The Russians didn’t do well against the Germans in The Great War. They were almost stopped by the Finns. Stalin had purged his officer cadre. I could see how the Germans thought that the next big push would end the war.

@JDDC-tq7qm

Жыл бұрын

To be fair tho Russia was able to destroy Austria-Hungary an ally to Germany and win decisive battles against the Ottomans it was Bolsheviks who let Russia down in WW1 , Finland lost their land twice in Winter war and 1945 , Stalin was a genius for his purge Russia was more united in WW2

@JDDC-tq7qm

Жыл бұрын

@Mario Schlemmer bro the Burislov offensive completely annihilated the Austro-Hungarian army in WW1 Russia needed a better leadership to guide to victory Nicholas II wasn't that guy

@aburoach9268

Жыл бұрын

@@JDDC-tq7qm the victories in Finland were both Pyrrhic and thus costly and Stalins Purge caused it / that poor performance also convinced the Germans to invade the USSR, which Ironically is a good thing for the USSR, considering how it turned out, Because if the Germans had decided to take a defensive stance against the USSR from the start Then they actually might've won in the end by having developed nukes and other Wunderwaffe which neither UK nor USSR would have any chance against

@landonlacy1954

Жыл бұрын

@@JDDC-tq7qm do you truly believe that Stalin was “A genius” for purging the Russian officer Corps? Or are you trying to be sarcastic?

@JDDC-tq7qm

Жыл бұрын

@Mario Schlemmer bro Nicholas II didn't know how to use his large army but it was Bolshevism who kicked Russia out of the war Ottoman Empire and Austria-Hungary was on it's knees against the Allies all Russia had to do is hold for one more year and Centennial power would've surrendered a year later

The biggest mistake of Operation Barbarossa? That would be launching it in the first place. Germany lost the war the second they did. They were hopelessly overmatched by the USSR and did not realize it.

As usual Ty, you present an interesting video and commentary that causes the audience to think and analyze what they believe. Well done again and thank you

My grandfather was a counterintelligence officer of the NKVD and fought in Warsaw, Prague, Berlin. My other grandfather's brother was a tanker and fought in Stalingrad. They both survived. My great-grandfather's brother also survived, but returned home wounded and crippled. He had gunshot and shrapnel wounds to his chest, stomach, legs, and he was forced to walk on crutches all his life. My other grandfather went missing (probably died) in the battle for Rzhev. I know everything from the stories of my father and mother

@jeffclark7888

2 жыл бұрын

Great!

@mikesbaseballcards

2 жыл бұрын

The feared political NKVD.

@user-bp1di7br1r

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikesbaseballcards He was a counterintelligence officer of the NKVD and was in 1943-1947. Before that, he was a machine gunner, and went to war at the age of 17.

@jeffclark7888

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikesbaseballcards yes.

@richardgietzen4591

2 жыл бұрын

I am so sorry as an America your struggles and those of your country men and women where completely ignore in my study of Ww2. Only until recently with the introduction of the Internet and the (free flow) of information was Russia's struggle made clear to me Then as today Russia is branded the ( evil country) bent on world domination. Fortunately this ( lie) is getting harder to sell. Though (capitalism) has won in the struggle for world domination ( greed / self-interest and exploitation) are getting harder to sell as virtues.

I can only partly agree. The initial phase of Operation Typhoon and the Azov battle in the south were very successful and inflicted serious damage on the Soviets. The mistake was later trying to continue after the weather had decisively turned and the initial phase was clearly over, let's say after October 30. But even this was difficult to fully appreciate at the time. Taking Moscow might have done the Soviets in and they were very close. Their enemy might have been at the breaking point. We can see the full extent of the difficulties now but taking the risk for such a large payoff had to be a huge temptation for anyone under the circumstances. Furthermore, even had they stopped there is real doubt that their winter clothing and supply challenges would have been properly addressed.

@657449

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone wants to win the next battle which will end the war

@WagesOfDestruction

2 жыл бұрын

If the Germans had stopped as this video states, in 1943 the Russians would be better organized and equipped. Conversely, the Germans whatever their supply state was in trouble as they run out of oil. Then striking South into Ukraine was very successful, as was the initial start of Operation Typhoon as you state but it was not the weather but the German supply line that collapsed in front of Moscow that caused its failure. This suggests that the operation altogether was beyond the German's ability.

@theivoryking.2582

Жыл бұрын

@@WagesOfDestruction but bad weather also created problems for German supply line.

@WagesOfDestruction

Жыл бұрын

@@theivoryking.2582 weather was a big problem, worsening the supply line, but it was not the biggest problem. In front of Moscow, Germany suffered a supply breakdown.

@kurt5490

Жыл бұрын

As I understand, the plan was to lay siege to Moscow. Ring it and let starvation and disease clear the city. I question if this would have worked. Soviets would have continued to throw divisions against the siege and tried to cut very vulnerable supply lines. Even if Guderian & Hoth were let loose to encircle and destroy this constant flow of newly mobilized units. It was too far, tried to do too many things- but were necessary, on too tight of a time table, against a vastly underestimated enemy. It was doomed to fail.

