How long do you think this issue was bugging the episode's writer? Like they’ve spent their whole life being irritated by Raiders and saw this as their opportunity to make everyone else feel their suffering?

@l0sts0ul89

3 жыл бұрын

Yep

@bonbonpony

3 жыл бұрын

Actually it's the writer's curse: the more you know about writing, the more plot holes you see in other people's stories, and boooy, there's soooo many of them in famous movies! :q But that's the thing: even if there are, they're still engaging stories. If they were flawless, they would be reality.

@rav3style

3 жыл бұрын

@@bonbonpony theres so many movies that I just plain can’t enjoy anymore. Also what you just explained also explains why critics end up disliking things common audiences love. They have trained themselves to see every little thing so most plots seem telegraphed or simplistic to them.

@bonbonpony

3 жыл бұрын

@@rav3style A good way out of this is for them to start writing their own, better stories. At least that's better than being a bitter and sad critic :q

@bonbonpony

3 жыл бұрын

@Mid Quacker Wut?

"He collected the ark and delivered it to the proper authorities, like a hero". I love when they all settle for that (delivery guy) and realize he even failed at that.

@kerryedavis

Жыл бұрын

It was enough that he took it from the Nazis. That means he wasn't irrelevant.

@brockragni1053

Жыл бұрын

Technically he did bring it to the school. Then some of the professors realized from what Indy said about it they decided to have it be studied by top men. So indy did do what he was supposed to do. LIKE THE HERO WE REMEMBER HIM AS.

@kerryedavis

Жыл бұрын

@@brockragni1053 I don't remember anything in the movie that the school got the ark first, and then turned it over to the gov for safekeeping.

@Iwillone

Жыл бұрын

@@kerryedavis I don't even think it was the Isreali government either

@SouthseaCavalier

Жыл бұрын

after what happened on the island isn't it wiser to hand it to the authorities than to the museum?

The comment section is like a real-life continuation of this episode.

@abdullahiqbal1110

3 жыл бұрын

I was reading it out in their voice and awwing when the story collapses

@xxxaragon

2 жыл бұрын

which is really unnecessary because it doesn't really matter. Hitchcock once answer, regarding the question why people in (his) movies don't involve the proper authorities: “They don’t go to the police because it’s dull.” and that applies here, too. even if the outcome was still the same, obviously it wouldn't have made for a great movie. Indy ATTEMPTING to stop the Nazis from finding and opening the ark is literally the point of the film (and why it's a fun adventure).

@chester0608ye

Жыл бұрын

@@xxxaragonand you also prolonged the conversation 😂

@TheJuliatedy

Жыл бұрын

LOL totally enjoying reading this entire clip comment section! Nicely put "real-life-continuation-of-the-episode" so funny , can't get bored reading all this exchange of knowledge ^_^

@gudinesangelicau

11 ай бұрын

agreed😂

This doesn’t ruin the story for me, it makes me rethink it. The Indiana Jones series follows Indiana Jones’ adventures. Even if he didn’t have an outcome on the plot it still is a good and enjoyable movie to me.

@krystalmayes7552

Жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly!!

I've never had a movie ruined for me in such a funny way

@joekaput747

7 жыл бұрын

Chuck Lee yes that saved one life. that doesn't stop the fact that the Nazis still would've died regardless. and if she died we wouldn't have gotten Shia as, well, that.

@stormbard

7 жыл бұрын

Without Indy the nazis would have gotten the plane to Berlin and opened the ark directly in front of Hitler, so... Indy saved his life... :/

@Djlullaby22

6 жыл бұрын

hahahaha

@fgetce

6 жыл бұрын

Actually the Germans planned to open the Ark in Berlin, infront of Hitler and would have broadcast this event all over the world killing millions of people when millions saw the Ark opened (at least those who bothered to watch the show). Remember on the island the poor guy looking through the movie camera recording the event? The power of god flowed right through the lens cooking him alive. Indiana Jones saved millions of lives by just being who he is...a selfish explorer looking for fortune and glory; so there Amy!

@joemckim1183

6 жыл бұрын

If they opened the Ark in front of Hitler wouldn't that kill their leader too?

For those who say they never would have found her without Indy, remember that the government only came to Indy because the Nazis were already looking for Abner. Given the scope of their resources, it is probably they would have found her anyway in time. That said, without Indy, the gestapo dude would almost definately have killed Marion. He saved her life. Like a hero.

@Agills-Photography

5 жыл бұрын

How would they have found her if they thought Abner was still alive in the US? They wouldn't have eventually found her before the Allies did because the scope of their technology is larger.

@seanbillington3287

4 жыл бұрын

@@Agills-Photography Face it, they would've found Marion in time.

@Agills-Photography

4 жыл бұрын

@@seanbillington3287 Can you actually explain how as I did with my argument, or are you just going to sit there splurting out vague statements that carry no merit. An insubstantial argument if I've ever heard it.

@seanbillington3287

4 жыл бұрын

@@Agills-Photography Why do you sound like a lawyer? It's just a movie

@Agills-Photography

4 жыл бұрын

@@seanbillington3287 deflecting, no real argument. Thank you for wasting my time and then yours.

There was a deleted scene that would've made up for Amy's point. Remember how Indiana told Marion to close her eyes when the Arc was opened? The deleted scene was an extended version of the medallion translation scene. The translator tells him there is a warning on the medallion that warns against looking at the Arc when its opened. So if Indiana wasn't there, the Nazis would've gotten the Arc, and might not have looked at the contents. Of course, it's possible they might not have heeded the warning.

@aaryashashi173

Жыл бұрын

thanks man for saving the franchise for me

@holister444

Жыл бұрын

"So if Indiana wasn't there..." well, that's enough, right? if Indiana isn't there, the story is obviously quite different since the story bares his name a he is on the screen 90 percent of the story.

