*dies on floor 2.14 Billion* "We found you down there while I was gathering materials, be careful next time"

@spiritsarise4665

4 жыл бұрын

xD

@jasperbates9643

4 жыл бұрын

You forgot 103,967 floors!

@tehgundulf9394

4 жыл бұрын

LMFAOO

@BenjaminB27636

4 жыл бұрын

How in the world can someone get down trere? If they do the this is the message I will give them: WHAT THE -. This was canceled because of language

@douze-onze

4 жыл бұрын

lmao

Clicks final ladder *screen turns white and fades to black* *a wagon slowly begins to fade in* “You’re finally awake”

@rltb_riley

5 жыл бұрын

megaduffpuff 24 eyes open in shock I HIT THE BOTTOM OF SKULL CAVERN FOR NOTHING?! “?”

@fried_infant895

5 жыл бұрын

STARRIM

@liamobrien1117

5 жыл бұрын

Yes just yes

@patrickinaswagjumper

4 жыл бұрын

You were trying to cross the border, right?

@MilesEasler

4 жыл бұрын

Walked right into that Imperial ambush, same as us, and that thief over there

All of us computer science nerds instantly recognized the 32-bit signed integer limit coming into effect

@TheMarshmallowBear

3 жыл бұрын

@Jackson Stein That probably explains why the exploit took the player to the first Skull Cavern level on level 120.

@andrewirwin7483

3 жыл бұрын

@Jackson Stein 120 floors in the mines explains this perfectly.

@acattagite448

3 жыл бұрын

Long int brooo

@JCarey1988

3 жыл бұрын

Lol, yep. Count me in the nerd herd.

@MaXxOwnagesMel

3 жыл бұрын

I know it just because i play video games and this integer limit is in a lot of games, its the maximum cash stack in runescape for example

If it took you one second PER FLOOR, it would take 63 years in real life to reach floor 2 billion.

@flowey1145

3 жыл бұрын

wh- you on second?- WITH THOSE ANNOYING PIECES OF- monsters u have- no no im done I don't exist we don't exist

@NeroCat9999vr

3 жыл бұрын

The Star Gang Are you challenged?

@hokachi6401

2 жыл бұрын

Holy fuck

@flowey1145

2 жыл бұрын

@@NeroCat9999vr TOO MUCH

@ZKH_RL

2 жыл бұрын

So its possible

If you go down that final ladder you actually end up in the vast emptiness of the void that is Pam’s capacity to drink.

@civil45ab

5 жыл бұрын

Lol

@Zoobydeeby

5 жыл бұрын

*pams stomach

@thistle_ish

5 жыл бұрын

STOP FOLLOWING ME

@theman55867

5 жыл бұрын

You end up in the error void of variable overflow

@foxwhite25

5 жыл бұрын

Its the 32bit integer limit

i love how you leave 21474936527 floors by simply climbing a single ladder and it takes no time at all

@potatogames5410

5 жыл бұрын

Fairly certain he has a mod to teleport down floors

@ManWithNoPlan1776

5 жыл бұрын

@@potatogames5410 🤦‍♂️

@nelloe

5 жыл бұрын

i meant that one ladder that makes you leave the skull cavern

@WolfPackPrime

5 жыл бұрын

@Potato Games facepalm*

@randomstuff508

5 жыл бұрын

@@potatogames5410 holy shit

Imagine being so pro at stardew that you just decide to sell primsatic shards and not hoard it for infinite time.

@spacecadet0

3 жыл бұрын

When infinite shards is just a full inventory and a chest organize button away....

@alyssahopson5926

3 жыл бұрын

@@spacecadet0 Is that a glitch? I've never heard of that

@spacecadet0

3 жыл бұрын

@@alyssahopson5926 game breaking bug, but fun if you're not into playing the game legitimately.

@peters3595

3 жыл бұрын

@@spacecadet0 I wouldn’t say it’s game breaking because you still have to find the items in the first place and you can still play the game other then that.

@spacecadet0

3 жыл бұрын

@@peters3595 well yes, it's not broken in the sense of unplayable but broken in the sense that the economy doesn't need to be used, if you choose.

For anybody wanting to know reason behind that number, here it is: 2147483648 + 120 (the number of floors in the regular mine) equals 2³¹. This means that the floor number of the mine and skull cavern is stored using 32 bits in the memory. The 1st bit is probably always 0 as the floor number is never negative (a 1 as tge first bit will always give a negative value in most instances with binary) a so the 1st bit is practically not used and only the next 31 bits are used. The largest number, therefore that the floor number can be is 2³¹. But 120 of the floors belong to the mine so the largest skull cavern floor number is 2³¹ - 120.

@EnderElohim

2 жыл бұрын

He should used BigInteger XD

@187Suryoyo

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I was going to write that.

