I'm the developer of Unknown Devices and I wasn't really expecting a reference to my old program in my feed :) I'm glad to see it's actually still being used although I haven't touched it in almost 13 years! I wrote up the program while I was working in a computer repair shop back in the early 2000s (PCs for Everyone/Thinkmate) but have since moved over into the IT field and haven't thought about that program in years.

@eDoc2020

3 жыл бұрын

PCs for Everyone? My PC case was originally part of a system built by them (maybe in 2004) but when I found it it was just the case, power supply, and floppy drive. Perhaps back in the day you built the original system.

@Rhakyr

3 жыл бұрын

I used to rely on Unknown Devices so much, thanks for making such a handy piece of software!

@gordoncreAtive

3 жыл бұрын

Would you mind releasing the source code?

@Turnbull50

3 жыл бұрын

Well done you great to see your program has a future.

@z80dad61

3 жыл бұрын

Really love this program! I reccommended it a few months ago to somebody who was trying to do something similar. Understand the bit about AC97 sound cards not being that easy to detect; for a standard its not that "standard". What an awesome contribution to PC repair, Thank you so much!

Be honest, who else thought was was actually a PC with a real blender on top of it until Adrian removed the top?

@TheCode-X

3 жыл бұрын

i thought it was a weird machine like the Avon suitcase

@zehph

3 жыл бұрын

He got me for real on this one! I did think it was one of those crazy contraptions like the telefone mouse.

@stitchfinger7678

3 жыл бұрын

Watching LGR, Techmoan, ADB et al, you never know

@alessandroamoroso7650

3 жыл бұрын

I thought it was a Smart blender :-)

@larsmuldjord9907

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely I did, and in my mind I was trying to anticipate how in the hell it would work since it clearly had USB ports and sound. Then he removed it and I kind of laughed at myself for even believing that in the first place. I guess LGR's Oddware made me so I don't even think twice about odd machines existing anymore. :D

My nephew said he wanted a pc to learn blender on for Christmas. This must be what he meant, thanks!

@clemensruis

3 жыл бұрын

I'm still searching for a pc with a chess board on top! My nephew wants a pc to play games on.

@Bond101Studios

3 жыл бұрын

That’s great, but I need a PC that has a portal into the 3rd dimension, my son wants to play 3D games like quake, Doom, Duke nukem, etc

@minty_Joe

3 жыл бұрын

@@clemensruis Hahaha! Very "punny"!

That's the old version of CANYON.MID, which has the drums on both MIDI channels 10 and 16, because when it was first written in 1990, there was no standard for MIDI mapping. On newer sound cards this causes it to play a piano note along with the drums. I believe beginning with Windows ME, Microsoft updated CANYON.MID to have the drums only on channel 10, which had by that time become the General MIDI standard.

@cptcrogge

3 жыл бұрын

This is a new level of geekness :)

@coffee115

2 жыл бұрын

This tracks, because Sequencer Plus Gold that I used require drums to be on channel 16.

When the blender goes out of production but the tooling is still good

@tombarber8929

3 жыл бұрын

There's a dental camera that's made using the same molds as the Atari Jaguar, including a memory card going into the cartridge slot

@thinkzinc100

3 жыл бұрын

And you see 15 different models, all with different Chinese brand names on Amazon.

This is basically a better thought out version of the Hot Wheels/Barbie PC, at least from a serviceability viewpoint.

Computer: Came with Windows ‘98 Second Edition Computer BIOS: (c)1999, calls out Windows 2000 as a boot option Adrian: Must have been made in 1998

@RWL2012

3 жыл бұрын

The PIII 450 didn't exist in 1998 let alone the 733 haha

This seems like a thing LGR would love

@lifeofbroggio5019

8 ай бұрын

Greetings, and welcome to LGR things!

Pronounced like "curium". And yes that is supposed to be yellow.

@mattelder1971

3 жыл бұрын

I was about to say the same about the color. Unless every one I can find a picture of online is discolored in exactly the same way, they were that odd yellow and purple color originally.

@mrt1r

3 жыл бұрын

It's amazing what 5 minutes of google searching can get you! Even tells you the year that the computer was released and gives you the owners manual.

