The BIGGEST FURRY DRAMA of the Year

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Today we're talking about the yearly MFF Room Lottery Drama! The MFF Con Staff work very hard to make the biggest convention ever happen every year, and sometimes we might not get everything we want out of the convention, like a main hotel room for example. In this video I discuss some of the concerns brought up every year about MFF being as big as it is, while also looking through some of the memes that furries put together about the convention!
Editor's Note: Please do not take out your anger on the MFF convention staff, it is okay to be frustrated and upset that you didn't get a room in the lottery system. When the convention asks for feedback, that's the best way you can voice your concerns and worries, but do not lash out at the twitter account or any of the convention on staff there. They want to make things work for everyone.
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  • @BetaEtaDelota
    @BetaEtaDelota Жыл бұрын

    Editor's Note: I realize I may have forgotten to include some of the concerns with dealers not getting a room at MFF through the lottery. It is still a valid concern and I believe the convention is still doing everything they can to accommodate everyone properly and fairly. I want it to also be known that it is OKAY to be upset and frustrated with the results of the lottery and in turn not getting the room or accommodations you were looking for this convention. However, it is still NOT OKAY to be lashing out at the MFF twitter account or any convention staff as a result. When the convention asks for feedback, that's the best way you can voice your concerns and worries, but do not lash out at the twitter account or any of the convention on staff there. They want to make things work for everyone. I will be doing a followup video discussing these points at a later date, but I wanted to put this here for the time being! TLDR: It is okay to be frustrated and upset. MFF is still doing the best they can with what they're given. It is NOT OKAY to harass and lash out at the con staff trying. Give them time to fix the problem.

  • @frostfamily5321

    @frostfamily5321

    5 ай бұрын

    So I hope becoming a *volunteer* for MFF does not require an interview, and I remember you said you want to talk about non -furry stuff, there's another fandom for what's called the Backrooms!

  • @quarterlifecrisisstudio4265
    @quarterlifecrisisstudio4265 Жыл бұрын

    Having worked retail for 8 years, hearing people say "I'm never coming here again!" is funny shit.

  • @YoungFlyz644

    @YoungFlyz644

    Жыл бұрын

    I know, like, do you really think I care. If anything I’m glad you’re gone.

  • @DrakeValos

    @DrakeValos

    Жыл бұрын

    Been in it much longer, and completely agree. Was refreshing to hear someone once go “I’d quit coming here, but I get my groceries and other things here too.” Either way, either they’re lying and will be back, or you’ll thankfully never have to deem them again. Quite great~

  • @ProjectXv2
    @ProjectXv2 Жыл бұрын

    Pettiness and Envy has been rampant in this fandom and it’s only getting *worse.* I’ve had people start stuff with me or my friends because I won’t prioritize getting art with them. And I don’t even have 500 subs on YT and just 1,100 followers on Twitter. I’m a *nobody* and I’m already talking to less and less people just to minimize points of needless drama. I can’t even IMAGINE what you deal with, Beta.

  • @Constylations
    @Constylations Жыл бұрын

    "People try to find a valid reason to not like something" This is way too true and it hurts

  • @bookvee
    @bookvee Жыл бұрын

    This explains quite a few things. I hadnt heard about the room lottery before as my focus is generally on smaller conventions, but some time ago, I had some guy randomly start demanding I let them sleep in my room at mff. I didnt even have a room there and told him so. This seemed to confuse and annoy him.

  • @gucciguy3408

    @gucciguy3408

    Жыл бұрын

    Did you tell them that they're insane for thinking that?

  • @bookvee

    @bookvee

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gucciguy3408 There wouldnt be any point. He would still insist he's right. telling him no about anything means youre hiding something.

  • @nekospaw

    @nekospaw

    Жыл бұрын

    oh damn, I've had the same! The fact I have a local UK accent, clearly with my partner, carrying a motorcycle helmet (just a day trip for us, I rode in & she bussed it), we had single day badges - this one guy from scotland was super on my back about room sharing. Like dude, if it wasn't clear enough I'm a local (and thus not needing a room), just, No. I'm not letting a stranger crash with me, Mrs there or not - literally took best part of half an hour of him following us around hounding us because he straight up couldn't believe we didn't have a room despite all the signs, our local group discussing things going on in the city when he wandered up...

  • @bookvee

    @bookvee

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nekospaw The worst part is, not only did I not have a room there, It wasnt even at the con, nor did I ever imply that I was planning to go there or even mention the con in the conversation. We were discussing the very important (and british) subject of which style of phone boxes are the best. (red, classic)

  • @Fulgorariancolt

    @Fulgorariancolt

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bookvee What about (blue, time-traveling)?

