flat out threatens to kill a teammate on stage in front of the ref, is found guilty of match fixing, doesnt even get a 2 year ban. bruh

@vgamedude12

2 ай бұрын

meanwhile if you say a naughty racist no no word you get perma banned. What a joke riot is.

@Dovah_Slayer

28 күн бұрын

Tbf gamers say that shit all the time

“Have your hand tendons removed” is a VERY creative specific threat.

"Soft play" is one of the hardest things to prove. Sometimes you just hit a slump.

Not to condone whats going on, but how funny of a game would we get if 2 organizations separately paid off teams to lose, and then those 2 teams faced each other!

@romad6963

Ай бұрын

That episode of South Park where the South Park boys and other rival baseball teams tried throwing the game comes to mind

@captainbube1217

Ай бұрын

@@romad6963bro i was about to comment exactly that.

@kira-dk2mx

Ай бұрын

I would not be surprised if that actually happens.

@letsmakeit110

Ай бұрын

happened in olympic badminton about a decade ago. they had a round robin pools, then bracket style setup where both teams wanted to lose to get a better bracket. they started just playing "soft", eventually serving it into the net like 5 times in a row. During the investigation one team realized the evidence was indisputable and fessed up, while the other tried claiming their players were "tired". So tired they lost to a team who was intentionally trying to lose, lol. In the end both teams were disqualified from the bracket.

Starcraft 2 had something similar in 2015, featuring some of the most popular and respected players in the game. Caused most of the esports organisations to flee from the game entirely. The game's still going strong, but the Korean scene never recovered from that scandal.

@Abyssoft

2 жыл бұрын

Was that the one were the guy behind it all ended up killing himself when he was facing criminal charges?

@CantusTropus

2 жыл бұрын

@@Abyssoft I never heard about anything like that. What I do know is that Life, who up until that point was one of the most famous and well-respected Starcraft players of all time, became so disgraced that his name still cannot be mentioned in official broadcasts, and he became a kind of "Man Who Cannot Be Named" of Starcraft. From what I know (and I could be wrong), Korean culture is extremely judgmental towards criminals, which isn't exactly unfair, but it also contributes to a strong mob mentality, and prevents them from admitting that someone who was unfairly accused was actually innocent, because they "have to be guilty" (which has happened a few times).

@tapiocaweasel

2 жыл бұрын

@@Abyssoft i think that might have been the cheating scandal in Starcraft Broodwar that occured in liker 2005 or somehting. SaviOr, the best zerg in the world around then, was taken down. I didn't know it happened again in SC2

@TheSuperappelflap

2 жыл бұрын

the reason most esports orgs quit the game was actually blizzard deciding to region lock the WCS tournaments, which meant korean players could no longer participate in EU and NA leagues without a visum. the matchfixing scandal didnt have much impact besides sending Life to kespa prison.

@prawngravy18

2 жыл бұрын

@@Abyssoft you might be thinking of the asian league player who tried to jump to his death when after it was found out he was forced to fix matches, luckily he survived though. His name was promise, his manager was betting on their team whilst fixing games.

I have teammates feeding and throwing games all the time in League! Where is my paycheck?

@cim888

Жыл бұрын

Maybe its because you flame your teammates too much? 😂

38 individuals is insane considering that there are only 26 teams of 5(that's 130 total players). Though there where a few non-player actors in there, but still insane

@KaloKross

2 жыл бұрын

brace yourself for the truth of the other leagues coming out, im sure it will be a few years or at least c9s ownership fully changes over

@jimmythecrow

2 жыл бұрын

this is very common.

@jimmythecrow

2 жыл бұрын

@@KaloKross yup, tons of these streamers people love are actually cheaters

@alicehiess6508

Ай бұрын

Lilith, that’s nearly a 3rd

@S4NSE

Ай бұрын

You might have forgotten the fourth dimension

I've always thought that getting caught match-fixing, not just talking about it, but actually doing it deserves a lifetime ban, regardless of which sport or esport. Why should any team trust you again after definitive proof is found? Won't every single bad game you have in the future be suspect, especially if it's against an objectively worse team?

To be honest I'm not really into esports at all, but this was quite interesting and kept me engaged. Cheers!

@Abyssoft

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Storster, it was an unfortunate but interesting story, glad you enjoyed it

@europeanmango6596

2 жыл бұрын

I’m not saying it is but this seems like the fakest comment. It’s at the top too haha.

@ieuanhunt552

2 жыл бұрын

It's like watching a Summoning Salt video. I have very little interest in speedrunning. I will however watch a 40 history lesson on blindfoldeded Punch Out! speedruns.