@Okurka.

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrt1r This was a rushed video; he didn't even try the computer in MS-DOS mode.

@mrt1r

3 жыл бұрын

@@Okurka. I get that it was a quick video but not taking literally 2 minutes to find out at least basic information about the computer seems just sloppy.

@erik365365365

3 жыл бұрын

Lol it would look good in beige or yellow tho!

3:27 Oh boy, a free Windows 98 product key, christmas came early this year!

That plastic isn’t yellowed from age. It’s yellow from the factory! I’m not sure why, but I love it! Also after a quick bit of research, there’s supposed to be a keyboard (and presumably mouse as well) with it. Not sure about a monitor though

That's a "Panettone" box ! And being in the Christmas period it's absolutely perfect 😂.

You should run "blender" on it! I was yelling at the screen, you forgot to remove 4 side screws!

@adriansdigitalbasement

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah TechTangents suggested the original blender too. I ran out of time LOL

@jurviz

3 жыл бұрын

This would be awesome for a sleeper build that's powerful enough to actually run modern blender

@paulstubbs2778

3 жыл бұрын

I was yelling too - can't you see those so obvious screws

@OjStudios

3 жыл бұрын

It might be possible to fit itx build in there.

As cute as this machine is, it basically screams for an ITX mod.

oh its supposed to be banana yellow.......

@tombarber8929

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's too nice of a yellow to be just due to typical yellowing

@shadyoakum9978

3 жыл бұрын

That is what I recall as well.

So one question still unanswered: DOS IT BLEND? See what I did there?

@CraftyZanTub

3 жыл бұрын

It might blend in Pewee's Playhouse!

@erik365365365

3 жыл бұрын

I didn’t until you called it out! Ahaha

@minty_Joe

3 жыл бұрын

Will it run Crysis?

I legitimately thought it was a blender at first. Lol.

@adventureoflinkmk2

3 жыл бұрын

So did I.. it'd be awesome if it were an actual blender

@Skios

3 жыл бұрын

I thought that too. I thought it would be a video about installing a computer into a blender, and I thought how convenient it was that it already had a bunch of ventilation areas in the plastic.

@MattyEngland

3 жыл бұрын

I read your comment and still legitimately thought it was a blender until he lifted the jug.

About AC97: this standard was about making audio cards at lower cost for a compatible PC. Chipsets contained part of the audio system, and a small controller completed the system. That's why the audio has two vendors: Intel and SigmaTel. That's also why "Unknown Devices" can't tell you the correct device, as you need a driver that is compatible with both pieces of the AC97 sound card. They did the same with modems, even created an special slot on motherboards called AMR (audio-modem riser) where you can put an AC97 audio card or modem; those cards were cheaper because there's only half of the hardware, the rest is in the motherboard's chipset. About having only front audio: One possibility that made the designers not put an audio jack at the back is the best feature of the successor of AC97: HD Audio: connector sensing. Before conector sensing was a thing, managing front audio connectors was a mess. Having only a connector avoids lots of calls to support. About making the sound blaster compatibility work on DOS games, you need the DOS drivers for that sound card. In those cases running the games from Windows worked with some issues, but if you rebooted to pure DOS and had the DOS drivers loaded, Sound Blaster compatibility was somewhat ok. I don't know about Adlib, I somewhat remember that AC97 cards didn't offer any kind of Adlib compatibility, but I'm not sure.

A glossy "avocado" paint job on this would be amazing. You absolutely need to thrift store a blender glass and stick it to this!

just googled the machine , the colors you have is OEM, it has not yellowed

@christophertstone

3 жыл бұрын

The yellow is far too consistent to be yellowed plastic; that's definitely original.

@clemensruis

3 жыл бұрын

I think in the 90s, early 2000, some pcs must have come pre-yellowed.

Shot some beer through my nose when I saw this thing. There is no way it wasn't "blender inspired" design.

When the marketing dept determined that what was needed was another "internet appliance".