@Chris-ob6es

Жыл бұрын

As soon as I saw it be maxed in that range I thought "32 bits"

@user-fp8kd5me1w

6 ай бұрын

I agree

@zeushd180

2 ай бұрын

what is funny, is that for the pure value of a 32bit int 121 floors are missing, that means that the 120 floors from the regular mines are on the same int varible, wich explains the bug from the start of the video, where u could staircase in floor 120 of the regular mines and get into skullcavern bcs 2^32 would be 4.294.967.296 divided by 2 bcs +- gives 2.147.483.648 deepest flor in skullcavern is 2.147.483.527 so 121 floors difference

The idea of ConcernedApe watching this and grinning as DF finally fails to break the game. That is an idea I cherish very much.

@thelambsauce4616

4 жыл бұрын

Kind of wholesome

@worldtrademark_

4 жыл бұрын

Who is ConcernedApe?

@thelambsauce4616

4 жыл бұрын

dandon lavis the creator of the game

@2ndsnake899

4 жыл бұрын

@@worldtrademark_ What the guy above me said. (He didn't properly mention you).

@CstrZgf

4 жыл бұрын

Brabo

The 32 bit integer limit is 2,147,483,647 and since the mines are also stored in that number, 2,147,483,647 - 120 = 2,147,483,527 The game cannot pass the 32 bit integer limit as it'll just crash after or go back to 0 or to - 2,147,483,647

@christiano6841

5 жыл бұрын

Max cashstack on runescape

@Dejavous9

5 жыл бұрын

I knew that number looked familiar...

@Unloadonyou

5 жыл бұрын

What's interesting is that KZread used the 32-bit integer for it's view counter. PSY's Gangnam Style music video reached the view counter limit forcing KZread to upgrade it's counter to the 64-bit integer.

@LiteDisc

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, this is the reason it's a max number in a lot of games. Max map space for minecraft, max cash stack for the majority of MMOs, most of anything you can really have in a stack in any game.

@acr027

5 жыл бұрын

I totally forget about the 120 mine levels and I was trying to undertand the "missing" Skull Cavern levels.

DF: The final floor of Skull Cavern is floor number two billion, one hundred and fourty seven million- Me, a computer science student: oh no NOT THIS AGAIN

@zkun3230

2 жыл бұрын

whats that?

@z0orb

2 жыл бұрын

@@zkun3230 32 bit hard limit

@johndoe.commentingpurposes3247

2 жыл бұрын

Minecraft's command number limit is this number

@pimplylittlepoopoo6594

2 жыл бұрын

@@z0orb it's actually 120 less, but since the game considers floor 1 of skull cavern floor 121, (as seen in a previous glitch) the value of the bottom of skull cavern is 120 less than the 32-bit hard limit

@ZoomieZoomie324

Жыл бұрын

@@pimplylittlepoopoo6594 theres also the floor with the gold scythe, does that count?

Using pixel measurements and some math I was curious how deep that would actually be. Harvey is about 6'2 or 188 centimeters. Harvey is 34 pixels tall which is 5.529 centimeters per pixel. The cave walls of Stardew Valley in skull caverns are 63 pixels tall 5.2941176471 x 63 = 348.353 CM per floor, or about 137 feet. If you multiply 348.353 by the 32 bit integer which is the max number of floors, then convert centimeters to kilometers you get an astounding 17480822.02758 KM deep into the earth. For reference, the earth is only 6371 KM thick, so Skull caverns is as deep as around 2744 earths! Thanks for reading, this was fun to calculate.

@germanandres24

2 жыл бұрын

Dude you must be a mathematician

@Kaircic

2 жыл бұрын

@@germanandres24 No just someone who's bored and has way too much time

@michaelavery5618

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kaircic so a mathematician

@somerandomcassfan7289

Жыл бұрын

Your parents must be proud

@stevecti

Жыл бұрын

I think you misplaced a decimal, shouldn't the floors be 13.7 feet and not 137 ft?

Assume that a "floor" is 20 feet. That means that DF was 81 million miles under ground. The sun is *only* 93 million miles away.

@khigh16

4 жыл бұрын

*confused and scared screaming*

@berserker3108

4 жыл бұрын

It's getting hot here buddy...

@sIimepoop

4 жыл бұрын

Lol but I don’t think you are taking into account the space between floors

@khigh16

4 жыл бұрын

@@sIimepoop yeah that would be at lest 10 is feet between floors just so they don't collapse on its self

@jakeredifer871

4 жыл бұрын

@SlimePoop he is at the sun

To the core of the Earth, Pam still waiting on the bus

@tartaroshero2070

5 жыл бұрын

Assuming each floor is ten feet. It would already clear through one end of our sun and out the other.

@jimirio4191

5 жыл бұрын

The bus has 1 seat and the rest is just filled with beer.

@zr.

5 жыл бұрын

wait isnt it 2019? i thought the earth became flat in 2018 so there are no core in a flat earth. Kappa

@cronchyapples7172

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimirio4191 LOL

When you go down one more floor, you wake up on a wagon and someone says, "Hey, you. You're finally awake..."

@nubslayerex

4 жыл бұрын

Alan Li You were trying to cross Stardew Valley’s limits, right?

