The bizarre mystery of the pink Moonshot puzzle

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  • @KarenPuzzles
    @KarenPuzzles3 ай бұрын

    Thanks to Mistplay for sponsoring this video! Download the app for free here: mistplay.com/puzzles and use my code PUZZLES50 inside the app for 50 extra points! Code expires 6/30/24. Limited quantities available & valid for new users only. One more note about this app - it will encourage you to spend money in the games to earn bigger rewards. This is not necessary and you can still earn rewards by playing for free.

  • @icturner23

    @icturner23

    3 ай бұрын

    I clicked on your link but it’s not available in my country. :-(

  • @TheyLoveThemLLC

    @TheyLoveThemLLC

    3 ай бұрын

    This is true for anyone wondering. I downloaded Mistplay from the last time they sponsored Karen, and they're legitimate. You can earn the units completely free by simply playing games, and you don't have to spend money! I earned $35 in about a week by just casually playing different games to level 5 and then deleting them. I don't play as much now, but I did fall in love with ONE mobile game from my time doing it (Love & Pies) and I still play that for fun! Anyway if you're looking for a few extra bucks for something like puzzles, I second this sponsor and app.

  • @kimberleyligtvoet9049

    @kimberleyligtvoet9049

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@icturner23same here :(

  • @cbongiova

    @cbongiova

    3 ай бұрын

    The pink puzzle doesn’t match the photo on the box. Would be interesting to know why. I don’t think it’s just a print error. It might have been meant to be pink.

  • @jcortese3300
    @jcortese33003 ай бұрын

    It definitely strikes me as a situation like: "We ran out of ink!" "I don't care, run it with the ink we have, we have shipping quotes to make."

  • @jasonsumma1530

    @jasonsumma1530

    3 ай бұрын

    It could also be a situation where it would have cost way too much to scrap the pink ones and replace them so they went with what they had. I also believe during that time there was a cardboard shortage in both the USA and Britain so whatever cardboard they had, it had to be used wisely.

  • @timellington4887

    @timellington4887

    3 ай бұрын

    To me, no detail in the pink version makes me think something else. Take any photo and photoshop it to a single color and there is still a sign of detail throughout the image. The non pink images had detail in some areas but not others. I think they swapped images entirely myself.

  • @thomashenden71

    @thomashenden71

    3 ай бұрын

    Are we doing puzzle conspiracy theories now? 😅

  • @LOSTmyHOST

    @LOSTmyHOST

    3 ай бұрын

    Thought exactly the same. Even the box had a lighter color and the impresion look like that for the lack of yellow ink 😂

  • @LOSTmyHOST

    @LOSTmyHOST

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@timellington4887 Nah, you can see this picture in PS it need to be in CYMK and turn of yellow and black channel to get this pink, they definetly run out of ink 😂

  • @KarenPuzzles
    @KarenPuzzles3 ай бұрын

    Guys, this is such a weird coincidence. Right after I finished and uploaded this video, I was looking at photos of the Awful Optic and Red Eye puzzles because someone left a comment about them on a different video, and I realized those two puzzles also used the same die cut! Even though they were released by a company called Bandwagon and not by American Publishing. I have both puzzles, so I think I’ll have to solve them in another video and then do a full comparison between all of them. If anyone knows of any other vintage puzzles using this same die cut, please let me know.

  • @robine916

    @robine916

    3 ай бұрын

    Since you mentioned they changed the die cut a couple years later, could the second company have purchased the old ones? Or maybe The first company had a side hustle cutting puzzles for another company?

  • @fikanera838

    @fikanera838

    3 ай бұрын

    Looking forward to that! 🧩

  • @Tahgtahv

    @Tahgtahv

    3 ай бұрын

    Man, these companies are hard to track down. This is compounded by the fact that there is a new company in 1992 called American Publishing Corp. At any rate, American Publishing was in Waltham/Waterville, MA (they are only 3 miles apart, so likely they just had multiple departments). They were acquired by what is now known as Bits and Pieces. Bandwagon Manufacturing, Inc was based in Boston MA, only about 12 miles away, founded around 1950. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they used the exact same equipment over the same time period.

  • @jello3456543

    @jello3456543

    3 ай бұрын

    I'll bet one of the two companies subcontracted the print run to the other one (or both subbed the printing out to the same 3rd company). The change to the 1968 cut may mean that American changed printing subs that year.

  • @theaudiobookaficionado
    @theaudiobookaficionado3 ай бұрын

    My only thought is that whatever happened (ink ran out, printer was set incorrectly, cartridges loaded incorrectly) that they must have accidentally printed SO many incorrectly that they couldn't afford to remake the product and just decided nobody would care/notice

  • @Kumagoro42

    @Kumagoro42

    3 ай бұрын

    I also think they evaluated the damage, decided that the wrong puzzle still looked cute and wouldn't be badly received, so they went with it.

  • @awebmate

    @awebmate

    Ай бұрын

    My guess is that they printed The Moon Shot puzzle with the colors or settings for the Purple Passion puzzle.