One good thing did come from this oddball PC. I used that Win 98 code to get my 'new' retro PC up and running this morning. It's been a very long time since I last installed Windows 98 and I even managed to get it networked. Thanks, mate ;-)

Turning that thing into a functional blender, that's now your job.

My high school upgraded their computer rooms in 1999. They got about 50 Daewoo branded machines. They were really quirky baby AT tower sized ATX systems that included a Celeron 300, 64MB RAM and Windows 98. A few years later, they ended up giving them away to a few lucky nerds like myself. I got to get a much better look at them - they were pretty cool in that they had a small ATX PSU connected to a really tiny ATX motherboard which had 1xISA, 2xPCI and 1xAGP, standard PC100 RAM slots, 2xIDE, Floppy, and so on. Actually quite a zippy machine. I wonder what ended up happening to that machine...

I totally thought that was an actual DOS blender lol.

@GauginProductions

3 жыл бұрын

same lmao

@RWL2012

3 жыл бұрын

yep, fooled me as well!

Mechanically, this is a shockingly well built machine in terms of accessibility and maintainability for something that was sold to people who would never open it themselves. Daewoo really outdid themselves!

@adriansdigitalbasement

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, it is very well made! I am working on another Daewoo machine in an upcoming video (an older machine) and it's super well made.

@LGR do an oddware review on this !

I genuinely thought the blender was part of the PC at the start of the video, but I couldn't wrap my head around how or why that would even be a thing, even for a bizarre late 90's era PC!

My friend had a car made by Daewoo, a crappy little hatchback. I did have a small CRT TV made by them and that seemed normal. Funny enough, Daewoo also made kitchen appliances and you can find plenty of their blenders in a google search.

what a cute little machine, i'd be tempted ot make it into a sleeper, small form factor powerhouse

Will it blend? That is the question.

Me: "The Amiga Walker was the ugliest computer case of all time." Qrium: "Hold my blender pitcher."

@souljastation5463

3 жыл бұрын

This is not nearly as ugly

@dhpbear2

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, you're right! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_Walker

Not gonna lie, you had me in the first half!

It's a blast knowing you're in Portland too! Keep up the great work! I just found the channel and know I'll be driving my family crazy watching your videos :-D

I love everything about your intro: it's brief, it has a great soundtrack, looks like it was shot on VHS, and has great example clips of what we're gonna see on your channel.

@kaitlyn__L

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure it's a real recording of VHS, all the digital filters have too much chromatic aberration while looking too sharp, and too many little glitches but also lacking the consistent bottom few lines being black/static. But the intro has all of those features. So I think he took the time to record a tape and then digitise it back again, which is awesome.

Perhaps if you install Windows 2000 it will detect and install the drivers for the Modem and other stuff automatically.

@paulstubbs2778

3 жыл бұрын

Is there anything left that you can dial into with a modem?

@TheAkashicTraveller

Жыл бұрын

@@paulstubbs2778 There's probably a bunch of random modern stuff run by enthusiasts plus the odd ARG.

Pretty sure the soundcard was on IRQ 9 not the normal 5. Edit: just watched the vid again and at 25:39 it deffo says IRQ9 in the device manager

@Cherijo78

3 жыл бұрын

I was pulling my hair on this too screaming at the TV, "Try IRQ9?!!". Adrian truly is experiencing the classic DOS on a late 2000 "Legacy Free" PC. We will use strange IRQs because we can! We don't care about Legacy!

@erik365365365

3 жыл бұрын

So would this fix the adlib?

@ovalteen4404

3 жыл бұрын

@@erik365365365 No, Adlib doesn't require an IRQ. Also, if there's SB emulation for DOS, it doesn't necessarily have to use the same IRQ as the hardware, since the DOS program will be talking to a virtual device instead of the real hardware.

I’ve been looking for this thing for years, they were a funky pc for living spaces like a kitchen etc. I wish I could find one so much, they come up on eBay at random but they usually are dead with bits missing

@frinklefoot2112

Жыл бұрын

my stepdad passed away left year and left one of these in the basement.

