I have to say winspace manufacturing quality is excellent. My review is coming soon!

@matt.rraw.

2 жыл бұрын

how much money did u receive yo

@Hambini

2 жыл бұрын

@@matt.rraw. I paid for it.

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

A bazillion dollars. (Monopoly money.)

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

Despite the confidence in our products, our butt-holes do always pucker-up a bit when Hambini makes a video...

@user-vw7fz3eq1b

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChinaCycling haha

That bike is mental, REALLY cool. Also loving the SROAD cassette!

@pierrec8563

2 жыл бұрын

So, maybe for your next video? 🤪

@meegel3689

2 жыл бұрын

nice we got an early access what your next video will be

@hockysa

2 жыл бұрын

doit Luke! treat yourself (and us) you deserve it

I love the clear coat and decals on this build. The cranks look great, looking forward to a detailed review on those.

Truth bro!! Loving my SLC rim brake!

@pierrec8563

2 жыл бұрын

Testosterone 💊🥴

@durianriders

11 ай бұрын

Injection not pills lol. @@pierrec8563

The KING IS BACK!!!

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

🙌🙌🙌 The king is getting old and waiting for the young prince to rise up and take the throne.

This looks amazing! As someone that struggles climbing I’m definitely leaning towards this as my next bike. great review!

Wow love that frame paint job! I am hoping it will be back in stock soon!

A great video with excellent content Joe. Many thanks for producing and kindly sharing the wisdom. Happy new year and happy pedalling 🙏

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

Happy new year! Glad you enjoyed the content.

Just subscribed + Pretty hyped for this light weight build you've got planned. thanks for the brands listed as well! Im gonna sus the stem, seat and cranks for my own light weight build cheers

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the sub!

Great video. I'm in Shanghai and have had so much trouble finding larger frame sizes so I've just ordered their T1300 endurance model in XL. Wish me luck.

Nice storyboard format Joe with a good balance between the bike, the parts (we need Taobao just like we have Ali) and your personal journey so far with various SLCs you've had. Nice to see you back posting!

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks John! Always hard to find the balance between the video i want to make and the video people want to watch.

Amazing! I'm getting on board with this frame 😍

Should've post videos more often! Eager to know the latest news and tech from China 🙌

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I do love this channel, and especially this community! Will try to find more time for you guys in 2022.

@pierrec8563

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChinaCycling Hello from France. Can you send the SLC to my country? You confirm? Thanks.

At least this frame is still available in a rim brake version, and in the preferable direct mount style. Disc brakes are complete overkill for a lightweight road bike. Btw, I've been using YBN chains with my Campagnolo equipped bike for a year now. They work great, and are a better value than the KMC chain that I was previously using. Great to see you back making videos, Joe. Hope you're well.

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

Good to hear other people having good experiences with YBN.

@TheRealKaner

2 жыл бұрын

I've used a few YBN chains (Gold Ti) with no wear issues in comparison to the more expensive KMC.

I also fell in loved with my winspace... hope winspace come out with a TT bike down the road :P

Great vid, great channel. Im just about to build up a frame otherwise be I'd get one of these.

Good to see you back. I really want to order this frame. But I just can't get a groupset in the UK. Wish they would lose the press fit BB too. Looks fantastic . 😀

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

Groupset availability is crazy. I can't believe they're still not on top of it.

Very cool bike! Love the paint job!

Love the 'story type' video. Funny with the paint, in the past I've taken to a frame with a spray can to be different and brighter. Getting a job with the company is another way to do it I suppose 😎.

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

Was a very complicated way of getting a custom paint job, eh?

Completely agree with you on the direct mount brakes. I used direct mount 105 on my unbranded road bike build. I honestly think that they feel better than the Dura Ace 9100 rim brakes on my other bike. That are the normal single mount. Thanks for the video. I've actually been looking at the Winspace frames for my next build.

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

Right on. Direct mount brakes I don't think got the love they deserved before the world 'moved on' to disc brakes.

@SinCityCycling702

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChinaCycling most people I've talked to about them have never heard of them. But the common misconception is that rim brakes just aren't good compared to disk.

Good luck always for winspace 🤙❤️

I liked the blue color most, followed by the red gradient one. 😃👍 But the black one has the coolest wheels. 😉

More content Joe! Defo interested in the crank but reading up on weight weenies the gent who is developing it is saying still under development however I maybe wrong. Anyway keep up the good work Joe!