  • @Jaspy-Alue_KittyKode
    @Jaspy-Alue_KittyKode Жыл бұрын

    Honestly MFF is probably one of those cons that I wouldn't go to as my first con anyway? I have a lot of anxiety about being out in public in general, let alone surrounded by people- In a tight space. SO me personally, definitely looking for a smaller convention, or a furmeet kind of situation as my first experience. Also to add onto what Beta said, "you don't have to go" remember going to conventions like MFF is a LUXERY. JUST like owning a fursuit. If you don't make it, or can't go- Yea it sucks, but when push comes to shove it shouldn't ruin your whole year, because there's so many other ways to engage with this community.

  • @dataexpunged93N15

    @dataexpunged93N15

    Жыл бұрын

    Not to mention that there's, like you said, bound to be fur meets!! Yeah it it can be sad to not be able to go to something you've been looking forward to, but it's still silly to throw this much of a fit about it.

  • @opalwolf12

    @opalwolf12

    Жыл бұрын

    I’ve never been to mff, but I HAVE been to Anime Midwest and it’s super crowded! I’ve been to a variety of conventions and the ones I have the most fun at are mid size semi local situations, it seems

  • @StrikerV3

    @StrikerV3

    Жыл бұрын

    I get enough interaction with the community on vrc. Idk if i want to deal with them irl 😂 this is coming from a furry lmao

  • @Jaspy-Alue_KittyKode

    @Jaspy-Alue_KittyKode

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lilfirepandakins I appreciate your reply! Sorry if my comment was unclear, my "it's a luxury, so don't fret" stance was more geared towards the people that throw basically an internet riot over it, or blame/harass others who CAN go, things to that level of response! I definitely agree some luxuries (including cons) CAN and ARE big important things to people! S h i t as someone who doesn't have that kind of money/money to waste, I'd be pretty bummed and potentially turned off to scheduling one again if things went wrong. So I totally agree with your point! Also, hope my comment didn't come off harshly LOL. I realize there was no ♡ in which I usually add to indicate my kind of tone :> Tyvm for your in depth reply! And I hope you do get to see your friends again soon ♡ as someone who primarily has close online friends, it's hard not to be able to physically see/interact with them :">

  • @thecherryqueen112
    @thecherryqueen112 Жыл бұрын

    I've never been to a furry con but I do agree

  • @ennardmarelys

    @ennardmarelys

    Жыл бұрын

    same, at least we know what to do if something like this happens, yk?

  • @patrickmcneil5089

    @patrickmcneil5089

    Жыл бұрын

    Same even though I’m not a furry

  • @ennardmarelys

    @ennardmarelys

    Жыл бұрын

    @@patrickmcneil5089 well, to any con. Every fandom has their down sides, you know?

  • @theedge969

    @theedge969

    Жыл бұрын

    I've never been to one and I want to go but I can't BC I have no money and Im in canada

  • @pualdelacruz3188

    @pualdelacruz3188

    Жыл бұрын

    Yea I never been to a furry con ever

  • @strangeego
    @strangeego Жыл бұрын

    Why can't they just make a tournament for a room?? Last one standing gets a room.

  • @kotelypiesely1268
    @kotelypiesely1268 Жыл бұрын

    million dollar idea: buy a cheap wheelbarrow, fit it with some electric drive, and ferry people to the convention grounds from the hotels away

  • @curlybrace314

    @curlybrace314

    Жыл бұрын

    Do you mean a bus? Because they do have those

  • @Kris-wo4pj

    @Kris-wo4pj

    Жыл бұрын

    @@curlybrace314 but they gotta go outside and get a bus pass. either way i dont get this. everytime im at an anime or comic con people are more than willing to go from across town in full cosplay cuz its cheaper than getting a hotel connected to the sky bridge.

  • @jasongrim2027
    @jasongrim2027 Жыл бұрын

    When it comes to walking i have what i call the wanderer perk. Basically i can walk a long ass time without tiring. Like i had to have walked 10+ miles on Halloween with my friends trick or treating its insane. Although if cargo is added depends on weight it can cut the distance down quite a bit. Also i have stupidly long legs so that also probably helps

  • @reyernestambayec1686

    @reyernestambayec1686

    Жыл бұрын

    Probably also have +12 points in Endurance

  • @gucciguy3408

    @gucciguy3408

    Жыл бұрын

    Well the problem is that most furries like most people don't get enough exercise and are probably more than out of shape based on hearing that walking so little of a distance is tiring.

