Bicycle routes shouldn't follow highways but instead provide a more direct way. Of course, this is a game not reality...

@sparetot

2 жыл бұрын

Also the air pollution next to the traffic would be really bad to breathe in.

@Yorick257

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, in reality, it would be just a waste of money. But in the game, some people are happy to cycle for several days straight just to get to work and back home

@dycedargselderbrother5353

2 жыл бұрын

@@Yorick257 As long as there is a contiguous bike lane, cyclists seem to have unlimited range. I've seen them going 4+ tiles. As far as game mechanics go, cycling is effectively another mass transit option and a long distance one at that.

@sylvainkramer3653

2 жыл бұрын

@@dycedargselderbrother5353 4 tiles is actually only 8km long, which is a pretty reasonable distance to bike

@RryhhbfrHhgdHhgd356

2 жыл бұрын

@@sparetot To be fair, it’s 2100 something at this point, and the island still exists, so all those cars are certainly electric or hydrogen fuel cell. 😂

I am a bit concerned about the overpasses that were removed for pedestrians. Now they have to get a bike if they want to cross the highway as the bicycle lane does not allow people to walk on it.

@MrSquark

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, no pedestrian access over the highway now

@mattjk5299

2 жыл бұрын

A bit annoying there's no wider bike/public footpath combo in vanilla as there is often IRL L

@amenboughanmi5819

5 ай бұрын

Bikeability destroys walkability and those poor nice bridges 😂😅😅

I love the emphasis on biking in Cities Skylines, although I really wish the default cycling roads weren't just bicycle gutters. It's funny how modded bicycle lane roads are usually cognizant of that and make sure they add a buffer for protected bike lanes.

@andrewcharlton4053

2 жыл бұрын

A fellow Not Just Bikes fan I see...

@rkuncin

2 жыл бұрын

there's some great roads with protected bike lanes on the workshop

The good thing about cycling infrastructure is that you don't have to follow existing roads or use already built junctions for cars. In stead: create shortcuts across the roads (underneath or over) and create faster routes from a to b.

It would be interesting to see a city design with walking paths and cycling, as well as public transport as the main thing and regular car lanes built around it, instead of adding in bike lanes after the fact - wonder if that is even possible.

@guy_autordie

2 жыл бұрын

Not really due to the construction of the buildings. Or. We need a road that is pedestrian/bike only, and adding backstreets for cars. But the models for the buildings are not create for that. You really need to plan your city for high availability for walking and biking paths.

@lachlanp4198

2 жыл бұрын

@@guy_autordie You can use a design similar to the superblocks in Barcelona, where most streets are the zonable promenade with bike lanes, and ban private vehicles on them, and only have some blocks with regular roads

@rellyrelishes

2 жыл бұрын

That would be a great idea. I've planned to do that for a new section in my city on Xbox. Build the bike infrastructure first then add roads and zoning to fit around it. It seems better that way because then you don't have to make as many compromises when it comes to the paths bikers can use safely

@METALFREAK03

2 жыл бұрын

sounds like hell for a city planner.

@PerfectAlibi1

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if Biffa watches, "Not just bikes" KZread channel ^^

I wouldn’t much appreciate cycling down a highway like that, but that’s the beauty of such a game: You can build things like this and they work.

@OllieV__nl

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. I would hate to go there on a windy day. Not enough protection against headwind, not enough spots to take a break.

@rellyrelishes

2 жыл бұрын

Yea as a cyclist it wouldn't be very comfortable with all the road noise and lack of shade from trees. But it would be a very direct and efficient route.

@PerfectAlibi1

2 жыл бұрын

@@rellyrelishes No proper bike infrastructure would EVER place bike paths in the middle of a flipping highway...

@slate613

2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention the "fun" of breathing in exhaust fumes the whole time you're on there. Which the game doesn't really take into effect so yeah.

@OllieV__nl

2 жыл бұрын

It would be a hard road mentally too, with no real defining features. My daily cycle to school wasn't long (7km) but it was varied. 1km in? A bend. 2km? A little wooded area. 3km, the next village. Etc, etc. If the weather's terrible and you've just got to power through, being able to tick off how far you've come helps a ton. "Straight on as far as the eye can see"... my condolences. This just treats cycle traffic the exact same way as car traffic, and it simply doesn't work like that. But as has been said, Cities Skylines is just a video game, and a pretty unrealistic one at that.