Very interesting in-depth analysis of what really caused the Nazis to lose the war in Russia. Effective visual aids with archival films n pictures. Kudos for upload. Anticipating ur next one. Peace

This has been eye opening. Thank you!

The logistic problems in Russia was a nightmare for the Wehrmacht. More troops could have been sent to Stalingrad during the battle but weren't because they could not be properly supplied. It was difficult just getting food to the soldiers already there.

@maxhouse2409

2 жыл бұрын

Some replacement troops were sent to Stalingrad, but at the cost of weakening the flanks. It took the Russians two months from observing this action, planning the counteroffensive, to actually pulling it off and creating the "cauldron".

@jiritichy7967

Жыл бұрын

Yes, but it was the overwhelming manpower, industrial power (steel, coal, oil), land vastness, winter conditions and ultimately, the resolve of the Soviets which defeated the Nazis.

@attila7092

Жыл бұрын

@@jiritichy7967 And blocking detachments

@MarkHarrison733

9 ай бұрын

@@jiritichy7967 The USSR only survived due to the western Allies.

@jiritichy7967

9 ай бұрын

@@MarkHarrison733 Nobody denies the help of western Allies. One can speculate what would happen without it. I would be inclined to believe that the outcome would be the same, only with more losses and more prolonged.

Although my answer is very unexpected and highly unheard of The Germans didn't make ANY MISTAKE in 1941 in terms of tactical decision, the Germans lost not just because of logisics,(Russians logistics were terrible) but extremely poor estimation because of following points The red army superiority The US lend lease The Germans made a great decision by attacking kiev ,because it contained more than 65 percent Soviet Russians grain supplies , loss of it would mean the defeat of russia within a year The US lend lease supplied ALL of the soldiers need for the rest of the war ( not just 15 percent of material) but also helped setup 65 percent of Soviet industry ,supplied 40 to 60 percent of steel apart from equipment ,gave 12 million pair of boots and such is overlooked The Germans lost due to poor estimations ,not bad decisions The Germans were both tactically and STRATEGICALLY excellent in thinking Stating that the Germans were tactically good and strategically bad is wrong U boat warfare is an excellent example of this Hitler knew that the Soviet Union will not survive without food ,so he attacked kiev , attacking moscow would have exposed the flank of army group centre ,and the soviets would had attacked from its rear ,the encirclement of kiev saved the Germans from big defeat

I love your videos and analysis, here in the UK, keep up the excellent work!

@waracademy128

Жыл бұрын

Ty man

Very interesting program

.....in 1941 endeed was the winter who stopped wehrmacht to conquer Moscow. But In 1942 the mistake was to split the army even if Russia were a huge land ; caucasus and stalingrad . Plus part of wehrmacht on Leningrad ,the siege. That was the mistake ! All of that was too much for the wehrmacht ,to cover such territory like Russia .

Did not Nazis expect to destroy the Soviet armies before the winter of 1941? The failure to achieve that and the war continuation into 1942 already meant that they were doomed regardless of speculation about the strategies at the end of 1941,

@ReichLife

11 ай бұрын

Except expectation proved correct as they destroyed Soviet armies. Problem was such that German intelligence utterly dropped the ball regarding Soviet initial stockpiles of weapons and capabilities of raising new troops. Still, you're wrong in regard to doomed situation. Depending on perspective, either Germans were doomed before Barbarossa ever launched, or in latter half of 1942, when Fall Blau failed to destroy Soviet southern armies in same manner as it happened throughout Barbarossa. Failure of Barbarossa while a setback, was hardly a war losing event.

@kovesp1

3 ай бұрын

​@@ReichLifeThe war diary of the OKW recorded Hitler saying in the first days of December (at the start of the Moscow counteroffensive) "the war in the East can no longer be won".

@ReichLife

3 ай бұрын

@@kovesp1 Not saying much given OKW was filled with people who later revise history when it was convenient. Far more prevalent quote of Hitler was about him having to end war in case of failure of Fall Blau in 1942 as Germany needed Caucasus oil. Overall though some historian perfectly summarized each year's campaign outcome. With Barbarossa failure, Germany couldn't gain absolute victory anymore. With Fall Blau failure, Germany couldn't gain any victory. With Kursk failure, Germany couldn't even lose on theirs' conditions, instead being set up for total defeat which took place nearly 2 years later.

Interesting!

Excelente Channel

I agree with many of the comments. My friend and I played board games, remember those, in the 1970s. Our favorite was Barbarossa. Both of us won when playing the German side. We let Army Group Center drive on Moscow. We relied on the other two Army Groups to protect Army Group Centers' flanks. Maybe Hitler should have allowed us plan the operation.

@fazole

Жыл бұрын

Did the game use the capture of Moscow as the only objective to win?

@maximkretsch7134

Жыл бұрын

You think he would, based on the results of a board game? 😂

@outlet6989

Жыл бұрын

@@fazole Thanks for your lovely reply, I appreciate receiving those. As you might have guessed, there were two. Moscow and Berlin. The game took so long to complete that fatigue often decided the winner.