I'll be honest of all the #DOSCember videos, this was the one I was looking forward too the most. I had a friend in the late 90's who bought one of these "bare bones" / Appliance PC's just to take apart. first PC i'd ever seen without PS/2 it was very similar. Great video :)

Unknown Devices is the BEST!! Nothing like a good driver chase to get everything working, I live for that!

Oh boy did you take me back through the years. I went through all the issues you had, driving me mad, but watching again is fun. The days they tried to dress up a pc by designing the case to look futuristic but kept the inside as cheap as possible. Profit based economics of the 90's yes? Great video though and thanks for the memories.

.... Well done Mate, a nice blend of diagnostics without adding agitation into the mix.

3D depth is a really awesome thing that somehow made the audio from those old computers, mainly laptops with dual speaker outputs, seem 3D or like surround sound. I found that out randomly with an ancient HP laptop. It was the coolest thing ever. Surround sound with two junky internal speakers from a 90's laptop. Insane stuff.

i love little machines like this! its just so much fun trying to upgrade them as far as they'll go (without butchering it) and using them as little convenient go betweens for modern machines and more vintage rigs :D

"Welcome to Adrian's Digital..." turns slowly to look suspiciously at the blender "...Kitchen."

30:00 Not too long ago, I added experimental MIDI support into Planet X3. It's not quite done yet (especially some General MIDI tunes still need to be converted from the MT-32, and there still may be some bugs), but if you're interested, you can grab it over on the Planet X3 Facebook group :)

Great DOS content!

I love that PC. Great job rescuing it.

I have a lil' cube PC in my junk pile, I'm inspired to pull it out now! Thanks Adrian!😅

This is a machine that was part of an initiative by Intel and several PC manufacturers to remove what they determined to by "legacy" ports from PCs. This included MIDI/Game Ports, Parallel Printer Ports and COM Ports. It kind of worked as PCs today also lack those ports.

Brilliant video

You can always google the hardware ID to figure out what you got. Also, the W98 unofficial Service pack copies the usb driver from Winme.

I miss windows 95 and Windows 98 and computer stores. This was a fun video. Keep up the good work.

31:45 "Who wants to play this with no digital sound?" So it's Twitch ready, by sounds of it 👀

The MIDI of Windows 95/97 was devastating, so someone in Finland created TiMIDIty which use Gravid Ultrasound sound PAT, it work really awesome until the Foobar2000 MIDI support with BASSMID and soundfont which complete replace it.

One option in case you think you may have similar power issues in the future, may be to use a bench power supply with a set of laptop power connectors, I got the latter for around $13-15 on ebay with the necessary cable/banana plugs. That may you can have way more control over the power voltage/amps rather than messing around with different adapters.

These 'legacy-free' PCs were made to surf the web and not much else, they were not really intended to replace regular PCs but for people who never had a PC.

@adriansdigitalbasement

3 жыл бұрын

That is a perfect summary!

You had me fooled with the "blender" thing. I started in computers in the mid 70's and I was thinking, "Was there a computer that came and went that I didn't know about?!!". You could have set your blender behind the computer and with just the right camera angle you could have made it look like the computer was actually blending something.

Internet browsing. That’s really all it would have been used for. It’s amazing that the common phone/tablet has entirely replaced this device.

You're really got me for a second I really thought that was a blender

AH! I used to work at Intel (Jones Farm in Oregon) and remember fishing one of these out of the recycling one day after lunch (Josh? You still have that thing?). Except it wasn't exactly this one, I don't think, but a prototype. It didn't have any indicia on it, probably in the interest of fair judging. The model we rescued was pitched to Intel by the manufacturer as part of an Intel design innovation award thing, hence the funky look and colors. And yes, they were absolutely yellow, not beige. It was the end of the 90s, man. As far as I can recall, Daewoo did win an award for their design (in... 2000?) and... there were some other, uglier boxes we didn't rescue. It was the cusp of a very brief 'mini PC/server' phase - some may remember HP's tiny cube server, for instance, that came soon after. Intel was, I think, looking to drive interest in a market that was sort of stagnating while waiting on the Pentium 4 (which was the division I worked in: PMD).