  • @JustFreddi
    @JustFreddi3 ай бұрын

    In the height of the space race, a mole in the printing company, a forgotten Cold War spy, decided to leave his own mark on history. In a bold move to signal a secret moon alliance, he switched the color plates, resulting in pink puzzles. The message? The moon is neutral territory, and it's dressing for the peace party of the century.

  • @sonjanaugler244
    @sonjanaugler2443 ай бұрын

    Love it when you get the Sherlock Holmes hat out.

  • @KarenPuzzles

    @KarenPuzzles

    3 ай бұрын

    I love a good puzzle mystery.

  • @IGDZILLA

    @IGDZILLA

    3 ай бұрын

    Which Sherlock Holmes NEVER wore in any of the original stories. The deerstalker is not mentioned even. This is like "Beam me up Scotty" (Star Trek), or "Play it again Sam" (Casablanca) as something that just never happened.

  • @jordanwilson6490

    @jordanwilson6490

    3 ай бұрын

    @@IGDZILLAgo away

  • @GuyWithTheDogs

    @GuyWithTheDogs

    3 ай бұрын

    @@IGDZILLA Every party has a pooper...

  • @jlilley73
    @jlilley733 ай бұрын

    Maybe there were also blue versions of the puzzle out there, but you'd only find one ... once in a blue moon 😉

  • @jonaclausson6698
    @jonaclausson66983 ай бұрын

    1967: "Boss, we made a mistake, half of the Pzzles are now printed in pink" "Ah, don't matter, we're gonna sell them anyway, nobody is ever gonna notice." 2024: "Why are some Puzzles pink?" Seriously, the images are truely different, it's not just a printingmistake.

  • @Kalmakka
    @Kalmakka3 ай бұрын

    I suspect that the reason why the cuts look the same but are actually a bit off, is that during the manufacturing process the circular cuts are made separately from the radial cuts. This would also explain why the radial cuts needed to be made a little bit longer than they ought to be, in order to accomodate for the puzzle shifting between the two cuts.

  • @KarenPuzzles

    @KarenPuzzles

    3 ай бұрын

    That's a great point that I didn't think of. I think you're right.

  • @rjmunro

    @rjmunro

    3 ай бұрын

    @@KarenPuzzles Does that mean you could extract an entire ring from one puzzle and it would fit into one of the others? Are the centre pieces interchangeable?

  • @puzzling_art
    @puzzling_art3 ай бұрын

    I don’t think any other explanation is needed other than it was the 60s. A psychedelic moon may not have been the intent but once it happened the production team was like, “Man, a pink moon, how cool, let’s keep it.”

  • @Kumagoro42

    @Kumagoro42

    3 ай бұрын

    "Man, why didn't we think of that to begin with!"

  • @bobair2
    @bobair23 ай бұрын

    The pink version has the best detail and if it is an error all the better. If you find printing errors with money or postage stamps, they can be worth some serious money. Nice video,Karen.

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy.3 ай бұрын

    0:27 BARBIE’S DREAM MOON is simply the best! All of us are going to get Pink Boiler Suits.

  • @shannonlanghart346
    @shannonlanghart3463 ай бұрын

    We need a vintage puzzle museum. That would be so cool!

  • @thomashenden71

    @thomashenden71

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes, we are looking at you, @Karenpuzzles ! 😂

  • @Fivelein
    @Fivelein3 ай бұрын

    I don't think it was a mistake since they used a different photo for all the pink ones. All the brown ones have those three distinct craters, all the pink ones show a side of the moon that has a lot more craters. I think they just printed a second version, and printing only with one color is cheaper than with two. In the closeups it looks like the brown is made up of red and black, not magenta and black, so they didn't just forget or run out of black, it would be red then instead of magenta. When you are not printing regular full-color pictures, you can use whatever colors (spot colors) you like - in this case red instead of magenta. Still weird that they didn't change the preview picture though! Probably also to save money? Even today there are puzzles where the art on the box is not exactly the same as on the puzzle for no obvious reason (for example Coppenrath's Sherlock Holmes puzzle).

  • @pjbrady47

    @pjbrady47

    3 ай бұрын

    I was thinking the pink was a completely different image as well. I couldn't see enough similarities between the two, even accounting for the contrast differences.

  • @frankbeach
    @frankbeach3 ай бұрын

    I watched the Pink Panther movie last night, so with Pink Panther on the brain, it was one of his antics. Makes sense, since he was around in the 60s.

  • @InvestigatingDavidCrowley
    @InvestigatingDavidCrowley3 ай бұрын

    Since I was alive in 1966/67 (LOL UGH, aging myself here), my best guess about the pink moon puzzle would be - they loved bright colors back then. I mean, everything was bright. Neon colors were the rage. Maybe that's why? Or, I like your idea of it being one guy in the room and he just said, "Eh, let's just sell them."