@devonroberts1250

3 жыл бұрын

Take the comment off now

@sniperjuff369

3 жыл бұрын

Walked right into that imperial ambush same as us and that theif over there

@TheTrueHh

3 жыл бұрын

While if we're no memeing then you would go to -2147483527

@DamageMaximo

3 жыл бұрын

The way you are such a loser for copying comments you would probably fall all the way down to the last floor

Less than 1 second on each floor would take 60+ years to finally reach the bottom.

@blightedadmiral7006

3 жыл бұрын

Well, I’m 3 years old, so I’ll be 43 by the time I’ve made it. Don’t question how ima get the stone for those ladders though

@kaito4926

3 жыл бұрын

@@blightedadmiral7006 so your telling us that your 3 and youll reach the bottom when your 43 Even tho he said it takes 60 years?

@kaito4926

3 жыл бұрын

Go on dont be shy ill be waiting for that R/woosh comment

@blightedadmiral7006

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaito4926 yes. 3+60=43. I’m a smart 3 year old

@nilufertrylandkilicaslan1696

3 жыл бұрын

How did you Get 60+? I got ~6,8, is my math wrong?

Going by the depth of skull cavern, assuming it doesn't teleport you to some weird pocket dimension and assuming each floor is about 10 feet, the planet stardew valley is on is about 500 times the size of planet earth, just going off of this size alone. Since you haven't even hit the mantle yet, it's either even larger, or the composition of their planet is completely different to everything else in existence. The people that live here have to skeletal structure of pure titanium to not be crushed the gravity. Moreover the pressure as well as heat of skull cavern's bottom floor would be so intense it probably should just kill everything, mumps and monsters included. Pam would probably be fine though.

@vero_niqi

5 жыл бұрын

Don't you mean a skeletal structure of pure iridium? 😁

@jetison333

5 жыл бұрын

Considering its freakishly large it could have a very low density too

@Xaos1851

5 жыл бұрын

Are you jesus

@refinedwrath9030

5 жыл бұрын

@@Xaos1851 *"have ya heard of Jesus"*

@Nightmare-Stricken

5 жыл бұрын

The mighty Pam can withstand anything

"If I'm not breaking the game, I'm just not trying hard enough." This entire channel in a nutshell.

@Wrath-_-

3 жыл бұрын

My life in a nutshell

*Holds obsidian sword and gold pickaxe, Only able to get to floor 8*

@wqfled

3 жыл бұрын

its weird since that was my EXACT gear when going to skull cavern. well until a mystic stone spawned in my quarry and gave me a prismatic shard in which i got the galaxy sword edit: ik this is a year late reply

@braydonrekart3265

3 жыл бұрын

@@wqfled pat pat :3

@FatalHog

3 жыл бұрын

I bought the lava sword, then literally 2 days later got a shard from omni geodes, i was happy but also genuinely tilted fot the wasted 25k, to the point that i shafted the lava sword even though i only got 500g for it :p

@kamillakalamar3271

3 жыл бұрын

well, with galaxy sword I died at the very first level :(((

@whothefisalys

3 жыл бұрын

I got a prismatic shard, didn't know what it was and donated it to the museum, now I've found out what it does and I've been struggling with the skull cavern mine, big rip 😭

Skull Cavern: I have no bottom Integer overflow error: aha, once again limited by my powers of 2

I'm a little impressed that the developer (edit: yes, ONE developer, I get it!) took the time to ensure that attempts to bypass the limit simply failed instead of crashing the game.

@the_rabidsquirel

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's definitely the interesting part here. I was expecting the floor count to overflow or the game to just crash. It's understandable most other games seem to ignore integer overflow problems with 32 bit integers, cause there's no way you're getting to that obscenely high of a number without already having clearly broken or modified the game.

@conner3626

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think the devs did it I think it was just the game doing what its supposed to if the devs put time in it I think they would've done something special

@jasongibson1225

4 жыл бұрын

You mean dev right? Eric Barone developed the entire game by himself. Art, music, programming, everything.

@Veylon

4 жыл бұрын

@@jasongibson1225 Quite right! I stand corrected.

@novalithtrpg8430

3 жыл бұрын

Since I don't see it pinned, the reason is basically just that the floor level integer has a maximum value based on how many bits it contains. Its genuinely impressive that Concerned Ape took the time to create exceptiom handling for this that prevented the game from crashing

>Haven't watched DF in a while >Sees new video, title intrigues me >Clicks on video >Marriage, child, sacrifice, divorce *It's like I never left*

@ondrae7528

5 жыл бұрын

Swordslash as of now oh have 666 likes

@wizardfan8656

5 жыл бұрын

So tempted to like, but I just cant

@ajollyduck

5 жыл бұрын

Noice

@addityasinghal897

5 жыл бұрын

Dwarf fortress? Cause thats apt too

@kurtronqx7135

4 жыл бұрын

Why does he do that marriage gimmick?

I thought I was getting click baited, was entertained and informed. that's a rarity on youtube gaming videos. GG

@dlp6567

2 жыл бұрын

Such an unexpectable meet...

@edensanpedro3032

2 жыл бұрын

Uhhhh how r u here???