  • @vukkulvar9769

    @vukkulvar9769

    Жыл бұрын

    My legs hurt before I'm tired.

  • @gamermike111

    @gamermike111

    Жыл бұрын

    Going to start using this

  • @maricampari3970
    @maricampari3970 Жыл бұрын

    I wish MFF would choose a more central hotel or used the detached event space across the street cause it's closer to the other hotels in this area. They could also take a sister hotel and expand, I think they're too big for their britches. DragonCon is now in like 4 hotels and you don't get FOMO if you're not at the main one so much cause it still feels like a con atmosphere in your own lobby.

  • @mariobroslakecounty

    @mariobroslakecounty

    Жыл бұрын

    MFF does use the convention center, and has for a few years now. Artists and Dealers are over there, along with some panels.

  • @maricampari3970

    @maricampari3970

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mariobroslakecounty had no idea, I went a while ago.

  • @VestedUTuber

    @VestedUTuber

    Жыл бұрын

    DragonCon uses far more than just four hotels. That's just the panel spaces. Every single hotel in that district participates in specifically providing rooms for attendees and they also get two of the three buildings of the AmericasMart complex in their entirety.

  • @RayRayfrfr
    @RayRayfrfr Жыл бұрын

    6:22 “Will bottom for…” LMAO WHAT

  • @igglypou4908
    @igglypou4908 Жыл бұрын

    As con volunteer for a few years, seeing people being entitled and shitty is so disheartening and making us feel like quitting. thank you for standing up for us! We are using our free time to make these events happen and it is alot of work. every con is super low on staff following covid as well :(

  • Жыл бұрын

    I personally honestly think that doing a lottery for rooms is a bad thing to do. It causes this sort of thing to happen and also makes it more difficult for people to actually join a con. Instead, they should have invested more in other places to buy tickets at (to spread the available sites to buy them from and thus reduce the traffic to the main site, for example). Or maybe just expand to include more rooms with other hotels nearby. And definitely make sure that dealers; performers & staff all have a main hotel room. Those people should NOT be needing to do a raffle to get a room. That is just insane!

  • @Toksyuryel
    @Toksyuryel Жыл бұрын

    For real, if you're THAT desperate for a room don't offer to bottom. Offer to *top*! You'll have people competing over you!

  • @ItzzzBeamo
    @ItzzzBeamo Жыл бұрын

    It's Chicago. This is how Mafia works. (Source. I live here.) Props to the maturity here Beta. Hope it spreads through the MFF attendees like the PathOwOgen.

  • @Techno-Universal
    @Techno-Universal Жыл бұрын

    Also eventually they will probably also have a lottery system for who can attend the convention because of the attendance getting so high to the point that it exceeds the capacity of the convention centre itself!

  • @CylenX6

    @CylenX6

    Жыл бұрын

    Totally understandable. They keep adding more lotteries, we might as well call it Midwest Lottery Fest XD

  • @cornpopandhisbadboys2438
    @cornpopandhisbadboys2438 Жыл бұрын

    My hotel plans are stressful as heck. Closest hotel me and my friends could get is 1.3 miles from the con. I later found someone in main hotel looking for a roommate and I paid for myself but I haven't told my friends yet. I'll probably wind up paying for both spots because I don't want anyone to end up paying more because of me. Next year I'll probably be in the main hotel or bust category because I don't need this stress in my life.

  • @reinathefox6600
    @reinathefox6600 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve never heard of this channel or this drama, but this has now become the most important thing in my life, and I am here for it, and I haven’t even watch the video yet.

  • @InkytheAngstGxd
    @InkytheAngstGxd Жыл бұрын

    as someone who JUST got their fursuit never went to a con and wet public suiting once -- i completely agree

  • @YoungFlyz644

    @YoungFlyz644

    Жыл бұрын

    As someone who has been told repeatedly that I’m a closeted furry -- I don’t have an opinion

  • @waminations
    @waminations Жыл бұрын

    First video I've been able to catch in a while, fun video to come back to! It's also something I'm glad to see discussed because the day this stuff was trending I was so confused on what the heck was going on other than seeing tweets like "MFF bad because no room". Will keep this stuff noted for MFF when me and my group are going in 2023!

  • @gucciguy3408

    @gucciguy3408

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep plan ahead unlike the people complaining and all should be good. Especially since it is a bigger con it is insane to complain about not getting a room at the main hotel.

  • @zeratir7873
    @zeratir7873 Жыл бұрын

    Hotel doesn't have infinite space? Well I am upset! UPSET I SAID!!! Harrumph! I will cut in the shape of a boy over this!