  • @lucascarvalho8313

    @lucascarvalho8313

    3 ай бұрын

    Age is just a number and random pains 😂

  • @Kumagoro42

    @Kumagoro42

    3 ай бұрын

    What you say is absolutely possible, but then the mystery becomes why they didn't print ALL of the run as a pink moon.

  • @xungnham1388
    @xungnham13883 ай бұрын

    That pink and brown images are most definitely not the same image.

  • @YouKnow-bm7di
    @YouKnow-bm7di3 ай бұрын

    Occam‘s razor… it was that one guy who messed up and said I’m not fixing it so ship it!

  • @Artsyfandom

    @Artsyfandom

    3 ай бұрын

    I think it’s pretty lol

  • @silentspeaker0156
    @silentspeaker01563 ай бұрын

    The pink is honestly so pretty though

  • @KarenPuzzles

    @KarenPuzzles

    3 ай бұрын

    I know, I really like it! I wish they had designed a special edition of the box too 😂

  • @galaxia4709

    @galaxia4709

    3 ай бұрын

    And in the 70's pink was definitely in fashion :)

  • @AbramSF
    @AbramSF3 ай бұрын

    They used up all their other dot colors on the purple passion puzzles.

  • @tori-uc9hl
    @tori-uc9hl3 ай бұрын

    For the other proof of completion, I was thinking maybe people made rubbings of the finished puzzle. Like laying paper over it and then scribbling over it with a crayon.

  • @KarenPuzzles

    @KarenPuzzles

    3 ай бұрын

    That sounds way easier than trying to trace every piece!

  • @pistelli57
    @pistelli573 ай бұрын

    I don't care too much about solving puzzles, but I watch all your videos because you are the most enjoyable and sympathetic person I have ever seen. Your happiness doing what you do is contagious.

  • @craft_gal
    @craft_gal3 ай бұрын

    When I used to commission printing (20+ years ago, just before we could get digital printing easily and cheaply), a one colour print was always cheaper than four colour printing. Goes through the press once, rather than four times...

  • @ellenem2288

    @ellenem2288

    3 ай бұрын

    And I suspect the not-pink moon is actually a two-color job, perhaps magenta and black, or magenta and a match color. Many print jobs in those days were two-color, using black and a match color.

  • @KDVoller
    @KDVoller3 ай бұрын

    Okay here is another spin, back in 1967, no one really knew what color the moon was, they used to tell us it was made of green cheese... So.... why not pink cotton candy.

  • @SpatialHeather
    @SpatialHeather3 ай бұрын

    For the varying die-cuts, they could have been printing 4 or 6 puzzles "per sheet" with multiple dies that might have started or been intended to be "identical" but got warped over time with usage, or dented up a little bit even before install. If they're printing circles it seems way more economical to print many at once and utilize the space between the puzzles instead of having 22% of a square sheet be off-cuts.

  • @johnvann7027
    @johnvann70273 ай бұрын

    A pink moon is the first full moon of northern spring (April).

  • @weronika01212
    @weronika012123 ай бұрын

    I wish I lived in the USA in the 60s, 70s etc and loved puzzles, especially solid color ones, so that now I could give all of them to you! The passion you have for vintage puzzles is super fascinating and I absolutely adore that you post about it too

  • @jonnyboom5993

    @jonnyboom5993

    3 ай бұрын

    Me too and I dont even do puzzles. I like vintage history of anything.

  • @parker3293
    @parker32933 ай бұрын

    The pink 'This is fine' meme took me out 😭

  • @feuilletoniste

    @feuilletoniste

    3 ай бұрын

    I loved that bit too!

  • @markdukeshire4812
    @markdukeshire48123 ай бұрын

    I think the strategies and resources for solving puzzles have evolved since that puzzle was released. Until I discovered your videos, I had no idea how fast puzzles could be completed! One of the positives that the internet has brought us is sharing tips and tricks. Thanks for sharing your moon puzzles!

  • @ilbabo2218
    @ilbabo22183 ай бұрын

    4:15 omg I'm getting called out! I'm doing my daily Flow puzzles while watching/listening! 🤯

  • @LePinkCanary
    @LePinkCanary3 ай бұрын

    The husband points out that the pink one is an image of the Back Side of the Moon. :D which is kinda cool. I love the pink.

  • @OrigamiMarie

    @OrigamiMarie

    3 ай бұрын

    Aha! That makes sense, it was pretty clear to me that they were very different pictures. And I remember hearing that the far side of the moon has a bunch more craters because of course, the meteors and stuff come from the space side, not the earth side.

  • @DeannaDoomosaur

    @DeannaDoomosaur

    3 ай бұрын

    That actually makes so much sense. To me, this feels like a marketing gimmick. All of the boxes are the same, but you'll receive either the normal moon image or the special magenta far side of the moon image. The space race was huge in pop culture in the 60s, and we only had access to images of the far side of the moon for a year or two at that point. Not sure why they would have chosen magenta, but as others have pointed out, it would be cheaper to print with one color and bright colors were trendy in the 60s.