Journey To The Center Of The Earth: Pixelated

@celestecortes6148

3 жыл бұрын

🤣

Wait a minute... THAT'S THE 32-BIT INTEGER LIMIT! Many games (e.g Minecraft) crash after passing the 32-bit integer limit.

@justinbuergi9867

5 жыл бұрын

Why not give it a 64-bit integer limit?

@tehdave192

5 жыл бұрын

Interesting though because a 32 bit integer should be 2,147,483,648, that 527 is strange I think the 121 difference is the 1 offset (2^32/2-1) + the 120 mine levels

@Chocice75

5 жыл бұрын

@@justinbuergi9867 Probably because nobody would even get to the 32-bit integer limit.

@aggese

5 жыл бұрын

It could have rolled over unto the first level of the regular dungon @pudding143 true my mistake, ment more that it would have been more fun if it had sent him back to floor 1 of the regular dungon, but you are correct that is not how integers works unless specifically set to it

@aggese

5 жыл бұрын

@@justinbuergi9867 then someone would have asked why not a 128 bit limit and so on

so assuming each floor is about 10 feet high (for simplicity) the entirety of skull cavern is 4,067,203 Miles deep. But the diameter of the earth is only 7,197 Miles, meaning skull cavern has to loop around the entire world multiple times. If we assume it stays just below the surface the entire way we can use the earths circumference of 24,901 Miles to figure out that it loops around the earth a total of 163 times. for further reference, skull cavern is over 300 times longer than the Great Wall of China, it more than qualifies to be a world wonder, and DF just sets off bombs in it.

@tensorflaw

5 жыл бұрын

or stardew valley takes place on planet that has a diameter of 8m miles, a circumference of 25.5m miles, and a surface area of 708 trillion miles. that's roughly 10 times bigger than the sun. a planet of that size and earth like material would surely collapse on itself into a black hole

@Goodish_night

5 жыл бұрын

Lol I had the same idea except with 7ft ceilings. With 7ft ceilings it comes out to 2,847,042 miles which would be 12 trips to the Moon and back to the surface of Earth 😂

@gieo7734

5 жыл бұрын

7000 IQ

@hollyweston602

5 жыл бұрын

The skull caverns are actually a labyrinth under the planet with a strange gravity of their own making you think you're falling down but actually spiralling across and into the planet. (Thats my explaination 😂)

@xaosbob

5 жыл бұрын

"...the entirety of skull cavern is 4,067,203 Miles deep." "...skull cavern is over 300 times longer than the Great Wall of China." Well...you're not wrong, I guess.

From my calculations, if you have maxed out luck and find a ladder every time you break a rock, it will take ~204 real years to reach the bottom.

@blueflamefae7898

3 жыл бұрын

if you find a shaft on every floor and every floor drops you say like 7 levels and it takes you about 2 seconds to locate and jump down the shaft then what does that add up to

@erichung7898

3 жыл бұрын

@@blueflamefae7898 Approximately 19.45 years to reach floor 2147483647 in those circumstances.

@erichung7898

3 жыл бұрын

@@blueflamefae7898 If the floor count was updated to 64 bit instead of 32 bit, floor 9223372036854775808 would take 83563202479.2960 years. Further, if a long double at 128 bit was used as the data type to store the number, floor 170141183460469231731687303715884105727 would take 1541469010115144884138647022141.44475 years.

So, the start of Skull Cavern is definitely being treated as "Floor 121" in game.. and the final floor is just Maxed-Signed-Integer of the 64 bit system.. minus 120 (indicating it *was* max signed integer and shifted slightly for the display in the top left). Super neat! And, good on the developer for having checks in place to keep the game from crashing due to integer rollover. Thanks for finding this!

next project, what is 2,147,483,527 floors worth in value

@bldmn-ny8gw

5 жыл бұрын

that would take years to accomplish

@conner3626

4 жыл бұрын

that would take 2,147,483,527 years

@DarKxSlay3Rx21x

3 жыл бұрын

You simply would not be able to figure that out. Far to many levels to clear fully and sell

@iamthepirateking9000

3 жыл бұрын

If you really Really REALLY want to calculate that, then you have no choice but to assume a fixed value per floor. First mine the first floor and ship the contents and then multiply the total amount with 2,147,483,527.

@killerlalu1

3 жыл бұрын

@@iamthepirateking9000 That simplistic of a calculation would never work as the floors have multiple layouts that drastically alter available space for the various available item types and their spawn rates the deeper you go, though you've got the very general idea. This is more a question/challenge for a person like Blade, who searches the code and calculates much of the numerical and percentage information regarding Stardew Valley that we know today. I know ConcernedApe is still working his way down Skull Caverns floor-by-floor, though I can't remember what floor he'd reached, last I heard; my memory just hates me like that.

it's related to the 32-bit integer limit. this game uses that sistem too, so it can't count bigger number than 2,147,483,647 (2,147,483,527+120 mines). The same happens with gold if you go over that limit you'll get negatve numbers.

@jonathancarlson7659

2 жыл бұрын

He should have used an unsigned integer. ;)

@Lemony123

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think that happen with gold. Oh nvm.