Tbh all professional sports go through a period of corruption and fixing games. This just means E-sports are mainstream lol

@Abyssoft

2 жыл бұрын

Hockey is the only sport I can think of that hasn't had any match fixing revealed in its entire history

@Sevenigma777

2 жыл бұрын

@@Abyssoft well maybe not on a massive scale but there has been many accusations throughout the years of people fixing game. You can look it up. More so I think hockey hasn't really been caught they fly under the radar being there aren't as big as NFL and NBA. It's also harder to prove stuff as it is a low scoring sport so the gambling lines are harder to prove collusion and/or harder to Influence. Although NHL may not have had a massive gambling problem there has been isolated incidents but also NHL had more problems involving money laundering and players illegally betting on other sports as in Operation Slapshot.

@JoJoZaka

2 жыл бұрын

it means they're unregulated because nobody takes sweating in a chair as a serious sport

@az8039

2 жыл бұрын

UFC is pretty clean

@mikemck4796

2 жыл бұрын

It means they need to figure out how to solve it if they want to be mainstream. There are other games once popular that are varying degrees of niche now due to their scandals.

I want to see a match we're both teams are paid to take a dive and the length they'll got to not to win

I never played league, but this is nuts

I don’t follow esports as much, but I know it’s dishonorable when there’s shady business involved to cause match-fixing controversies.

call me crazy, but if someone was found to fix a match, it should be an automatic permanent ban. It's inexcusable and will forever be an asterisk associated with anything they ever do in the game in the future. I know next to nothing about League of Legends, but game-fixing delegitimizes the entire industry

@informitas0117

2 жыл бұрын

Of course that should be the case, only the whistle blower should be left with no punishment to encourage it. Only permanent bans will stop it.

While LoL and MOBA in general are pretty much the worst games out there and me lacking any interest in esport in general, this was kinda interesting after all.

Love the content man, probably won’t stick around for the premier cause I have work tomorrow but your videos are incredible and I hope this comment finds you well. Much love

Your vids keep getting better nice job

I wonder how big a...riot...this caused, amongst the LoL competitive crowd.

@trongnghiachu1977

Жыл бұрын

I know the pun. 😂

Stuff like this is why all players need to be compensated fairly regardless of placement

@SomebodyPerfectly

2 жыл бұрын

Can't stop the greedy by giving them more of what they greed for.... But you are right...the US academy players have a 75k minimum salary thats TWICE of what a chinese team JDK advertises (about 37k USD)....and the Cn salaries are capped aswell (be it to ensure competition, or to take away bargaining power from the pros)

@soupstoreclothing

Ай бұрын

it's proven that people are less likely to do any kind of crime if they have their basic necessities and some luxuries guaranteed. this is why universal basic income amd countries that practice it result in less crime. it's the same concept as you're talking about. the less well compensated players are going to cheat bc they're not being compensated as well as other competitors. i'm not sure about the cost of living but i do know that jealousy can drive people to crime as well.

Dang, my boy lethargicwaldo is really good at league! :). Great vid dude

imagine risking your whole career for 500$...

@sycophant8470

2 жыл бұрын

spoilers when you do it is because you arent making enough money from the thing you are required to work on more than a full time job

@SCHMOBEX

2 жыл бұрын

@@sycophant8470 considering how much an average management person in esports can make its an very easy fix. especially when the owner makes 100k+ on a thrown match offering 5k or more is not really that much then lmao

@sycophant8470

2 жыл бұрын

@@SCHMOBEX many top tier players only make 6 digits do you think people in minor regions and development leagues make?

@testerwulf3357

2 жыл бұрын

@@sycophant8470 That’s why esport shouldn’t be your main job especially as during aging you’ll naturally get worse and become part of lower ladders with younger people taking up top spots..playing games isn’t a full time job. They only cheated because they got greedy and saw a way to make money, it’s how gambling works..gambling works by pulling on humanities greed.

@sycophant8470

2 жыл бұрын

@@testerwulf3357 you are acting like you aren't putting in even more work than a fulltime job to become top level.

This is why i see all Athletes/olympic athletes/entertainers(movies music shows) & gamers as just people who are exceptionally good at things. Im a true fan of Very few things

sacrifice to the algorithm

This is one of the most stupid, and simultaneous important, story in gaming. Watching the game-play when hearing about the infractions, the money... smh good vid! i like how you mix the channel content up now and then, it's not all just the same speed-running (though don't stray too far from that, it's why we all subscribed in the first place!

@Abyssoft

2 жыл бұрын

The plan is to keep the speedrunning content the main focus, but to cover topics outside of it now and then as well; this is the test to see if that plan is a good one

I always find it odd when people get banned when they report that something dodgy is happening, I mean if they're coming forward to call out this behaviour then why ban them?

@blackpepper2610

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe because they also involved in it

@LucianDevine

2 жыл бұрын

Depends when they report it. If they report it the moment they are approached about it then they shouldn't get a ban. If they fixed several games and profited on it only to eventually report it, they should absolutely still get a ban.