A good explanation.

Thank you very much for this video. I’ve always wondered if Germany could have won the war in Russia, because in 1942, they still had enough forces to launch new offensives. Your information that Operation Barbarossa originally envisioned a halt in German offensive operations sometime in October 1941 is a game-changer in my opinion. This merits more attention to help answer the question of whether the Germans really did have a realistic chance of winning in Russia. If they did, then the implication is that invading Russia was not nearly as irrational as we’ve been told for the past 75 years or so.

@MarkHarrison733

9 ай бұрын

Stalin had broken the pact on 28 June 1940.

@BoleDaPole

3 ай бұрын

It was totally rational and a preemptive measure. Ussr positioned it's forces in an offensive position, barely any defensive positions in the east which is why the germans were able to break through so rapidly, only pushed back when stretched to thier limits in places like stalingrad

@derekatkins4800

3 ай бұрын

@@MarkHarrison733 Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin were both untrustworthy.

Good program

The mud screwed their vehicles and they shouldn't have tried to push through it. They must have lost 90% of their motorised strength. After the Kiev operation was completed they should have set fixed their lines to points that were adequately supplied.

There are many reasons for Germany's defeat, this is just one of them. None of those reasons were decisive on their own, but the combination of them was. Especially in the first year the Russians made many more mistakes than the Germans, but they could afford to make them.

@sandrabrearton5781

Жыл бұрын

Wisely stated .

The problem of over stretched supplies of the German Army because of Blitzkrieg offensive is also the problem of Napoleon Bonaparte with his Grand Armee and then General Winter of Russia came in! The Grand Armee of Napoleon Bonaparte is more or less half million men when the invade Russia in 1812 only 30k made it back to France after they retreated k!

If The Field marshals had the guts to say No to Hitler Germany would have been saved

Interesting and informative. Excellent photography job enabling viewers to better understand what/whom the orator was describing. Professional class A research project!!! Invading 30 days late caused problems. Due to an early winter. Along with the disillusioned/arrogant fuhrer 😈 ordering general Guderian to halt entering Moscow. Once the blitzkrieg momentum was broken. It was never regained. Giving general Zhukov ample opportunity to reorganize his demoralized forces. Reinforce Moscow's perimeters.

Good Bye ....Many thanks for sharing this Video & accurate Military analysis about Barbarossa Operation Mistakes didactics by German Army during 1941-1942 on USSR Territories ..Good Lick & Go on

The lack of fuel (OKH calculations estimated that in late October the German Army will run out of fuel, so they had to defeat the Red Army until then) and the bad logistics (couldn't bring the needed fuel, ammunition, spare parts, food -that's why the order was that the soldiers would be fed from the conquered lands -, clothes - they were prepared for winter but the ammunition and fuel had priority) were the cause for loosing the war (this explains also why Germany was so desperate to occupy Moscow in 1941, they knew that in 1942 their offensive power would be very limited). I repeat, lack of fuel and bad logistics.

Most people don’t know is after the initial success of typhoon that the chief of staff argued to continue the offensive.

But I could never figure out is why the hell they didn’t take winter gear into Russia

@christianermecke9941

Жыл бұрын

Because they did not expect a winter campaign! All operational plans expected a complete victory within 9-13weeks, there was no Plan B. They had prepared stocks of Winter clothing for the 60 divisions that would guard the final line Volga-Archangelsk, but with supply situation turning into a desaster in Winter 41 there was hardly any clothing actually coming through to the front-lines.

@GrantHarri

Жыл бұрын

Because they expected the victory would be completed by September/oct at the latest -from the the summer of June 22 1941-but I agree

@silversurfer640

3 ай бұрын

Because they arrogantly thought that they wouldn't need it. Hitler said the war in Russia would be over, before the winter set in properly. He was wrong.

I agree with this analitics

Logistics, logistics, logistics.

Also, I don't think the Germans predicted that the Americans would supply the Soviet Union with most of the steel needed for their T34s. Even Zhukov said that the USSR would have lost without American steel.

@dpt6849

2 жыл бұрын

Who made money by those transfers???

@MrDaiseymay

2 жыл бұрын

i BET HE SAID THAT AFTER---STALINS DEATH.

@aurorathekitty7854

2 жыл бұрын

@@dpt6849 Mostly American companies. The United State's supplied70% of the world's steel at the time. It was truly a miracle of production that the United State's pulled off during ww2. I can't remember who said this quote but it goes like this.... British ingenuity, American production, and Soviet blood won ww2

@dpt6849

2 жыл бұрын

@@aurorathekitty7854 who owns most those companies? And all moneytransfers go via banks. It makes me wonder.

@malchik4789

2 жыл бұрын

@@dpt6849 jews

The army group in the south should of been the main focus of Barbarossa. Army groups Centre and North should of been to set up to establish suppliable defensive lines whilst the thrust in South for oil should of been their main priority. That was Germany's only chance of victory.