Thank you for doing this for me. I'm rather disappointed that ConcernedApe didn't have SOME kind of surprise coded in, but my hat is off to him that the game doesn't crash.

Will DF ever satisfy his lust to break stardew valley? Find out next time on dragonball z

@elgamer_1785

3 жыл бұрын

Apparenly

The reason for such the high number is that the number 2,147,483,647 is the max you can go before it overflows and jumps to an insanely low negative number. However, you'll notice the number here isn't 2,147,483,647, but rather 2,147,483,527. Well, if you remember what DF said about the 120 floor glitch with the bomb, and how the 121st floor is just the 1st floor of skull cavern, that's exactly it. 2,147,483,527 + 120 = 2,147,483,647, the max limit of the 32 bit integer limit.

@granderondeproductions3286

3 жыл бұрын

@Edward Thang Is this a dword value that can be changed with cheat engine? Why not split the data into an array of two sets? I'm no expert, and I should probably brush up on my computer science and math stuff again. Anywho..

@joshuagamesofficial

3 жыл бұрын

which makes you wonder WHY he decided to use an i32 to store the level depth, considering you weren't likely to ever get past 1000 or so. I believe minecraft used a u16 for their map data (65536) which would have been plenty

@SavageGreywolf

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshuagamesofficial because it's just... easy? considering the way the floors are procedurally generated, it's likely that the level depth is literally just a signed int. It looks like he just made a check to prevent overflow. ConcernedApe never intended anyone to reach the bottom of Skull Cavern with conventional means, it's meant to be impossible unless you're cheating. The overflow prevention is probably just there to keep unexpected corruption from happening.

@RGBConfirmed

3 жыл бұрын

@@granderondeproductions3286 this value can't be changed by regular users, you can enhance it as developer by changing the data type from integer to long.

@daphneelalonde-larocque1949

3 жыл бұрын

My one prog class in uni that i actually just abandonned is feeling useful right now because I know what you are talking about 😂

I think one of my favorite parts of this channel is his ability to roast the other npc’s so casually

Now we need to know the exact first floor where it's only iridium ores spawning so we can use ladder spamming to get there before end of day haha

@woooooooooooooooooooooooo

Жыл бұрын

That would probably take a _while,_ like hours

I wonder if that equals to hitting the center of the world?

@sandraskender1388

5 жыл бұрын

You appeare in every comments secion of DF

@hannahk2275

5 жыл бұрын

I’d think so

@aturchomicz821

5 жыл бұрын

Kirara Lala 3 000 000 000 times 3 (if we assume every floor is just 3 meteres high)

@Whydidyoudothis

5 жыл бұрын

This guy literally dominates comments...

@KiraraLalaYT

5 жыл бұрын

I do :D

Recognized the number, it is close to the 32 bit integer a max limit for 32 bit engines which is 2,147,483,647 and this number is the same as skull cavern plus the normal cavern since in is technically a continuation of that the first floor of skull cavern is 121 so by proxy the the lowest floor is the 32 bit integer, also assuming. you can do 1 floor a second it would take about 74 years

@craigjorgensen1986

5 жыл бұрын

Nice, I was thinking along these lines too but I wasn't thinking about the 120 mine levels. So it was bugging me that it wasn't 2^31.

@hanwong1919

5 жыл бұрын

You're smart!

@shadowninja958

5 жыл бұрын

Frost looks like he forgot to pin it.

@AchiBellarosa464

5 жыл бұрын

If you managed to do the 700 floors (presumably in a single in-game day) that DF mentioned, it would take around 114 or more years to get to the bottom, granted you had a mod that gives you an elevator.

@MRDVI_D

5 жыл бұрын

@@AchiBellarosa464 that's assuming you do it "legitly", but I was assuming that time was frozen and you are Immortal in really life just to get the simplest start to finish number

Fun fact, the amount of floors there are in skull cavern is also the max amount of gp you can have in a single stack in Runescape.

@betochiwas

4 жыл бұрын

Is the size of a variable in programming enviroments, I think is "long" numeric variable in C

@JozhuaVids

4 жыл бұрын

In a 32 bit game, the game can typically handle the numbers -2^31 to 2^31-1, and if you type in 2^31-1 you get.....

@cadainn3718

3 жыл бұрын

@@betochiwas It is the maximum Integer[32bit] value, not Long[64bit] (9,223,372,036,854,775,807)

@kyroh-bf2tf

3 жыл бұрын

Actually wrong, you can have 2147483647 gp not the 2147483527 floors in stardew valley

@KitTheAnkafolk

3 жыл бұрын

@@kyroh-bf2tf You forget the original 120 floors in the mines Add those to the massive number of levels in skull cavern and you get the limit^^ As the “121st” floor of the mines was Skull Cavern #1 until the bug was patched^^

Pewdiepie: nobody is deeper than me. Skull cavern: hold my annoying iridium bats.

@davidsilva4272

2 жыл бұрын

bruh

you asked about those grey stones on the deepest floor, DF, here's your answer: Those bigger, dark grey stones are 'stone ore', so to say. They give you more stones than a normal rocks, and, as one can see from your video, clusters of different ores are possible to spawn in iridium-only floors. So, instead of a cluster of copper, iron or gold, you simply got a cluster of, well, stone.