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the last I checked this is technically the 3rd generation I think, and they're still working out some bugs with production? My axle for example was a prototype that they said may develop a sound/creak, but mine has been good so far! Will go more in detail during the dedicated video.

@SAnderson77

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChinaCycling Well it was released for sale for a short period in China only then stopped due to issues with the pedal thread fixing in the arms. Production I believe is due to the low number that are produced as the factory he is partnered with is concentrating on work for other customers that obviously make them more money. Well lots of us westerners waiting to spend some 💰 on this when it is released but sometimes these thing take time to get right especially since it is competing with THM and is well looking to be 50% cheaper! Love the 90’s paint on the SLC

Great video Joe & China Cycling. Inspiring. You look so comfortable on those bikes! Just flowing up the hills and along the roads in China. And great history you share with this one. Love all the weight-components break-downs and tech information.

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

Keith the MVP in the comments as always

@TheCyclesport

2 жыл бұрын

If it's trash 🗑 I would let you know 😏. I like the history and the tech talk and you know I am a weight weenie so all the ⚖ scale action 🎬 gets me quite excited!

I love my G2 Winspace. It was exactly what I wanted in a gravel bike.

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear! Always happy to get positive feedback.

I have an older Winspace T1000 that I think is more or less the same frameset. I love it! The supersix is the bike I compare it to also!

@ChinaCycling

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree!

Oh my god you posted so late. and what a bike!!!

Nice to see you back reviewing bike gear. Winspace's gain has been our loss. And a very nice bike too.

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Marc! I do love making these videos. I also love Winspace, haha. Winspace is going great, but it's just so so so busy. I always say "I'll make a China Cycling video tomorrow" and before I know it a few months have gone by.

@marcbryant8482

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChinaCycling Not surprised its going so well. WS marketing has done an excellent job in the past 12 months or so, clever to send products to youtube reviewers which has really boosted interest here in Aus. Keep up the great work, but I really enjoyed your reviews on chinese parts particularly what was poor vs high quality. Prices of mainstream components in Aus have been insane for 2 years so never a better time to explore off brand gear that works and lasts.

this paintjob is beautiful

Nice to see a new vid, you've been missed. Just in case you see this Joe. Do you still use you're little osmo camera, would you recommend them? I was thinking about buying one and you were the first person I saw with one.

I've got an SLC frameset on order. It's been sitting in Xiamen Airport for the last 8 days, waiting for a flight. I'm going to build it up for a specific event using "real world" components. According to my spreadsheet it should end up about 6.5kg. I'm hoping the Chinese New Year won't delay things too much.

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry for the delay! We wish we had more control over shipping, etc. :(

@maurodapporto

Жыл бұрын

Can you tell us something about the SLC?

Can't wait to see the new paint job! But I do love the Kanazawa--too bad it isn't available in my size anymore. Here in Boston there is probably a zero percent chance I would run into another one. There are too many all black/white bikes so anything distinctive gets my vote/purchase.

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, yeah...I guess if you're overseas you're unlikely to run into another one.

@SherazChoudhary

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChinaCycling I love how distinctive the Kanazawa is but I am sure your new color will be awesome as well! :-) Are you only making only 10 of the new color :-( If you run into a 490 rim (preferable) or 490 disc Kanazawa let me know. Thanks Joe!

@SherazChoudhary

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChinaCycling Hopped on over to your Strava. Love the new distinctive SLC paint job! 😀

I’ve got the SLC2 and just ordered some Hyper 50 rim braked version to go with it.

Great video. It would be great to share where you source these parts. I also wonder if it’s possible to purchase a complete built bike from winspace and ship overseas. It’s probably still would be cheaper than buying parts from LBS after duty + tax.

I starting to love my slc!!

Great video and awesome bike! Could you provide links to buy the products mentioned in the video?

Looks really nice

amazing bike!!!

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Grant!

Hi Joe, love your video. I'm building up a T1500 rim brake version, wondering the cane creek brake work on it too? for the bottom bracket mounting? thanks! :)

impressive build

Watching this for the second time! Equally good haha

Winspace seems to have found the magic key to making very, very good Chinese bike frames and bottom bracket.

Good Luck!

I’ve got one. It replaced my Alez sprint. Geometry is slightly more slack which is nice. I put r7000 on mine. It light enough for me and it is as light at the 7 and 8 grand bikes I’m seeing.