@baxakk7374

Жыл бұрын

heeded of, heeded to, heed.. lol

@dand3953

10 ай бұрын

So, in the arc of the story, IJ kept the Nazis from getting the warning located on the back of the medallion. It is obvious that the Nazis had people who were at least as learned and insightful of LA lore as the allies had, and -- if seeing the warning -- would have at least had a contingent of archeologists waiting aside instucted to not look at the Arc or be in the immediate vicinity during that island stopoff investigation. To protect yourself, all you had to do was close your eyes. IJ kept the Nazis from being warned. Consequently, IJ was the right person at the right place at the right time. He was crucial in NG not getting the AotC as a weapon of victory.

@jurgenhabers9345

9 ай бұрын

They would have ordered half of the ppl with eyes open and half with closed, or simply have a 2nd troop waiting.

Who else thinks Leonard played a bigger role in ruining it than Amy? 😂

@purpletigress9000

11 ай бұрын

I still love the movie 😊

@WoodyWoodpecker19843

11 ай бұрын

@@purpletigress9000Who doesn’t?

@TWX27

9 ай бұрын

Me

As someone that loves Indiana Jones, this made me laugh so hard. She has a great point, but I'll still love the series.

@kerryedavis

3 жыл бұрын

Actually no, she didn't. Not with even a few seconds of thought. It was just something funny for the show.

@ace9924

3 жыл бұрын

The ark still would've been found by nazi's if indy wasn't there. They probably would realise that they lost contact with the base and would've sent a team there to investigate. They would deduce that the ark had something to do with it and would've shipped it to Germany. Indy basically saved the world by him getting involved

@andreserra4094

3 жыл бұрын

I mean same could be said about Infinity War. With or without the Avengers Thanos gets the stones and snaps half of the universe away.

@gandalfthegrey2592

2 жыл бұрын

@@andreserra4094 That's kinda the point of the movie though, different situation.

@ricksaburai

2 жыл бұрын

@@andreserra4094 that's a drastically different scenario. Thanos lost his entire army fighting the Avengers. You could argue that they failed, but they weren't irrelevant by any standard. Not to mention Endgame where it was them or nobody.

Sheldon, for being such an intelligent being, chooses his words... "poorly".

@j-mshistorycorner6932

4 жыл бұрын

He chose... poorly.

@Link2Hyrule25

4 жыл бұрын

he doesn't understand euphemisms

@zeokingsilver

3 жыл бұрын

@@Link2Hyrule25 among other things

@jbrisby

3 жыл бұрын

He doesn't understand what the X in X-Men stands for.

@stephaniegormley9982

Жыл бұрын

@@j-mshistorycorner6932 That was an 'easter egg' reference to "Last Crusade"

Actually the reason why Indy and the others put the ark in the warehouse was because they figured it was too dangerous to keep in a museum. So I think THAT deserves the "Like a hero!" line.

@PenStoryGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but he's not with the FDI he is a archaeologist. Literally it would have made worse because how would a government official would take a word off a random Mass archaeologist walking around with a big golden box. Hell you can make the argument that out of curiosity that will open it because they wouldn't believe a word some random guy said

@jscomputer1876

2 жыл бұрын

The argument for the putting it in the warehouse like a hero theory is: had Indy not been involved at all, the Ark would have remained hidden and buried because it’s too dangerous to keep in a museum. Awwwww…..

@kahkah1986

Жыл бұрын

@@PenStoryGaming He is the expert. He wouldn't have to say anything too extreme, just smother it in red tape, probably implying that ownership is in dispute. You could also imply the deaths were from toxic substances; this has stopped digs in China, as it would be dangerous to release toxic amounts of mercury and lead into the elements. There are a lot of artefacts in storage at places like the British Museum which would be too controversial to put on display for those kinds of reasons. The full undisclosed report he might file would be so classified; no-one would get to read it.

@Rowaenthe

Жыл бұрын

He didn't actually put it in the warehouse; the government suits did. If you look at the last scene in the film, Indy is adamantly against them putting it in storage and hiding it away because "They don't know what they've got in there".

@kahkah1986

Жыл бұрын

@@Rowaenthe I don't think he is considering using it as a museum display item, he is thinking more in terms of war and research. Presumably, though, his report is so dramatic, there is no way it won't get buried as Top Secret. It would of course have been the archaeological find of the century, on a par with Tutankhamun, had Indy published.

It wasn't exactly ruined because only Indiana Jones knew about the location of the medallion to begin with. Toht found out only by following Indiana Jones to the bar. Plus, Marion is living only because of Indiana Jones being there and telling her to keep her eyes closed which helped them 2 survive the Ark.

After pondering about how wrong Amy is I realize how right she is. And I think that just might be the point of the story. It's not about how our hero saves the day or how he stops the bad guy, but it's about how he grows as a character and saves the one person he cares about(at least until the next movies). So in a way it actually enriches the story a bit more. Thanks Amy.

@frankt9156

Жыл бұрын

Or the human brain can justify anything.

@adriancrevan

Жыл бұрын

Except in Lord of the Rings where the hero saves the whole world.

@76tennboy

Жыл бұрын

I’ve heard some people say that the second film is actually a prequel. I have no idea how or why people say that, but that is something I’ve heard.

@joedorben3504

Жыл бұрын

@@frankt9156 wow

@smb1522

Жыл бұрын

​@@76tennboy because it takes place in 1935, one year before the first movie.

Or the story isn't about the Ark at all, but about Indy realizing that maybe the mystical world does exist and it deserves a little respect. AND, it brings he and Marion back together again. The Ark has it's own agenda...Indy or no.

@h.rtheater8321

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, the ark is Merely a Mgcufiin for Indy's character Arc....

I'm pretty sure if Indy didn't go on the adventure Marian would have tortured, assaulted, and maybe even killed. He saved someone. I am pretty sure that is pretty important as well.

@gulenayturan351

9 ай бұрын

Which nazi followed indy to Marian 🥲

0:45 the way sheldon laughs is hilarious, jim parsons is such a good actor

The name “Indiana Jones” was never in the title of “Raiders of the Lost Arc”, but the name was in all of the other movie titles

@zanemarte9877

4 жыл бұрын

Not until the remastering of these movies.

@goranmilic442

Жыл бұрын

Because the movie is about Raiders (Nazis), not Indy.