I think this is the original colour, and not yellowed - purple and yellow is a pretty bold colour scheme! www.infohq.com/Computer/CompGraphics/intelconcept/daewoo_qrium_663n.jpg

@adventureoflinkmk2

3 жыл бұрын

I'd have to agree, that yellow and purple are pulled off nicely

@adriansdigitalbasement

3 жыл бұрын

Heh. I’m honestly not sure what they were thinking. I find it very off putting!

@rastislavzima

3 жыл бұрын

Retrobrighting will reveal the truth. ;-)

Oh a great idea.... Adrian's Culinary Kitchen 😁 Thank you for this video.

OMG A QRIUM!! I had one as a child, and since it looked like a face and I had no way of pronuncing its name and being a child I used to call it Geek. I've been trying to find another one after losing the original one with no luck. Its so nostalgic to see one.

I almost got one of these for my mom around 2002. It was always a creamy color. I couldn't justify spending like $100 on a used one, so I gave her some off-brand all-in-one system with a touchscreen for around the same price.

DOScember is cool! Great Video!

Nice looking 90s retro kids PC! I love it!

Once the purple side panels were off, I could see another pair of flanges towards the front bottom that I’ll bet were the needed screws to release the front / top panel from the chassis. Oh, and I never liked that particular series of Maxtor drive. We had a non trivial number of failures of that style of drive when I worked in IT at a nonprofit.

Great video, this pc is very cool

They are a bit larger, but your issues with this type of mini PC, are among the main reasons why I settled on a Shuttle XPC for my 98SE/Dos PC. The way I see it, its easy enough to make a 98SE pc, but for most people, its likely to see little use if its a tower they have to keep lugging around and keep connecting and disconnecting due to space constraints, so is likely to end up just being put away and rarely used. That's why I advise people to try for a mini PC as its small and not to big a hassle to move about, and can in many cases just be left on the desk or under it as it takes up very little space, meaning its on hand and will get more use. The shuttle XPCs solve the main issues with mini PCs like this one as they come with 2 expansion slots, so you can pop in a video and sound card, plus the drivers are still available and easy to find.

Very sneaky Adrian!! Only a retro user would think those yellow panels need retrobriting!!

Welcome to Adrian's Digital Kitchen. Lets see what we can cook up today. First, we'll bake some chips in a toaster oven. Then throw some files in the blender and see if we can boot up some lunch. As always, great video. Take care.

It's so funny that this extremely proprietary small form factor computer from the '90s from a weird company you've never heard of is still more upgradable than a lot of modern machines.

"When I think of possible uses for this computer..." Might I suggest a door stopper? That is, if you don't mind the door touching that thing. 😁

I think you're right in that in the era with all the cost cutting that was done to it these did become commodity no interest PCs. However, I find them interesting now precisely because of that. This particular era at the turn of the millennium was very interesting when they tried to market these as "Legacy Free". There were lots of no name weird parts and drivers running around. Lots of them used non-standard IRQs, which is what I see was going on with the sound card using IRQ9 instead of the standard IRQ5 (I didn't see you test that when you were doing the settings for the DOS games and that may have been part of your problem). It introduced all sorts of things that made them incompatible with previous PCs. It was a changeover era where we were leaving floppies behind leaving all of the legacy things behind and just starting to embark in the new era of plug and play. This is the reality of most modern PCs. We are still in that commodity PC era where unless you build your own, or order a special customized one for gaming, the vast majority of PCs that are sold today are commodities. They don't do lots of fancy gaming or anything. They just do productivity and/or some very light gaming. I find it fascinating the way the PC market split along these lines and it started right around here.

This machine is so weirdly 90s style, I love it 😁

Great video! What a cool little PC! I didn't know that the bearing in a a PC fan could overheat.

@eDoc2020

3 жыл бұрын

It can happen, I've even seen a graphics card fan which got burnt to a crisp. Old PC fans will drive full current through their coils when stalled. Newer ones are smarter, they'll shut off power for a second if a stall is detected.

@dave4shmups

3 жыл бұрын

@@eDoc2020 I didn’t know that. Were there graphics cards that were small enough to fit inside this PC?

@eDoc2020

3 жыл бұрын

@@dave4shmups I think the only expansion this has is the mini-PCI networking slot and I don't think there are any graphics cards in that from factor.