So glad we dutch as cycle heaven did not do this. The constant noise, smell and having to take ramps each time.. bleh. But indeed, beauty of such a game. I would love to see what you can do after looking into how the dutch (netherlands) do cycling.

Poor, poor Piper. She has to go under a bridge that threatens to take her head off, past 2 columns that nearly knock her off the road, around a treacherous roundabout, and across approximately 500 miles of city... just to work at a taxi depot. You'd think her job would just let her get in a taxi to work. LOL!

@jramseier

2 жыл бұрын

The roundabout bike lanes 😬, gotta pray before you enter

Biking along the highway breathing fumes is awful, these routes should really be more separate from these highways.

@TheEtueify

2 жыл бұрын

@@JulianNial Noise Pollution gets dangerous at over 30 mph / 50 kmph, so all cars will have to levitate too. Though at 70/80 mph, 120/130 kmph noise from air resistance would be quite annoyingly loud too but I don't think it would be dangerous? Perhaps.

@NelsonBrown

2 жыл бұрын

Not that the game cares, but people prefer biking on flatter paths. If a grade separation requires the bikes change elevation, an underpass is better because riders can use the speed from the downhill on the other side.

@edwardmiessner6502

2 жыл бұрын

@@NelsonBrown although in this game the underpasses are tunnels which are muggers' havens irl

@NelsonBrown

2 жыл бұрын

@@edwardmiessner6502 - yeah, in reality it needs to not feel claustrophobic like a tunnel. But the car road can be a bridge so the bike underpass doesn't feel like a tunnel. The mugger thing may or may not be imaginary, but the perception would affect people's decisions to use the route or not.

"If you were a cyclist, you could fit under there." Um... Biffa... we're taller than cars. Unless you've got a very big car. If your car cannot fit under it, nor can we cyclists. 😂

@slate613

2 жыл бұрын

My thinking when we were following Piper to work. She's off to work. . Never mind, she was decapitated by an overpass. lol

@Yorick257

2 жыл бұрын

If that would be the whole truth, the channel "11foot8" would feature cyclists not cars 😂

@CJLloyd

2 жыл бұрын

@@Yorick257 Wut? Obviously, cyclists aren't tall enough to need 11ft8 clearance, but neither are cars. Vans, buses, trucks, etc, may well be, though, so it's probably intended for them.

@DaedalusYoung

2 жыл бұрын

@@Yorick257 The 11foot8 bridge channel does NOT feature cars. It features trucks.

@GamingBren

2 жыл бұрын

@@CJLloyd the 11ft8 bridge was expanded to 12 ft 6 in a while ago, they call it “11ft8+8” now (trucks still hit it though)

17:00 Biffa, why don't you use the modded monorail tracks you have? They are meant to go over roads, the 8m track should be perfect for this use case.

@ChrisDombroski

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure you need 16m for a 2u road... but yes those tracks should work perfectly here

I feel like cycling along over the highway gives you the lung of an coal miner very fast. 😄

Game people: "I bike every day down highway." RL: "Only legends can make it so far"

A cyclist not stopping for a red light is the most realistic thing I've ever seen in CSL! Lol

3:24 i'd be more worried about the fumes and the pm2 particulates, but i'm sure it'd be fine.

They should build a road implementing a bike lane with a barrier, next to car parking then car lanes parallel to that. Tram/bus/mono-rail lane in the middle.

@BliffleSplick

2 жыл бұрын

Might be able to find it on the Workshop, and if you're inclined, you could make it and publish it yourself!

@Tearnofear

2 жыл бұрын

There are some 4u like that on the Workshop for sure. Dunno about the PublicTransport though

Cyclist not stopping at red lights - totally true to life...

@edwardmiessner6502

2 жыл бұрын

Police ignoring cyclists not stopping at red lights ... outside of a few US cities also true to life

Be sure to include mountain bike paths over the hills on the main island. Love your builds Biffa :)

Hope they have some earplugs biking over the highway like that. Piper to her friend: “THIS BIKE HIGHWAY IS NICE ISNT IT!?” Piper’s friend: “WHAT?!?”

The biker was not stopping at those red lights because the intersections were all T's and not 4 way. The path of travel the biker had did not ever intersect with traffic if the biker is going straight. It would be completely unnecessary for them to stop at those red lights.

