You look very weak talkimg about strenght 🙈🤷‍♂️

@EastsideArmWrestling

Ай бұрын

Thanks man, appreciate the compliment

@monkeypickle4539

Ай бұрын

I'd take advice from a small guy who is clearly very intelligent over a guy who mispells and jumps to prejudgements

@EastsideArmWrestling

Ай бұрын

@@monkeypickle4539 appreciate the support man 👊

@barrybadranath

3 күн бұрын

Im sure youre super strong. Also, this guy has videos of his max lifts and they are definitely impressive for his size.

The way you reached the conclusion that wrist extension hypertrophy is the key for riser training is actually pretty genius. Nice video

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Thanks man! To be honest, the only thing I’m 100% certain of is that flexion is definitely not the limiting factor of one’s riser - so all that’s left is to strengthen the other missing piece, and of course to train the actual radial deviation itself directly to increase its strength.

@couldntbemorerandom

2 ай бұрын

If you know about anatomy and biomechanics, it's pretty basic tbh. More science-oriented than most armwrestlers though, which I respect a lot. But it still might be wrong. Definitely not wrong for isolated radial abduction, but at the table, rising is mostly used in combination with a lot of tension on the wrist flexors, either statically, or dynamically (to a certain degree; with a fully flexed wrist, radial abduction isn't possible anymore of course). Because if you wouldn't contract your wrist flexors, toprollers would go right through your wrist. But activating wrist extensors while rising would result in weakening wrist flexors. This is something the body usually doesn't do because it is inefficient, which is shown in some studies regarding other exercises and muscles, like the hamstrings while training squats. EMG data suggests that the hamstrings aren't involved in squats very much, despite being hip extensors and therefore synergists to the glutes. They are knee flexors as well though, which means they are antagonists to the quadriceps, which does the knee extension part of the movement. That's probably why they aren't activated, because they would do the exact opposite of what the quadriceps does and therefore reduce efficiency of the movement. This might also be the reason why pronation is noticeably weaker when your elbow flexors are involved. If you do isolated pronation, lay down your forearm and thus don't rely on your elbow flexors to hold your arm, you can do more weight, especially close to your max, than you could do without any support. The reason for that could be that the biceps is a supinator, working against pronation. If the weight is high enough that brachialis and brachioradialis can't hold it without the biceps, pronation is gonna be weaker. If your body prioritizes pronation though, your elbow flexion is gonna be weaker because it can't use the biceps. Same with rising: if you use rising paired with cupping/wrist flexion, your body might not recruite wrist extension muscle fibers at the same time, which means stronger wrist extension might not be relevant for your rising at the table. "Your wrist flexion is unlikely to be the limiting factor" is a bad argument anyway, since it doesn't matter which synergistic muscle is stronger in a certain movement. It only matters if the movement itself is stronger than your opponent. Even if wrist extension would be relevant for rising: if your opponent's wrist flexion is 20 % stronger than yours, but your wrist extension is 10 % stronger than his, it doesn't matter if you train your extension a lot and he doesn't train it at all, and whatever are your weaker and stronger synergistic muscles, as long as his overall strength is higher. You can't just say "well, I focus on it a lot, I train it the whole time, it can't be a problem". Try telling Devon Larratt that your wrist flexion is so strong that it won't be a limiting factor, when he toprolls the shit out of you. Also, the whole talk about the effect of muscle imbalances on health and injuries isn't backed by a lot of scientific evidence, although people always think imbalances are really bad and cause injuries. Weak muscles often cause joint problems and injuries, so it's always good to train everything. But that's just the isolated fact that the muscles are weak, there's no evidence I'm aware of that the ratio of one muscle's strength to an antagonistic muscle is relevant . So if your wrist extension is quite strong already but your wrist flexion is much much stronger because you train it three times as much, you don't have to fear imbalances. But if your extension is weak af, you definitely should train it, just like you should train EVERY weak muscle for injury prevention.

