Those freeports are prisons for art. It they would become illegal art appreciators would be so glad

@christopherwestpresents

29 күн бұрын

That is so true. Imagine ALL the things we’re not seeing.

For what I've read about Inigo, he's a sociopath.

@christopherwestpresents

28 күн бұрын

That certainly seems to be the case.

Thanks for putting together such an interesting story in video format!

@christopherwestpresents

22 күн бұрын

So glad you liked it! And thanks so much for the comment!

I was 'around' a painting that had five different parties that thought they each owned it, or could take possession to sell it. The guy who bought it, the guy who claimed it was in his storage, a couple of banks and another dealer. Some how the guy who claimed it was in his storage ended up selling it. I got the story because as a photographer with a possible link to it everyone asked me if I had transparencies of it. I never actually got to see it. In the 1980s I worked for an art dealer in Los Angeles named Doug ...... Endless accusations, legal troubles. He was arrested. In the last several years he's been in more trouble. The thing is Doug is, or was, brilliant. Ever hear of Larry Gagosian? Of course. When I was shooting and consulting artists in Venice California, many of them on Market Street, 'Larry' as he was called by our group, lived on Market St. I never met him. If I had to tell the biography of Gagosian in a single sentence it would be: "Larry Gagosian understood just how brilliant Doug ....... was, and that if Doug could only stay out of hot water he'd have a brilliant career, change art in endless positive ways." Gagosian might disagree with this statement, but maybe he wouldn't. He's certainly contributed immensely to contemporary art, and gone so much further than did Doug. He did what Doug was doing in such a way he could do more and more of it. Kudos. Doug did accomplish a lot, could've done a lot more. Here's the thing about dodgy people in "The Art Business" - they are all cheap, horrible, boring, mean people -- except for Doug. I still wouldn't trust him. Doug had imagination. It was fun working for him, but what a roller coaster ride. Most of the crooks in 'The Art Business' have imagination only in what lies they are going to tell you. Stay far away from them. They are a complete waste of time. They will not advance your career, don't go anywhere near them. I've seen many poorly made fake Jackson Pollocks. The thing is, it's not that hard to make much better 'Pollock like' paintings. The people that make and deal in these fakes don't seem to have the imagination, the skill, or ability to do more than tell shallow lies, even in paint, and then chisel everybody. I once photographed an obviously fake Pollock and then called the client demanding payment before I would send the transparencies. She told me, "Send me the photos, send him (someone else) the bill." Guess what he said when I called him. (As a photographer I'm not 'qualified' to say 'that's a fake I'm not going to shoot it.' I've been in rooms listening to people trying to convince themselves of something.) I didn't waste another minute. Here're are some warning signs: Cavalier promises to take your art for sale with payment in 30 or 60 days. (Before consigning anything, ask around. Everyone knows about the deadbeats. During a conversation with another art documentation photographer, my competitor, we realized we both knew and worked for --only once - all the deadbeats. Our steady clients? Neither of us had ever worked for the other guy's.) If you are buying art, especially at the lower end. As soon as the dealer starts talking about 'investment quality,' walk away. There is no investment in low end art. If you buy an S&P fund you won't have to pay 50% to a dealer when you cash it out, you will for art. Buy $10k in a fund, next week you can get your $10 back, with art you can only get $5k back -- and only if there's a buyer. Buy what you like at a price you can afford. Never think of art as your retirement fund. I have some good pieces by known artists, the values haven't gone up much in decades. Doesn't matter. Works from my friends aren't going anywhere. When I would photograph at the blue chip world class art exhibitions -- no one talked about 'investment.' At the low end prints and poster show? I heard that more times than "I like the colors." And reassuringly I saw a lot of people just turn on their heels and walk away. If anyone lies to you. Do you think they'll lie to you again? Walk away. You don't have to explain anything to them. Liars, sociopaths, con artists are a complete waste of time. And the major auction houses have all done some very dodgy things. Be wary.

@christopherwestpresents

Ай бұрын

Such great stories. And great advice!

@eewilson9835

22 күн бұрын

Neat details, and this happened then, its skyrocketing now, san francisco is diagnosing people early alshiemers and getting great legal reps to crack down on sales for things people do not want, fringe help, but some light.