@edwardmiessner6502

2 жыл бұрын

I noticed right after the cyclist blew the last red light a police cruiser went by and didn't even notice! 😂

You probably need to revisit parking city wide. You did remove a lot of street parking this episode

@Tearnofear

2 жыл бұрын

The Vanillaroads with Grass or Trees/Grass don't allow for parking so it isn't that much of a loss. Just in case you didn't know :)

@Myne1001

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tearnofear correct. There's probably about a dozen roads in the entire city that have on street parking. I've mentioned it many times to Biffa and he completely ignores that fact then wonders why he needs to spam so many car parking assets.

Oh, I love that build so much ... 21:59 Heather seems to come from the IT- or rather Eye Tea district - and if you are following the route until 22:22 this is actually a horseshoe-shaped route. If you are not exploiting the overpowered cycling in the game's algorithm there should definitely be additional shorter connections. Combine the Heather route with your thoughts 24:20 - 24:40 ... I really disagree here: Giving cars access to the actual highway takes a lot of space because you need proper junctions. Access to the bicycle highway is far less complicated and takes a lot less space. And there are hundreds or thousands of non-Heathers and almost-Heathers - for them additional points of access can make a serious difference and their routing algorithm might decide that cycling is better if just a few bike path connections are added. You can seriously attack road traffic if you exploit its weaknesses and add targeted bike connections where regular highway connections are not possible.

lol anyone notice that Biffa keeps this game alive ... it's like he's the only content creator who didn't wear out and actually has fun .... if you look at most cities, they have a bit it of Biffa in them 🤔

@delugesofgrandeur

2 жыл бұрын

City Planner Plays and twodollarstwenty are also putting out great CS quality.

Bicycles are always great ways to get people moving around the city faster ☺️

Just built first pc and playing for first time with mods is amazing! Helps I’ve been watching you forever so I know how to use most the mods in your workshop!

@tiagoprado7001

2 жыл бұрын

No need for parking when cims can get where they need to go without a car.

When you tried the monorail over road - roads, you missed the wider pillar monorail over road - roads. With those there are no pillars in the middle of the road.

Mmm the noice in my ears and fumes going straight into my throat cycling above the highway. Sounds like a dream

I’ve been waiting since your first few episodes when you made that amazing bike path to come back in and add the rest! At 24:55 I feel like changing the one u road to a bike road would help connect your college campus outpost well and really connect the whole right hand side of the island now. Also at 35:24 you accidentally changed a road to one way off a round about when it was two way before. Also I think it’s been mentioned before, can people use the red highway paths to walk? There’s a few spots you changed walking paths that connect your left and right side of the island.

More bicycles! Build a lot fully elevated bicycle highway! make every street bicycle friendly :) If you can't do it on that particular street then build a completely separated bicycle path.

Biffa, be careful about replacing those mossy walk and bike paths with those red bike only paths. You were making me nervous about some of those switches. {I also love the look of those dual paths, so I'm biased}. And thanks for putting in the work; you're the best at networking builds.

This has got to be the start of a new series, or maybe a new channel, of comedy bicycling commentary by Biffa 😂 awesome stuff dude!

It's like you've handed over the keys to your channel to Not Just Bikes for this episode. Love how New Tealand is looking!

@edwardmiessner6502

2 жыл бұрын

Although he'd have a bone to pick with all those gutter pan bike lanes. Did you see how far Piper had to bike on that narrow four lane road?

@jrm78

2 жыл бұрын

@@edwardmiessner6502 I can definitely see NJB not being a big fan of the bike lanes in middle of the highway either even though they're raised 3-4m above grade.

That tea truck at 7:22 just noped back out of that intersection and made a U-turn.

A great addition to increasing health and decreasing traffic congestion. "Spent hours working on it"; truly dedication I wish real world city councils would replicate for our own cities. Thank you again.

Can’t wait for the Airports DLC. I know you’ll be spending time with Air New Tealand 😂 Only makes sense! Keep up the great content. Been watching you a Year now man time flies!

@edwardmiessner6502

2 жыл бұрын

"Air New Tealand Flight 1 for Verde Beach, for over the hills and far away..." (Monty Python reference)

One thing to remember is that none of these biking roads have parking on it. So you have to chuck down a few parking lots for each stretch of road you change out. I think you have the realistic parking turned on in traffic president, so the games going to react poorly to the parking situation. Biking lanes do look good though! Thanks for the content biffa!