@EastsideArmWrestling

2 ай бұрын

@@couldntbemorerandom Thanks for sharing your detailed opinions and points on this topic. You are obviously much more well-read than most about biomechanics, so you probably aren’t the target demographic for these videos, which are aimed at an introductory-level audience. While I do agree with your general statements, there are some points of contention I’d like to bring up, however: 1. Activating the wrist extensors while rising is a perfectly viable strategy in certain situations (see: wrist kickback). 2. Even if one were to fully focus on flexion, the extensors still play a stabilizing role (like how the biceps are also activated during a bench press for example). 3. There’s also a fallacy on your point about “even if wrist flexion would be relevant for rising.” If it were relevant, then it would matter all the more to get it stronger since the force of radial deviation would be limited by extension as it’s the weaker of the pair. 4. As for muscle imbalances, using the example of Hamstring-to-Quadriceps strength ratio (since it’s one of the most commonly used metrics for muscle imbalance studies), there has been evidence shown that a greater imbalance ratio does lead to higher injury incidences (e.g. because the hamstrings do not generate equivalent counter torque).

@couldntbemorerandom

2 ай бұрын

@@EastsideArmWrestling Thank you for your detailed reply! Valid points. Could you provide me with the PMID of some Hamstring-to-Quadriceps strength ratio studies or systematic reviews that you are aware of that are high quality and convincing to you? Maybe I miss something. Thank you!

@EastsideArmWrestling

2 ай бұрын

@@couldntbemorerandom here’s a meta analysis study on the hams/quads ratio: sportsmedicine-open.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s40798-019-0185-0 I think it’s a good piece to start looking into the topic since it introduces evidence that both supports and doesn’t support my assertion. As it stands, the jury is still out there. My personal stand is based on personal anecdotal experience dealing with previous muscle imbalance issues. Thanks for adding great value to the discussion man 🤙

I've been hitting wrist extensions twice a week for a while now.Not so much for strength but just to keep my arms healthy since we all hit flexion a lot. Like a lot.😆. Got this advice from Janis in one of their vids. But now I'll be sure to train them for strength as well.💪

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Yes! It was great advice from The Voice of Armwrestling to train these for health 💯 Though I’ve found that as someone who naturally has a pretty weak riser, training extension more has helped me break some plateaus!

@ashwina.v.l8072

3 ай бұрын

@@EastsideArmWrestling Absolutely! Now my riser strength is at 25kgs with a bodyweight of 57kgs.😆

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

@@ashwina.v.l8072 wow that’s extremely solid for your weight man!

@ashwina.v.l8072

3 ай бұрын

@@EastsideArmWrestling Thank you! 🤝💪

@i_mch

3 ай бұрын

The man,the myth , the legend, ashwin himself 🥶🥶

I remember in some old video about rising on "the voice of arm wrestling" Janis talked about extension being important for rising strength. I used to train wrist extension to maintain my wrist health and it inevitably improved my riser strength. I just lack elbow flexion now 😂

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Haha that’s awesome! Not many people have the issue where their arm becomes the limiting factor.

Keep it up with your videos! They're really good quality and very informative. I find it very useful to know these tiny details to up your game especially if you're plataeuing. And especially since not many people will be talking much about these topics.

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

🙏Thanks so much Josh! I’m glad that my videos have been able to help you and the other viewers in some way. It really makes all the effort worth it. Take care and continue getting stronger man! 👊

Cool video bud . You really go in depth and i love the suspense / mystery feel to the music and introduction throughout.

@EastsideArmWrestling

2 ай бұрын

Hey brother, thanks so much for appreciating all of those details! I’m so glad to hear that you enjoyed the video. Really means a lot to me 😊

I’ve avoided wrist extension for a year, but 6 months ago i started training it Because i understood that the radial extensor works to do the rise movement (and also for balancing the wrist flexors)

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

That's awesome that you managed to keep increasing your knowledge to improve your training brother. Keep at it!

@oldwolfp

Ай бұрын

@@EastsideArmWrestling sorry sir my english is really bad, is rising a physical part of body or name of a move briefly?