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear. I'm also an Allez Sprint owner. Totally different bikes. The SLC frame is almost half the weight of the Allez Sprint frame.

@alexeysoroka8349

2 жыл бұрын

How do you like it compared to your Allez Sprint? Better more fun, etc. I am also thinking on using r7000 mechanical rim brake group set and some average carbon wheels. What is the total weight of your bike?

@fukairen9601

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChinaCycling how do u think about the stiffness between these frame? I read some comments said SLC2.0 have some issue(tires contact with fork under high power)

Fun to see the Unaas bag, they’re local to me here in the Oslo area.

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

I met Emil Unaas a few years ago. :) Good guy.

I love the paint job. So cool! A shame it's only a limited edition. I'm also looking for a good crankset for a bike build. The Incolor Skypivot caught my eye. Where can you buy those?

@ChinaCycling

Жыл бұрын

Not on sale I think, still working out some bugs.

How it feels on the flat if using 40-50mm wheels? Im looking for all round frame but Winspace advise T1300 frame is already discontinued

Can you speak to the aerodynamic difference between the lightweight climbing bike in your video and Winspace's more aero specific offerings? On the flat, are the Winspace aero bikes notably faster? Nice review, thanks.

Dang the paintjob is cool

Great Vid Keen to get some components. Could you please share the links. Google isn’t providing a whole lot from Australia Thanks

Can you share the link where to buy those parts? Thanks!

Is that a 50/34 crankset? Beautiful build...Thanks for the video. 💯

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

Yes it is! Spin to win!

Hi mate.. nice vid! Where can I find that SkyPivot crankset site? Been searching for it.. thanks

I like Winspace bikes. At the moment I have a 2015 Giant Propel Advanced 1. I like the handling but I don't like the V brakes and aero seat post. I want to buy a Cruzbike V20 Vendetta front wheel drive recumbent which could be the fastest non faired bicycle. But if I got another diamond frame bike the Winspace SLC01 would be the top choice.

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

I just think its great to be able to still buy a "traditional" double-diamond frame with rim brakes when everyone else is producing disc brake frames only.

@martintramuntbikemallorcak481

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChinaCycling agreed!!

Question : how do I get my hands on Skypivot cranks? I am based in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Thanks in advance! 🙏

Thanks for the comment and producing a good quality video! However, I had a different purchasing experience than you. I’m totally unsatisfied along the journey since I convinced with all the reviews from your channel and decided to purchase frameset from local dealer. First, it was taking them 2months to arrive but I heard from them usually it takes only 2-3 weeks. I can feel that the dealer literally want to push for one size XS for stock clearance. I already told him many times I owned a Caad12 in size 48 (geo similar to size 47 for SLC 2.0) and size work for me too. The first shipment is scheduled at mid Feb but he claimed the manufacturer didn’t ship the size S and keep pushing me for size XS again. I insist. Finally, the frames has arrived last Friday, I go and pick it up. I immediately sent the frames to my mechanic for bike setup. They have identified several serious quality issues, which could lead to unsafe. So, they are refrain from setting up for me. First, there is no gap between fork and frames even we have inserted the bearing as provided. Each is touching with each other. Also the bearing has 45 degree angle which the fork is in L shape. It is not evenly taking the load and impact which may causing the crack. Next, the hole for place the bearing is much larger than the edge of the bearing. It is not fitted and it may causing the bearing moving around and damaging the frame. The same issue we found on the upper headset, the surface to hold the is not flat. There is a certificate tag signed and chop by the Winspace Ltd. How can such problems persisted and what are they QA dept doing??? I and really concern with other buyers. Please be cautious before you decide to buy anything from the company. Please refer to the link for the video and picture which would give you more solid convince about my statement. drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Qf9crxip0IfbN-5_bmW10LIZXjwbbfIp?usp=sharing . Could you be my voice to Winspace?

@lemonago

2 жыл бұрын

so…… maybe u don't know the Joe is Winspace's staff

@maurodapporto

Жыл бұрын

Did you solved the problem ?