On this theme you could do a video on John Myatt. His phenomenal story of painting fake masterpieces is quite interesting

@christopherwestpresents

Ай бұрын

This is a great idea! I’ll put an art forger on the list.

Wow! Very interesting story. I will keep my ears open to see how this plays out. Thank you!

@christopherwestpresents

29 күн бұрын

I keep trying to reply and YT is having issues! But I’ll be sure to stay on top of the story!

Thanks!

@christopherwestpresents

Ай бұрын

Always happy to help!

I see a movie coming, but based on the history I'm not going to be invested.

@christopherwestpresents

29 күн бұрын

Movie coming for sure! I actually think the BBC just said they are doing something this summer.

@5aturnia

26 күн бұрын

I see what you did there

Unfortunately this happens a lot in the art world. I am an artist in secondary market (Fischetti is my name). The art world is ridden with illegal activity in the US and in the UK. Artists also get to be compensated after every sale. The business needs to change it is also a very small world so most people know what is going on. My podcast HYPE A-we speak about this and more. x

@christopherwestpresents

24 күн бұрын

Thanks for this. I’ll check it out. And thanks so much for watching and the comment!

@eewilson9835

22 күн бұрын

The Universities a pumping out Masters level graduates that are desperate to stop the fakes, but they play a beggers role, begging for money in a larger "safer" dimes and dollars for the museum role.

Was wondering when Kenny would get a mention. Didn't disappoint... Ooof (sub'd)

@christopherwestpresents

29 күн бұрын

Thank you! Kenny is the best.

First name Color, last name Actionsolid, I'm Color Actionsolid and I'm the most honest art game person that you can trust to ethically source funds for a curated palace of your dreams, what is you pin?

@christopherwestpresents

22 күн бұрын

Hahaha. That’s hilarious!

It would have been more likely to succeed if they had done the entire building, instead of just the base. But regardless, that building is, imo, an example of the corporate-type brutalism that gives the movement a bad name. There's so much incredibly interesting brutalism, really interesting and futuristic, artistic designs.

@christopherwestpresents

20 күн бұрын

I agree. Some of the old Soviet block brutalism is more interesting.

He's back so does KNOEDLER Gallery ?

@christopherwestpresents

28 күн бұрын

Ann Friedman is apparently still trying to run a gallery, speaking of Knoedler.

the "Q" in Basquiat is silent. just FYI

@christopherwestpresents

20 күн бұрын

Thanks!

I think the tv show was called “White Collar”

@christopherwestpresents

24 күн бұрын

I need to watch that show again.

For normies like us would you ever advise invest in "Fractional art ownership " meaning buying shares of them now & sell later ? it looks to me this fraudster was kind of doing Fractional art ownership but with promise buyers will own the artwork. Thanks for sharing

@christopherwestpresents

24 күн бұрын

Are you talking about a company like Masterworks? I think all art investing has risk, but they are probably doing it the right way. From what I understand they individually register each piece and are pretty transparent. And if it gets more people involved in art, than that is good too.

aura? lol

@christopherwestpresents

25 күн бұрын

😝

Oh my God, for those crappy works?

@christopherwestpresents

26 күн бұрын

I can agree with you on the Stingel, but I’d love the Basquiat!

Jesus says LET THE THIEF KEEP ON THIEFING for he shall have his part in the CACKIE LAKE!

@christopherwestpresents

26 күн бұрын

I have no idea what this even means.

What a load of pretentious crap. "While Cube!" Ha ha yeah man! He's right where he needs to be. I hope he scams em again!! Hilarious!

@christopherwestpresents

20 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Interesting. One other comment. Re-shoot the video while sitting on your hands. The constant swinging hand jive became very distracting.

@christopherwestpresents

26 күн бұрын

That wouldn’t look weird at all!

@executivesteps

26 күн бұрын

@@christopherwestpresents I meant that figuratively. 😉

[baskiat]: really?! It's [ʒɑ̃ miʃɛl baskja]. Otherwise a great video;)

@christopherwestpresents

28 күн бұрын

Noted. And thanks!