's one of my favourite storylines (and issue 130 has some amazingly creative panels).

@docbaker3333

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyVector I know and with robotnik In the Sonic 2 movie gaining similar powers from the Master emerald in the recent trailer I think it's more relevant than ever.

Can you make a video about Tekno the Canary? I want to know about her, as she will be one of the main characters in the upcoming fan animated film "Sonic Villains".

When I used to read Sonic the Comic, the last time I saw Metallix was Sonic's gladiatorial fight against the Knuckles one but I never saw the issue where Tails closed the door on it as I think that was when stores were having issues with acquiring copies of the comic so I never saw the end of the fight let alone anything beyond that or the end of the entire comic series.

Heh, I remember this. Can’t quite recall when I stopped reading Sonic the Comic. Weren’t thru choice because I simply couldn’t find it in the shops anymore. Last one I remember reading has Angel Island vs the Death Egg. Best arc was Sonic and Tails coming back to discover the world had been taken over Edit: Which was this arc. I should watch the videos before commenting 🤔

The first issue I ever bought was the issue when the door destroys metal knuckles ironically year's later it was also the last issue I ever bought too.

@zephon6745

2 жыл бұрын

Sonic never beat any of the Knuckles Metallix, Tails did in an awesome moment for him.

Mecha Sonic was never referred to as Metallix in Super Mario Bros Z in any of the 8 Episodes. Supposedly the final form was going to take the name however we never got that final form with the series ending prematurely on the Omega Doomship a full decade ago. Awesome Video though & it's possible the Metarex from Sonic X may have taken some inspiration from the Brotherhood of the Metallix.

Metallix always reminded me of or this reminded me of metallix. Is the giant sentinel from the X-Men 90's series with him being massive and the master mind. Whilst all the other dumb sentinels are similar to the metal sonics being the pawns.

I Always Thought Metallix Was A Completely Different Character, But I Suppose He's Just STC's Representation Of Metal Sonic.

I still have sonic the comic issue 1 to 8 from when I was a kid in my loft

"Metallix" is a WAAAY cooler name for robotic copies of sonic characters.

This would make an amazing modern sonic game

As a kid I seen him on the front of a comic once and have asked people about the Red metal sonic I was starting to think I dreamed it 😂😂

I would love to see a game even a fangame with this sonic univers

I have always thought that the Metallixes voices sound like the Daleks.

@JohnnyVector

2 жыл бұрын

I feel that voice would be a lot scary coming from Metal Sonic than a Dalek

@zephon6745

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyVector I have wondered if Robotnik or Grimer sound like Davros.

@zephon6745

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyVector Now I am picturing a Metallix saying "This is not war, this is pest control."

because of sonic for hire i think of metal sonic as sounding like stephen hawking's voice synthesizer

Yea the Metallix I know and love that beat the hell out of Yoshi for the gray Chaos Emerald.

And then Metallix would be later applied to the best version of Mecha Sonic.

3:57 They Finnaly Realized Sonic's Weak Spot Is Amy.

Oh boy can't wait for the FNF fans to get to this one.

@JohnnyVector

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, surprised there hasn't been a Metallix mod yet.

@zephon6745

2 жыл бұрын

Will they just do the original Metallix or will do Metallix Mark 2 (Mecha Sonic), Emperor Metallix, Porker Metallix, the Pirate Omni-Viewer and Metallix Mark 3 (Knuckles Metallix)?

So basically, Master Mold and Sentinels of Sonic, gotcha

@JohnnyVector

2 жыл бұрын

Great comparison.

@GinraiPrime666

Жыл бұрын

Given the fact that the X-Men cartoon was being shown during the years STC was released and especially during the time the Brotherhood of Metallix was around, there very likely might've been some inspiration from Master Mold aswell since he does appear in the X-Men cartoon.

everybody gangsta till the robot becomes sentient and creates a army

I thought it was more similar to the Cybermen than the Daleks, since the Cybermen literally have an emperor who sits in a chair like the Emperor of the Metallix.

Now metallix lives on through mecha sonic as a transformation

One thing that bugs me, I noticed the Metallix with a triangle chest but not the one that looked like the Metallix Mark 2.

Wow Cory’s crazy ramblings were right

That red colour is reminiscent of Metal Sonic Kai from Knuckles' Chaotix.

Metallix knuckles would be super neat to see again in a future game

Did you heard about pseudo sonic he is actually as Sonic the Hedgehog tycoon group use in the top tunes and some of the tummy bug back then well only 3 timer books

I think metallix would sound like a dalek

You should dive a bit deeper into Dr.Robotnik since that versions very different to any other version right now

Nothing big but if metal speaks i like to give him the ova sonic voice

I have some suspicion that the Emperor Metallix also became inspiration for Metal Sonic in Sonic Heroes

It's amazing how the Fleetway comics do a better job at making me want to play Sonic Mania and classic Sonic games than the Modern comics Reboot that they created to sell the games.