@rockbottom8502

Жыл бұрын

and they should have talked the Japanese out of attacking Pearl Harbor and just made attacks on the British in the Far East. The US entering the war at the climatic period of Dec, 1941 strained Germany's resources even further than it already was.

@leemugleston6422

2 ай бұрын

Agreed with the objective the oil fields and not Stanlingrad. They could then have linked up with Rommel to win the desert campaign then gradually moved North to take Stanlingrad, Moscow and Leningrad. Without oil the Red Army would have been severely compromised.

Army Group Centre was not making a scheduled halt for rest and refitting, that would taken a fortnight. Germans stopped in front of Smolensk for almost two months

I agree with your analysis. I believe Nazi ideology played a big part with over confidence. Hitler had not had a mistake made right up to Barbarossa

No mention at all about the desires...and orders...of the Commander in Chief...The "Leader". Would He have agreed to an over the winter halt? I think perhaps not.

Was waiting for you to throw up a new history lesson for me and my family.

A tank barrel can t be fired more than 900 rounds without being replaced .

As the saying go is mostly true and this feature brought color to it; "Strategies are for amateurs and logistics are for professionals."

the should have used something like the Sentinal steam truck, as it could use wood and in the cold would have been in motion constantly and been a low tech power system where the rail lines where not.. it could been half tracked to get by the mud.

in Guderian's autobiography he flew to Berlin to implore Hitler to attack Moscow as the time was right. Instead Hitler insisted on the Southern encirclement which delayed the assault on Moscow till the sudden onset of freezing conditions. Had Army group centre attacked at Guderian's insistence they may have spent Winter in a city instead of being exposed on the step.

Biggest mistake was not looking at damn map

6:05 WTF??? AI gone haywire here?

The biggest mistake of operation barbarossa was the operation barbarossa itself, before june 22 1941 the germans had met no resistance from the conquered countries they seized before barbarossa, hell the germans grabbed Holland, Belgium and France in about 6 weeks, they grabbed 3 countries in 6 fucking weeks and put 300,000 plus British and French on the run across the waters of the english channel to save their asses. nobody fought the germans with courage. Now the whole thing changed when the germans fucked with the Russians, barbarossa was the beginning of the end of Hitler, everything that Hitler and the germans had conquered in the two previous years collapsed like a house of cards when they dared to fuck with the Russians.

@maxhouse2409

2 жыл бұрын

When the Germans commenced Barbarossa, it gave hope to resistance groups in already occupied areas that Germany COULD lose the war.

The biggest problem the Germans faced was the quality of the so called roads. Apart from two or three tarmac roads the rest were merely dirt tracks which turned to gluey swamps after heavy rains. A German general said had the quality of roads similar to the ones in France the Wehrmacht would have finished the job within the stipulated time.

Kinda late to comment but, I have to disagree, I this was one of the biggest reasons why they failed, however, I don't blame it on the Germans being overconfident or anything like that, they were in a race against time, from the production side of things, the German economy couldn't last much longer, their fuel reserves were depleted and there was the threat of the United States joining the war, they had to be fast

Guderian was making so much progress that he thought they could be in Moscow in October. Instead Hitler got pissed because Army Group South was held to a standstill around Kiev and ordered Guderian to turn around and march South to help. Guderian was so upset at this that he flew back to Germany to plead his case to Hitler to keep driving on Moscow. The little corporal could not be dissuaded and the rest is history. Mannstein blamed the failure of Barbarossa on this event in his book.

The big mistake was to divert PZ Group 3 north towards Leningrad and PZ Group 2 south top encircle Kiev, the latter move totally unnecessary

@tancreddehauteville764

Жыл бұрын

I disagree - capturing Kiev was essential to avoid an exposed southern flank.

@christianermecke9941

Жыл бұрын

@@tancreddehauteville764 I believe the Russians would have had to withdraw from the Kiev sector anyway if the Germans had attacked eastward, instead of going South. Furthermore, at that time, the Russian counter-attacked, even at a larger scale, had been repulsed by the Germans with relative ease, therefore Hitler's major reason was economy-based.

According to Degrelle the mud is what saved Stalin here. It stopped the German advance almost overnight.

... which was also the Most important Crossroads of railway and roads, would have fallen into German hands, as Well as the vast concentration of industry there. Stalin would then have been forced to withdraw from the Ukraine anyway in order to refill His front line further north. This finally would have given the Germans the advantage of fighting from winter 41/42 on the interior line, making ist much easier Form Thema Tod counter any Russian offensives.

The biggest mistake was they forgot to divide distance by time and calculate the average daily speed to reach Moskow

The Germans bit off more than they could chew.

The main objective was the oil fields, at this time Germany had between 9-18 months of total oil reserves.

Very little people knew but A.H. didn't have interest in taking Moscow he wanted more to capture Leningrad and his main objective and plan for Barbarosa in 1941 was to capture the Caucases but his generals insistet in capturing Moscow and continuous with the main central attack. General Zhukov and soviot high command said after the war that A.H. stretegy in 1941 was the right one comparing it with his general stretegies and they were very afraid of the fact that the germans could take their oils.

