The real "end game" comes with a *tombstone* , so maybe it's the journey along the way that matters.

@connorduke4619

4 ай бұрын

And even that tombstone s unable to prevent reincarnation though. ;)

@erics.4113

4 ай бұрын

I've had countless systems and setups that I could be happy with forever, but who wants to be happy? 😢

@carlitomelon4610

4 ай бұрын

Jay just reviewed a set of granite OB speakers... They'd make very apropos tombstones 🎵🎶🪦🎶🎵 (That's my cue to play Mahler's 2nd "resurrection" symphony this morning ;-)

@walterpen371

4 ай бұрын

​@@carlitomelon4610They're probably MACO from Toronto.

@Coneman3

3 ай бұрын

Tombstones are heavy, so good for absorbing vibrations

Many years ago, I was lucky enough to get a kitchen tour in one of the best restaurants in the world. There was a sign on the wall that read “greatness is the sum of many small things done well.” I think this is true of hifi as well. Great video as usual!

@DaveJohnsonOttawa

4 ай бұрын

OK, you caught me, on the shitter watching your video. Refreshing attitude!

Everything is important... Everything....

@Coneman3

4 ай бұрын

Yes it’s about purity of the signal. Anything can negatively affect it.

@vinylrules4838

3 ай бұрын

What most people don't realize, the room is just as important, if not more important than the equipment.

This audio channel is the best I found, the synergy and system building insights are awesome, miles beyond the endless single object glorification videos.

The room??? I recently had my local retailer send my 30 year old amp back to the manufacturer to be refurbished. When they phoned me to advise my amp was ready for collection they persuaded me to audition the 2 new amps, higher up in the manufacturer’s range. I agreed providing it was a blind audition. 2 days later I found myself sitting in the retailer’s listening room armed with a bag of CDs and vinyl records. Their CD transport was different to mine. As was their turntable, their preamp, their speakers, their interconnects and cables. Their listening room was vastly different to mine. Theirs was 5 times larger. Most strikingly their room height was 22 feet, my room height was 8 feet. Theser room was carpeted and sparsely furnished. My room has hard wood flooring and is densely furnished as it is also my family lounge. Their room had small windows with heavy duty curtains. My room has one long wall as end to end and floor to ceiling window, with vertical blinds. You get the picture. The only commonality was the same DAC as me and amp. They put amp A on and started playing my vinyl copy of white ladder by David Grey. Literally, within a couple of seconds, I knew beyond any shadow of a doubt, I was listening to my 30 year old amp. Listening to a selection of tracks from other vinyl and CD sources, only served to confirm my original diagnosis! I then listened to amp B and amp C. They were presented, as it transpires in order of price, as I also correctly diagnosed. Amp B, twice the retail price of my amp was virtually indistinguishable from my amp until they swapped the speakers for a more difficult to drive pair. Amp B displayed tighter bass control. With so many variants, the room being by far the biggest variant. How was I able to so easily identify my amp? Surely the room would have clouded the sonic characteristics sufficiently as to make that identification, impossible. It is my belief, drawn on years of experience, experimentation, trial and error, blood sweat and tears and much hard earned cash, that providing your room’s RT60 level is within acceptable limits, the more accurate musicale reproduction provided by your gear, the less need there is for room treatment. I’m a firm believer that room acoustic solutions are often a costly manufactured cure for trivial or non existent issues and I’m waiting for some to unequivocally, prove me wrong. When, back in the early 80s I started my hifi journey, it was impressed upon me that the big money should go on source equipment. Crap in, crap out! For years I adhered to this hypothesis. Until I made an impulse purchase of a pair of speakers reduced to half price. The difference they made was far greater than any source components had made. So I concluded that the big money should go on speakers. Around this time, I joined the internet and KZread hifi community, only to find that many, had arrived at the same conclusion. Now, many years later, the buzz word appears to be room acoustics. I wonder what the next 10 years will manifest? Room temperature? Humidity level? Atmospheric pressure? Wind direction? Inter relationship of the planets? Whether the tide is coming In or out? Air quality and pollution levels? Etc. LOL!!!