That machine was never intended to run games, it was an Internet terminal, an office machine and maybe used for connecting to some remote desktop. This was a working machine that was supposed to look fancy on the front desk.

Really liked this video, fun and learning. Back in that era I was only interested in playing games and not the ins and outs of hardware software side. As for the machine, I thinks it's concept was way ahead of its time. Although this one was made on a budget, the was a time recently where pc's were made in small form factors and small cases both commercially and in the diy scene. Cool.

It is the Betty Crocker Kitchen Blinder PC. Good for locking up recipes and blinding things. LOL :P

I would love to build a modern PC inside that challenging case design. Would be such a superb build. What a lovely machine!

@CommodoreFan64

3 жыл бұрын

an AMD APU Mini ITX board would be neet with a Blu-ray burner just to fill that slot.

The first result on Google search shows that the original color is yellow.

Hey Adrian, I'm not 100% sure of this, but try this command in the autoexec.bat file; SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 T4 P330 I've never seen the BLASTER command without SET before it. Not sure if this is the problem or not, but it might be worth a try. Good luck. Love that tiny PC by the way - a really cool find!

I do like the style of this PC.

Remarkable shape 😃

Duke sound might work if you boot to DOS to run it. Loved the teardown of this oddball PC, with bonus Midi party!

@adriansdigitalbasement

3 жыл бұрын

Sadly this type of sound circuitry requires driver emulation to work, meaning it won't work at all outside of Windows

@mrcassioo

3 жыл бұрын

@@adriansdigitalbasement But did you really try the right IRQ? I remember how that could always be weird back in the day (IRQ5/IRQ9)

How curious! I wouldn't mind to have one at all!

Fun fact: Intel's i810 chipset was the first to include their now-ubiquitous onboard intel graphics. Their previous attempts at video were actually AGP/PCI cards, the i740 and 752.

According to some pictures from that era, that is actually the color as intended. Very forward thinking by Daewoo, no worries about yellowing. :) Would make a nice sleeper PC, perhaps, mini-ITX or such. Or, DOS gaming, as appropriate. Compact little thing.

This is the Adrian version of oddware! Wonderful!

Since you asked. Yes, I did have one of these back in the early 2000's. Bought it for my dad for basic email and internet tasks. At the time it worked pretty good. As you noted though, it wasn't very upgrade friendly. It wouldn't even take 512 MB of RAM.... Finally upgraded to something better a few years later. Nice compact size though.

I do love the case design😍 Want to see something like that today. In my opion the end of 90s, beginning 2000 has some of the most unique and beautiful case design for computer and laptops till today. -tian

you had me fooled for a whole minute!

What a cool looking computer ...

Still love the way it looks. It was probably mega-cheap for the time and it was an attempt towards a small form factor all-in-one like the Barbie and Hot Wheels branded toy PCs that came out in the late 1990s. Still a GREAT video and an excellent way to celebrate DOSember. I loved me some Jazz Jackrabbit and Commander Keen back in the day! Have a Cool Yule! ☃️🛷⛸🎄🚴‍♂️

I've heard "Passport" so many times in the last 20+ years....wasnt until today I realized it sounds like something Harold Faltermeyer could have written...its probably because of the wavetable that ac97 sound device uses but still cool heh. Love the vids! Thanks!

I got to see one of these at like a computer vendor meetup back in the 90s. I remember it being much more pyramidal than this, but this is indeed the device. If I'm not mistaken, this is based on a computer concept by Intel, kind of as a response to the iMac but not completely. The idea was to make a device that's compact, easy to use, and goes all-in on USB. The model units by Intel were that distinct Intel blue, instead of yellow and purple. Daewoo was the only company with the balls to bring it to market as far as I can tell, but it was also sold as a white box machine for smaller vendors. I believe Computer Shopper magazine reported on the Intel concept back in the mid-late 90s, but I can't remember the name of that initiative for the life of me. Mind you, I was a 90s kid. There's a lot I'm probably misremembering.

You got me with that blender, I believed it

The industrial designer in me love the design 🔥