If they had estimated the reserve levels of the red army they definitely would not have attacked

@maxhouse2409

2 жыл бұрын

The Germans also did a crappy job of recruiting collaborators.

@jeffreyval9665

Жыл бұрын

Hitler needed Russia. He would of attacked no matter what. He knew Stalin would eventually attack him and giving him more and more time wasn't a good idea at the time. He knew he had to take Russia within a few months. He took the risk and failed. It happens.

@sandrabrearton5781

Жыл бұрын

@@maxhouse2409 Yes at their peril . The ukrainians would have been very helpful if Treated properly.

@aburoach9268

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffreyval9665 That's not really True / the USSR would stand absolutely no chance against a Defensive Germany from the start, looking at their performance in Finland / Germany would not even need 3.8 million troops, Just 2.5 million would've been enough to secure the eastern front line and the Red army would break it's own spine in attempt / on top of that with no war in the East (since Stalin will need some time before he attacks Germany), the German wunderwaffe program would sky rocket at an unmatched speed and they might've even developed plenty of wunderwaffe, along with nukes by the Time the USSR is ready to invade in the Meantime, 1 million german troops could've been sent to africa to conquer Britisch oil without much difficulty Waiting and not Attacking Stalin would most likely have won the war for Hitler

We forget how much the German experience with Russia in WW1 formed their opinions of the war with USSR. Every time they encircled a Soviet army, they thought it was another Tannenberg and the war was essentially over, you read it in the letters and memoirs. They'd planned a quick campaign and when it didn't pan out, they were hosed.

Great book but it is a shame that it is only in Spanish. When it is translated I will read. Basically the Germans suffered from victory disease just like the Japanese. The only difference the Germans might have won in the east.

The German army advanced at the same speed of napoleon…. Not faster than the Roman army

@maxhouse2409

2 жыл бұрын

Like Napoleon, the Germans found out that the Russians were "madmen that burnt their own cities". Both of them lost out to General Winter.

@aburoach9268

Жыл бұрын

"Not faster than the Roman Army" / what are you smoking ?? trucks and motorcycles will outspeed any Roman marching speed + the german infantry did not wear armor

The Germans massively underestimated the Red Army in its sure size,equipment and resourcefulness. I can’t help but think about the 40 “crack” divisions of well armed and equipped Siberians in the East that counterattacked in the winter of 41 and 42 which decimated the Germans advancing on Moscow and literally saved Mother Russia and gave the Red Army the confidence they needed to fight back against what initially looked like a hopeless situation.

every 500Km the Germans put on their M2,and 3, (which is what they went into the USSR with, very few M4's and they all short bar with no added frontal armor) the tanks needed a total overhaul. The M4 needed every 400km and the M5's & 6's every 300 Km. This meant that to get form their starting point in Poland to Moscow they had to over haul every tank they began with that survived to do so at least 4 times if not 5 or 6. They didnt have the support troops to do this and this is why the lost the war and no other reason. There is only three things that will win a war Logistics. Logistics. Logistics. If u dont have support ppl u dont have an army. All u have is a bunch of guys with very expensive clubs and big iron boxes to hid in. Yes that is what a tank is if it is not taken care of right. At anyone time the German army had at least 1/3 its tanks out of action do to miniatous. With another 1 out of 6 in for repair of battle damage. Many of the battle damaged were canalized to meantime the others. The USSR on the other hand up until 1943 didnt worry about battle damage or how long a tank had run for there tanks were meant to run 1000Km before minor overhaul and 1500 km before major. until and even after Jan '43 not many tanks made it to their first minor overhaul date for they had been destroyed. USSR could make tanks faster then Germans could take them out. Now when the USA got in the war its man were pick for knowing how to drive and even how to drive a tracked vehicle . Also many of the USA men knew something about an engine and could do small repairs on their own. Where as the USSR & Germany had few of these USSR more so then Germany. The Brits had some butnot as many once again as USA.

@craigclemens986

2 жыл бұрын

Nonsense, on many levels. Soviet tanks broke down more often than German tanks.

@arndhauk7365

11 ай бұрын

Correct ☝️ You are an expert 🚀 My granddad was in 🇷🇺, captured in 1944 I 🇺🇦, but survived + returned to 🇩🇪 in 1950. He always told me about the bullshit of motorized units in the German Wehrmacht. Only the fighting groups (tanks, motorized divisions) had motorized vehicles. All the logistics was based on horses 😂 And as you said: All offensive operations are based on logistics. The media tell us complete bullshit about German superiority in weapons. Even in tanks the Allied were far superior (T34 compared to Panzers III, IV). The only superiority the Germans had was the fighting efficiency ☝️ And the huge initial successes in the first battles (Kiev, Smolensj) with millions of Russian captured soldiers were due to the offensive position Stalin had ☝️ He wanted to strike first but Hitler + the German intelligence found out. Nevertheless, without logistics it was impossible to beat 🇷🇺 at that time based on the German technical equipment 🙋

The mark 4 panzers got the job done in Poland and france but had no chance against russian armour

Supplies and support. Germany did not have sufficient fuel, and often lacked other nearly as important, supplies in sufficient quantities as well. While Germany did stockpile a lot of material for Barbarossa, it wasnt enough. The fuel supply though, is the most important one, and there was no over-coming this problem. When winter set in for example, the Germany army had little or no winter oil or gas line anti-freeze for the machinery. Tanks had to run over-night or else they would be impossible to start in the mornings, which of course, made an already bad fuel problem, al the worse. At the end of the day, the biggest mistake of Barbarossa, was Barbarossa. The Germans should have focusd all their efforts on crushing zionist England for good and poured all of its energy in securing both the Mediterranean and its western front from the British. The uK didnt need to be invaded, but, the UK had no fuel of its own, just like Japan and that weakness should have been exploited to the fullest.