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

Remove all furniture in your room, including carpets, leave a metal chair in your sweet spot. Listen to your system…

@howardskeivys4184

4 ай бұрын

@@hificave the point I was trying to make is:- if you are fortunate enough to have a dedicated listening room? Furnished only with your hifi gear and listening chair. Then chances are, acoustic treatment may benefit your listening experience. But for me and I suspect many in the same position as ne, whose hifi has to fight for it’s right to be, in our family lounge the soft furnishings, carpets, rugs, cushions, sofas Etc. Are likely sufficient to bring the RT60 levels well within acceptable limits and negate the necessity for further acoustic treatment!

Thomas just got his mind blown. Great moment in any audiophile’s journey. It’s the room and everything that contributes to the blown mind.

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

I wish I had a camera on my face to catch my surprise to his surprise. He might come back and do a full video on it. If he does I cant wait to see what conclusions he will reach. Cause you saw his mind bounce around with a few concepts to try and identify a “secret” then quickly he realized: no wait, there is a lot going on here… what? But.. this is… huh? Shiiiit!! Lol He felt a degree of realism he rarely heard before, BUT, like I mention, it just means the strengths I have been pushing in my rig lined up with his flavour preferences for some genres. The sopra 2 system he mentions, probably does various things much better, and both results are good just different.

LOL - you are really making me smile. I guess we are twins because I am talking about exactly the same things you do but in German ;-) I 100% agree with your triangle when we are talking about HiFi or High End whatever you want to call it, but the moment we are talking about music, everything changes. Then it is the source that matters most and the room has almost no influence at all (if the bass is not completely resonating of course) A friend has a super duper high end system, he likes American gear so he has the biggest Maggie, with the 2nd greatest McIntosh Monos, big McIntosh Preamp, Verdier Turntable, EMT Tonearm and SPU-A, and of course he has this giant power conditioner from shuni-something and 10k power cords, the whole 12-yards. And by HiFi standards his system as you might guess sounds phenomenal. He has a separate listening room and it is fully treated of course. You know what we are discussing atm? If he should buy 30k power cords or start from scratch. And he says when it comes to listening music sometimes his radio in the kitchen or his car stereo is more impactful than his giant stereo setup. I am sure you can guess what my advice is. Get a cheap KT-88 single ended ChiFi amp for 400 bucks and I will lend you my 2-way horn speaker (similar to JBLs famous 4425 but DIY) and then you need to use this for at least the next 6 month to make a shift from HiFi to music and then we can start to figure out what single ended amp and what speaker design is for you. But in terms of HiFi absolutely everything will get worse and you must be prepared for it, that's why you need the time to listen to the new setup. And the really big downer is that in the end you can not really buy it, you need to build it, on the plus side you will never think about a 10grand cable again, you might think about another resistor for $2.50

I could not agree more with your assessment regarding impact of which components and the room have. 100. Nailed it.

Nice video. I know a lot of work went into it. Well done. I subscribed. Thanks!

Quality of the recording is probably the most important. That varies widely, even with "audiophile" recordings. The speaker/room interface would be next. Once you settle on the flavor/type of the speaker, which varies widely, you can then choose an amp that will drive them properly.

@josefserf1926

4 ай бұрын

Good advice in a complicated field.

Aahhh. It’s so complicated I don’t even want to listen to music now. Just kidding. Great video, once again.

Great video- love the way you explained it!

I've just stumbled into to this hifi channel. Subscribed straight away. Like your style.

Very helpful. Thank you.