  • @vanhouten64

    @vanhouten64

    3 ай бұрын

    Lol, he was mistaken. The pink puzzle shows a small portion of the near face of the moon. At 15:23: the 'Sea' (flat, uncratered area) along the right side is Mare Nubium. Tycho is the large crater with prominent central peak just to the left of center. The prominent pair of craters towards the edge at about the 5:00 position are Werner and Aliacensis. The other puzzle shows a portion of Mare Imbrium. At 10:39 Aristillus, Autolycus, and Archimedes are the triangle of craters at upper-left. The peninsula at bottom center is Laplace Promontory.

  • @DeannaDoomosaur

    @DeannaDoomosaur

    3 ай бұрын

    @@vanhouten64 I'm impressed by that amount of knowledge of the moon's features! I still think it might have been a marketing gimmick, but it's much less impressive than it would have been with the far side of the moon lol

  • @pelahnar4

    @pelahnar4

    3 ай бұрын

    @@DeannaDoomosaurhow could it be a marketing gimmick when nothing about the marketing alludes to it?

  • @dawnchesbro4189
    @dawnchesbro41893 ай бұрын

    The pink moon does indeed look like its a completely different image. I took an embarrassing amount of time looking at the side by side and comparing topographic points of interest. In my (very) unscientific opinion, they aren't the same image. Like if you took the two photos into photoshop, lined the puzzle cut up exactly, turned the opacity for each layer down to 50%, they likely won't create a perfect match image between the two puzzles. Am i that much of a nerd to do that myself? Quite possibly. If you see an edit with my findings, youll know 😉

  • @KarenPuzzles

    @KarenPuzzles

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes, I got an email from someone who matched up both images to a picture of the moon and they are from different parts of the moon. It just gets stranger and stranger...

  • @xoxjanjounxox
    @xoxjanjounxox3 ай бұрын

    Their was a blood moon (pink moon) in april 1967. So since the copies/pictures look different, and the pink ones doesn't seem to have tons of them, my bet is that the printing was not a mistake.

  • @KarenPuzzles

    @KarenPuzzles

    3 ай бұрын

    Interesting! I would think they would have marked that on the box though, even if it was just a special edition sticker or something similar.

  • @xoxjanjounxox

    @xoxjanjounxox

    3 ай бұрын

    @KarenPuzzles True. It would have made sense since, in my theory, they went all the way into changing the design and the color of the puzzle, even changing the color of the box, but not the labeling. Maybe it is a marketing strategy, mystery type box? 🤔 🤣🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @melanierimmer1744

    @melanierimmer1744

    3 ай бұрын

    Maybe they meant to release it as a special pink moon version, but then someone screwed up and the two sets of boxes got mixed up. They couldn’t be bothered to open every single one to figure out which was pink, so they just sold them as they were.

  • @officialmariamusic
    @officialmariamusic3 ай бұрын

    Love the "mystery puzzles" and when you get your detective hat out! Please bring us more of that. And more of your sister Katie!! ❤❤❤

  • @malsambir
    @malsambir3 ай бұрын

    9:36 definitely a good marketing tactic to keep people coming back!

  • @twizzles11

    @twizzles11

    3 ай бұрын

    I think even with only 200+ pieces , it still would have taken me more than the average time of 3 hours printed on the side of the can. 🤣

  • @johnjenkins9445
    @johnjenkins94453 ай бұрын

    great NASA shirt! love the space cameo!! :)

  • @MariaHernandez-fk1on
    @MariaHernandez-fk1on3 ай бұрын

    Moon! I don't know what happened there, but if i was boss in that puzzle factory, I would be like "You know what? I actually like pink way more! " 😅 I want to believe, their boss also was pink lover like me😂

  • @biaberg3448
    @biaberg34483 ай бұрын

    I live in a small village in Norway, some weeks ago I was looking at puzzles in my local bookstore, and they had one of your puzzles. One of those on the shelf behind you. I was a bit astonished 😯. But I reckon they are in many countries around the globe.

  • @KarenPuzzles

    @KarenPuzzles

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes, Ravensburger sells their puzzles all over the world. I'm so happy it made it to you in Norway!

  • @SorwestChannel
    @SorwestChannel3 ай бұрын

    I don't get why they didn't change the box design to say "comes with a random puzzle from this selection: Moonshot, Ice Cream"

  • @HGD70
    @HGD703 ай бұрын

    You could do a rubbing of the puzzle for proof, like they do for petroglyphs.

  • @1Fmarcel
    @1Fmarcel3 ай бұрын

    Quite a big rabbit hole with vintage puzzles, you have fallen into.

  • @FluffyLlamacorn
    @FluffyLlamacorn3 ай бұрын

    Honestly, that pink moon puzzle is just so much more pretty than the darker one? If I was getting one, I'd absolutely want the pink version. The only strange thing is that they didn't promote it at all, so it probably has to be a printer mistake that no one cared/dared to admit?