@theheavenlyfb4071

2 жыл бұрын

@@LucianDevine Ah I gotcha

@Grimeaper

Жыл бұрын

Whistleblowers, who report to the FBI that their company is doing shady shit that could get people killed get fired and black balled it is the same shit different company typical practice. It is a way to instill fear over others who work for you, while making an example. So you can get away with future shady shit.

They’re all a bunch of cheaters

Spunk... bruh, don't these players google search the random English words at least once before confirming it as their username?

@unluckyomens370

3 ай бұрын

Tbf it does have like 2.5 meanings in english

I wonder if the whistleblower will get a phone call from the Chinese Government and then mysteriously disappear

Great video, but I dunno if I can trust anything a talon player says. Pretty braindead, to a man.

@Abyssoft

2 жыл бұрын

Talon footage wasn't me!

When will the e fighting end

As a long time pool player and fan, I don’t look forward to the amount of fuckery e-gaming will be introduced to in the upcoming years.

Ohhhh E-Sports, think i know whats coming...

Seems to me like that might be, relatively, at least, one of the most wide spread cases of cheating not just in esports, but sports in general. To be spread across that many people, in that many teams, and two separate leagues? That's way more in depth than a single team deflating footballs or even the Chicago White Sox throwing games for the mob.

@ManaDrain315

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know, but I'd assume that PED use is pretty widespread in all physically demanding sports.

I just can't believe the name spunk was allowed in the LCS.

I hate people who cheat/ are dishonorable with competition so fucking much

Didn't expect to see a league video from you, quite unexpected because I love league lol good stuff

Here we go, Bois

How does esports have the power to ban you from streaming? That's like a player in the NFL getting caught cheating and the league saying you're banned from the NFL and you aren't allowed to play football at your home.

@DDDHunter

2 жыл бұрын

They own the software, they can just ban any account they are using

@mariusjenkins7294

2 жыл бұрын

They run the servers, so if they ban you and you are streaming the game, that means you are playing on their servers and bypassing the ban either with a new account or a VPN if you are IP banned...

@John-xs9ru

2 ай бұрын

Companies dont exist to provide products or services to their customer. They exist to exercise control over the consumer; what they purport to provide to the consumer is merely the means by which they seek to exert control or to justify their control.

@MrDeldris

Ай бұрын

You don't own the games you buy, you buy a license to use the game. This also gives the company the right to revoke this license, so it they want to ban you from their game in any scenario then they can.

@LiEnby

8 күн бұрын

​@@MrDeldristhat's just a nicer version of what other person said. Tbh

One of the cited incidents of alleged match fixing being a Yasuo player ditching the team fight to farm creeps is just too perfect. I guess even pros aren’t immune to bronze-level behavior

Cheating in gaming is about as sad as it gets

This guy sounds exactly like Gersh One from Onemindsyndicate.

Chinese Competitive Match-Fixing? Frankly, I'm not surprised. :/

Gambling making everything corrupt and dirty!? Color me surprised!

I didnt understand what Match-fixing is?

Good video :)

I forgot to check the date and didn't realized this wasn't about VCS lol, those don't learn about history doomed to repeat it.

Me watching this and not knowing a damn thing about League or its pro competitive scene: 😳😳😳😳😳😮😮😮😮😮🤯🤯🤯🤯

You never explain what lpl or ldl mean; I know nothing of this game and hoped the video would explain what and how things were fixed/cheated, but it’s just info dump

The thumbnail looks like an irl discord server XD

Lets look into other Esports, not just LoL. People need to look into how much casual play for these games are infiltrated with ranked puzzies looking for cheap wins. Its not just match fixing (although this qualifies as such, just in the opposite for rank boosting). Pathetic people like these need all forms of bans enacted, not just partial bans, but also extensive bans (on any and all current and future alts as well)

One thing to 'cheat' or 'mod' your own personal game file when you play alone - a whole different ballpark when you cheat in public games and there is prizes involved. I don't take part in ESports, but it blows my mind people cheat.

you mean inting...diving is something else. But great video!!! :) Diving: trying to kill an opponent by DIVING (going) INTO tower range hoping to get out of range with a kill before/without dying yourself, often leads to death without getting a kill. INTING however (which is what you mean), stands for INTENTIONAL! For example: Intentional FEEDING! Feeding being Dying by an enemy player's hand over and over giving him advantages. INTING, in this case, means INTENTIONALLY feeding an opponent deaths for whatever reason...per example Gambling debts that have to be paid XD

@imperator9343

4 ай бұрын

"taking a dive" or just "diving" is a general term across competitive sports, independent of the specific gameplay meaning within LoL/MOBAs