@absolutamentenada3340

Жыл бұрын

The title "Raiders of the Lost Arc" was never in the film's poster. Actually, they wrote "Raiders of the Lost Ark"

@codenamelarry6518

Жыл бұрын

@@absolutamentenada3340 I appreciate you looking out for me :).

@matodragonespor5000

2 күн бұрын

I assume it was a similar case like Star Wars, that was called just Star Wars, but when it was a success and a sequel was made they added the "A New Hope", and when the precuels were being produced they added the "Episode IV"

This actually is something that occurred to me when I watched Raiders the first time. As compared to the next two films, Indy has no hand in defeating the villain. In both Temple of Doom and The Last Crusade, he very directly kills the villain while in Raiders he basically lucked out. It doesn't bother me much but it is true.

@gandalfthegrey2592

Жыл бұрын

Yeah noticed this too when I first watched. Indy is ultimately defeated and the villains take themselves out anyways. But like with you, its never bothered me nor do I consider it "a glaring story problem". Sometimes I'd be kinda pissed here, but its not a capeshit flick but just an adventure so I'm pretty open to what could happen and I'm just for the adventure and I like the twist anyways. Retrospectively, it also mirrors the prologue where Belloq just snatches away the golden artifact from Indy after going through all the trouble himself, just like what happens with the ark.

@canaanclb

Жыл бұрын

He doesn't kill the villain in Last Crusade.

@fascinatedbyeverything

Жыл бұрын

@@canaanclb The Last Crusade has the same "problem" (if the Nazis had gotten the grail it wouldn't have mattered since it doesn't work outside that cave...assuming they ever would pick the right grail in the first place)...except you can say he saved his dad. That may be what gave them idea of having his dad in it, I speculate.

@allthingsnerd.4484

Жыл бұрын

@@fascinatedbyeverything in fact, he specifically says to Kassim that he ISN’T looking for the Cup of Christ, but rather that he is looking for his dad. That’s the whole reason Kassim assists him with the info on where to find Henry Sr. The quest for the grail was actually his dads idea. Indy was going to go get Marcus but Henry insisted on going after the diary in Berlin and then the quest continued from there. Indy had no intention really of looking for the grail. He shouldn’t have brought the diary with him, but he was retracing his dads steps in order to try to find what happened to him. Henry never intended Indy to come after him.

@drake9634

Жыл бұрын

@@allthingsnerd.4484 also his dad isn't looking for the grail to take its power or something, but to truly prove that his entire life's work wasn't in vain, he goes so far as not even containing Indiana about help so he doesn't have to involve him, after capture Indiana of course goes after him

1:00 Anyone else notice Sheldon had watched it 36 times (Raiders takes place in ‘36) before Amy ruins it for him?

ERB anyone? I’ve seen the show but completely forgot about this part lol

I love how people start discussing this in the comments hahaha

@blade78

9 жыл бұрын

U're not the only 1!!! :D

@elviradup8597

5 жыл бұрын

jajajaajajaja yes!!!

@ninjamonkey508

5 жыл бұрын

I love how they're putting their own ideas and possibilities into it even if none of said ideas were ever mentioned or part of the movies plot

@aaronstark5060

5 жыл бұрын

It’s those kinds of banal discussions that make me reject the culture surrounding these movies. I can’t sit there and listen to shit like whether or not Uncle Owen would remember C-3PO without wanting to punch somebody. I can enjoy Star Wars, Indiana Jones and the likes, but Jesus are the dialogues about them trite.

@85Funkadelic

5 жыл бұрын

Probably because it's incorrect. That's kind of how ideas get hashed out by people talking about them. Don't feel bad you or any of your other supporters would have nothing to add anyway.

Indy's character development is what makes him important to the story. He starts the movie dismissive and doubtful of the legends surrounding the Ark. But by the end he knows not to look at it because he believes in its power.

Moot point. The Germans didn't know where Abner Ravenwood was. They needed Toht to follow Indy from the US to Nepal where Indy expected Ravenwood to be, but only Marion was there. They needed Indy. Could they have eventually found it on their own- possibly but by the time they were close, the war would have already started- end of search.

@mattpace1026

3 ай бұрын

Of course, all these pseudo-intellectuals are just going to ignore that. They love ruining fiction for everyone else, because they don't understand it and that infuriates them.

@Feuerherz55

15 күн бұрын

Exactly! The movies clearly shows Toth following Indy to Nepal. Therefore i assume, without Indy they would have not found Marion (or at least not as fast).

i love that leonard is the only one who did the "well actually"

0:08 My girlfriend's response to every movie she watches with me

@QuayNemSorr

5 жыл бұрын

Agent Other The exact reason I'm afraid to show my gf the Star Wars movies.

@Hanna-po6mt

5 жыл бұрын

Same but it's my boyfriend

@Djlullaby22

5 жыл бұрын

gut lol

@Liyingbemo

5 жыл бұрын

same here. oh wait, she left me

@magicUFO

5 жыл бұрын

Er war gut

I'd say Indie was very vital to the movie. Imagine how boring the story would've been without him.

@lucasoheyze4597

7 жыл бұрын

But the point is that all he need not have bothered doing any of the stuff he does.

@JeromeBeckett

6 жыл бұрын

They're not saying he's not vital for the enjoyment of the film, they're saying he's not vital for the outcome of the story.

@philipleworthy7871

6 жыл бұрын

And had he not have been in it there would be way more debates about why the film was part of the Indiana Jones franchise.

@anthonyarredondo9587

5 жыл бұрын

MyGamer125. Without indie it becomes a lovecraft-esque story. Evil seeks power the don't comprehend fully and are ultimately consumed by it.

@jeandonaghue2150

5 жыл бұрын

@@philipleworthy7871 if indiana wasn't in it then it wouldn't be an indiana Jones film so there would be no debate about it being part of the franchise

Never have I been so offended by something I 100% agree with

@kpowers

Жыл бұрын

Indiana Jones made sure the Ark did not fall into the hands of the Nazis

@sandal_thong8631

Жыл бұрын

@@kpowers Maybe you missed the ending. He had a chance to blow it up, but the Nazis got it and opened it.