Try going to the second to last floor and then use a shaft

@patrickrocheleau8185

5 жыл бұрын

If its based on intger overflow he would just get sent to floor one

@Arobsite

5 жыл бұрын

@@patrickrocheleau8185 The thing is its a signed integer, meaning that it has both positive and negative numbers, with the negative using the final bit. It would increment past that and end up at -2147483647.

@Wildcolt

5 жыл бұрын

Except it doesn't overflow. If it did, he'd be able to "continue" and we'd see a negative floor value instead of being stuck on the floor he's on.

@CherubiJubell

5 жыл бұрын

QUICK UPVOTE THIS!!!

@markijacksepticpie1096

5 жыл бұрын

TwizzdaCat good idea

68 years to get to the bottom legitimately if it took 1 second to clear a floor.

Funny, the final floor is almost the same number as the max cash stack in Runescape, which is limited in 32-bit.

The Lowest floor is probably 2,147,483,647 it is 2^31-1 the highest number that can be represent in signed 4 bytes integer.

@wqfled

3 жыл бұрын

not counting the 120 floors in the mine 2,147,483,647 - 120 + 9,147,483,527 which is the lowest level of sc

@anthonybenci9035

3 жыл бұрын

4 byte 32 BIT

Leave it up to DF to have a "productive day" in 10 minutes😂

You had me at "floor 20"

"This successful run to Skull Cavern floor 100,000 is brought to you by the sacrifice of one innocent child."

At one floor per second, starting from birth, with no brakes this would take about 68.1 years.

Someone should make a teleporting NPC’s mod. *Pam vs. Train*

@kieraglenn7053

5 жыл бұрын

Pam would win

@TheRealFraston

5 жыл бұрын

Easily Also 100th like

@ariamelody3166

4 жыл бұрын

The Train is angrier but the Pam is drunker

So concerned Ape expected you trying that and implemented a function that sets you to the lowest floor every time you pass this floor. Otherwise you would be sent to to floor -(max int lenght)

Fun fact, 2.147 billion gold is the max gold you can have in a single stack on Old school RuneScape.

I noticed that during the Community Center Completion cutscene, all the NPCs have dialogue bubbles. Can you use your modded shenanigans to see if they really have anything to say?

@alecz3843

5 жыл бұрын

They most likely say "hi" as that's the default text bubble.

@areallyshiftyguy

5 жыл бұрын

All npcs have dialogue bubbles in every cutscene, they wont have anything to say

U were in the Guinness world records Gamers Edition 2019!!!

Concerned Ape used an int primitive data type to store the value of the floors. An int data type can count up to the value of 2,147,483,647 or 2^31 - 1. If you subtract the amount of floors in the regular mines you get 2,147,483,527

I think the Grey rocks are technically different than the brown ones. They always seem to drop multiple rocks, my theory is they are "ore nodes" that drop rocks.

It's really interesting that game creators were prepared for someone reaching the int value in floors. It's like they predicted someone would be crazy enough to go there EDIT Btw even if you used the mod that skips 1000 floors, it would still take over 8 days straight. Without mods it would take 34 years straight at best, meaning that assuming your PC doesn't break it would be a multi-generation feat

@LuizAlexPhoenix

5 жыл бұрын

If you were to be skipping it one floor at the time, one floor by the second, it might just take double that.

@natefoldan

5 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately as it's procedurally generated, they weren't prepared for it, it was just the physical limitations the game would allow. Would be very cool if ConcernedApe had prepared for it and put something special on the last floor though!

@iceman6624

5 жыл бұрын

Polak

@MaxRollison

4 жыл бұрын

I think they didn’t worry about it at first. But patched it later on, just like the dupe glitches. I guess it really is a simple fix though

@Lauren_C

4 жыл бұрын

Alexander Rollison Theoretically, it isn’t difficult to implement a couple checks before and/or during floor generation. Not sure how the dev implemented it, but one way would be to check the current floor against a preset variable. If the value is equal to or greater than the limit, then you could simply fail to generate a floor. The load times are very speedy, which suggests that the next floor could be generated in advance before you actually do go down, probably before ladders are ever generated. In this case, a failed floor generation can return a value (a boolean perhaps) that can be used to prevent further progression. Shafts would probably require special handlings due to their variability. This video didn’t display the behavior of shafts within reach of the bottom floor, so I can’t say with any certainty how it will handle potential overflow situations. The safest means I know of would probably involving generating the random number (floors to jump down by) in advance, then run a loop in the background to increment the floor value while running the checks against the floor limit. If the limit is hit, then the difference returned will be the amount of floors you skip, preventing further progression.

The time, and the pressure in your ears.. it would probably kill you at that point.

It always feels good when you break the 32 bit integer in a game.

Legend says the cavern goes deeper, but a magical force prevents you from going any further, fearful for what you could find.