  • @xXDisturbedFoxXx
    @xXDisturbedFoxXx Жыл бұрын

    Honestly, love how you described the drama and your humor about it but also portraying a simple yet non-aggressive message. Its really refreshing to see especially when it comes to furry Drama in general, really want to go to Midwest soon so some of the tips you added was helpful too! Immediate follow! Happy Recommendations brought me here!

  • @curlybrace314
    @curlybrace314 Жыл бұрын

    I strongly encourage people to pick every possible hotel when entering the room block lottery! There are shuttles which go to the more distant con room block hotels, and they seem to have turned down the heat in the long walkway these past few years. Heck, there are hotels connected to the convention center or the heated walkway which aren't part of the con room block. Nany people get rooms in those instead! MFF is absolutely worth attending, even if you weren't in the main hotel. And given how busy those elevators in the main Hotel can get, a satellite hotel might work out more conveniently for you.

  • @BeetleBoozey
    @BeetleBoozey Жыл бұрын

    FINALLY SOMEONE IS TALKING ABOUT THIS!!!!

  • @zealouszombie
    @zealouszombie Жыл бұрын

    Id Rather See People Go "Aw dang didnt get a main room... Anyways see yall at MFF!" That Is A Lot Better

  • @Jake___W
    @Jake___W Жыл бұрын

    Instead of a tent how about a hammock, forcing everyone to duck under you to pass through the sky bridge.

  • @Techno-Universal
    @Techno-Universal Жыл бұрын

    I also believe MFF is now possibly the world’s largest furry convention in terms of attendance numbers! Also people could just stay in hotels all across the city and just take the train to get to and from the convention centre! :)

  • @zenith9395

    @zenith9395

    Жыл бұрын

    And it could let them explore a bit of the great city of Chicago and its surroundings

  • @Techno-Universal

    @Techno-Universal

    Жыл бұрын

    @@zenith9395 Yup! It would also possibly be faster to take the L metro to get to the convention centre from a hotel that’s 5-10 miles away than walking for half an hour through the hot bridges! :)

  • @Lavthefox

    @Lavthefox

    Жыл бұрын

    So MFF has been the largest furcon in the world for years now... And technically it's in Rosemont, not Chicago xD. As for traveling to get to a furcon, exploring a city... It's... Not as magical as it sounds. Having been to MFF for a decade now, there isn't much in the surrounding area that is touristy friendly. Also... Other hotels are charging outrageous prices now for rooms vs the con rate. It isn't as simple as "just book elsewhere" As for people crying and complaining... The solution is simple: go to another con xD That's what my buddies n I are doing - we've all had the pleasure of doing MFF a dozen times... Time to explore the other cons.

  • @zenith9395

    @zenith9395

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Lavthefox I know, I'm a Chicago resident myself and I know the suburbs very well. As for surrounding suburbs with things to do, I'd recommend Schaumburg with Woodfield mall, or just downtown Chicago. There's a ton to do and see in downtown.

  • @petis1477
    @petis1477 Жыл бұрын

    Actully, that's maybe the lightest dramma that i ever seen in this community. I should spend less time on the internet

  • @lucario719
    @lucario719 Жыл бұрын

    1:23 Chicago is the easiest big city to travel to in the united states because it not only has the largest airport, that airport is a hub airport for multiple airlines, so pretty much all airposrt in the us connect to Chicago O'hare airport in one flight.

  • @mikedawolf95
    @mikedawolf95 Жыл бұрын

    The only positive of living in Chicago,the convention center is 30 minutes away from my house

  • @lionclaw9869
    @lionclaw9869 Жыл бұрын

    Maaaan, I am with you. I'm tired of seeing those kinds of posts and all the disrespect towards the staff. This year will be my 6th MFF, and I have NEVER gotten the main hotel (not with lack of trying, mind you), but I still went and enjoyed it quite a lot. This year I went into the lottery, and lo and behold, me and my group actually got a room in the main hotel! That right there debunks any of this stupid "Only catering to popular furs" because I am NOT. But you were right about being prepared as well, I made sure to have a room at the Doubletree (cause that's where we usually go) LONG before the lottery even opened. Like, not getting the main hotel isn't an automatic dealbreaker for the con. I've had to walk the skywalk of hell many many times, and while I may not have to this year, I seriously doubt I'll ever get the main hotel again. So the way I see it is, enjoy it if you get it, but if you don't, you can still massively enjoy yourself. Great video man.

  • @lazertiger
    @lazertiger Жыл бұрын

    I’m surprised that you didn’t mention the group of z00philes who somehow snagged a room this year

  • @fintherebel5000

    @fintherebel5000

    Жыл бұрын

    Probably cause he doesn't want to give them attention?