Enjoying this series and I must admit this map has made it alot more interesting - With Sidai's map making skills and Biffa's city building skills it's a perfect combination. I know BonBonB is doing his What Map - map of the year at the moment and would be good to see you build your next city on the winner as it will be a stunner this year. A belated happy Christmas to all

Having bike highway in the middle of a car highway obviously wouldn't function in the real world, but since this is a game I have no problem with that. I think it's a clever idea ;) I would just point out that you don't really need to change the nicer looking bridges over the highway to have bike lanes, since you have plenty of other ways to get on and off of the bike highway which also function as a bridge over the highway.

The Seattle, WA area has two highway bridges with parallel bike/pedestrian trails. SR520 and I90 floating bridges across lake Washington. Both are on the north side of the highway. I90 doesn't have great noise suppression between the traffic and the trail and it is absolutely nerve racking to ride on. The SR520 path is newish and I've not ridden on it, but has a full sound barrier wall between traffic and trail users.

I haven't done a Bike express down a Freeway/highway like that, but I have done one outside of highways on both sides and some highway to arterial interchanges, where the highway is above the road, the bike lane connects with a bike friendly avenue, but also have bike lanes connecting to other side of highway, so if a cyclest wanted could ride the side of highway one direction, and come back the other. But I use the center of my highways with Tram tracks, to connect my Tram Depot to various Tram zones around my city, and every highway interchange with roadway over/under pass, the Tram track in the middle balances out with the roadway mentioned, crossing through it, and continues up the middle of the highway, but crossing the main street at the highway, it will also have a Tram/road link, so the Tram taking the highway expressway up the middle, can turn off at any major interchange if the Tram is working that zone... All to explain! Your Bicycle expressway up the middle of the highway, instead of staying below the bridges, can come up and balance with the roadway, which can have a Bike friendly roadway, to turn or continue down the expressway. If a bicyclist only travels at 5-10 MPH max (I'm American, idk KPH), slowing down for a few interactions won't hurt them as much. It might hurt surrounding traffic maybe, but maybe bicyclist lights can be in unison with the interchange lights at the intersection. ANOTHER IDEA... If the Bicycle expressway up the middle of the highway is 4-5 M high... Then keeping the expressway under the interchange passes, a few m before the overpass, maybe a branch pike path break right where the highway exit for highway traffic is, the break path from the expressway will stay above the highway, and then run parallel with the Exit ramp, and meet at the intersection where the ramp goes, and again having a bike friendly overpass, the bike lane integrates with an existing intersection, without the main Bicycle expressway interfering with anything else. Again. Just my thoughts.

When you go to do the next one, it would be interesting to have an overview of the traffic before and after to see how increasing cycle-ability affects it, if at all.

26:05 Could've made it the easy way right up connecting to the bridge but Nope, It has to be done the Biffa way, Love it :D

Hi Biffa, u haven't connected the monorail stop to the path and the rest of the Eye Tea district so people could use monorail. Still haven't put train stop to the Birdsong Transit Hub. I missed New Tealand, hope new episode will come out soon!

About bridge heights, in Sweden (and I belive all of Europe) the "Free height" as in the height at wich you don't need a sign for it is 4.5m. Anything bellow that should have a height sign :) Thought it might help to visualise and make more realistic bridges and such.

This sounds like how most cities do anything except cars. "Well we have cars here and bicycles can go around these huge extra ways". Instead of maybe cutting a bit out from parking spaces in very central location...

You should connect the bike paths to the roadways before a toll booth so they have to throw down a pocket car, drive through, and pay for the upkeep of their bike highway $$$$

Great to have a fresh Biffa vid! Welcome back chap, hope your Christmas went well 🙂

I look forward to biffa's videos in the morning along with my morning coffee. Gets the day rolling

There is a setting in the NMT options to ensure that parallel networks you add will connect to the nodes at either end when adding a new one so you do not have to go back and use the union tool each time. It should work for similar networks... though I had it work for roads, but not so well with quays.

Piper is using an electric pedal-assist bike for sure.

'Depending on how Accurately the road are placed down'... Mine usually 'look' okay from a distance. But when you get close you see the nodes have the appearance of being placed by a drunk clown on a bender, wearing a blind fold, while riding a unicycle, following instructions being yelled at him in Cantonese, while being vigorously slapped with a medium sized wet cod.