Army Group Center should not have turned south until after Moscow was taken. Then in the north and south the Russians would have had to fight on reverse fronts. And its true the German army only had so many offensives in them before they were worn down. Another reason to wait before turning south.

فضل هتلر فون مانشتاين على باقي الجنرالات لانه يضع الخطه باسوب بسيط وتيصب الهدف بدقه وبطريقه تجعل الجميع يتطلعون لفعل ذالك مهما كانت تحمل في طياتها من تععقيدات

Eric von Manstein claims in his book that he knew that the war was lost when Hitler attacked Russia, as they hadn't men or equipment to do it.

I like how you think you can explain Barbarossa in 6minutes

Just like the boardgame, RISK. 😅

Crazy today a lot of people upset over Russia in Ukraine. So complicated

I agree with the analysis here. If army group central has simply marched forward their southern flank would have been exposed and this could have disrupted the offensive against Moscow. It is clear that Germany's plans were too ambitious given the land area and resources of the Soviet Union. The largest mistake the Germans made was their underestimation of Soviet war resources and the output of the Soviet economy. They compounded this mistake by waiting until 1944 to go to a full war economy in Germany. Stalin had put out peace feelers in 1942 and was willing to give up large swaths of Western territory to buy peace. Had the Germans realized their economic inferiority to their enemies they could have gotten away with a victory (not absolute, but very advantageous to Germany). This would have freed up German armies to employ in North Africa and the Middle East where Germany could have secured much needed oil resources. There is little excuse for not seizing the opportunity to make peace with Stalin in 1942 since it was already clear that German assessments of the Soviet economy and war production were grossly underestimated.

Well if the germans had ended offensive operations before winter to replenish that would have enabled the soviets to do the same and by that time the soviets where producing far more tanks, airplanes and guns than the germans. Not to mention its advantage in manpower. I think the soviets would have won no matterwhst the germans did.

Starting it was the biggest mistake

The biggest mistake of operation Barbarossa was the fact that it was undertaken at all!

@mikeyp5929

Жыл бұрын

preemptive strike. the wehrmacht wasn even war ready. under equipped and mostly horse drawn. The quick advance into the soviet union and the amount of POWs taken would not have been possible if the red army had not been ready for the invasion of western europe.

@JDDC-tq7qm

Жыл бұрын

Facts

The key ideas of this video are very interesting. As Barbarossa developed, Manstein's key philosophies were : 1) Logistics and supply 2) Fluidity of territory, and 3) Rest your troops. By setting the operational tempo, he believed he could attack where and when the Russians least expected, then alternate with the creation of defensive positions, on which he hoped to 'bleed' the numerical advantage of the Russians when they attacked. Hitler in contrast, clung to territory once it was taken. Manstein was always in a difficult position between Hitler (who favoured him), and Halder and other senior Nazis (who opposed him), hence his dismissal late in the war. Guderian, Model, Rundstedt and Manstein were some of the most visionary planners amongst all of the Wehrmacht army generals during WWII.

So it was ..the generals who gambled their gains...

4:13 The legend of German air superiority again. Fact is that the Western allies had way more planes available in May 1940, but hesitated to use them, like the French did, or - after the Netherlands and Belgium weren't obstacles any more - preferred to unleash their long-planned area bombing campaign over German cities, like the RAF did - that's all.

For me, the biggest mistake was in 1942. The offensive in the south was never going to be decisive; the Germans needed to attack Moscow and surround it. Moscow was the railway hub and its capture would have made it very difficult for the red army to move forces around over the entire front. Essentially, though, the Germans offered nothing but slavery to the Soviet peoples - if the Nazi regime won the war the fate of the Soviet peoples would be slavery or expulsion to Siberia. Tens of millions would be expelled from the big cities and forced to the east, with many probably dying as a result. The ones who remained would be peasant labourers, surviving on little and forced to work on enormous farms taken over by German overlords. Hardly surprising that Soviet soldiers fought to the death.

Hitler realized to little to late that Stalin prepared to attack the whole Europe in June or July 1941. He made an preemptive strike, in hope to save Germany, and made some crucial mistakes on the way.

@jeffreyval9665

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No Stalin wanted to stall until 1943 to attack. He wasn't even close to being ready in 41. He still wasn't even sure if Japan was gonna try and invade. He only found out when Germany was outside of Moscow. All the reserves that fought in Moscow came from that front.