@kpowers

Жыл бұрын

@@sandal_thong8631 Nope saw the whole movie. Stand by what I said

@scaryterry7614

4 ай бұрын

@@kpowers Why would that have been a bad thing? If they take the ark back to Nazi Germany and open it in front of the Nazi High Command, the angel of death would have wiped out the Third Reich in one fell swoop.

Epic Rap Battles of History brought me back to this clip 😅

@warchants

Жыл бұрын

“There’s a big bang you can’t hide in the fridge from.”

Indiana saved Marion and probably quite a lot of future people, since he and Marion were the only people who survived a magical WMD and likely gave instructions to the Allies to close their eyes, when using the Ark.

@cristincik91

3 жыл бұрын

that doesn't change what Amy said

@ilesalmo7724

3 жыл бұрын

@@cristincik91 Except the "Plays no role in the outcome of the story". The Ark would have stayed in the island and probably would have been found by other Nazis who were in control of the general area and would have wondered why a test-site was unresponsive. The final scene (outcome of the story) in the movie would have been different

@kariolm2579

3 жыл бұрын

Question is how ark would respond to being used as a weapon. After all, if the Ark is not some alien tech, then it's power is basically power of Jehovah, who would be very angry at people abusing his holiest relic like that and not at people who happen to be there accidentally. But then, he is a selfish, vindictive little bugger, so who knows.

@j.victordp885

2 жыл бұрын

@@ilesalmo7724 Not really Indiana Jones was the reason the Nazis found it. Without him they wouldn't find (never) it so it is worse to have Indiana Jones.l there. I am happy someone has said it because when I used to say it to my friends they didn't believe me. I am not a fan of Indiana Jones but I understand why people still don't care about this precious detail. The Big Bang Theory also has its flaws but I won't destroy it for anyone. The terminator is the worst of them and I still watch it even though it doesn't make sense at all.

@ilesalmo7724

2 жыл бұрын

@@j.victordp885 It's been a while since I saw the movie, but if I remember the movie correctly, the reason Indy found the Ark was because he had the jewlery which was in Marion's posession. the Nazis would have gotten it from Marion in the beginning without Indy being there, so they would have had better odds at finding the Ark. And they would have had more time to carefully comb the area.

Someone should get Spielberg & Lucas to do a new audio commentary to address this!

@ThePathStrider

5 жыл бұрын

Or a Director's Cut, assuming the kids from South Park don't try to stop it.

@thebandit0256

2 жыл бұрын

Cartman,Tweek, Stan and Kyle are the names

3:07 That's Indy's character arc. He learned of the true power the ark contained and knew that it shouldn't belong to those who would use it to further there own agenda, and so he had it locked up in the modern equivalent of an impenetrable tomb.

The moral of the entire Indiana Jones trilogy is that, *the more we value things outside of our control, the less we have control of.* This is not a plot hole; this is the underline genius behind the writing. Both sides Good and Evil failed to control events that are outside of our realm.

@blood.of.fenrir5575

Жыл бұрын

Hahahah, now it's a major plot hole. Try to make it smarter than it is. It was plot hole and it's just mindless fun.

@ernesthill4017

10 ай бұрын

Well said 👏

@luizpalombini3425

10 ай бұрын

@@ernesthill4017 Thank you.

I love this, and it doesn't take anything away from me enjoying Raiders.

@kristal6397

8 жыл бұрын

Personally, this makes me enjoy the movie more. In real life, people try to do their best with the hope that they'll make things better. It doesn't always work out that way, but we have to try regardless if we want any chance of positively influencing the outcome of a situation. Even if you accomplish nothing, what's important is that you had a chance of accomplishing something, and you took it. Since Indiana Jones can't predict the future, it would be insane for him to kick back and do nothing with the expectation that the problem would resolve itself. Some people would say "but he's a fictional character in a story, and the writer knew what was going to happen!", to which I'd say "sure, but that's my point; this outcome is more realistic than the outcome of your average cliche trope-filled ending". It makes Indiana Jones seem more like a person and less like some author's two-dimensional construct, and that's why I think the story is better this way.

@kerryedavis

8 жыл бұрын

+Krista L That's great for real life, not so great for a movie. Not for a book either, really. Publishers probably don't buy many manuscripts where the main character doesn't really end up having an effect.

@kristal6397

8 жыл бұрын

kerryedavis: That says more about the state of book publishers than it does about story quality, though. They want to stick with what they know sells; anything else is an unnecessary risk. That's why 99.9% of fiction is formulaic and adheres to all the same tropes.

@monsterlair

8 жыл бұрын

Krista L I think that is much more true for the film industry than book publishers.

@kristal6397

8 жыл бұрын

Obscene Vegetable Matter: Oh, definitely. At least publishers let that 0.1% through.

The only difference there would be without Indy is that Marion would have looked along with everyone else and gotten killed. I'm assuming that Belloq would have still held Marion captive but have gotten her sooner as Indy would have never saved her at the bar she was working at.

@brucetucker4847

9 ай бұрын

I don't think Belloq was at the bar. The evil Gestapo guy was just going to torture and murder her until Indy came back to fight him.

What Sheldon and Amy don't realize is that the movie isn't about the Ark. It's about Indy and Marion.

@Monkeytheluffy56

11 ай бұрын

But the title of the film suggests otherwise😂

@brucetucker4847

9 ай бұрын

@@Monkeytheluffy56 Does it? Aren't they the raiders mentioned in the title?

1:45 sheldon.exe has stopped working

Why are 90% of the comments here completely ignoring what was said in the video?

@alextalbain9269

6 жыл бұрын

Corey Messick exactly

@christianjaylibaton6854

6 жыл бұрын

And your comment is one of the 90%, as well as this comment. Even if with or without my comment and yours, nothing will change.

@Lue_Jonin

6 жыл бұрын

Phil Hutchinson Denial LOL

@kedabro1957

6 жыл бұрын

Because a woman was talking.

@ZuGa1384

5 жыл бұрын

Denial.