@EastsideArmWrestling

Ай бұрын

@@oldwolfp rising in armwrestling refers to the wrist rise or “radial deviation”

I've always wondered why my left riser was so much stronger than my right despite being a righty. And I really think it's because typing on the keyboard uses so much more of the left hand (resulting in more wrist extension) than my right hand. And having a desk job, this difference adds up over time. Very good video in explaining why it's so important, I'm gonna add it to my workouts and see what happens.

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Haha, that's a really interesting and cool anecdote man. Thanks for sharing it! Hope adding extension to your routine helps in a significant manner! Stay strong, beast :)

Wrist extension with a dumbbell or a barbell is a pretty awesome exercise for health, stability and they give you an insane pump. For, example I do them as the last exercise once or twice a week to do something fun that makes you feel good and thick when you leave the gym. It was an interesting watch as always Greg, keep it up! :)

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Thanks man! Haha, you're exactly right about the insane pumps! Those wrist extension pumps are truly one of the craziest I have found for armwrestling exercises. And as always, thank you so much for supporting

Very good video, well edited and good info

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for your supportive comment, Josh! I appreciate you taking the time to say that. Glad you found the video helpful! Oftentimes, I feel like my videos are very simple and target simple topics, so I often doubt whether anyone would find them interesting at all. But I'm happy to know that they do have a positive impact on others. -- Greg

This is top quality content here... Well researched, well edited, well presented!

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

I’m so glad to hear that from you Troy. It truly means so much to me to see you, as a viewer, appreciate the effort I’ve put into the research and editing. Although the topic is somewhat simple and probably a no-brained for most experienced guys, I would hope that it still adds value to in some way to the community. Thanks for watching and support man 👊

I pull the resistance band rolling D handle in opposite direction like uncurl for wrist extension exercise but I think by default people do wrist extension when applying power because it's more comfortable that's why many amateur arm wrestlers loose their wrists during matches.

@EastsideArmWrestling

2 ай бұрын

Do you mean you do it eccentrically?

Love these informative videos

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Haha, wow super fast comment! Thanks for the encouraging words brother! I love making these videos that explore these common topics in arm wrestling, and hope that they are helpful especially for the newer guys out there!

Nice video as always Greg. I usually didn’t train my cup that much, but after starting some cupping I did feel like my wrist was much more stable while doing the riser lift. Now I know why. I do some ulnar deviation and wrist extension exercises from time to time just to balance the muscles, because I get micro injuries or carpal tunnel kind of symptoms if I stop doing them completely.

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

That's awesome man, I'm glad you managed to find a way to improve your wrist health. Appreciate your kind comment, stay healthy and stay strong brother!

My favorite dynamic wrist extension exercise has become dumbbell wrist extension while sitting or squatting, with forearms resting on the legs(they can be slightly declined) and the dumbbells hanging over the front of the knees, hold the dumbbells closer to the outside so there is more dumbbell on the thumbs sides of the hand. Angle the palms slightly where the ulnar side is tilted down a bit and the thumb side is tilted up a bit. This helps prevent the thumbs from limiting the weight you can do. Then do 10-40 reps of wrist extension. My strength has improved from 15-17.5lbs to 35lbs for decent reps and the movement feels great and gives a great pump. It feels better than using a pulley.

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Wow, that’s a good 100% increase for you, sounds amazing. I’ve incorporated the reverse curls on the knees on and off throughout the years and have always found them to make insane pumps as you mentioned!

I hit dumbell wrist extensions as an accessory every other day. I find that its helped tremendously with elbow stability and pain. My go to is doing it on a bench with the forearm stablized, ive been trying to progress the weight and im up to 35 lbs for wrist extension from a flexed position. Also those rubber bands with loops for the fingers help as well for extension of the fingers which hits the extensors as well

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your experience with this helping your elbow pain man! That's a really good point you brought up -- since the wrist flexors originate at the elbow (on the humerus side), having overly strong flexors can indeed cause imbalance and pain at the elbow. Happy to learn that you have first-hand experience on gaining health benefits from training extension!

Ive recently had a ton of ulnar wrist pain and found that wrist extension has helped fix it significantly.