Hello Loïc. Like you, the difficulty of this passion for music reproduction at home is to obtain the perfect synergy of all the elements, and in this synergy, everything counts. I call it the mayonnaise effect (yes, I'm French, so ...). You can look for the best components to make a sauce, but all you get is a mixture of egg yolk, mustard and olive oil. I've just found this out again with my new Musical Paradise DAC. The musical result is very good. I had ordered an inexpensive AHP fuse for my DAC. It was broken in on the Musical Paradise for 4 days. Then I changed my mind and ordered an SR Purple which took the place of the AHP fuse. It took a total of 16 days to break-in the dac (for the output capacitors, Miflex claims 1000 hours of break-in!!). After two or three days of listening, I thought I'd use the unused AHP fuse ($25) with my FEZZ audio Mira Ceti SE 300B amplifier. I wasn't expecting much. And the mayonnaise effect happened! The impression of suddenly having a system twice as expensive. It's just the pinch of spice that was missing from a very good dish, so that it becomes just exceptional and the simple egg, oil and mustard mixture turns into mayonnaise. And I have to say, in 45 years this has only happened twice. And it's just like the guy who wins the lottery, a happy accident. Finding it on your own is extremely difficult. It takes a hell of a lot of luck. Thanks for your videos, which I love :)

Great video! It's helpful to have things broken down in such a clear manner.

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

Glad you like it! it’s hard to cover all angles in a simple diagram.

Nice explanation and scheme.

I agree with your inverted audio pyramid diagram thingy. Nice job. Looking forward to the follow up

After hearing a well tuned DEQX pre/procsser the quest was over for me.

Very exciting stuff; love your passion and storytelling. A class. I have one question: what is the effect placing the driver recessed into the baffle with that (about 1 inch chamfer?) ?

The symbiance of all the gear is the key…nothing else. And it must fit only your own hearing preferences…not your neighbors.

I agree with you Loic 100%...it's all important...you summed it up early in one word... synergy...makes sense...Hifi rigs are all connected from the wall outlet to the speaker drivers

It’s at the 06:30 minute mark that the whole story comes unstuck. If you listen to audiophile vocal material all the time then you’ve lost sight of the bigger picture. A hi-fi system should be a vehicle into the wonderful world of music, in all its forms an genres. Audiophile vocal recordings are for gearphiles who need to listen to that particular genre to get their listening to the equipment fix.

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

Everyone has their own flavour of what they enjoy in music. The point is, his end game, my end game, your end game are specific to ourselves. I find it interesting that you would say vocal recordings where for gearphiles. Let me ask, do You think there is an artist out there in any genre that writes, records and performs for audiophile gearheads?

@baronvonaux8294

4 ай бұрын

@@hificave I think vocal recordings are fine, although a bit dull. But my point is when people listen to that type of music all the time as Thomas said he does it’s become not about listening to music, but about listening to the equipment. Yes some artists and producers do produce music specifically for the audiophile market. Let me ask you a question, do you ever select music because of the way it brings out ‘the best of your system’ rather than what you actually want to listen to?

@carlitomelon4610

4 ай бұрын

Check out Loic's guitar collection. He's tuned a room and system to his small ensemble tastes. Nothing wrong with that. Every setup has its limitations!

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

@@baronvonaux8294 in the early years yes. now I pushed towards maxing out strengths of my system so the music I love sounds awesome.

@HifiCave I'm both a drummer/percussionist and saxophonist, so Yuri Honing Trio's ''Walking On The Moon'' is one of my ''Go-To'' demo & system evaluation tracks. Also Jen Chapin's ''You Haven't Done Nothin' (Stevie Wonder cover)''. But you're right, complex tracks with a lot of dynamic instrumentation going on all at once will make or break a system that is otherwise amazing when playing more stripped-down acoustic music. Large symphony orchestra crescendos, certain piano recordings, and complex popular music mixes (try Tears For Fears ''Woman In Chains'' or the ''Percussion Ensemble'' tracks on the Stockfisch Records' ''Are You Authentic? - AYA - Authentic Audio Check'' SACD) can reveal the weaknesses in any system.