  • @lazertiger

    @lazertiger

    Жыл бұрын

    @@fintherebel5000 I mean… you can’t just name your video “the BIGGEST FURRY DRAMA of the year” make it about MFF’s issue with distributing hotel rooms, and not mention the vocal group of actual criminals who won the lottery and have been making this situation more uncomfortable for the con organizers and everyone else who have been trying to get rooms. I think that’s at least worth mentioning.

  • @fintherebel5000

    @fintherebel5000

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lazertiger I've been to AnthroCon 4 times in my lifetime, i've only been invited into random peoples/furries rooms twice and both times i've seen Zoo/map flags taped to the walls or sprawled out over beds it's sickening and demoralizing.

  • @BlackClaws
    @BlackClaws Жыл бұрын

    My last furry event was Confurence, like 8 I think. I came out of it married and a budding father with two jilted exes. So, basically, a standard furrycon. Point being, no. nope, never, this is one dragon that wild horses, puppy girls or even protgen could NEVER pull me back in. ;) But have fun y'all. I did laugh my tail off at the 'will bottom for a room' bit. So, tongue firmly in cheek; Will Dominate for tickets, a room, transportation, food and some spending money. Maybe Daddy-Dom can come out 'married' again. *dies. No.

  • @undeaddoeinc.407
    @undeaddoeinc.407 Жыл бұрын

    Because of you I just tweeted "Will top for MFF room"

  • @mysticwolf2842
    @mysticwolf2842 Жыл бұрын

    I have been to SCI-FI cons and some of those were just short of a nightmare, there was a big sci-fi con at the Disneyland hotel in 1986, yeah three days worth I got one of the last rooms and part way through I wound up with another person in the room as well. Still had a lot of fun. I figure a furry con would be about like that, about 6 months before the con put in for a room for that time period that way you already have the room reserved.

  • @rocketvulpex2210
    @rocketvulpex2210 Жыл бұрын

    So this is going to be my first MFF , and my roommate was lucky enough to get main hotel. He kinda explained a bit of the process. it essentially is a first come first serve basis in a way. It boils down to what size room and how many people stay in the room. theres some process that checks all that info, it also depends on how many back ups you listed when applying. We chose two separate hotels outside the main one when the lottery started. Basically if you dont get a room in the main, save reservations for other hotels ahead of time and check on backups in the lottery itself. Even if you dont get main hotel , you still get a room, which is something many people dont plan properly for a head of time. theres a method to the madness, just requires alot of planning.

  • @chris_is_here_oh_no
    @chris_is_here_oh_no Жыл бұрын

    Very well put! Excellent video!

  • @leefletz
    @leefletz Жыл бұрын

    i decided to not get the main hotel, this is my first year ever so idk if that was a horrible choice... but the reason i didnt try for the main one is because i didnt wanna bother waiting for a really crampy elevator. maybe after this year when i see where everything is placed and stuff, ill change my way of thinking for next year

  • @hunterwulfstern6121
    @hunterwulfstern6121 Жыл бұрын

    I personally prefer the idea of a lottery system, giving it's a more fairer way to ensure everyone has an equal chance. Whilst it can be disappointing not getting a hotel onsite and sometimes may need to look around which can be expensive, there is no need to vent that anger on convention staff. After all, as Beta mentioned, convention staff are based on volunteers, people taking time out of there day to help organize a large event which keep in mind can take months. There is a lot of behind the scenes work that goes on which makes it more difficult to whether it be unforeseen circumstances, mistakes etc. After all, just remember, there is always next year and other furry conventions and local meets to attend too. If you been to a convention multiple times, let others have the chance to experience it rather throw a temper tantrum. I always believed in that the fandom is meant to stand for being open and diverse, not the opposite of that. So rather shouting out into the abyss, take a step back, breath. Just take the precautions to make plans for alternative accommodations and understand that not everything will go right as big events can be expected to make mistakes and have the odd oversight. as there is more to it.

  • @notpuzzlepawz
    @notpuzzlepawz Жыл бұрын

    The intro with the screaming bro my phone was at full volume 😭 it’s 3 am

  • @Ronprower
    @Ronprower Жыл бұрын

    I don't understand what the issues really are. I know that furcons are more about socializing and room parties. But anime conventions that have much higher attendance do not have this issue. AWA has around 30K people a year and it has a "main hotel/convention" space like furcons but there's never been a room lottery or any issues. It's still just first come first serve.