  • @MPbmfm
    @MPbmfm3 ай бұрын

    The brown one is from the front of the moon and the pink one is from the backside (the dark side) of the moon Could this be some kind of "If you're lucky then you'll have bought the special secret version of this puzzle"?

  • @amandar283

    @amandar283

    3 ай бұрын

    I think the brown one is of the Mare Imbrium, and the pink one is of the Tycho crater. Both near side of the moon.

  • @TubbyJ420
    @TubbyJ4203 ай бұрын

    Awesome, i found the Moonshot to be the coolest puzzle in last weeks collection video. Glad to see it so fast!

  • @victor-charlesscafati
    @victor-charlesscafati3 ай бұрын

    I would have guessed that the pink puzzle was exposed to sunlight for a long period of time to cause fading, but there's two reasons that theory fails. The first is-red pigment is the one that fades the fastest in UV, so magenta would have gone first, not last. The second is-you have found so many examples that show very similar fading so it is unlikely they befell the same fate. So.. now my theory is that, rather than having run out of cyan and yellow ink (how disorganized do you need to be to manage that?) I think that the cyan and yellow offset plates were damaged. These plates have to be created through a photographic/emulsive/etch process, so they would not have been easy to replace. if they got damaged in the printing process, maybe they just kept on printing with magenta only.

  • @KarenPuzzles

    @KarenPuzzles

    3 ай бұрын

    Very interesting. I'm not as familiar with this type of printing, but I think that's a great theory.

  • @patmurkland4161

    @patmurkland4161

    3 ай бұрын

    I agree with this theory

  • @jessicablack
    @jessicablack3 ай бұрын

    Love your videos! I just found my first Eaton puzzle at the thrift store this week! I think I've found my new obsession lol

  • @KarenPuzzles

    @KarenPuzzles

    3 ай бұрын

    Love it! Which one did you get?

  • @jessicablack

    @jessicablack

    3 ай бұрын

    @@KarenPuzzles Nuts! (1984)

  • @wyrmhand

    @wyrmhand

    3 ай бұрын

    @@jessicablackI directly thought of the movie The Nut Job (2014) 😅

  • @evapunk522

    @evapunk522

    3 ай бұрын

    This makes me wanna start looking for puzzles in the little events in my area where people sell all their vintage stuff. I actually know what to look for now when it comes to puzzles!

  • @hotdesertmopars

    @hotdesertmopars

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@evapunk522 I get a lot of great puzzles at thrift shops. Most are complete, or have "missing 1 piece" written on the box. It is fun to find treasures!

  • @rhiannonchiacchiaro6352
    @rhiannonchiacchiaro63523 ай бұрын

    OK so I actually used to work in Waltham, down the street from where American Publishing once was. It's in the Watch Factory building, which has since split into different apartments and businesses (it was originally America's first big watchmaking town, and there is now a museum about Watch City). The building was sold in 1961 to the First Republic Corporation of America. Also funny, we're talking about moon puzzles and this was on Crescent St. My theory is that the diehard fans of the watch factory were so mad that the building was sold that they stole as much ink as they could to shutter the publisher. Unfortunately, they missed some of it, mostly a big box of magenta, so the publishers just had to make do.

  • @KarenPuzzles

    @KarenPuzzles

    3 ай бұрын

    I was wondering if I might reach somebody who lived locally to the address. I love all this background info!

  • @troyallen4868
    @troyallen48683 ай бұрын

    I find your YT channel strangely soothing, keep it up! 😃

  • @Emma-vw2xh
    @Emma-vw2xh3 ай бұрын

    Moon…I have a vintage jigsaw that I thought I had lost and so hunted out on the internet, only to find my original copy years later. I did them both side by side and it’s the same exact image with totally different cuts. One was produced in England and one in Ireland. Sadly my original that was my mums and I appropriated has 2 pieces missing. It’s still interesting to compare them though as the wording and info layout on each box is slightly different too.

  • @SuperMatyoO
    @SuperMatyoO3 ай бұрын

    The misprint is a puzzle in itself =P Love you, Karen. Keep up the amazing content !

  • @likeasignalflare
    @likeasignalflare3 ай бұрын

    If you look at 17:18, you can see they are totally different photographs.

  • @qdm44
    @qdm443 ай бұрын

    I'd like to take a moment to appreciate the outlines featured in the video. How long did it take to reproduce them? With DIFFERENT COLORS for the lines cut. For the weird color puzzles being sold: maybe the quality control worker was color blind. 🌒

  • @KarenPuzzles

    @KarenPuzzles

    3 ай бұрын

    Too long, especially for the short amount of time it ended up in the video 😅

  • @Drew_Snydermann
    @Drew_Snydermann3 ай бұрын

    Maybe the pink puzzle was a promotional advertising run for a company, like Mary Kay, or some other company using pink branding. As for proof of completion, film cameras and Polaroid cameras were somewhat common then, as were mail-in promotions. All we had was snail mail and getting stuff in the mail was extra fun, especially for kids. Many toys had mail-in promotions, I joined the Gi-Joe club in the early 1970s by mail, still have the certificate.