Bro gangplank built Ludens lol

I'm confused. What advantage would these player even get from INTENTIONALLY losing games

@Abyssoft

2 жыл бұрын

The money they, and their coaches and owners get from betting on outcomes they already know will happen

@TheGaming100

2 жыл бұрын

@@Abyssoft so you get money from betting on the outcome on the match as opposed to actually winning the match? If anything, that seems very counter intuitive

@Abyssoft

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGaming100 they can't guarantee that they will win the match, but they can guarantee they will lose by playing poorly. There were other things being bet on as well from what I read, like their own performance in lane, but as I said in the video one of the team owners was making hundreds of thousands by match fixing.

china at it yet again on another esports scandal

And now we're doing it again with the VCS lol

Wait isn't this illegal? Like not just cheating but actually against the law?

'oh cool a video about saviour, it's been a while' oh nvm

These 2 month bans are too short???

I mean.... was it even that big of a scandal? It didn't really affect any of the major regions, and all that came of it was one really good rookie got shafted to a shit league. As far as scandals go, this one was pretty inconsequential.

9:12 hoooly shit I hope that pro player is still ok

In my times, it was only about 322 lol

And where is cheating here?

Haha having endemic corruption is the closest esports has come to being an actual sport

Any cheating should be a lifetime ban.

Ah yes a 4th of the pro players cheated, never change

I mean you have a game full of trash people who throw match’s just to troll and you expect the “pros” to be better ?

It's b.s but we have to add Filipino champ

Okay, yeah. I can get how they’re banned from a league. But what people do in the privacy of their own home is none of said leagues concern. As long as they aren’t messing with any official league matches you cannot ban someone from streaming a game to their own streaming channel. You’d be violating their privacy. Streaming under the league sure that’s fair. But in private under unofficial terms. No.

720p okk

Gotta say people who bet and gamble are always losers, be it cards, sport or e-sport. You burn your money over immaterial things, you ruin the competition and you ruin the fun for everyone else. If you have a gambling problem, get help or “help” yourself by biting a pill of cyanide.

i think you should activate windows

Die Fitschies wieder..

Bigger than shroud?

The fuck?

As I used to always say while playing League when my toxic ass friends would argue with the enemies "Come on, guys, it's just a game. Can't we have fun with our friends?"

Why would they ban the whistle blower indefinitely? Or even for 4 months. Kinda messed up. Like they wanna discourage whistle blowing in the future.

Hey nice video. You should've define what is "match fixing" the first time you mentioned it. As someone outside of e-sports I was lost for like 4 minutes.

@aaronloach

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing :P

@LiEnby

8 күн бұрын

Loosing on purpose basically

Seems like it if u weren't one of the 38 you were slacking. A duty to cheat.

LoL - League of Losers RIOT is the most toxic entity involved

That's why no one takes Esport seriously, and it will NEVER be a professional "sport"

@paulelderson934

Ай бұрын

As opposed to real sport, where this definitely doesn't happen.

"Using an ability with a long cooldown WONTONly" Cause it's the Lpl kek

League's so toxic that even if you're a pro, but you're actually bad, it's "fixing" lmfao

I guess league has to be #1 in something since its such a shitgame compared to dota

Hi

Chinese teams corrupt. Shocking

Hello

The Chinese are the biggest cheats in basically anything competitive. This is not shocking in the slightest.

You still get burned for doing the right thing. What a wholesome black pill

I have never even seen DOTA be played before now. Guess this is my first impression xD

Good video, well researched. You might want to run a few words by someone before recording, a few of the mispronunciations were a bit amusing, undercuts the authoritative narration a bit. Won-Ton-ly was kind of amusing though.

U are Like Karl Jobst lol

JFC 😳

A Chinese group cheating??? Who would have thought?! 😂

Esports is just another pro wrestling 😢

Cmon people just a 7th of the Views in Likes? He put a lot of work into this he deserves more! Like darn it!

Could you please stop using premiere?

@RayAkuma

2 жыл бұрын

Could you please pull that stick out where it doesnt belong? It makes you obnoxious.

@callmekrystal

2 жыл бұрын

what a cringe commennt puffpiece

@IllusoryMaze

2 жыл бұрын

I know why you're saying this, but rather than asking people not to use features the site makes available, we should be asking KZread to make it so the premiere notifications can be disabled.

@jewels3846

2 жыл бұрын

I like it. How about you complain to youtube if the notifications bug you? Not one caters to one person. Thats stupid

Your vocal fry is terrible for a public speaker. Do better.

@jangofatt7135

2 жыл бұрын

You're a punk jabroni.

@jewels3846

2 жыл бұрын

We found a match fixer! 😂

Very racist to pronounce it WONTON-LEE when discussing chinese folx.

@Tekenu

2 жыл бұрын

Do you personally know Wonton Lee?