Nice to see that the bike mechanics are realistic, cyclists don't stop for red lights or give ways in real life

imagine to bike there with all the emission from the cars :)) must be a blast

17:10 Monorail over road pack screaming "USE ME"

"There's something wrong with this Bridge." "Yes, there's a Slope on it . . " Wonder who / how many will get it . .

@danmc3463

2 жыл бұрын

Some say he has bicycles for breakfast & he only knows 2 songs. All we know is he’s called the Stig

Biffa, @16:53, You can place the Monorail track over the 2-lane bike road, delete the original pillars, and replace them with wide ones (download asset from Stream). This is all inspired by imperatur who does this all the time in a lot of his builds. I think he builds rails over the top in 7mm increments to eliminate the pillars and adds his own.

You should build a express-tunnel through the islands and the mountain. You don't have such a highway because it would smash your traffic, but with bike-lanes you have nothig to care about and it dosen't matter that you can't see them because you don't get any traffic-jams anyway.

Very informative video about biking in a city, Biffa. Realistically, though, keeping the bikes away from the motorists is your best bet... 😏

Awesome timelaps at the end !

The bident intersection @ 15:00 is WILD. Imagine having to climb such heights! If you lose your brakes you fall off a skyscraper.

Love the bike paths, now please build a passenger harbour.

I wouldn't fancy going under those two power lines though... Nice work though. That's what I call a Cycling Superhighway !

As a cyclist I only see one issue. At 9:55 you would see it in the daylight but at night that’s a big hazard so stick a light on it! But on the other hand it’s only a game and the the pixelated cyclists will survive! 😂

@edwardmiessner6502

2 жыл бұрын

Actually it's an overhead sign bridge pillar and there is at least one other. Definitely dangerous for cyclists

This episode perfectly shows why bicycle paths shouldn't be an after thought. Consider them as the nr.1 public transport option and integrate them from the beginning.

This is one of the things I always wanted for NT. Keep it up, love it so much!

Nice addition to the city. Would have been fun if you had compared traffic flow before and after, though your traffic is always - as we know - top notch 😉 Well done.

Nothing more refreshing than breathing a fresh 6.2l v8 breeze into the lungs while cycling a bike in between the high way

I know for me, whenever I make path networks like this, I tend to think of the realistic cost. Nowhere that I know of has floating paths all over the place. The occasional bridge sure, but not long continuous paths tens of meters off the ground going for kilometers. I try to keep things close to the ground and if I have to go elevated, keep the slopes realistic and keep the elevated part as short as it can be. That's just me of course, this is a game, go nuts.

@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines

2 жыл бұрын

And I do 🤣

Biffa do you have any mods for the emergency vehicles, where traffic moves out the way, as emergency vehicles increase traffic levels, and just make it harder to manage the city

Merry Christmas and happy New Year Biffa. Thanks for taking the time to make us a vid to tie us over til the new year.

35:23 accidentally You changed a 4 lane two way avenue to a three lane one way street.....and then covered it with monorail track....

Hilarious (from 22:58)!! Your cycle route is a marvel, I think you should put yourself forward as a city planner!

If there's one thing I disagree with Biffa on, it's cyclists on roundabouts. Small village roundabouts, sure, but anything bigger = dedicated cyclist/pedestrian paths for me.

@edwardmiessner6502

2 жыл бұрын

Not Just Bikes have examples of bicycle roundabouts outside regular roundabouts in the Netherlands on his channel

At roughly 25:00 That European 4 lane road/bridge did have cyclists crossing over it, You can change it back from the 4 line with cycle lanes so it's nice again.

I very much enjoy your play style and watching your videos.. At about the 28 minute mark, I'm not sure it was worth changing that combo pedestrian/cycle bridge into a purely bike path was worth it. I appreciate your intent but Sims like to walk too and there is no longer any pedestrian connection across the highway...

Great idea but you now have shortage of walking paths across the highway where you changed to bike only from bike and walking paths.

That cyclist didn't stop at the red lights because their lanes didn't intersect with any oncoming traffic. Oh the advantage of dedicated lanes

You should make a series after this one where you play with mods but build everything super realistic, like it would be build in real life. I'm not a big fan personally of the way the bike part turned out, I would rather see a nice sea view bike lane or something.

Woo Hoo like number 2.1K! Loved your ideas. Thanks for your hard work. I hope you and your family had a Merry Christmas if you celebrate it.