Lets review the facts. If Indiana did not get involved, the Nazis would not have been able to locate Ravenwood. It was through Indiana that they did. Hence why he was followed on the plane to help find the medallion. Point two. Originally, once the the Ark was found, it was originally going to be flown to out of Cairo directly to Berlin. Not sure what the outcome would have been, but it would have stayed in German hands even if another wrath of god took place. So due to Indiana's interference and the damage and trouble he caused, Belloche was able to convince the Nazis to test the Ark on the island to make sure the effort was just and that no more fuck ups would have taken place in front of Hitler.

@CrabTastingMan

7 жыл бұрын

Wow that meant, without Indy's involvement, Hitler could've opened the Ark in Berlin and millions of lives could have been saved way early on!

@gutz1981

7 жыл бұрын

CrabTastingMan I don't thing Hitler would be stupid or careless enough to open the Ark himself. He seems to be a character depicted as less spiritual than say Beloqe who did the traditional Jewish ritual before opening it. If Hitler believed the Ark to be the weapon he wanted for the war, I'm sure he would have had others open it away from him. It a way, he might have discovered the way to use the Ark was to not look into it as it was opened and found a way to exploit that for war. But then again, who knows.

@darkshadowryan

7 жыл бұрын

CrabTastingMan plus I'm sure the nazis would have checked it before going before there fur , so that way they knew what they were giving him

@10INTM

6 жыл бұрын

Oh, yeah, instead have the Nazis open it during a massive rally with Hitler and all the top Nazi brass present, probably ending the war right there. Much worse.

@10INTM

6 жыл бұрын

Frozen Warpcore What the hell kind of point is that? You're just assuming the behavior of _every_ Nazi who discovered it, ruling out the possibility of blind obedience? And _why_ would this theoretical Nazi think opening the ark would make him more powerful?

We don't watch Indiana Jones because of his impact on the chain of events but because he goes on cool adventures! He's gotta be the most interesting man on earth!!

@WoodyWoodpecker19843

Жыл бұрын

Albert Einstein: Hold my beer.

Fun fact: One of the whiteboards in the apartment in this episode has the same formula written on it as the one on Indiana Jones blackboard at the beginning of Raiders of the Lost.

Wow, i love how after Sheldon tells Leonard Howard and Raj Amy’s news, Leonard is always the one to prove Howard’s theories incorrect

I came back here after watching Epic Rap Battle of history between Lara Croft and Indiana Jones hehe

0:25 I love the way Sheldon phrased this,”I chose my words poorly” is 100% a Last Crusade reference

Wouldn't the ark still be in the hands of the Nazi's, though? At some point, they would go investigate the island, find everyone dead, pack up the ark, and discuss what to do next. In theory, they could still have used it as a weapon at later date.

She didn't ruin it, she just didn't understand. It's not the destination, it's the journey. Exactly the plot of TBBT as well.

@johnjackson8327

Жыл бұрын

Someone finally said it

@jduttskywalker

11 ай бұрын

Technically she was wrong about the destination as well. Even if Indy wasn't there and the Nazis opened up the ark and all died, what would have happened next? Well the ark would just be left sitting there alone on an island that was a Nazi base. Once Berlin realized they had lost contact with the base they would have sent a team to investigate and said team would have found the ark and taken it to Hitler. Hitler than could have learned it's ways and used it as a terrible weapon to wipe out his enemies just like was done in the Bible. However with Indy there, the ark was taken back to America and stored away, never to be used again.

@angelagriffin5130

11 ай бұрын

@@jduttskywalker I didn't mean that the way you thought I did. The Indy movies are about the journey. The same way TBBT was about the journey each character took. And btw, it never would have worked for the Nazis. The Ark is not a magic talisman. God will not be mocked or used. In some way, probably in some spectacular fashion the Nazis would have failed.

@gregorymoore2877

11 ай бұрын

@@angelagriffin5130 Exactly. The Ark is not a tool to be used however your want. It represents the presence of God. If Hitler got the Ark, Germany would have been cursed like the Philistines were. I suspect only Israel can use the Ark for anything and even then they would have to be in a right relationship with God.

@brucetucker4847

9 ай бұрын

@@gregorymoore2877 i was just about to say the same thing. The Philistines who captured it ended up giving it back to the Israelites because it only brought them plagues and misfortunes.

Lmao I will always love the Indy trilogy but this is HILARIOUS! 😂😂😂 “Like a hero!!!” and “just like they did.” lines were perfectly delivered. 😂😂💜💜

Funny episode, even though it's incorrect. By the way, for Indiana Jones fans, when the German agent tails Indy on the plane to find the headpiece, that agent is played by the screenwriter Lawrence Kasdan .

This is hardly a movie ruining factor, especially not a franchise ruining one

Actually, those two guys who came to the university hired Indiana to get the ark and bring it back to them so they could put it in the warehouse (without him knowing or they just decided to put it away at the last second). He thought that he was going to get it to bring it back to them, so it could be studied and put in a museum. Even though the Nazis still would've found the ark, taken it to the island, open it up, and all die, the two men actually still needed Indiana to get it from the Nazis, so Indiana Jones DID actually play a role in the movie. Those two guys either just lied to him about putting it in a museum, or they decided to put the ark in the warehouse at the last second.

@omnipop4936

Жыл бұрын

Seems like the question would then become: How did Indy get the Ark off of the island before any remaining Nazis (not in attendance at the brutal ceremony) could stop him? Because, if we theorize that Indy could've used an abandoned radio to contact someone to come to the island, _so could a surviving Nazi._ It's sort of a race against each other, which we're not privy to. We can only speculate.

@brucetucker4847

9 ай бұрын

@@omnipop4936 I agree, except without Indy, there would be no one who'd have any idea that the Ark was there, but the Germans would inevitably come looking for the missing U-boat and find the Ark. With Belloq no longer around they'd certainly just bring it back to Germany without opening it. I also figured there'd be other Germans left at the base but they had no idea Indy was there, and when they went to the site of the ceremony they'd find nothing at all (all the bodies disappeared), so it's not hard to imagine Indy sneaking the Ark off the island somehow.