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Wow I’m so happy to hear that man. Wish you a smooth recovery and a pain-free arm wrestling journey ahead!

Ermes lifts like a bodybuilder,with perfect form and even uses the static hold. Ermes is amazing.

@EastsideArmWrestling

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, in his videos, most of his lifts are using slow, controlled form. Quite respectable.

I’ve always trained a lot like a bodybuilder even to this day in arm wrestling and I’ve found it’s helped me transition very well. I’ve got a few wrist extension exercises up my sleeve. I’ve always wanted Gabe Kapler “he’s an old baseball player” like forearms. So with that said I’ve always trained it very hard.

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your experience and that just goes to show that this isn't all just bullcrap I'm spewing haha. Stay healthy, stay strong, Kevin.

Great video! U always advocate for training wirst extension for health reasons

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Thanks martino! You'll make a great orthopedic doctor XD

I train all other opposite specific armwrestling fundamental with just light bands with heavy volume for health. This includes finger extensors, wrist extensors and shoulder external rotation, rear delts. Something I just add to quick recovery light works. I love band face pulls and JM presses also specially when you have plenty of time to train/recover.

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Amen to that man, time is really a factor for me personally too. Wish I had more time to incorporate more of these opposite movements to my training.

Great video, thank you!!

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the positive feedback man! Stay Beastly :)

I like training my dynamic wrist extension with a strap across the back of my hand (across top knuckles) and synchronize the movement with external shoulder rotation. It’s an efficient 2 for 1 exercise imo

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

WOW, that's a very cool share man, thanks! Never thought someone would turn wrist extension into a compound exercise. I'll have to try it sometime!

Started doing specific arm wrestling workouts may last year and from the beginning on muscle imbalance was on my mind. So generally always work both extension and flexion. Saw an increase in extension power of ~100%. From only being able to lift 12kg for 6 reps with both wrists combined to 24kg for 6 reps. Also nice side effect was increased wrist stability in general :)

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

That's so reassuring to hear from your man. Thanks for sharing your first-hand experience with improved wrist strength and stability with your balanced training! All too often, arm wrestlers are very imbalanced, but hopefully that's a trend that will change.

I've just started including wrist extensions at the end of my chest and tris sessions, feels good, I just use a D handle on cable machine, standing at 90° to the cable, and support my working arm with the other arm. Even targets the thumb of the working hand, for extra thickness gains.

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Simple, yet effective! Great addition to your workout, man.

Nice vid, and now I will start training wrist extention more lol

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Hey, thanks, pippy! Appreciate your positive comment man. Hope the training helps you!

Upside down kettle bell press. It’s recommend for climbers who get wrist pain due to the same imbalance

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

That's great to hear that this is a proven thing in other sports as well. Thanks for sharing man!

i always train wrist extension with a dumbbell also nice video

Ive been training extensors with ricebucket for the past 8mths💪

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Self crack to become uncrackable!

@zhiyuzhu5124

3 ай бұрын

@@EastsideArmWrestlingOne of the reasons i do rice bucket training is because it distributes the resistance more equally between the extensor carpi muscle group, for the wrist specifically, and the extensor digitorum which also assists with extension of the wrist. In my opinion most other methods of extensor training neglect this aspect. This is even more interesting on the flexor side with the flexor digitorum profundus and flexor digitorum superficialis, both of which are responsible for finger flexion but also assist in wrist flexion. From my observation, some armwrestlers including myself suffer from some kind of imbalance, whereby the superficialis muscle is much stronger than the profundus muscle, causing sort of a scrunching of the fingertips when doing containment exercises on the eccentric handle, as well as on the table. I think this would be a pretty cool topic to look into and maybe make a video about!

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

@@zhiyuzhu5124 that is indeed a keen observation! I’ve seen the scrunching happen too to many armwrestlers! Thanks for the explanation and interesting topic for a possible future video!