Biffa you have downloaded monorail traxks over road. You can actually connect the bus station with bike lanes and have tracks

Loving the bike path in the middle of the highway! Very smart idea! Also love your videos! My other account is subscribed.

The downside with all the road converting is that now you are short of parking spots on those areas

16:17 you can do the 2-lane bike lane. Draw monorail over, and delete the pilars. Then copy the other wide pilar and place them in instead.

@brittanyeastep4866

2 жыл бұрын

He has a mod for monorail that goes over the roads @17:00 you can see them. I don't get why he hasn't used them yet. I've been using them and they work well.

Happy holidays to you and your family! Also thank you for the new video!

These bike lanes are on another level.

Another great vid, Biffa. Hope you & your family had a great Christmas. 🕺🏻

It's very noticeable that Biffa isn't from a bike friendly country himself.

@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines

2 жыл бұрын

It's a game 😉

@Subosi

2 жыл бұрын

@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines while I'm well aware of that. A prime example of why it's noticeable that you don't live in a bike friendly country was when you checked the route of the cyclist to the pagoda and were pleased that he had to cycle there with a rather big detour. Offering more direct routes to cyclists will make more choose cycling, even within the game 😉

Very nice, Biffa, very nice. You might be interested in Blue Hawks roads with protected bike lanes, tree lined medians AND parking. Might be of use to you. I know there are a few other modders who make similar concepts too. EDIT: Oh, never mind. I see you used them in one your videos before. And he features that video on his mod page. What a circular world!

Dutchify ur city, with Biffa.

@muncherofpizza

2 жыл бұрын

Almost. Almost.

@luciferchomsky2782

2 жыл бұрын

The Dutch would build the highways after the bike paths.

@PerfectAlibi1

2 жыл бұрын

@@luciferchomsky2782 The Dutch wouldn't build bike paths in the middle of a highway...

🤣 Dude, that set of bike paths at 14:43 looks like a uterus and has me rolling. Happy New Year @Biffa.

This was great undertaking and quite exciting to see... Thanks for the entertainment :)

I like seeing more focus on bikability, its something that doesn't often get talked about but its so valuable to a city in real life

Did you really put two sewage systems in a beach? Omg Biffa 😲

The bike highway should be called "Prettea red bikeway" 😊

Bike lanes mess with parking, I bet inhabitants struggle more for parking at some spots. And city is still bloody lacking in beaches. A "pebbled" beach for stone skipping could be nice as well. Also I'd build a "sportea" park with bike ring, where people can go in for sports if they wish. Volcano fits nicely for mounting bike and hiking. More pristine, wilder park or woods, where they can pick up mushrooms or berries also seems to be a good idea. Happy New Year!! Upd. I've noticed a cape at 31:46, with a few props and some extra pebbles that will be stone skipping beach. Kids could try to throw pebbles through the wind turbine, isn't it fun?))))

Nice use of the Crimean Bridge asset

Now that's a creative solution; I'm not sure the average cycler would take that path in real life; granted, it's safe, but the sound of those cars and trucks right below you... maybe a utilitarian cycler might take the path, but recreational one definitely wouldn't. And as for main four lane fast speed through roads with a bicycle gutter... forget about it, only cyclists will go on that thing. Also, if you want to do those roundabouts right, the bicycles should have right of way on the roundabout from cars both going in and out, and thus the bicycle gutter should be continuous all the way along, use your interchange marking tool to make it all the way around, and thus the marking tool contain shark tooth? Triangles? Give way sign painted on the road? They should be on the road on either side of the bicycle lane. If you're wondering what the difference between a cylcer and cyclist is; a cycler is a person who checks the route, what is the fastest and most convenient and if it's the bike, they'll take the bike, if it's not the bike they won't take the bike. Basically they're a cycler only when they are on the bicycle. A cyclist is someone who will bike come hell or high water, safety be damned even if kills them they will cycle. PS: Biffa, I have been suspecting something for a time now, and I went back and checked; you never hooked your damn into the grid, no power lines anywhere; result is that power isn't added to your city power.

Merry Ding Dong Biffa, I was at home waiting for some Biff mas Video last days...and here you are. Nice. At 33.50 min. the bikeway doesn´t look connected to the road yet. And did you switch on the bikefriendly everywhere? I wish you a happy new year and did you check the NZ Sky Stadium like you said?

I hope new zeland doesn't suffer from earth quakes or strong winds. Would be terrifying on that bike highway haha

gotta love some of these floating paths :D