If someone wants to know why it's the limit: An integer in programming languages is usually 2^32 big or in other words it can count up to 4.294.967.295 but because we have negatives and positives it goes from -2.147.483.648 to 2.147.483.648. So what happens if you hit 2.147.483.649? Right it goes back to -2.147.483.648. I guess the level -8 is a compiler error following this logic.

@faythplays93

5 жыл бұрын

BunnyJumps Interesting, so since the regular mine is included as part of the levels (seeings as skull cavern level 1 is counted as level 121) the floor number DF lands on makes sense. I has a question! Do you plan on releasing the skull cavern level jump mod for the public? Asking for me 👀

@fmtcerberus7929

5 жыл бұрын

Bitch what ?

@nonichalant7251

5 жыл бұрын

FMT Cerberus 😂😂😂!!!!!!!

@Cyrathil

5 жыл бұрын

-8 would probably be the result of integer overflow, which explains the crashing. A neat trick I show students is counting up and show how it wraps down to MIN_INT after MAX_INT, because of how 2s Compliment binary works.

@TheCalax

5 жыл бұрын

@@Cyrathil Yeah, it's pretty simple. The first bit usually declares if the number is positive or negative. So going from 01111...(31 1's) to 1000...(31 0's) increases the number from 2147483647 to 2147483648 - Though since it's already in the negative domain (1 as first bit) it's translated to -1 in common programming languages

when the other nerds say the reason for what's going on before you can me: It's the 32 bi- oh...

If I had to guess with my extremely limited programming knowledge it probably has to do with the limit on the size of integers within the language. Or whatever other variable type they decided to use.

If I did math right, and you didn't eat, sleep, or do anything else, AND had infinite ladders, and you placed one ladder every 5 seconds, presuming that's how long it takes to place it, scroll to the next ladder, and go to the next floor, it would take approximately 341 years to get to the bottom. So it is possible. If you use a bunch of people constantly swapping around in shifts as they die.

This is the video i didn't know i needed to see, haha, thank you DF. only recently got SDV and seen your vids and i love them

Quality programming right there, Error checking for int overflow. Because you know someone is going to do something exactly like this -____-

if you would take a shaft that takes you 15 floors every second, it will still take over 4.6 years to get to that floor

@DangerouslyFunny I'm pretty sure someone already pointed this out. Stardew Valley is a 32bit game, The number 2,147,483,647 (or hexadecimal 7FFFFFFF) is the maximum positive value for a 32-bit signed binary integer in computing. I added 120 to 2,147,483,527 because the mines do count as the first 120 floors. So basically you reach the end of the possible numbers generated in hex value.

geez, you CAN go lower, yet you don't know? i mean, it's not in skull cavern, but i think you did make a video on it what video it was? "marry Pam" of course!!

It's the limit because the floor number is stored as a 32 bit signed integer. So 31 bits of precision and 1 sign, means 2^31 possible floors. We ignore the fact that it can be negative as this is just the way that the integer is stored. So 2^31 = 2147483648

DF: we still have annoying enemies. Serpent: Come ere!

The reason that 2.14 billion floors is the max is because the type of value the floors are stored as is an int and the highest that goes is that number, 2.14 billion is considered int overflow

The bottom of skull cavern is the upper limit of an int32 number minus 120 floors for the mines. It would crash if it passed that limit, so most games loop back to the beginning (which is the same limit but negative) or in the case is Stardew Valley it looks like it prevents the number from incrementing

Wait... they patched out the secret ladder on floor 120? Oh no... I was hoping to take my more action-based friends to Skull Cavern early to make the experience a bit more fun for them...

Computers use a base 2 number system, i.e. looking at things in the form 2^(x). Our society generally uses a base 10 number system, which is why base 2 numbers might look a little weird to the human eye. You’re used to organizing numbers in terms of 1, 10, 100, 1000, etc. but a computer thinks of things in terms of 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, etc. In this case, 2^(16) = 2,147,483,648. So, ending at 2,147,483,648 is similar to ending at something like 1,000,000,000,000 in the base 10 number system that you’re used to. It just makes sense to end at an even number like that, and makes the most of the memory available. The size of the memory set aside for rooms in this area was probably 2^16 (aka, an integer with a limited memory size of 2^16). In Stardew Valley, the skill cavern number is a little less than 2,147,483,648 but very close. I’m guessing that ~100 extra rooms were set aside for other locations in the desert or something. Either way, seeing something so clearly based on a base 2 number system is typical for anything with computers!

Him: okay so we got 5 prismatic shards Me: HOW R U NOT GOInG CRaZY

The fastest way down skull cavern is Pam, even the earth itself is scared of her.

7:50 The Integer Value Range already got posted You would need roughly 204 Years and 288 Days to get to that level with an theoretically infinite supply of stairs.

I like your videos, thanks. Id like to say, the reason they keep putting normal rocks is to give you the option to craft more staircase with the stone you accumulate

Anyone who watches AntVenom’s Minecraft videos knows by heart that that number (around 2.14 billion) is the 64-bit integer limit. Most games have this number as a limit in the code at least once.