@mence5992

3 ай бұрын

With the Ricebucket you are primarely training fingers extensor

@zhiyuzhu5124

3 ай бұрын

@@EastsideArmWrestlingawesome💪 I also suspect this might be caused by my gripper training in the past as the handles usually rest on the first joint of the fingers rather than the fingertips. But this might not be a problem for people whose fingers are so long that the 1st joint of the fingers basically act as the fingertips. Like a certain russian trucker…😂

My riser pr is around 80lbs and I credit that to my god given genetics. The first time I tried it I got 65lbs. I happen to be natural as well.

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Monstrous! I'm jealous of your gift man. Good job on staying natty, keep it up!

@bluemonstrosity259

3 ай бұрын

@@EastsideArmWrestling Thank you, I do appreciate that.

When I first started band workouts last summer, I would always incorporate the fair share of wrist extension. Since then, I’ve fallen off doing them because I want to focus on bicep and wrist abduction and adduction strength.

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Completely fine to focus on different aspects of your game during different phases of your training. All the best man!

i train reverse wrist flexion to balance out my flexion work. Greg u might be onto something here regarding prehab from flexion related strains or injuries

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Awesome that you train it man. I hope it’s been doing well for you. And yeah, I think ever since training it, I haven’t suffered any wrist injuries at all!

Gr8 video!! Subbed Bro!!

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Hey man, thanks so much for the encouraging comment! Truly appreciate the sub 👊

My favorites is a wrist roller, but I use it in a specific way. I do them one hand at a time, so I have to stabilize deviation while also moving from flexed to extended. To be clear, I'm talking a weight on a rope that I wind around a stick that I hold around waist level. I switch hands with each rep. I also like rice bucket for training extensors through the fullest range of motion. I push my hand into the bucked fully flexed, so my palm is up and the pressure is on the back of my hand, then I extend the wrist and fingers so the movement ends with my palm facing down. I do this in supinated, pronated and neutral positions. Hopefully that was clear.

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the clear and detailed explanation of your exercises man. You made good points, and I will be sure to try at least one of your tips to see if works for me. Appreciate you taking the time to share your experience on this topic. Stay strong! Greg

Tus comentarios sobre los beneficios de la extensión de muñeca son muy útiles, la biomecánica del movimiento y sus beneficios.. exelente video, felicitaciones, tienes un suscriptor más. Saludos desde Ecuador 🇪🇨.

@EastsideArmWrestling

2 ай бұрын

Gracias, amigo mío. Me alegra mucho saber que este video te fue útil. Me sorprende tener espectadores en Ecuador. Mantente saludable, mantente fuerte.

@user-bz5ys5bl6y

2 ай бұрын

@@EastsideArmWrestling acá seguimos muy de cerca el mundo del armwrestling,y también a personas que suman al deporte como es tu caso,, tus videos nos causó una muy grata impresión. Sigue adelante. Fuerza, técnica, inteligencia y resistencia. 🦾🇪🇨

Honestly, the only reason I even integrated wrist extensions into my workouts because Uncle Todd Hutchings had such a great explanation for it.

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

He does give a lot of great tips! I don’t exactly agree with all of his training methodologies, but *this* I can get behind.

Great , great video

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot tricia! I appreciate your kind comment :)

I’m a massage therapist who mostly pushes down with my thumb. Kings move is natural for me, wrist extension and pronation are automatically trained and overtrained. Strengthening my elbow, wrist and finger flexors isometrically and dynamically is the hard part for me, since I spend so much time with extended wrist/elbow/fingers. My question to you is - why do we not want to train the wrist rise (aka radial deviation) dynamically as well as statically? I have heard zero good arguments for it, and didn’t hear it really addressed in this video (not a knock on your video, it had a slightly different and valuable purpose I agree with)