  • @petthequeenofmaddness8592

    @petthequeenofmaddness8592

    Жыл бұрын

    I think its going around in a fur suit it's self that is the issue, with a fur suits the issue of over heating breathing difficulty and finding somewhere to sit and carrying all that stuff around as well as finding a safe place to sleep if you party to hard with friends.

  • @DoiInthanon1897
    @DoiInthanon1897 Жыл бұрын

    It finally happened. I got the obligatory FurryMate Ad right before watching this

  • @curlybrace314

    @curlybrace314

    Жыл бұрын

    OMG SAME

  • @TheBonkleFox

    @TheBonkleFox

    Жыл бұрын

    SAME!

  • @fkknsikk
    @fkknsikk Жыл бұрын

    I've worked a few anime conventions and it really is absolute madness even with an established con. Grassroots cons usually end every year with a meeting about whether or not they'll have to cancel next year due to money, chaos, or both.

  • @randomman099
    @randomman099 Жыл бұрын

    Beta, whoever edits your videos are comedy geniuses

  • @THEcrazymew
    @THEcrazymew Жыл бұрын

    "Bitch please! All of us are bottoms!".. Me, as a top considering my options.

  • @xXIronPeachesXx
    @xXIronPeachesXx6 ай бұрын

    Also imagine fighting for a hotel room when you could just sleep in a local patch of woods for free.

  • @Ravensgale
    @Ravensgale Жыл бұрын

    Scrounging for rooms? >Me who is usually on Expedia two or three months or more ahead of time for a con getting my room together. "Room lottery? What's that?"

  • @sillyfloofer
    @sillyfloofer Жыл бұрын

    im surprised you havent talked about furpocalypse broken window drama

  • @showandtell1313
    @showandtell1313 Жыл бұрын

    The intro always makes me laugh 😆

  • @jillianfinley3354
    @jillianfinley3354 Жыл бұрын

    I'm so surprised I've never been to mff lol I go to Chicago at least once a year and usually it's for conventions. I am familiar with the area but I feel like if I were to go to a furry specific convention for the first time I'd want to be fursuiting but I don't have one yet

  • @AspieMemoires
    @AspieMemoires Жыл бұрын

    *Sitting just trying to stay warm in a rundown farmhouse* “Man must be quite a problem finding a room for this event.” 😂

  • @bi-furious5565
    @bi-furious5565 Жыл бұрын

    This year is going to be my first time going and I'm so excited! I didn't get a main hotel room but that's ok. I go to anime cons all the time and that's just par for the course. I'm just happy I'll get to be there. It'll be my first furry con ever and I'm SUPER hype!

  • @ThatAlleyRat
    @ThatAlleyRat Жыл бұрын

    Not a furry but back in the day I use to do commission work for peeps in it, made quite a few good friends so I like to keep up with what's going on in the community. Sad to hear the drama of peeps harassing the staff about the rooms, really sucks people could act that way so glad you're standing up for the workers. Shit like that always drives me up the fuckin' wall. Good vid!

  • @strawberrylemonadelioness
    @strawberrylemonadelioness Жыл бұрын

    I'd love to go to a Con someday but damn, finding rooming seems hard.

  • @introverteddragon2247
    @introverteddragon2247 Жыл бұрын

    Drama on rooms has been insane even off twitter. It's my first year going to MFF and we have a full room. I've been to huge cons for years so I know how important it is to prepare months ahead. Apparently my partner's friend assumed they were rooming with us and only told him this morning. There's one bed and we'd have to pay more if they roomed with us. Their logic is...astounding.

  • @snootletroop768
    @snootletroop768 Жыл бұрын

    I got a hotel room with my friends, but I never dared to mention it on twitter lol

  • @aimrurt
    @aimrurt Жыл бұрын

    "So, you didnt win the hotel room lottery"

  • @tuiteyfruity5010
    @tuiteyfruity5010 Жыл бұрын

    12,000…. I was expecting more but my context is San Diego comic con which is 120,000 people XD

  • @biggaybear
    @biggaybear Жыл бұрын

    Gonna be honest conventions make it more fun if you have a group of friends to be with.. even if it's far to go to the main area at least be grateful your having a good time! It's really about socializing. I'm going to one next year to socialize and uhh have fun in hotel rooms with people.. not going in detail it's personal. But back what I was saying! It'll be nice to go out and have fun even if you don't get a room.