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

Yes sir! Being able to to do large complex tracks does not also mean you that the system will bring out the subtle and fleshed out intimicy of a simple trio and vice versa. It’s like saying the only way to hear music is in a large auditorium or large venue or people who say the only way is in a small club… both are true. Remember the understanding of impacts of hi-fi gear chain doesnt insinuate that it is for achieving good simple trio music, but to help in our analysis to how we can reach whatever end game we want.

First - congratulations to the winner of the best "Paul Giamatti-Audio-KZreadrs-Award". Second - congratulations to position 234 on the list of "wow, the room is key but actually everything is very very important. I heard this for the first time, this is really essential news to me" audio related KZread-videos. Now, I really actually like you and the channel and I blame KZread for people having to put out videos every 15 minutes. Cheers

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

Just curious, did you watch to the end? I dont say room is key, the whole point is understanding basics of impacts. And what makes me Paul Giamati like? ( which I love).

@rulerofrecords1

4 ай бұрын

impacts, layers, synergies, rankings, interdependencies, variations - I'm not arguing with your thesis and conclusions. And as somebody who made every mistake possible more than once I do not pretend to know any better. I just think this is another "remix of a tune I have heard before on KZread. So, as a European I do not know the latest interior trends in the US. But here in the Fatherland we sometimes and with some success make use of something we call "mirror". This and a sometimes similar intonation and "phrasing" for lack of a better word give me a distinct "PG" flavor. And as you noted - this is purely intended as a compliment @@hificave

Great video showing Thomas' reaction. How long ago was this?

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

A few weeks.

I had a particular singer that seemed to be overloading her microphone. It took me months to realize that other singers in the same vocal range seemed to have the same problem. That made me realize it wasn’t the singer, it was a room acoustics problem. Problems with good systems are often not apparent until you have lived with the system for a while. Even then, where the problem originates can be difficult to figure out.

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

Amen!

You're 100% correct!!

Agree - .. The whole room is part of the system.

@walterpen371

4 ай бұрын

The listening room is where you begin the journey. In my case I don't have the proper room. Excuse me while I go and waste more money on lottery tickets.

@psyphonyxaudio

4 ай бұрын

@walterpen371 ...Smart and resourceful people figure it out. I have never won a lottery.. I worked hard for whatever I can to invest into what I love. Forget the lottery... gain some passion.. then you'll achieve anything !

50 years of chasing this i have SPOT ON CONCLUSIONS

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

And I was very hesitant to click on publish, because there are still some clarifications to make on some of my comments.. but there will be part2 and 3. But this whole topic is not a 15 minute video, it’s a 3 day podcast 🤔

@danmichell7516

4 ай бұрын

keeping it stupid simple with these points of reference will save years of disappointment for audiophiles and audio engineers , let the enjoyment begin @@hificave

Over the Green Monsta, and out da park! With the bases loaded!!!😄

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

Lol! Two dogs and two beers sir.

Thank you Loic for the very informative, insightful, and important perspective on system building in revealing typical pitfalls in thinking and approach that we “audiofools” (🤔) unknowingly fall prey to. Your assessment of “system” seems very holistic, informed, and experientially based. It’s appreciated.

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback Mark. Not an easy thing to do in a 15 min video. Hopefully part 2 is even better.

It's crazy how good these drivers can sound. I run mine with a minidsp shd for the crossover between the f15 and w15, and dirac room correction. The room correction made a huge difference in my space (golden ratio but a bit small with minimal room treatment). Have you tried any digital room correction or room eq wizard yet? I love having different rew settings to play with for different types of music. I know some purists hate EQ and room correction, but the results I've experienced have been impressive.

@paulsochinfan

4 ай бұрын

Hi JC, did you put the 2 drivers in one baffle or 2 separate baffles?