  • @kated47
    @kated473 ай бұрын

    I love your vintage obsession - it makes for such enjoyable videos! I was thinking, the magenta moon puzzle might be like that because of fading from light exposure. I feel like I’ve seen posters from the 60s-70s that were red and maroon, but faded to pink.

  • @brandispotsandplants
    @brandispotsandplants3 ай бұрын

    Wow you put so much work into your videos! Moon!

  • @brianfolsom9799
    @brianfolsom97993 ай бұрын

    I recommend this app for my 2 nieces and 1 nephew (Dakota, December and Daisy). Everyone including myself love jigsaw puzzles. Love the piece shapes!

  • @icturner23
    @icturner233 ай бұрын

    Loved this video. The magenta reminds me so much of my first job, which was on a puzzle magazine. We only used black, magenta and cyan, and not overlapping, in order to make printing easier.

  • @Zusie
    @Zusie3 ай бұрын

    Is it even the same image? Maybe this is actually a dark side and light side set?

  • @mcbash

    @mcbash

    3 ай бұрын

    I agree. The pink puzzle is a completely different image

  • @jollyjokress3852
    @jollyjokress38523 ай бұрын

    I totally love your videos!

  • @tunacupcakeable
    @tunacupcakeable3 ай бұрын

    What a fun video! So interesting to hear that the pink was easier than the original version! Also, I won’t take any credit, but I feel so heard - thank you for changing the audio when you place the pieces. Rather than the loud “tok tok” ka-thunking of pieces down, you changed it to placing and pushing it down. Feels so much calmer and less percussive to watch 😊 Thanks again for this vid, Karen!

  • @rayumbandismos4947
    @rayumbandismos49473 ай бұрын

    MOJO DOJO LUNA MOON

  • @jakobiewallace3916
    @jakobiewallace39162 ай бұрын

    My 3yr old and I watched this video together and she says the red ones are Mars and the Pink one is a Mars Moon 😂 We love your videos and she has been requesting each night to "watch the puzzle doing princess" 🥰 she loves to fall asleep to watching your videos

  • @KarenPuzzles

    @KarenPuzzles

    2 ай бұрын

    That's so cute 😭

  • @shawnmariemann
    @shawnmariemann3 ай бұрын

    The snowflake puzzle graphic is amazing!

  • @Krlytz
    @Krlytz3 ай бұрын

    Imagine the following conversation at the factory: Employee 1: The cutter is ready, the image is loaded and we have begun printing the first layer. Employee 2: Sorry I'm late! Here's the new image for the Moon puzzle Employee 1: What do you mean, "new image"? Employee 2: Didn't you get the memo? The design department sent the dark side of the Moon by accident. This one is-.... Wait, why is the printer already working? Employee 1: [panic noises while trying to cancel the printing process] Printer: "I can smell your fear, puny human!! I shall deliver way too many copies before I adhere to your command!! Muahahaha" * A little time and many missprints later * Employee 1: ... I'm going to get fired. Employee 2: Hey, don't worry, it's not that bad! At least you only wasted 1 layer of ink. And you know how sometimes people love missprints because they are rare? I bet these will be very popular! Employee 1: It's almost half of the production. Will that still be considered "rare"?? Employee 2: Buddy, I'm just trying to save your job here. Come on, let's box them up before the boss sees them

  • @emiable
    @emiable3 ай бұрын

    I adore the pink version! It's adorable ❤

  • @davidandtom8238
    @davidandtom82383 ай бұрын

    We guess that someone had "pink eye". Love you're video's Karen and just subscribed. Keep posting!!!

  • @eliscore
    @eliscore3 ай бұрын

    Since the puzzle is okder, maybe the cilor composition of the dye changes over time?

  • @robintweety2618
    @robintweety26183 ай бұрын

    The puzzle images ARE different!! Take a look at 8:24 at the brown puzzle. It's moon surface is shaded in the exact same way as all of the box examples. Now compare it with the pink. It doesn't match! The texture, the lights and shadows, even the distinct 3 craters on the brown- none of it matches! It's not the same puzzle with different ink printing ... It's a different Moonshot puzzle all together!! The question is why did they package it in the wrong boxes with the wrong example image? And if this is true, is there a RARE version with the right package and image out there?!?

  • @houdin654jeff
    @houdin654jeff3 ай бұрын

    Because I’m a broken person, anytime I hear “moon shot,” the next few lyrics to Billy Joel’s “We Didn’t Start the Fire” play in my head… “Moonshot, Woodstock, Watergate, Punk Rock…”

  • @user-gz9zu2kw3p
    @user-gz9zu2kw3p3 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your content! My wife and I and 2 daughters did our first puzzle competition. Unfortunately, my grandson was invited to a birthday party so we were forced from family to adult class. This was the 2nd annual Roseville Raiders, MN puzzle competition. Great time.

  • @zoestephenson2048
    @zoestephenson20483 ай бұрын

    I have a set of CMYK playing cards and immediately recognized the colour of the M suit :) At least for those, they made a deliberate choice to use single colours.