What a bike. Any good 9reliable0 source where to get some of the parts that you used on your biuild? (Stem, handlebar, seatpost etc.) Thanks

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Martin. Because I'm in China, the channels I buy from (Taobao) are different to the channels used by overseas customers (Usually AliExpress.) I have never bought anything on AliExpress, but it always comes across to me as a bit like the wild west. I don't wanna recommend a particular seller in case their service is less than stellar. If a seller has their own website with direct sales then I'll usually throw in a link (I believe I have for XCADEY before.) Sorry that it means you have to find the things yourself. I encourage people in the comments to share reliable sellers on AliExpress though! :)

I wish winspace could source some of the cool parts you used like the bottle cages and post and add them to the website. I'm ready to try winspace..do I go with a 550 if I ride 54 and 56 cm bikes?

When building it up with mechanical, do you just tread the cables through the liner or do you use the liner as a guide then remove later?

What is the difference between direct mount brake and regular mount brake?

I’ve just bought an SLC as I love the reviews.What bb86 do you use Joe?

@ChinaCycling

Жыл бұрын

I think I used Token Ninja. I have a Hambini BB, but my crank is 30mm not 24mm...so... Hambini BB is waiting until I have a good 24mm crank.

well, I loved this channel before you were bought by winspace. Now I'm watching an ad, and not a review. Hopefully Trace posts more stuff soon.

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

I can 100% relate to your sentiment. As I said in the video, this is not a review, and I won't review Winspace products due to the obvious bias. I'm passionate about bikes, and this channel is about sharing that passion. Of course I'm passionate about Winspace because that's what I work on now. I'm not sure what you do for a living, but I assume you're proud of your work and you would recommend it to your friends and family? Anyway, I do genuinely love all feedback, positive or negative - so thanks Christopher.

Looking at slc 2.0 frameset on winspace website size 440 however in geometry there is only 450(xs) for the geometry can you confirm this is the correct geometry for 440? Since getting a bicycle component part is hard, is winspace have a plan to sell a full build bike rather than frame and wheel?

If Hambini gives a 🦭 of approval it’s golden

skypivot crankset has been out of production for several months now.. any idea where to get them?

Impressive bike, I think that the main issue today is the transport cost, this will affect us as final buyers. 😢 but what a bike.

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

Air freight costs these days are crazy. X_X As Winspace get bigger economies of scale give them more shipping options though, which is why at the moment frames still have free shipping.

Any idea when they’ll restock this colourway?

Where can we buy the Chinese bike parts you listed? Like the saddle and seat post?

Hey Joe! I'm looking to build my own SLC 2.0 in super light black. I wanted to know what the lightest headset I can pair it up with ? I don't have the frameset in hand so I can't really shop around. I'm looking to get ahead and ask you directly

is there an china makers of Stem Suspension ? similar to REDshift ? would love if you review them. thanks

Hmmm Inhave been looking for the skypivot crankset when will they release this bad boy!? It been in development for sometime and have read up regarding some of the problems they have had while developing it

Please can you help me and tell me where did you buy the incolor SKYPIVOT crank and the crane crees EE brakes? Thanks

hey, do you have some link where to buy crank Skypivot? I am searching I can not find anything. :( It looks very good.

How tall are you? Curious about the frame sizing at 470, if that's right for me. Thanks!

Hi compare to ELVES Vanyar Carbon frame ? What do you think ?

So how does one purchase the sky pivot crank arms?

Bellissima e da quello che si vede anche fatta bene anche se i freni rim dalle mie parti non sono il massimo per le frenate ma comunque complimenti 🤙

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

Not as good braking as fully hydraulic, but... a lot lighter and a lot simpler.

I'm interested in an SLC2.0 in Superlight Black, Rim Brake, size 470mm, but it's only available in 580mm at the moment. Most of the other combinations also don't have most sizes available currently. Any idea when more sizes will be available?

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

At the moment everything is closed for Chinese New Year. After the break we'll see where we're at.

For those who thinks the cankset is great, please read this. I owned a 2nd gen skypivot crank and the metal piece which the pedals are mounted to broke free of the crank body on one of my training ride, there have been dozens of similar cases reported, it is a total death trap. The company-incolor, despite knowing the problem, they did nothing to warn users of the later versions, and their customer service is so lame even in China. Hard to imagine after-sell in overseas market....

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

Will all be mentioned in my review! This is the third generation where the pedal thread isn't bonded to the crank, but rather an interference fit.

@Juicesters22

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChinaCycling Can share the site for this crankset? keen to purchase

@msmyankees

2 жыл бұрын

Can’t find anyone selling them online either

Can you please still link the products in the description. Unfortunately I can not find the crank, cassette and handlebars via Google.