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Hey ian! Haha, that's cool to learn that your wrist is already so trained from your job. To address your question, the biggest argument I've heard against training it dynamically as mentioned in the video is the higher risk of injury when going heavy. Due to the weak nature of the movement and the nature of the condyloid joint, I do feel like a lot of (ego) lifters can more easily get hurt with this, compared to other lifts. Also, on a practical level, it's difficult for people sometimes to find the 0.5lbs or 0.5kg plates that are needed to progressively overload this lift in a safe and steady manner. That being said, I personally DO train radial deviation both statically and dynamically for strength, but I am very careful with the weights I use. However, for hypertrophy reasons, I find radial deviation lackluster as due to the limited range of motion for adduction and abduction, there isn't really a meaningful stretch that I can get. And no worries man! I don't see your comment as knocking on the video at all! In fact, it's comments like yours that I welcome as it helps to add to the conversation and shine a different perspective on things. Stay strong brother.

good video man just subbed keep it up

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Hey Ben, I truly appreciate you taking the time to leave your positive comment and subbing. Stay strong, beast!

Im gonna be honest, this is a weird approach, but im gonna climb trees the train my rising. Sometimes weird angles and oddly sized branches are exactly what I need to compare to men like Devon

@EastsideArmWrestling

2 ай бұрын

Hahaha, unorthodox, but I hope it goes well for you man!

Before I discovered AW, I used to train reverse grip EZ bar curls which hammered my wrist extension like nothing else I loved the exercise and it even got to a point where I curled substantially more weight with a reverse grip, than a normal supinated grip on the EZ bar lol Got the exercise idea from good old Jeff Cavalier, as he said that reverse grip EZ curls are better than reverse grip normal bar curls because your grip is still reversed but slightly more neutral rather than heavily pronated, which in turn activates more of the wrist extension muscles idk how good it was but it felt great for wrist extension purposes

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Absolutely LOVE reverse grip EZ bar curls too. I treat them as sort of a compound exercise for the wrist extensors, since most of the work is elbow flexion in a pronated position, but I do consciously curl my wrist back while doing the lift too.

Some years ago when i soing some manuals work i realized i have weak rise, for example when I used hammer, even if i had good wrist flexion and extension, so I did some rising exercises, today it s much better, my point is even if you're right, you have to do also some specific rising exercises if you want good rise

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Of course, please don't misunderstand me -- direct training of an exercise is still one of the best ways to get stronger at it. Every top bench presser trains the bench press itself, there's no way around it. BUT they still train other variations and accessories to target limiting muscle groups that are not as well-targeted through the main lift itself.

Actually Devon recently has said the riser lift goes over the back of the 1st knuckle, not over the middlw

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Hey, John, thanks for bringing that one up! Indeed. However, I do disagree with him on that point. Once it's over the back of the 1st knuckle, it starts to involve too much pronation at that point as less of the pressure is targeting the riser.

I was doing them, just for sake of it. Now I know why, thanks 😅

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

🤣🤣 now you're going to become even more monstrous!

I hit all movement on wrist rehab day. once a week.

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

That's wonderful markus! Thanks for teaching your students the smart things to do!

Appreciate the vid. What are your thoughts on the safety of rise training dynamically, using greater rom but with a rep range of say 10-20, to build a good base rising strength? Worth doing?

@EastsideArmWrestling

2 ай бұрын

It’s fine, just practically a little challenging for some people who don’t have access to smaller plates for small weight jumps

@bogroll_

2 ай бұрын

@@EastsideArmWrestling Nice, thanks for the reply. I've found rising with that kind of rep range is great for hypertrophy of the thumb pad on the top side of the hand. Makes the opponents grip more awkward when that becomes thicker.

My left riser is weirdly strong. Max is 40kg. Right is down at 35. But I do notice a big differencw in what i can lift in comparison to other lifts that stay consistent. Some days I can barely budge 35 on left let alone 40. When I started training it the numbers shot up pretty quickly from around 20-25 to 40 in quick time and I noticed a massive difference on the table. I do occasionally train my wrist extensions, usually dumbells on knee or wrist roller type thing.

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Whoa, that’s à really big improvement in a short time! Would you say u just mostly focused on the static lift?