@mstash5

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@@jeffreyval9665 Red Army was pressed into offensive formations in spring of '41. That's why the initial weeks of Barbarossa were so effective. Post-war intelligence reports were uncovered proving that Stalin was preparing to attack - a book was published about it, written and documented by some Russian after the USSR collapsed. Hitler knew...

@jeffreyval9665

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@@mstash5 I don't know what book you read but all intelligence reports and even Stalin himself wanted desperately to delay the war until 43. He didn't think Hitler would dare attack until he had England under control. He thought the Germans were thinking they needed 4 years to be fully prepared for a war while he said 4 years was more than enough time and they only needed 2 years at the most. Stalin had very obsolete air defenses and planes on his western front, second rate troops and leadership also. He was actually more concerned with an invasion by Japan in 41 than he was with Germany. He was expecting Hitler to act rational and not start a war on 2 fronts. Hitler really didn't consider England a threat and thought a Soviet defeat would make England realize their own defeat.

It is not pronounced as archangel, but like arkangel.

All they needed to have b _ _ _ _ to take out little 'stash one?

There was insufficient fuel and other critical resources for war past the end of 1941. Logistic issues made effective resupply of German armies deep in the U.S.S.R. impossible. These facts were recognized by October, 1941, making military victory impossible, and should have been recognized much earlier. The whole "plan" depended on Soviet resistance collapsing rapidly. "Victory Disease." So in Spring, 1942, they made it worse when it was obvious that the Soviets would fight on. . Incompetence.

In a nutshell the Soviet Union was a colossus whereas France was a minow. The Germans were far too overconfident!

I’m no military tactician but to me the main goal of the German military during Operation Barbarossa should have been to capture Moscow and link up with the Finns first. Starting the invasion in late June was a mistake so if anything Hitler & his generals should have adjusted the invasion. Concentrate most of the panzer divisions & mechanized troops in the Northern & Central armies. Pushing straight towards Leningrad & Moscow before winter sets in. The supply units of the army should have started sending out winter gear to the front troops at the end of August when they realized that they haven’t captured Moscow and the Soviets Haden’s capitulated after2 continuous months of combat.

The biggest mistake was not eliminating england from the war, whom ended up giving intercepted german battle plans to the soviets. The soviets knew when an attack was coming, sometimes down to the finest detail, and they still barely held on. Thats how good the germans were.

@samherrick8294

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@@coloradoing9172 I think youre confused as to who was doing a "mass terror bombing campaign". That would be what the british and americans wickedly did to germany. As for the air battle between the luftwaffe and RAF, that was meant to secure air superiority for operation sea lion, the invasion of england, apparently youre not familiar with it. Hitler being so full of respect for england, never really wanted to do it. After the air battle failed, he shelved sealion and turned to deal with the soviet union before it could carry out its planned invasion of western europe. England was left to work behind the scenes against germany, and later be the launching pad for the western front.

But AH lead the Master Race, with his armies he could storm the heavens...too bad on the way his men were grind up to mincemeat

@tancreddehauteville764

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They were no 'master race', or at any rate no more masters than the Slavs.

@vincentkosik403

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@@tancreddehauteville764 I saw a movie made in 1980 about some German scientists converting coal to oil... One comment in it was...losing the war to people that didn't know how to use flush toilets! Goes to show being smart doesn't mean being superior

@JDDC-tq7qm

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Slavs are better than the Nazis

@tancreddehauteville764

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The 'master race' idea was just propaganda to motivate the Germans into fighting. Hitler himself was much less of a racist than most people take him for. He knew very well that Germans were not a pure race.

All these historians in the comment section

They spent too much money on snazzy uniforms and oompa bands.

Barbarossa was a mistake itself!

HItler felt obliged to rescue his pal Mussolini in Yugoslavia and Greece in the spring of 1941. This cost the Germans several weeks. Had they launched Barbarossa in early May (after the frost had dissapated), it would have been (as one participant told me) "nonstop to Moscow.

The fact that ivan doesn't like to discuss losses , should let you know the Germans did a good job .

@maxhouse2409

2 жыл бұрын

Russia's population is less now (~145,000,000) than it was prior to Barbarossa (~190,000,000). The men that were born in 1923 became 18 y/o in 1941. It is estimated that 80% of those men did not survive the war.

@JDDC-tq7qm

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@@maxhouse2409 Russia's population is only like that because of wars

@maximkretsch7134

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​@@maxhouse2409Prior to Barbarossa it was the population of the Soviet Union, not only that of Russia.

@maxhouse2409

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@@maximkretsch7134 True, at that point Ukraine had been forcibly absorbed into the Soviet Union.

If japan invade soviet from south the objective to find raw resource and pull out from china,the outcome will be different and i think adm yamamoto as an Japan Prime Minister can negotiating and made a pact to US to support japan invade Soviet and give them cheap raw resource and helping remove soviets and communist treat from global power.....