Wait a minute! The Nazi would have never known where the medallion was without Indie because he led them to Marion!

@ct0760

8 жыл бұрын

+SailorSaturn143 no, they knew where she was without him, they just both happened to get there then

@ccccmhj

8 жыл бұрын

+ct0760 Noo, then why they followed indie? if they were aware where medallion was and if it wasn't for indie, the nazi would have not opened the ark in some random mountain probably in Berlin under hitlers presence.

@elizewyn

8 жыл бұрын

+cat Juwis +ct0760 I agree with you. They wanted to find Abner but had no idea where he might have been, they didn't even know that he was dead (granted, Indiana didn't know either until Marion told him) But Indie definitely led them to Nepal and to Marion, hence to the medallion.

@damianedwards7525

8 жыл бұрын

You can see Toht on the plane reading a newspaper. Is it possible that the germans allowed the communique to fall in american hands. Knowing that they would go to Jones, or his father, or maybe even Oxley who is my favorite character in the latest movie.

@zach25man4

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah but if Indiana didnt show up Marion would of died and Indiana jones 4 wouldn't happened.

I don't know - Indy still goes on a journey and is a different character by the end. He starts off as someone who doesn't believe in "superstition" but by the end recognizes that the only thing to do with the Ark is respect it and the supernatural power it represents. Indy's goal was to get the Ark but, the story's goal was to change Indy as a person 🤷‍♂️

WIE EIN HELD!!!

I honestly wouldn't mind watching Sheldon, Leonard, Howard, and Raj's reactions to "Raiders of the Lost Ark" entirely. I think it would be funny watching them realizing throughout the entire movie to see if Indy has no impact on the story.

I'm not much of a BBT fan, but this episode was great! I haven't watched that many, but if more of them were like this one I would have been hooked.

@Maxtrash69

Жыл бұрын

It's a great series and it's completed. I'd recommend to anyone. I personally love the show more times than not. 😅

The only reason the ark was taken to the island was because indy blew up the plane it was supposed to be carried on to be taken to berlin. Also, the nazis would have known not to look at the ark because they would have translated the headpiece (which is how indy knew not to look at it) if indy hadn’t saved marion

Indiana kept the Ark out of Germany. That was the most important part. Losing 100 soldiers was nothing to the Nazis. They would have tested it by having more expendable people open it to the point where they figured out not to open it. Having a university study it would have been just as problematic because the first thing they would have done is open it in the middle of NY or London or something equally stupid. Reburying it ultimately was the smartest thing.

She actually does make a good point and I love the Indiana Jones films.

@Haunted_Peru

5 жыл бұрын

So that means he ultimately did not fail.

I really enjoyed it. Especially when the four guys are in the midst about how Raiders was ruined.

A German guy was on the same plane as Indiana going to Nepal. It was there that Indiana got the medallion from Marion, and the image of the medallion was burned into the German’s hand. If Indiana and the German being on the same plane was a coincidence, then Amy was right.

@kyguy3242

10 ай бұрын

I know this is an old comment, but it makes more sense that the Nazis were tracking Indiana to the medallion's location, because why would they send an agent from Germany to the US and then to Nepal? They could've just flown directly to Nepal if they actually knew where to find Abner/Marion. Going to the US first seems like a totally unnecessary detour.

Incorrect. If Indy wasn't in the film, the Nazis would end up with the Ark after the end of the movie. Other Nazis on the island who weren't at the opening, or who come to the island later to find out why no one is responding open the Ark and get fried. More Nazis respond, process repeats. Eventually Hitler is present at one of the openings and gets fried. Hitler, less competent than his generals as a military strategist, was instrumental in not prolonging the war. If Hitler died, his generals would have done a better job of running the war, possibly repelling/delaying D Day, the war would have been prolonged, and more people would have died.

Without Indy: -Marion dies -Ark is opened in Berlin killing milions of people.

@Peer165

10 жыл бұрын

MrZithgal- Not true, first time she is saved is in her own bar. - Ark is opened on the Island in both cases yes, but without Indy there to claim it, it would land in the hands of the natzi's again who would then open it again in Berlin.

@luceo1406

10 жыл бұрын

Peer165 Okay, granted, without Indy Marion dies in the beginning. But that matters very little, as her death still wouldn't have changed the outcome of the story.

@VadersFist95

8 жыл бұрын

+Peer165 Ill correct that for you: Without Indy: Nazis dont know where to go. Tey follow Indy to the bar!

@Peer165

8 жыл бұрын

Joseph Gibbs LOL. I got nothing.

@sezza5365

6 жыл бұрын

How did indy know to close his eyes?

Indiana Jones is not great because of any great effect he has on the plot but because he can survive anything. He is the supreme adventurer, and that is heroism enough for me.

Indiana Jones may be irrelevant to the outcome of the story. However, the whole story is not irrelevant to the character development of Indiana. In Temple of Doom (that takes place before Raiders..) Indy is looking for fame and Glory. However, by the end of the Last Cruzade movie the character has evolved a lot. Raiders of the lost Arc plays a big role in that evolution.

Doesn’t change my mind in how much I love Raiders of the Lost Ark. It still among Spielberg’s best movies and is still to my eyes the best one out of the five movies.

it doesn't matter I still like the movie

I agree with you Josh White. It all depends on your interpretation of the character, Indiana Jones. You can either see him as an archeologist on an adventure with an opportunity to discover a long lost relic, or as a hero who is supposed to save the day. Indiana Jones never said he wanted to prevent the Nazis from getting the arc. He said discovering the arc is the main reason why he got into archeology in the first place. So good job Josh White and GreenGoblinsOckVenom!

I know this is a sitcom, but still... Indiana Jones playing no part in the plot is not a story problem. An inconsequential hero is not a story problem.

@kungfufemafam9216

9 ай бұрын

Yes it is. Like talking about a dessert with no flavor

I will always love (most of) the Indians Jones franchise but this is one of the most brilliant bits the show ever did.