@Lazyazhook

3 ай бұрын

@@EastsideArmWrestling thanks bro! Still took over a year to make those gains but being natty I consider that fast lol Noob gains always quicker, had never trained riser prior even tho I was 3 years into arm wrestling. At the start I was doing all small movements on cable machine then I moved to statics only. The biggest difference ive felt on the table were the gains I made from riser

Although my right hand is my main hand, when I started armwrestling my left riser was so much stronger, but I also use that hand for, you know 😅

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

😳😳

Well, I spent a decent amount of time training my extension with my wrist even before watching this video

@EastsideArmWrestling

2 ай бұрын

😉 keep it up champ! Gotta pump those numbers way up!

Would it be ok to train rising just holding the Caribbeaner in your hand on a cable machine at lower weights when starting out before you get the belt?

@EastsideArmWrestling

2 ай бұрын

Sure, it would get pretty painful though. If you don’t have a belt, you can loop a small towel through the carabiner instead!

Thanks for all these informations! Do you think I should put wrist extension the same day as rising? I currently train extension monday and rising tuesday so I don't know if it has an impact on my performance. Also, I train extension only with bands for 25 reps. Do you think I should try to lower the repa to train more the strength rather than hypertrophy? I have a plateau on my rising since some months now at 30kg

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

You can totally have them on different days for variation. 25 reps does sound high for me, I’d try to shoot for 10-15 reps

@boon3913

3 ай бұрын

@@EastsideArmWrestling Ok thanks!

Hi, I'm new to arm wrestling. At practice when attempting my riser, the other guys say it feels like I'm pulling more straight back (back pressure) and not actually rising upwards. But when I try to vector upwards towards my face, my elbow comes off the pad. However, when the pro I'm practicing with rises, it does not. I dont get it. FYI I have a shorter forearm than everyone at practice. Is that why? I'll also dip down a bit and do more of a hammer curl but the guys say once again that I'm not getting any height. So confused. Thanks for any tips

@EastsideArmWrestling

12 күн бұрын

In your case, it might be useful to try practicing rising with a slight kickback too. If your practice partners are too strong, get them to let up a little and let you try and engage. A successful rise should cause your opponent’s wrist to dump down and also attack their cupping through their top 2 fingers.

We should be training with hydraulics, rather than gravity or reactive storage like elastics or springs. With hydraulics, the resistance is created by effort and stops the moment effort stops. It's the safest way to execute maximum effort because there is virtually zero chance of injury.

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Isn't that isometrics too?

Dynamic wrist riser movement. @2:56. Be careful. Use lighter weight. High rep range.....30 or 40. Focus on the contraction and control the negative portion. It's about endurance and maintaining smoothness. Feel the burn....you don't need to go to failure. (I've had great results.....stay static for the heavier "rising" lifts. Just my 2 cents.)

@EastsideArmWrestling

Ай бұрын

Yes higher rip range is suitable for it, but for me, I usually don’t advise 30-40, maybe 15-20

@commonmancrypto1648

Ай бұрын

@@EastsideArmWrestling given the risk of injury, you've got to take your ego completely out of it. I perform the Reps pretty slowly, focusing on dexterity and eliminating any momentum. Certain lifts train your ability to move the way. Others train your ability to control the weight while you move it. Obviously there is some overlap...... I guess it's comparable to doing a heavy sets of bench press on a Smith machine 4/5 reps....... and then doing dumbbell bench press with half the weight for sets of 20. At the end of the day, everyone's body and physique is a little different. Chart your progress and listen to your body. Best of luck..... I will be subscribing

@EastsideArmWrestling

Ай бұрын

@@commonmancrypto1648 cheers mate, appreciate the support

I’m a king’s hook user and I never train these yet I’m one of the regional champions

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

That’s awesome for you Carmilla! You must be pretty naturally talented 💯 Whatever you’re doing to succeed, keep doing it 👊

Vitaly's version of the riser lift is stupidly more difficult

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Yeap, between the knuckles is significantly harder.

i never did extension once, thanks

@EastsideArmWrestling

2 ай бұрын

Great to be able to introduce the idea to you! 🙌

Nice bro I like rising

@EastsideArmWrestling

2 ай бұрын

The fire rises 🔥 ⬆️

Wrist roller, flexion and extension.