  • @addie1080
    @addie10803 ай бұрын

    I love Pink Side of the Moon by Dark Floyd!

  • @MrFiddler1959
    @MrFiddler19593 ай бұрын

    In 1967 I was in second grade - Mouse Trap and Candy Land stand out in my memory as something we spent more time on than jigsaws!

  • @enoynaert
    @enoynaert3 ай бұрын

    I am an old fart. I remember film photography and printing methods. A lot of pigments faded with time. The pink and red (magenta colors) tended not to fade as much as the others. When I was in college, art classes used slides to show us works of art. The slides were all old. We used to joke about how renaissance artists really liked magenta because the slides were so faded.

  • @KarenPuzzles

    @KarenPuzzles

    3 ай бұрын

    But would the other colors have faded entirely off the pieces to leave only the Magenta dots perfectly preserved? And would it have happened perfectly across all four different examples I showed off of Worthpoint?

  • @stolenzephyr

    @stolenzephyr

    3 ай бұрын

    It seems possible that they changed inks during the printing process to a more durable one. I've had modern colored ball point pens fade and change in 8-10 years, so if something wasn't forimulated right, it seems possible.

  • @TheZotmeister

    @TheZotmeister

    3 ай бұрын

    Possibly related: I have several boardgames in my collection that spent extended periods of time in windows exposed to sunlight. The art fades over time like that; the front of those boxes compared to the back is striking. Typically, the color components don't fade at the same rate - in my experience, it's the blue color that tends to remain longest when the others have extensively paled - but I'm not sure if that has to do primarily with the chemistry of inks or the physics of sunlight. At any rate, it seems like the printing dots on the pink puzzle here were all pink to begin with; I suspect a printing error, but it's just a guess.

  • @toxicginger9936

    @toxicginger9936

    3 ай бұрын

    @@TheZotmeister Typically, on average, Yellow fades away first, followed by Cyan, and then Magenta.

  • @duotronicnone4572

    @duotronicnone4572

    3 ай бұрын

    I think that is just photographic filmstock, and not actual printed photos though.

  • @jenhenderson4136
    @jenhenderson41363 ай бұрын

    Moon ^.^ This was such a fun video, thank you Karen! :)

  • @louisejohnson6057
    @louisejohnson60573 ай бұрын

    In 1967 I think that many people would have thought that the pink moon was Far Out and Cool. I love it!

  • @lindasardonell2554
    @lindasardonell25543 ай бұрын

    my guess on the color difference is that the pink puzzle was stored in less than ideal conditions, which might account for the fading of the box as well as the discoloration of the puzzle pieces.

  • @lindasardonell2554

    @lindasardonell2554

    3 ай бұрын

    moon. yes i commented before watching the whole video. maybe the other colors faded but magenta didnt.

  • @lenab5266

    @lenab5266

    3 ай бұрын

    @@lindasardonell2554 this is my theory as well

  • @halmond8713

    @halmond8713

    3 ай бұрын

    Idk...I don't think that is the case because from the photos you can see the pink puzzle coming in the dark boxes too. To me it looks more like printing error. That they run out the other inks or forgot to run then through more than once, since back then you could not print more than one color at the time.

  • @kellieh4807
    @kellieh48073 ай бұрын

    Hey Karen! I’m loving the videos so far this year 😊 were you planning to do a recap video from puzzles from 2023?

  • @niteman555
    @niteman5553 ай бұрын

    The two puzzles are showing different regions of the moon entirely. The one with the big flat region represents maybe a 1/20th truncation of the full moon. Likely because the craters on the moon are quite small compared to its apparent diameter - showing only a small circular section of the moon would make those craters pop more.

  • @julielow6100
    @julielow61003 ай бұрын

    Omg! These puzzles are way older than you...I was around in 1967, remember seeing the moon landing...holy cow! Getting old!

  • @maryquartuccio5521
    @maryquartuccio55213 ай бұрын

    Very nice the moon puzzles are amzing

  • @MrTheta78
    @MrTheta783 ай бұрын

    The different designs between red and pink makes me think one might be the hidden side and one the visible one. Maybe both pictures were printed on different machines with a lack of ink or the same printer with bad encoding of the yellow layer.

  • @misha745
    @misha7453 ай бұрын

    At first I thought the big reveal would be that it was a counterfeit puzzle but more likely it's probably someone messed up along the way and instead of wasting the money they went ahead and sold the puzzles with the errors.

  • @morgandenoia3138
    @morgandenoia31383 ай бұрын

    It is a problem with the stock used in the photo printing process. Viewmaster reels used to be made with Kodachrome film, then they switched to Ectochrome film in the 1970s as a cost cutting measure. A lot of vintage viewmaster reels turn magenta over time if they were made with the inferior film stock. I’m guessing the problem is related to this.

  • @KarenPuzzles

    @KarenPuzzles

    3 ай бұрын

    That sounds promising. Can you expand about where all of that falls in the printing process of this puzzle?