Launched 6 to 8 weeks to late ,

The one mistake Germany made that lost them the war was at the beginning. Hitler asked Admiral Karl Donitz (Commander of the U-Boat fleet) how many submarines he needed to starve Britain out of the war. Donitz told Hitler he needed 300 U-boats. At the start of the war in the west, Germany had approx. 27 operational U-Boats. This is why Donitz invented the Wolf-pack strategy, since not having enough ships to blockade Britain, he would try and destroy as many ships in convoys as he could, which almost worked. Had Donitz been given the 300 subs and starving Britain to surrender, Germany would have had the following advantages: 1. It would end any concern of America entering the war against Germany. 2. Germany would have their air force at full power (The losses in the Battle of Britain were costly) 3. Germany would have controlled over Britain's quality fleet, air power, and troops, increasing their forces even more. 4. Germany would have all of the Mediterranean Sea and north Africa to move through and access to endless supply of oil. All of this would mean that the war against Russia would have ended quickly, given Germany the victory in the war.

LOL. So they just need a little rest bro? Head down to the pub and wait for winter to blow over.

Remember USSR joined the axis powers in 1939 and took nearly half of Polland. Both countries were grubs!

Haste makes waste...that's too bad

The French did not lose because their military doctrine was obsolete (the standard excuse, denoting impossible senility among smart French generals) but because the French General Staff was a pro-Nazi Fifth column. From Marshall Petain down to the last Vichy French village mayor, ex-junior Reserve officer in the French Army (the source of French strategic confusion and Nazi tactical omniscience), all of them were debriefed in Nazi POW camps to assume their Vichy post with Nazi approval. The biggest mistake the Germans made during Barbarossa was starting it. The biggest mistake the Nazis made was starting WWII. Truly honorable Heer officers would have resigned en mass and told the Nazis where to shove their lebensraum. With but few undocumented exceptions disposed of quietly, all the rest were sellout yes-men unfit to wear red piping.

Hitler himself spoke with contempt for the German Army and nation in the end. He said if he had Greek soldiers and English diplomats he would have won the war in Russia. That says it all..

@spartanconscience2693

11 ай бұрын

@@rubenoteiza9261 Hitlers admiration was hollow. Greece suffered the worst of all the occupied nations compared to its population.

@spartanconscience2693

11 ай бұрын

@@rubenoteiza9261 In relation to their total populations, Greece suffered the heaviest civilian losses of close to a million by our figures. We cannot understand why many would suggest even less. They were not there.

Yes, HUBRIS

They started too late. The Germans were delayed by the action in Greece and had to postpone the start date from May 1st to June 22nd. Those 7 weeks were crucial and would have at least given the Germans a chance to take Moscow before winter. Even this might not have been enough though as the Russian were clearly prepared to continue the war.

@rockbottom8502

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On the contrary, many historians claim that the spring rains that occurred in April and May of 1941 in the USSR would have caused the Germans to have been bogged down in the swampy terrain.

@permindersidhu1280

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That's not true. After the worst winter in 140 years the ground was too saturated to start early. In fact there was every chance of a further delay as the measuring yardstick for the water table became barely acceptable for operations on 20th of June. Any further rain would have made it impossible to launch on 22nd of June

Germany should have Invaded Russia in May 1942, with 9 Army's, 5 Panzer Grouppen (With 184 Divisions:" Thats 118 Infantry, 24 Panzer, 12 Motorized Rifle, 12 Security, 4 Mountain, 4 Light, 1 Parachute Divisions) and 4 Air - Army's (6500 War Playns). As these Forces were assembling in Eastern Poland, in February 1941, they should of taken Spane, Marocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Malta from Southern France. Then in August 1941, take Egypt, Sinai and Jordan from Egypt. And in August 1941, take Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine and Iraq from North Easter Greece. Securing the Middle East Oil. Giving Germany the Oil she needed. Using the 10th Army in Southern France, the 12th Army in Eastern Libya and the 6th, 8th Army's and 6Th Panzer Grouppen in North Eastern Greece. Thats 4 Army's and 1 Panzer Grouppen. Then in 6 months assembled a New Army in Southern Egypt and East Iraq. So in February 1942, take A) Sudan, Ethiopia, Erythrea, Somalia and Kenia. B) Persia. Using A) The 1St Army B) The 3Rd, 5Th Army and the 7 Th Panzer Grouppen. Facing Russia was the 2nd, 4tTh, 7Th, 9Th, 11th, 13Th, 15Th, 17Th, 18Th Army's and 1St, 2nd, 3rd, 4Th ,5Th Panzer Grouppen. Plus 4 Air Army (7000 War Playns). Japan would Attack the USA( Perl Harbour) in Dec. 1942. Making 4 Raids and finish off the US Pacific Fleet there. Then land 12500 men and take the Island. If all the Above happened, things would of been different for the Germans. As for France. Only 2 Army's would be positioned in Northern France. The 16Th, 19Th Army's and 8 Panzer Grouppen.

Barbarrossa was doomed from start. Gen Paulus, same Paulus that led the 6th Army to Stalingrad, planned and conducted war games and he told Hitler it would fail, there was no way to win. Nothing to do with the German army, all to do with logistics.