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Great stuff 👍

That rising anatomy for sure was interesting. Didn't know there wasn't a muscle for radial deviation. Seems like I need to take my wrist extension more seriously. This is my faforite wrist extension movement: www. youtube. com/watch?v=1GRrUMeUpjs

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

I'm happy to know this video helped to give you some information you didn't have before! Thanks for sharing your favorite exercise for extension man, that's definitely a solid one that I also do with my barbell!

I only thought wrist extensions are for increasing girth of forearm 😮

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

You're not entirely wrong on that ;)

Wrist extension full rom or neutral to full extend?

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

I'd advise full rom

i dont know how to use the riser . I dont really have good numbers on riser as i neglected it for a long time (i regret that). but yeah i dont know how to use my riser

@ashwina.v.l8072

3 ай бұрын

May I suggest Chris Drummond's Channel then? He has a few videos on the riser and how to use it specifically.

@i_mch

3 ай бұрын

@@ashwina.v.l8072 sheesh the legend imparting his Knowledge

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Keep training your wrist and yeah, there are videos that Chris and Tom Stubblebine made that explain that topic a little more in-depth!

@uchihaobito5071

3 ай бұрын

@@EastsideArmWrestling thanks

👍

@EastsideArmWrestling

2 ай бұрын

🙌🙌

leaning back on the lift, loooool

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

LOL

❤

@EastsideArmWrestling

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the support bhai

Definitely a lot of people are lacking rise strength because their wrists don’t have the stability because the extensors are comparatively weak

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

As someone with a pretty good riser, do you train your extensors at all?

@Golabekrafts

3 ай бұрын

@@EastsideArmWrestling I used to quite a bit (for example standing wrist rolls (from cup to full extension with dumbbell) but lately I’ve been lacking on it, and coincidentally my rise hasn’t really improved in a while now

As an auto mechanic I train my wrists all day long.

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

That's great that your vocation allows you to work these essential strengths

@tomsouther7292

2 ай бұрын

Bro! My brother in law is a mechanic. I train for arm wrestling and he doesn't. He has the most insane wrist and forearm strength. He wins half the time or even more. Makes me sick! 💪🇺🇸

I training like 6month in my home i only have 10kg .I did high reps.10kg is not enough so i start to doing this in gym

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

For sure! The goal, no matter what, is to get stronger and stronger over time! Keep it up man.

It's the lateral raise of armwrestling

@EastsideArmWrestling

2 ай бұрын

Haha, that’s a great analogy man!

5:59 look at the girl's hands, right hand seems way bigger lol

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Huge!

foe toproller, i think pronation is more important than rising

@EastsideArmWrestling

2 ай бұрын

💪 fair opinion

People struggle doing 60 lbs on this lift? I've never tried it before, never arm wrestled...but 60 lbs still sounds like baby weight.

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

It does indeed sound low! But that’s the thing about the riser lift, very deceptive

@SuperMontsta

3 ай бұрын

@@EastsideArmWrestling I'm going to try it, just to see lol.

Wrong 😔 cupping is the key

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

No wonder my cupping video was more popular 😂

😴😴😴

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment man!

Levan barely has any weaknesses

@EastsideArmWrestling

2 ай бұрын

Almost perfect armwrestler

a lot of talk without saying much

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

I'm sorry you didn't find this video useful, but thank you for taking your time to leave your feedback.

look man, back off a little from the camera, fix the framerate of the camera, get some good lighting and you'll easily be the best channel on armwrestling. content is top tier

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Once I actually start making decent money from this, I’ll be following exactly what you said for sure. Currently working on a tight budget so I haven’t been able to upgrade my equipment yet.

Wrist extensions off the knee. Don't need to go heavy. 2 to 8 pounds. Full range. A weight where you can get at least 15-30 reps. If you go too heavy on this lift, you can give yourself tennis elbow, and that takes a very long time to go away. Maybe a year or more.

@EastsideArmWrestling

3 ай бұрын

Tennis elbow really is a killer for most guys in this sport, glad I never had it (though I did have golfer’s elbow a couple times before). Thanks for sharing your experience and tips Matt!