@JC-lk3oy

4 ай бұрын

@@paulsochinfan I've done both, but preferred having them together with an F15 on top and a W15 on the bottom. I did them a couple of different ways but found the best bass performance required a wood panel parallel to the floor on the bottom and a small wing on the inner side. I stopped the wings about halfway up as having the wing go all the way to the F15s didn't sound as good. I highly recommend a minidsp for the crossover. You can play with different types and crossover points to see what works best for you. Then, if you want, you can build a passive crossover to those specs. That said, I like the sound I'm getting with my Decware on the F15s and XTZ edge A2-300 on the W15s.

@paulsochinfan

4 ай бұрын

​@@JC-lk3oy that's interesting, thanks for the reply JC. I keep thinking about trying this F15 + W15 combo, but first of all have to get rid of 2 pairs of speakers to make spaces for it. And also pending hificave to test the Maco speaker, he said it's not a normal F15. Btw, I guess you are using the Decware as per amp, what preamp you use to drive the Decware and XTZ? Also, did you use the Dirac room correction?

@JC-lk3oy

4 ай бұрын

@@paulsochinfan I'm using my MiniDSP SHD as my preamp, and yes, I'm using Dirac with fantastic results. The SHD has 4 analog outputs that are independently adjustable for the crossover and have the ability to be adjusted using Room EQ Wizard. Seriously, I can't recommend the SHD enough. It's a really powerful audio tool.

I had a similar moment in the Decware listening room in Peoria, IL. My system will be a good streamer/DAC (Cambridge 851N) + Decware zen amp + open baffle speaker similar to yours ... I'm almost done building my sound absorbing panels ... Getting close to end-game sound in my basement room!

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

Yeah!! Love reading this.

I got my base components and room down and build speakers around those. I try to make my speakers do what i want with the upstream components fixed. Speakers have the biggest impact on the tonality of your system so take that control yourself. The rest gives you the soundstaging and detail in my experience. My little modded A10 SE EL34 amps has great detail and imaging with a simple misical fidelity dac and wiim mini streamer or my cd transport. So I build speakers that sound great with only a hand full of watts and then tune by ear.

@mediascapes2011

4 ай бұрын

Try different pans

My end game cost very little, it's a desktop setup which sounds way better than any of the more expensive full systems I've set up in a lounge. The key was adding a subwoofer (ebay £20) to good quality small desktop speakers (ebay £60), through a class-D amp with bass filter (£100). Sure I could seek bigger & better, but it's good enough for my 58 year old ears.

You looked into my soul with the shitter comment, exactly what I’m doing, kids will be fine for a little bit 😂

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

Hahahahahaha

Speaker radiation ALWAYS had high importance. What's happened in the past 5-10 years, more things were drawn into this "sensitivity study". Power conditioners, outlets, platforms for speakers, de-coupling devices, even room-construction itself. The tweakers were right, they just never had the product development to prove their claims...

For me its not about getting better quality. Like you mine are best in certain genres. I would like to expand on that. With my Quad ESL 57, I am thinking of adding open baffle bass drivers. If that doesn't gell, then I can always use those bass drivers as the start of an open baffle full range project.

it's the chain man!..

I totally agree with you. And that is rare. Question, how are you feeding your streamer copper, fiber optic stock network from provider?

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

My network provider is a fiber righ into my home, and shielded cat6 rj45 to the streamer. Then usb to the reclocker, then AES to dac.

Your videos feels the most natural and human compared to most audio channels, always enjoy your content

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

Wow thank you. I dont want to be an infomercial. I want to have fun, share, and learn, and find ways to experience music that create goosebumps at different levels.

Sometimes i listen to my system while sitting on the shitter, small house blues.

In the photo world there is the term: GAS (gear acquisition syndrome) - Great video !!!!

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

Good term!!!!

Gee, didn't know I was going back to school there! Damn you professor Loic, for making sense with a pie chart! The likes I've not saw in 45 years!