@dimensionalspirit4027

4 жыл бұрын

Erm actually no, 64 bit limit is (2^63)-1 which is exponentially higher than this (exactly 2^32^2÷2-1) or a little more than 9.2 quintillion (won't bother typing a 19 digit number) This case, on the other hand, is actually a 32 bit limit which is 2^31-1 which is 2147483647 or the maximum floors

The real " Journey to the center of the earth "

It's a coding thing, most integer values have an upper and lower limit, and going any higher/lower would break the number (or loop back to -2billion or something) I don't remember the exact reason why that's the number, but that's considered "MAX" in code. He likely has put some sort of conditional like "if(floor > MAX)" in the next floor method to prevent further depths from being explored

It was a perfect opportunity for a hidden Easter egg and the developer simply didn't even make a single Easter egg

i can hear a kynseed soundtrack in the background. that was a pleasant surprise.

Getting to floor 2,147,483,527 in one lifetime without cheating? Is it possible? Here is a rough math breakdown coming from me. (Not a math buff by any means.) I got some of this info from Wiki. Lets Start with this. "Time is the process in which Stardew Valley proceeds. Each day is 24 hours, and each hour is sixty minutes. Time passes in ten minute intervals. Each interval equates to about seven seconds in real-time. There are 7 days per week. An hour of the game consumes 42 seconds of real-time. From that, we can assume that a full game-day duration is about 17 minutes." So if each day is 17 minutes of real life time. And the record for legit vanilla (No modded help etc.) Skull Mine Depth is 500ish give or take 100 or so? Is that true? I don't know even on a full day and really good luck I have hard time getting to 100. My record is 115 ish. But in the video you said you got to 500! I don't know if you used a little help from like a time slow down mod but you said others have gotten a little further? So I'm going to use 750 floors as a value for the current record for vanilla. I don't know how wrong that is. But I assume it's very difficult to beat that? Heck personally I think it's absolutely impossible but after seeing speeds runs and Good Games Done Quick anything is possible. But it's better to over estimate when it comes to the math I'm about to do. And it's fair to assume that 750 is over estimating. So 750/17 = about 44.117 floors per minute. More Info from Wiki. In Canada, the average life expectancy was 80 years for males and 84 years for females in 2018. So I'm going to pick 85 years as general over estimation. I'm also ignoring work, sleep, eating, bathing all that does not matter. So 85 years of dedicating time traveling downward in Stardew Valley Skull Mine. So that alone is a MASSIVE over calculation. 85 Years = 44,676,000 Minutes 44,676,000 ( 85 Years ) x 44.117 ( Floors Per Minute ) = 197,097,109.2 (Floors Deep) So yeah the average Canadian or let just say person if they started mining downward in Skull Cavern the moment they were born till the there death. On average without sleep, work, eating, or anything else they would be extremely lucky to reach just floor 197,097,109.2 (Target Floor) 2,147,483,527 / (Projected Maximum) 197,097,109.2 = 10.895. So even after all this we are still off by 10.985. So even 10 lifetimes would not be enough. And I'm to lazy to figure out how much time someone has to eat, sleep minimum there whole life and deduct the ages where someone is to young. Like the 1st 4-5 years of there life. The real calculation is at best half of the one I put up. Like any real person trying this would have to eat, sleep etc... So DangerouslyFunny your 100% correct when it comes to billions of pretty much anything it's beyond human life time.

@needtowin316

5 жыл бұрын

Rough maths...

I was expecting for the skull cavern to roll over when you tried to go to floor 2,147,483,528. What I mean is that I was thinking you might have ended up on floor 1 of the mines. Though I think the dev's didn't put in a roll over feature for the 32 bit integer limit mostly because it isn't possible to hit that low of a floor without cheating.

Using that shaft can really get you some good statistics.

That’s the max integer a variable can hold if no one has said it yet, after that it will error out if I remember correctly

Imagine someone actually getting down that far legit

@emperorrealmalchemist6606

3 жыл бұрын

It would take you 60+years, 1min on floor

The number of floors corresponds to the max possible integer in Java

At the end.. "Now you're mining with Portals"

If you go down even further, you black out and wake up in the back of a wagon... "Hey you, you were trying to cross the border too"

3:42 "innocent" yeah about that

That's odd, usually when you hit a limit like that you get an overflow and end up back at 1

oh thats the integer limit of a program, we actually learnt about this in a exam question

that number is the 32 bit integer limit the data type used by the variable that determines the floor number takes up a set amount of bytes, resulting in said number and its property of being the maximum value of a 32 bit int value

I just celebrated my 1 billionth second alive at (around) 31.5 years, so if every floor took about a second, you could do it before you turned 70. Easy.

Strange that going past the Skull Cavern's last floor doesn't take you to floor 1 of the mines

Fun fact: Earth has a diameter of 12.742 million meters. Say each floor was somehow magically only a meter tall...you would have gone all the way through Earth over 165 times. Second fun fact: The distance from Earth to the Moon is 384.4 million meters. Again, with 1-meter-tall floors, you'd have made the trip there five and a half times.

You can't go down deeper because of the human body's instinct to avoid cooking itself, you hit the core of the planet

The first time I went into skull cavern I found a shaft and fell 15 levels