  • @sandifeola9385
    @sandifeola9385 Жыл бұрын

    How do they expect 12k + people to all get rooms at the same hotel

  • @ThundercatDarklion
    @ThundercatDarklion Жыл бұрын

    I remember that hot walkway over the road that connects the hotels and parking garage to the Convention center in Rosemont when I use to go with my family to the Chicago Model & Hobby Show when it was every year in the convention center. Now it is every other year since it's shared with LA California. =^.^=

  • @sciencefixion
    @sciencefixion Жыл бұрын

    I think you bring up some good points about the fairness of the lottery but I also understand the anger of not getting one in the main hotel. I’m disabled so it’s not super easy to stay far away from the con bc health problems :( so I like I get being upset for that reason otherwise it seems pretty petty

  • @LordExetior
    @LordExetior Жыл бұрын

    I can’t exactly relate to this since I don’t go to conventions whatsoever, mainly due to me always needing to get work done, but it sucks how these people attending MFF are just absolutely selfish if they don’t win a lottery for a room. The staff are trying their hardest, guys, get your shit together.

  • @abbexx4283
    @abbexx4283 Жыл бұрын

    Me, who is only going for one day and not going to hotel: YOU'RE WELCOME, I GUESS.

  • @triPixel
    @triPixel Жыл бұрын

    I'm not a furry, but this is mad interesting

  • @rowankrencik
    @rowankrencik Жыл бұрын

    I wanna go to a con eventually to meet Xusho Wolf, because I like sign language and he’s an awesome bean

  • @BrotherAlyx
    @BrotherAlyx Жыл бұрын

    Man the Utoob algo has a sense of humor…

  • @cosmosgaminglounge
    @cosmosgaminglounge Жыл бұрын

    I am not sure how the decide- my group won a slot in the main hotel, we arent just doing December 1-4 but instead we opted for November 29th to December 5th, we applied for 2 bed with 4 people, 2 of us have fursuits, it would be nice to have some clarity on how they decide!

  • @FishFry1124
    @FishFry1124 Жыл бұрын

    People are complaining about not getting a room for the main con hotel. .....Dude, I'd be happy to even get in the con at all.

  • @fintherebel5000

    @fintherebel5000

    Жыл бұрын

    I've only been to Anthrocon but that's cause it's the only Convention i am near it's within driving/biking distance, and yeah people really need to stop complaining, about not getting in the main hotel.

  • @FishFry1124

    @FishFry1124

    Жыл бұрын

    @@fintherebel5000 I just wanna go to a con, period. Shit looks so fun and I'm dying to go to one...

  • @fintherebel5000

    @fintherebel5000

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FishFry1124 Well, work hard and save up and you'll eventually be able to go

  • @BillieSharkTooth
    @BillieSharkTooth Жыл бұрын

    This came out like a second to soon what with the PeaceWolf fiasco lol

  • @Danderwhitepaw
    @Danderwhitepaw Жыл бұрын

    I'm very nervous of going, hotel rooms want people of 21 and I'm 20, Im going and I can't wait to meet people :3

  • @maxy7k72
    @maxy7k72 Жыл бұрын

    14:38 so you are basically saying that, "will top for a room" would be more effective?

  • @PortCityBalrog

    @PortCityBalrog

    Жыл бұрын

    Hell yea

  • @stormbreakthestormwing
    @stormbreakthestormwing Жыл бұрын

    *Some random person* He would take his room quietly and let us suffer? How dare you! *Me* I would too.

  • @tomdragamer
    @tomdragamer Жыл бұрын

    While I've never organised a convention before, I have studied library events planning as part of my certificate course, and a lot of planning and work goes into organising a library event let alone the amount of work that must into a convention. From what I've heard, MFF is clearly in the hands of people who have a better idea of what they're doing compared to something like Dashcon. With an event this big, there's going to be minor instances of something happening and they do their best to fix those issues because it's all they can do when they have a hundred other things to manage and organise.

  • @zipjay
    @zipjay Жыл бұрын

    Not trying to defend the complainers but do you think some of these people might be older furs that remember when conventions were like 2 or 3 thousand people at most and it wasn't so hard to get a hotel room? And for you younger guys, yes, Anthrocon and MFF both totaled out at just 2 or 3k attendies not too long ago.

  • @Gluten_possum
    @Gluten_possum Жыл бұрын

    My house is in driving distance so I’m just watching the hotel burn from my lawn chair lol

  • @bazilgamerdeer1239
    @bazilgamerdeer1239 Жыл бұрын

    This wouldn't be such a drama if there weren't other much larger conventions held in the same venue that are able to handle the load no issues. It's only mff, and while it is hard for sure to manage such an event, there needs to be more hands on board clearly.