  • @galaxia4709

    @galaxia4709

    3 ай бұрын

    @@KarenPuzzles That's funny, it says that Karen's response happened 17 min ago and earlier in time than the original post that she responded to, with 13 min ago. Speaking in space terms, Karen traveled to the future!

  • @morgandenoia3138

    @morgandenoia3138

    3 ай бұрын

    @@KarenPuzzles I think that the ink used in the three color printing process is unstable, and what has actually happened is that two of the three color dye layers (cyan and yellow) have faded, leaving magenta the prominent hue. The other puzzle will probably turn pink eventually, I believe the temperature it is stored at and whether it is in contact with oxygen are exacerbating factors.

  • @GirlOfTheTardis
    @GirlOfTheTardis3 ай бұрын

    In regards to the times on the tin / box you must remember how good you are at puzzles, those times are estimates for an average puzzler

  • @tanderson9115
    @tanderson91153 ай бұрын

    Fun video, learning and laughing always a fun combo-MOON.

  • @wiiza4ever
    @wiiza4ever3 ай бұрын

    Could the pieces not be interchangeable because the radial and concentric cuts were made by separate dies?

  • @KarenPuzzles

    @KarenPuzzles

    3 ай бұрын

    Oh that's a great thought! Some of them seemed to be off in just one direction so you may be on to something there.

  • @nickhaldenonyoutube
    @nickhaldenonyoutube3 ай бұрын

    Pink MOON 🌕💕

  • @ReeveProductions
    @ReeveProductions3 ай бұрын

    Best explanation for the pink moon puzzles, honestly some guy going “eh, it’s not going to my house.”

  • @RoseMaryBowen
    @RoseMaryBowen2 ай бұрын

    April's full moons are named "Pink Moon" in the Northern Hemisphere. Maybe that has something to do with this color difference. I spotted an American Publishing puzzle on Amazon priced at $6,389.75 with $41.98 shipping!!! It was the "Clown Blanc" 551 piece puzzle. (1984). Loving your videos. ❤ 😊 🧩

  • @TheGlaiveOfKrull
    @TheGlaiveOfKrull3 ай бұрын

    The color reminds me of the color of old Kodak color film when it gets vinegar syndrome, when most colors are washed out and only pink or reddish hues remain. But I've never heard of that happening with puzzle ink before.

  • @Lizzihades
    @Lizzihades3 ай бұрын

    I was definitely expecting the tin that said ‘pop art’ to be the pink one lmaoo

  • @melissawingfield8666
    @melissawingfield86663 ай бұрын

    Very interesting! Moon 😊

  • @pistelli57
    @pistelli573 ай бұрын

    At that time 4 colors offset printers were very rare. Most part of machines had to print one color at a time, then wash the machine and use another color, and so on. Usually the 1st color is magenta. Probably they found a forgotten batch of puzzles printed only in magenta after printing the other 3 colors (cyan, yellow and black) and wouldn't worth print it again and then decided to sell it as it was, in magenta only.

  • @krystalcotriss
    @krystalcotriss3 ай бұрын

    Expect the new purple passion to take a LONG time...there are tons of false fits. Took me like 24 hours 🫨 I want to try the older one though by Bits and Pieces and I've heard that's easier.

  • @peterholzer4481
    @peterholzer44813 ай бұрын

    17:19 They aren't the same image. The dark red image on the left shows part of Mare Imbrium in the northern hemisphere, the pink image on the right shows part of Mare Nubium and the cratered region south of it in the southern hemisphere. Totally different parts of the moon. (BTW how did you manage to align a circular image so close to the north/south direction? I totally expected to have to rotate them in my mind to find a fit on the map but nope - almost perfect) So not only did they run out of ink, they also lost the image. Mysteriouser and mysteriouser ...

  • @KarenPuzzles

    @KarenPuzzles

    3 ай бұрын

    Very strange!!

  • @amandar283

    @amandar283

    3 ай бұрын

    Isn't the pink one of the Tycho crater?

  • @peterholzer4481

    @peterholzer4481

    3 ай бұрын

    @@amandar283There are a lot of craters in that image, but yes, Tycho is one of them and almost in the center (the one with the prominent central peak).

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy.3 ай бұрын

    There’s a mystery around the Moon in an American setting? The Moon Truthers will love this.

  • @sybilwinfield538
    @sybilwinfield5383 ай бұрын

    Worker was so high that he thought he was just seeing brown when it was pink and packed it up

  • @KittyxKult
    @KittyxKult3 ай бұрын

    My first guess would have been that due to storage conditions the pink ones sun faded, but the lack of dots at all on the second one makes me think the mistake didn’t get caught fast enough that it would have been too much of a loss not to sell the pink printing ones. Honestly I like the pink one better 💅🏻

  • @dhpbear2
    @dhpbear23 ай бұрын

    17:51 - The pink puzzle's image appears to be *stretched* ! (note the *oval* crater just 'northeast' of the center !)

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