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

The cassette should be on AliExpress, "SROAD Cassette" should find it. The bars I don't publicly recommend. I've been to their factory and there was no quality control of incoming goods / materials. Things like this I think maybe you have a very small chance of it going wrong - so I feel fine using it myself. But recommending it to 40,000 people, that's a totally different ball game. Also, because there's no branding on the bar, it means you don't know if you're getting the same as me, or something that just looks the same. The crank - I don't think it's released yet. They had some problems with earlier production and are working on it the last I heard.

where did you buy InColor Skypivot crankset ? Please provide link to a retailer. I searched but have not found any ? I'll appreciate your help, I'm a subscriber to your very interesting chanel.

How is your red etap groupset 580g and mine is around 660g?

Where did you geht the bottlecages?

what do u think about t1500 vs slc?

When will you introduce 2023 SLC? SLC 2.0 is out of stock and I would like to buy one.

Suprised this doesn't get more exposure in the British hill climb scene.

You guys make amazing frames and wheels for the price and quality really make us usa folks look way over priced

Where can I get a Treh saddle?

Hi how tall are you juat trying to decide what size to get in the windspace frame slc 2.0 rim

Would be great if you had links for all the parts in the build - looks amazing

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

Because I'm in China, the channels I buy from (Taobao) are different to the channels used by overseas customers (Usually AliExpress.) I have never bought anything on AliExpress, but it always comes across to me as a bit like the wild west. I don't wanna recommend a particular seller in case their service is less than stellar. If a seller has their own website with direct sales then I'll usually throw in a link (I believe I have for XCADEY before.) Sorry that it means you have to find the things yourself. I encourage people in the comments to share reliable sellers on AliExpress though! :)

@jonathankirwan5757

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChinaCycling gent, thank you for the response!

@binshuo

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChinaCycling Could you share the taobao link for the cassette, please? If not getting a new bike, I'll probably ask a friend who's going to come back from China to Canada to get a cassette for me.

@tabl10s

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChinaCycling, What is the name of the the bottle cages?

@benedictthong379

2 жыл бұрын

@china cycling. I use the china Taobao too.. What the name in Chinese for the Sroad Cassette, Generic Carbon Handlebar? Cannot find in 淘宝 search in English

Any idea when ur company will restock? all t1500 n slc2.0 are out of stock at the moment…

Hey Joe. Will the 1300 with externally routed disc frame be coming back in the future? P.S. my dad has been punishing me with his new hyper 50 rims :P

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

I don't forsee the 1300 coming back in stock. Not enough resources / time to produce everything at the moment. Sorrrrrrrrry. :( Glad your dad is enjoying his wheels though!

How tall are you / for the size small frame?

sz of the frame and ur height? Thank you! ☺

Would love some more info on the crankset! Is there a company website as I can't find anything. Can you get a 24mm axle version that would work with a BB86 bottom bracket?

@HFF2K

2 жыл бұрын

The SLC has a BB86 bottom bracket

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

Has 24 or 30mm spindle options. I took the 30mm spindle because it's lighter, but obviously bearing life will be inferior.

@OlieSimpson

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChinaCycling Cheers Joe! Do you know where they can be bought as I can't find anything online.

Any links to those Incolour Skypivot Cranks?

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

I think they're still refining them before mass production. Will make sure there's a link when I do the final review.

Now that your life is more winspace focused, have you ever thought of hiring staff to do the more general content for this channel? I think there is still an appetite outside of China to hear more boots-on-the-ground stories.

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but I'm a bit of a control freak. Even at Winspace. I find it very hard to delegate tasks and like to do everything myself. X_X but it's not sustainable. Will maybe look into a co-host in 2022!

Do one that can take rim breaks and a 35mm tire and it would be a world beater.

Is this skypivot crank the second generation？they lost their credit for several cases of dropping the pedal in the first generation. Did it make any trouble with you? I know recently the VFV seatpost is very popular in Chinese riders, would you make a video reviewing it?

@ChinaCycling

2 жыл бұрын

I think this may even be the third generation, but yes. This is the one where the pedal thread isn't bonded, instead it's an interference fit. I already have the VFV seatpost on my gravel bike for review! :)

@user-vw7fz3eq1b

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChinaCycling thanks, am excited for your next video.

38mm por 50mm rim brake ???