  • @someoddchick9296
    @someoddchick9296 Жыл бұрын

    There's so many people who want to go to MFF that those rooms go so fast. I use to live in Cali and go to Anime Expo and hotels were always an issue. Any large con is going to have that issue. I've actually worked in conventions before and shit be wild. The amount of work on any level to run a convention is a labor of passion. The biggest issues in my experience are always room and safety (cause some peeps are creepers) I live close enough so I'm still going to MFF. Would I have much preferred a room, yeah but it is what it is.

  • @RockyGems
    @RockyGems Жыл бұрын

    The first time I try to get a hotel at a con and it's this one. That's on me, I guess.

  • @GunNutproductionsOG
    @GunNutproductionsOG Жыл бұрын

    Twitter only showing how pissed off people are on a subject? I’m shocked, shocked I say

  • @makowithamiata6901
    @makowithamiata6901 Жыл бұрын

    I'm just renting an RV because as a swedish potato idfk how to hotel in america

  • @Lil_VampireCJ
    @Lil_VampireCJ Жыл бұрын

    If I had to be honest, (if MFF don't do this already) they should prioritise those who are disabled and then next people coming in from Abroad who have to get a visa etc to come in to have the main hotel rooms before the other kinds of guests get priority if any rooms remain. I personally won't ever be attending MFF as I am not from the US & will never come to the US just for a convention especially one that is so chaotic and packed.

  • @t3hp0larbear
    @t3hp0larbear Жыл бұрын

    As the director of I.T. for a smaller con, can confirm I don't know shit about running a con. It's why I direct a department and not the whole convention %-)

  • @myplaylist7007
    @myplaylist7007 Жыл бұрын

    Non-furries: Why are you dressed up as mascots ? Furries: It keeps us warm during winter.

  • @gamerdrache6076

    @gamerdrache6076

    9 ай бұрын

    i m non furry and i use a tshirt for winter so

  • @Maddiedoggie
    @Maddiedoggie Жыл бұрын

    My friend couldn't get a room this year.

  • @DaxSudo
    @DaxSudo Жыл бұрын

    I feel like a lot of this can be solved with basic tech. Like if they asked I would totally volunteer. Now I have only done engineer conventions but I would happily build a better more reliable booking and lottery site with complete transparency. I would happily build tools they need to run it.

  • @dragonslayros
    @dragonslayros Жыл бұрын

    i was searching for huckmon digimon content and your video showed up ?? im assuming your suit is inspired by huckmon thats why your channel was recommended ?

  • @Kieva_Storm
    @Kieva_Storm Жыл бұрын

    I've been staff since 2011. I can't say anything about how the lottery works, but I can assure you it is totally fair. I can however also say I've had a main hotel room every single year.

  • @Newfoundlanddogtherian
    @Newfoundlanddogtherian8 ай бұрын

    Me who lives near Chicago so it’ll probably be the first convention I go to the panic

  • @SoftTaco_
    @SoftTaco_ Жыл бұрын

    My cross country and track experience should make this easy

  • @Mr_Erutrot
    @Mr_Erutrot Жыл бұрын

    1:51 my entire town could have gone and still 4000 people from other places would be there

  • @pxylphilia
    @pxylphilia Жыл бұрын

    Was just recommended this vid. I had been subbed for years but i guess youtube unsubbed me. I just figured you stopped posting cuz I haven't seen you in awhile but now i know why

  • @bingobunny7862
    @bingobunny7862 Жыл бұрын

    Wow, can’t believe I may be going to college in Chicago… imagine that :0

  • @Neptune_pup
    @Neptune_pup Жыл бұрын

    I have scrambled eggs anyone that doesn’t think they are a good food just doesn’t know what food is

  • @cheetahspot
    @cheetahspot Жыл бұрын

    I lost my shit at "a train tunnel going against another train tunnel" :)

  • @saturndev
    @saturndev Жыл бұрын

    One of my friends was lucky to get a room in the main hotel, invited me to stay in it with him

  • @ShwintyKat
    @ShwintyKat Жыл бұрын

    We managed to get a room in the lottery (not the main hotel rip) and if it were rigged then we would have never gotten one lol

  • @hybrid.roodragon1226
    @hybrid.roodragon1226 Жыл бұрын

    About one or so minutes in i never looked at the map that way and now.i cant get it out of my head. why beta WHYYYYYYYYYYYY ;-;

  • @PeterCassidyakaWolfchylde
    @PeterCassidyakaWolfchylde Жыл бұрын

    Funny thing though - the room/hotel hunger games thing is basically the DragonCon Marriott Gran Melee, and if they ever went to a lottery system I think the fanbase would burn Atlanta to the ground. 🤣

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