Well they were going to put the arc on the flying wing and fly it to Berlin, but instead Indiana Jones destroyed the flying wing, so therefore he saved Hitler

@Name-gp8xf

7 жыл бұрын

LIKE A HERO

@littlejake2838

6 жыл бұрын

Yes i agree, Beloch is told the ark is being flown straight to Berlin, but Beloch wants to test Hitlers prize to c if it works. So the statement Amy says is that the Nazis take it to the island and open anyway, without Indy destroying the plane the ark wouldnt be on the island.

@sce2aux464

5 жыл бұрын

(facepalm) Way to go, Indy....

And here is the problem. The Nazi's would maybe have found the Ark over time. The fact they had the wrong coordinates for the Well of Souls was a big problem. Perhaps they would have just given up and called the location a failure. But let us assume that they find the Ark. The first thing the Nazi's wanted to do was fly it to Berlin. NOT take it to the island. The island ONLY came into play when they were forced to bring it there after the Ark was put on the submarine. And yes opening the Ark would have still killed everyone on the island but the Nazi's would have still come for it and had possession of it. Without Indy's interference the Ark would never have been on the island in the first place nor would it have been in American hands at the end of the film.

@subramanyaswamy1165

10 жыл бұрын

Belloq plans to test the power of the Ark before presenting it to Hitler. With or without Indy, Belloq would have opened the Ark to test it Indy takes it to America for the purpose of studying it. He doesn't do it either. It was like, they dig open the Ark and hide it again.!!

@thomasblaine3193

6 жыл бұрын

They opened it on the island as a precaution to avoid embarisment in front of Hitler. The last part i always imagined it being late in the war and the island was over taken by the allies.

It’s actually way worse than they even think. If Indy hadn’t blown up the plane that was supposed to take the ark straight to Berlin, Hitler would have opened it and been melted, so really, Indy kind of started WWII.

@brucetucker4847

9 ай бұрын

There's no guarantee Hitler would have been there personally. He never attended any of the V-2 tests, nor did Truman (or anyone from the White House) show up in person for the Trinity test.

Indy was the one that made archeology cool again. How many little boys and girls watched Raiders and decided one day to professionally become the finders of rare antiquities. As others in the comments have said, he saved Marion, got with Marion later, and made a Mutt (I think that was Shia LaBeouf's character's name) who was key in making the movie that destroyed the Indiana Jones franchise. . . AWWWW.

Sheldon really didn't have cause to be upset by Amy's observation because he urged her to explain herself regardless that she was aware how much he loved the movie and tried to keep criticism to a minimum.

Love this show, he has such a cute funny, nerdy, smart personality ❤️

Actually Leonard the reason how the Nazis were able to find the medallion was because they followed Indy to Marion Ravenwood. They thought Abner had the medallion but didn’t know where he was nor even knew he was dead so if Indy never was in the story, the Nazis would’ve kept digging until they hit the center of the Earth and probably flew back to Germany embarrassed in front of Hitler. So Indy actually did kind of have a hand in the story

In the absence of I.J. - after the fatal opening of the ark - the remaining crew on the U-Boat would have eventually investigated, scooped up the ark and taken it to Berlin.

makes me want more movies where the person we follow isn't directly tied to the outcome but more like a POV

@1987MartinT

7 жыл бұрын

I wonder how many there are already.

@MorliHolect

3 жыл бұрын

Terminator 3 Rise of the Machines

@jonathanoxlade4252

3 жыл бұрын

Indiana jones is made up but hilarious as he'll

@theawesomebat1244

2 жыл бұрын

War of the Worlds and Cloverfield

@farlonmuentes6004

Жыл бұрын

@@theawesomebat1244 idk but those two movies are different because in indiana jones, they made it seem like he was the one stopping them and the hero of the story and just then realized that he really doesn't have to do anything. war of the worlds and cloverfield is more about regular people surviving an invasion. it's like we, the audience are being portrayed in the movie.

Good thing my favorite is Temple of Doom. The only film where Indy's actions matter. Not to mention it was the only film where he went through a character arc/development.

@ace9924

3 жыл бұрын

the ark still would've been found by nazi's if indy wasn't there. They probably would realise that they lost contact with the base and would've sent a team there to investigate. They would deduce that the ark had something to do with it and would've shipped it to Germany. Indy basically saved the world by him getting involved. And also the nazi were looking for abner's daughter and they eventually would have found and the nazi would have killed her.

@WoodyWoodpecker19843

Жыл бұрын

Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom is awesome but damn, it is brutal!

@brucetucker4847

9 ай бұрын

Indy's actions always matter. He saved Marion. He saved his father. And in doing both he saved himself. The archaeological treasure he's looking for is just a McGuffin. And he goes through significant development in Raiders - he goes from disbelieving all "superstitious nonsense" and thinking of the Ark as nothing but a (potential) museum piece, to understanding its true nature and how hideous a danger it is to people who would seek to exploit it for their own ends.

I mean Amy's right, but that wasn't really the point of the story. The real point of the story was the metaphysical journey where Indiana learned to believe in a higher power beyond what he could comprehend as well as learning to love and value the human beings around him. That's the real story of Raiders of the Lost Ark and Indy wound never have learned all that if he didn't go on this amazing adventure. That adventure is why taught him to be a better person. It was never about the Ark, it was about Indy's character _arc._

Sometimes heroism is like that. Sometimes a hero is thwarted again and again and sometimes has to face the seeming fact that his efforts are futile because they have not accomplished anything. But Indy did deliver the Ark. And don’t ever discredit the value of getting the girl! 😘❣️❤️

I think I can disprove Amy's claim! Indy moved the plot further along. The Nazi's followed him to find Marion, they would have been digging for a much longer time if they didn't notice Indy digging in the right place, and a few characters such as Marion would have been killed if it weren't for him!

@geedub88

2 жыл бұрын

No, he just moved it along quicker. They saw Indy digging in the right place, dug there, got the Ark, and still died.

@bryanegelhoffsanimationtec257

2 жыл бұрын

@@geedub88 yeah, but several characters would have died if Indy wasn't around. Namely Marion.

@geedub88

2 жыл бұрын

@@bryanegelhoffsanimationtec257 There's that, but whether people survived or not, the story still would have played out Indy could have just been an innocent bystander saving Marion for all the story is concerned about.