What happened to your Musical Paradise 701 Preamp? Got permanently replaced by the Melody one?

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

Never owned the mp preamp, i was considering keeping it, but the melody came up, and offered 3 outputs for tri-amping, and overall performance being on a different level.

Removal of wifi radiation is a must this distortion penetrates in many devices and even youre central heating at home .

Your ears my friend your ears and your age will have a huge impact on how you hear and what you hear. The ideal surely is getting to as close to the original recording as possible its a never ending quest unless we can go to the studio where the music was originally recorded and play it there.

Speakers are the only component (in audio chain) that can alter the radiation pattern of sound eg open baffle .

The source is important because there is no way to correct a bad source. Room+speakers is the critical part; if it's not right, nothing is right. Electronics have progressed so much the last decades, that every medium to high quality goes beyond what's audible. Electronic distortion should be the last of the worries.

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

Well said Pablo!

The listening room is frequently overlooked in importance. Acoustics is hugely important. I think that's one of the reasons that some are disappointed when they bring home their new speakers from the audio/video store. It happened to me with the a pair of Ohms. I was so disappointed that I sold them within weeks and got something else (ADS 1230s).

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

We can stop at the Hi-Fi shows… And quickly understand that a room can make a system made of Dagostino and Wislons even sound flabby, bloated or even thin or even sound harsh. And move to the next room and it sounds great. But in all impact layers, context is king. There’s no fixed rules, just guidelines to help us stay flexible when trying to understand issues.

@user-xx2hj7xb6b

4 ай бұрын

The listening room is almost like the third speaker in 2-channel audio. @@hificave

Nailed the pyramid. Awesome! Refinement would be the opposite direction. This shows what people really should be investing in first and last. BTW, you forgot cables. The cable guys are coming from you. Cabron!

@hificave

2 күн бұрын

Done on purpose cabron! Cables are component / system specific in my experience. Needs a longer dedicated video. Which most people will hate. 😎

A thousand bucks. What the hell. I know. Shiiiiiiiiiiiit.

I will make this simple, yes 👍

OH, but it looks like you might need a super tweeter though if you rolling off at 12 HZ with you OPEN BAFFLES. 🙂

Was that playing through TS A20?

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

No, melody 211 amp.

Completely agree with your “impact” statement. Where do 90% of audiophiles fail? Highest impact area.🤦‍♂️

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

Yes. The high impact areas can cause a full reset. But most people will keep living with the symptoms and struggle over time to replace components to try and fix it

Nice video and explanations 😊 For END GAME LEVEL PLAY YOU NEED ALL ITEMS MENTIONED but you also need to Have Virtually Perfect Power delivered to each of your individual components that is designed for that individual component.. Dedicated lines, outlets, etc with a basic filtered balanced power strip sells the rest of accomplishments far short of whats possible.

I agree that power filter and power cords - also matter. This was my most recent realization - after decades of me dismissing these as meaningless.

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

When people dismiss it, it’s because there is a limitation somewhere in the system that is negating all the benefits of the power cord, or in some cases the absolute wrong power cord is being used for the gear… or in some other rare cases, the power cord itself is… junk :-)

@NeilBlanchard

4 ай бұрын

@@hificave In my case, I dismissed AC cords and filters because I didn't think they *could/should* make a difference. I recently tried 5 different AC cords vs generic 18AWG - and the two from Pine Tree Audio made significant differences. The other 3 (a "hospital grade" cord, and two specifically sold as audio grade cords from Amazon) made very little if any difference. And of the two from PTA, the slightly lower priced one was significantly better, in my system in my opinion. The Iso-Braid I prefer is ~$70/3 ft; so not nothing, but very reasonable. And the improvements are significant within my system. Resolution, soundstage size and layering ...

I use almost the same chain in my system, tube dac, tube amps for the mids F12, solid state for lows dual 15” per side, all in open baffle , power conditioner, dedicated power line, streamer etc.. In my experience clean power is the most critical, speakers make the biggest difference and everything else in the chain is equally important, not forgetting the room. kzread.info/dash/bejne/mHmAksiEhqfPaKw.htmlfeature=shared

@hificave

25 күн бұрын

Great track!!! Love Christian. Sounds like home to me man! 😎

No argument that all stages are important, but the point about speakers is that their high degree of variability between manufacturers will have the highest potential to ruin an otherwise good system. I would actually place speakers ahead of the room in terms of impact, because good speakers in a bad room sound better to me than bad speakers in a good room. P.S. Why as much as $1000 for 2 full range chassis drivers with wooden baffles and stands? What drivers are they?

@JC-lk3oy

4 ай бұрын

They are Lii Audio F15's ($400 a pair), but I think Loic was also including the W15's ($300 each) he has for low end reinforcement.

I have been trying to find out how any USB reclocker can possibly work. The USB spec only has 4 wires. Positive, Negative, Data +, and Data -. I would like to see any proof of concept on how a device can influence the DAC clock of another device on the USB.

@hificave

Ай бұрын

Why dont you do a proof of concept?

@user-hn8fw6eb2s

Ай бұрын

@@hificave Ok, easy, where's the wire that can clock the remote device ?

The end game of being an audiophile is not being an audiophile any more. And being satisfied.

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

Wow! I am framing that quote in my cave.

I love my open baffle speakers they just suit my preferences. I can add subs if I need a bit of bass impact flavor.

Too much Analytics looses my personal connection to the Music! Total System Synergy including room treatments is the Journey that is usually bound by most peoples Budget! Just Maximize what you have and Enjoy the Music! 💯

Most people Don't as a guest Go to someone's house a tell them your Speakers sound like shit Most wait tell they get in the car. Then tell their mates. Did you hear that shit?

@hificave

Ай бұрын

That just sux on many levels.

Excellence in everything except analog sources, transducers, and room acoustics can be had for modest money. Unless you believe in chasing a "sound" with electronics. I don't believe that that pursuit can be more than marginal. Since I am digital only, I spend money on speakers only. Everything else is a solved commodity if you ween yourself off high-end electronics hype.

@geoffreydebrito7934

4 ай бұрын

It takes knowledge, patience and persistence but I have found that modest money can secure excellent analog sources, transducers and room acoustic treatments. Patience and persistence in a knowledgeable search on the many audio used outlets can secure excellent quality gear in mint to very good condition. Dealer demo sales can be an excellent source of heavily discounted equipment. New equipment can be purchased at significant savings during holiday sales. Room treatments can be things as simple as a rug on the floor, a tapestry hung on a wall and careful arrangement of furniture to achieve a good combination of absorptive/reflective surfaces. It is said that, "necessity is the mother of invention" and when a burning interest in achieving a fine sounding system faces the restriction of a modest income... Then thinking outside the box becomes a requirement :-)

I`m listening to this on a Yamaha receiver. haha

@hificave

3 ай бұрын

Nothing wrong with Yamaha. Love yamaha!

☝🏻The most important link in the chain is the quality of your ears - how well can you hear - that is the first thing that counts.

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

I completely forgot about that

@bruceevans3746

4 ай бұрын

What’s the upgrade cost!

The cave man keeps surprising, this time the ears are missing

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

🦻

@mediascapes2011

4 ай бұрын

Ahh mono, ok@@hificave

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

@@mediascapes2011 👂👂

Why didn't the camera man waive? lol..

@hificave

4 ай бұрын

He’s a bitter prick! Lol

@JC-lk3oy

4 ай бұрын

​@@hificave because he listens to Bose 😉 jk.

@paulsochinfan

4 ай бұрын

Hi caveman, may you kindly share the crossover design?

@n.lyndley.9889

3 ай бұрын

Waive is, indeed, a word. Unfortunately it’s not the correct one here. Wave

The biggest impact are your Ears.