@brucetucker4847

9 ай бұрын

@@geedub88 No, no one but the Nazis knew where the secret sub base was, so without Indy they would have gone looking for the missing crew and found the Ark and taken it to Germany. Who knows what would happen then, probably disaster for the Nazis, but the point is the outcome would have been completely different.

@geedub88

9 ай бұрын

@@brucetucker4847 it was a disaster for the Nazis though. They melted. They still found the Ark, opened it, and died.

Who was the genius that wrote this episode? It's brilliant!!!

This point is completely valid in retrospect, but neither Indy nor the Nazis knew that the ark would destroy anyone who tried to use it. What’s more important is the heroic goal to stop them from ever opening it. Just because there’s a chance that a higher power might intervene and destroy the bad guys doesn’t mean that the good guys should do nothing to stop them. There might have been a chance that when they opened the ark that it didn’t kill them and that it instead gave them the ultimate power. So I don’t think it ruins the plot and stakes from what the characters and what you as a viewer know and feel at the time of watching. You feel all the stakes and tension up and until the ark’s power is finally revealed. The most important point is that Indy was heroic in intervening in the chance that evil did manage to get away with ultimate power. Yes they would have been destroyed had he not intervened anyway, but what matters is that a hero stepped up and did something in the chance that instead of destroying them, it was in fact the ultimate weapon. The point is you do the heroic and right thing no matter what - you are proactive and don’t just hope that everything will work out - you have to make the choice to take action! That’s what Indy stands for - taking action in a universe where actions may not matter in the grand scheme - but still you do them simply because it’s the moral and right thing to do!

They cut a scene from the movie where the amulet say to not look inside the ark, witch they would have killed Marion to get. Indian saved Marion, and taken the ark back to the US. And the failing of this scenario in the TBBT is that the ark is on a nazi island with a U boat base that suddenly went quiet in the 1930s, other nazis would have found the ark and taken it back to Germany. This alone without any of the previous information proves that Indiana is essential in obtaining the ark for the us.

How many of y’all are here from ERB 😂

Hey this was actually funny. I'm impressed, most of Big Bang Theory after the first season, especially the first few seasons, bores me.

@goranmilic442

4 жыл бұрын

Season 5 was the last good one for me. But this was good. Amy is a terrible and unnecessary character, but this is a redemption for her.

@user-fe1le2yl3x

3 жыл бұрын

@@goranmilic442 she ruined the show for me and Sheldon was never the same ever since she appeared ...

@goranmilic442

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-fe1le2yl3x This moment was one of only few moments where Amy wasn't terrible. But generally I agree with you.

“That’s one Big Bang you can’t hide in the fridge from.”

Indy actually helped the villains. They didn't know where Abner Ravenwood was, he took them right to his lair in Nepal.

The medallion wouldve been entombed in the bar's rubble, Toht only having one side. By the end of WW2, the nazis would leave egypt and the ark remains. 2) Salah - knowing the ark shouldnt be found and was hired by the nazis, wouldve stepped up and botched their plans. He even proved this in Crusade. Salah is an ultimate plan B which we never needed

@theeradic5629

2 жыл бұрын

Would he have? he had plenty time before and never did

@TheBarricade32

2 жыл бұрын

@@theeradic5629 he got hired by the nazis days before Indy's arrival. Salah isn't an educated historian like Indy.

Imagine the director thinking of the story for this episode. He musta been shocked himself 😂

Yeah this didn’t ruin it. The movie is not about getting Ark, it’s about Indiana Jones adventures and his growth as a character. I really feel like this whole argument doesn’t effect my viewing of the movie. It’s super fun

Pretty sure it's Indy who leads the allies to the Lost Ark and therefore allows the Ark to fall into the hands of the allies instead of the Axis, who would of learned the power it holds after seeing their officer dead from it. They would have taken it and possibly turned it into a weapon or something, but instead the Allies have it at the end meaning no else will get hurt. Indy's job wasn't to save the world, he just get artifacts, and that he succeeded on.

Putting all the scenes together makes it even more funny! Love it! Even if it did ruin my childhood.😂😂

Amy is wrong about the movie, Indiana Jones is essential because the movie is about him!! and the other "Raiders" (the other people) searching for the ark, not the ark itself. The title is after all "RAIDERS" of the Lost Ark (aka: Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark). The Ark of the covenant is just a plot device (a mcguffin) that drives the characters in the story.

Maybe that was the entire point - much like the stormtroopers missing intentionally because they put a tracking device on the ship - perhaps the point of the story was that he actually didn't contribute at all.

I mean the Nazis would have had little reason to open it on an island. By Indy interfering he probably actually prevented the deaths of many more Nazis due to them opening it at a more private and secured location.

ERB got me here.

Uh, that doesnt exactly ruin the whole franchise. It only "ruined" Raiders.

@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421

4 жыл бұрын

This problem is in every one of them except Temple.

@jrimundo787

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah but his presence isn't exactly vital to any of the movies, though it's arguable that isn't true for Temple of Doom since he does technically save people and stop the cult but in Last Crusade Nazi's still would have chosen the wrong grail and died, in kingdom of the crystal Skull Soviets still would have gotten to the city of gold and the Aliens still would have killed them

@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421

4 жыл бұрын

@@jrimundo787 that's what I said

@fei8151

3 жыл бұрын

I dont like raiders so i dont care

Honestly, this episode is wrong: 1. Marion would have died if Indy wasn't there. 2. It's Indy's fault that they landed on the island in the first place. 3. It was a good thing that Indy had it put in storage instead of taking it to be studied, he realized the danger.

@corey1054

2 ай бұрын

The Nazis wouldn't have found Marion though if it weren't for Indy. When Indy gets on the plane to Nepal there's a guy tailing him.

@videogollumer

2 ай бұрын

@@corey1054 That only proves Amy's even more wrong.

Well the trouble is Indy DID contribute to the plot. The Nazis followed him to where Marion Ravenwood was. Also without Indy, at the end, who knows who would have ended up with the ark?