Second comment I know, but now that I've gotten around to watching the whole video I have some corrections to make for the audience (as someone on the dev team myself, albeit an SFM artist specifically) that I hope you wouldn't mind. At least where it matters most, so apologies for the wall of text. And feel free to inform me on anything I miss myself 6:06 There's also "Mercenary Domination" as the other mainstay as later mentioned at 11:30, which is pretty much what you would expect. It basically functions similarly, if not identical to, domination in tf2c where the more points you hold the faster you reach the score limit. Mdom is one of my favorites personally speaking. TDM would also be more fun if servers had a more appropriate player cap for the maps available imo, which are usually made for 12-16 players on FFA for reference. There's also "mpush" in which someone has to capture the neutral flag at the opposing team's base rather than retreating to your own. It's pretty much like the original gamemode in tfc. There's Infection which isn't considered a gamemode iirc but is still expansive, in which the zombie team (blu) has to infect all of the survivors (red) or they lose, much like in the Halo games. It's also possible to play stock gamemodes like CP or PL but those are unofficially supported and not advised. So really, there's still a surprisingly amount of variety for an "Open Alpha" even if FFA is by far the most played (since its easy to get games going there.) 7:12 Arsenal is what is called a "mutator" in AFPS rather than a separate "gamemode" in the same vein as CTF or Domination. These can be thought of as mini "rulesets" that change up gameplay beyond what is expected for the stock gamemode. Arsenal is one example but other examples include Instagib, Gun Game, Unholy trinity (Rockets, Rail, and LG w/ infinite ammo.) This means that you can have a round of Arsenal playing CTF or Instagib on MDOM 7:52 Not really a correction, but part of the reason why CTF is actually tolerable is also because of "return on touch." This means that if a flag is dropped, someone can instantly return said flag to their base simply by standing on it. This is also common in other afps games ive played such as Quake Champions, since its a much better fit for this sort of pacing rather than waiting for minutes like in tf2. 9:32 I want to confirm that yes, this wiki is unofficial and probably hasn't been updated for years. For example, Mercenary is from New York City canonically, not Nevada (and I'm pretty sure the wiki creator -who I won't name- claimed that this was their head canon that they decided to stick with) 9:48 While there are MGE rulesets available for "Duel" as an option, it's more than that. Namely because item control is even more important in duel than it is in the more mainstream modes. So to make it quick, the emphasis on strategy is more important than one would realize rather than purely homing in on your raw DM skill. Like in MGE, some people choose to play with a frag limit, but the preferred method is to play to a time limit. This is partly because (at least speaking from experience) snowballing is duel is frequent, so you never know when someone takes back control of power positions and items. Typically 10 minutes is the standard in all of the quake-likes i've played (QC, QL, Reflex Arena, Doombringer, CPMA) 11:58 This Hightower variant is a community made port, though with all the maps OF is getting from both the official team and community I can see the mix-up. 15:18 Personally I think this would be overkill alongside other suggestions imo. I think kritz are fine as is, or at the very least theres no plan on changing any of the powerups substantially after reflecting was added to the berserk powerup. Powerups are meant to be super powerful as you've mentioned, as you're supposed to time their spawns, or at the very least fight over them, basically a reward for picking your fights well leading up to that point. I noticed that too many new players just ignore kritz for example 20:00 I too take issue with how easy the gatling gun can be. Though that mainly lies within the fact that most servers (at least the most popular ones I play here in the US) have "weapon stay" enabled, which means that weapons don't have to respawn after being picked up. That, and weapon spawns give you only around 50% of a weapon's max ammo pool by default (with some exceptions such as the LG.) The gatling gun was designed with an ammo economy in mind, as instead of focusing on just individual kills, you're supposed to treat it as a "room clearer" while collecting more ammo boxes that way (In OF, players drop small ammo boxes instead of medium ones like in TF2.) So some servers just bypass the ammo penalty entirely. Weirdly enough it was probably one of the harder weapons to design both from a visual and gameplay perspective, as one could easily make the minigun equivalent feel too underwhelming for what it is. 25:14 The rocket launcher actually has a smaller blast radius and a smaller ammo reserve (16 instead of 20) but I can see how easy this would be to miss 26:34 Before the Chainsaw was able to trimp like you would in TF2, but the "airstep" mechanic (allowing you to climb up small ledges passively, making movement feel even better) inadvertently broke it. Though this is being worked on All in all, I still am a big fan of the effort that did go into this video, and of course the attention is appreciated as always

@PartyPugTV

3 ай бұрын

Really imformative thank you so much for posting this!

@funnydotyes

3 ай бұрын

you forgot about the saw ballista

@Stachekip

3 ай бұрын

well-written and informative post as usual blamo 😄

@danielsurvivor1372

3 ай бұрын

If you ever add Assault gamemode from Unreal Tournament 2004(the gamemode where theres mini story about a map where attacking team does objectives to finish the map while defend team tries to stop em) then I think i'd be worth checking out and more people will check out open fortress, but for now Classic is just more accessible and feels more like tf2... Theres a reason devs nerfed bhopping in tf2 and never added deathmatch gamemodes, because they dont represent tf2 vibe 8:04 Although it IS nice you guys never added bloody sentries, those things shouldve never appeared in tf2... I mean maybe if u copy the gamemodes and unlocks from tf2 into open Fortress, maybe it would be worth playing JUST for no sentries vibe. 22:04 NOT nice you brought back sniper rifles xd

@Jellycat23143

3 ай бұрын

eatming froof llops

This mod feels like what's going on where the 9 mercs aren't currently deployed. Like as though it was a map "from beyond the fence." On a battlefield beyond the skyboxes of any tf2 map where the 9 mercs are currently fighting.

@MinecraftSteve-fe9kq

3 ай бұрын

Does anyone even play it? Last time I tried to play it, there was 1 server with like 11 players in it

@Honza67382

3 ай бұрын

@@MinecraftSteve-fe9kq dunno. I don't play it.

@viscera_atrocity

2 ай бұрын

It's Team Citadel :)

@Mate_Antal_Zoltan

23 күн бұрын

the mod takes place after the events of TF2, in the mid-70s

That double barreled shotgun got me acting up

@user-qz1ic3vb8h

Ай бұрын

AirPods shotty

Bro you're not gonna believe this but I'm the Dave that made Trade_Dave_Portal mentioned at 2:06 I appreciate the enthusiasm for the map lmao, but I've made better things

@PartyPugTV

3 ай бұрын

AYO NO WAY!!!

@userfromspace8952

3 ай бұрын

THE LEGEND HIMSELF 😱💥

@BadNameJackson

2 ай бұрын

Yo I used to play that all the time!

@nickblake8767

2 ай бұрын

Whens trade_daniel_portal coming out?

@notdaveordaniel9711

2 ай бұрын

@@nickblake8767 2077

As an OF regular 7:41 brought out some suppressed memories. Dare I say ArenaFPS as a genre was everything I was looking for, as I was burning out on TF2 back in 2019, though thankfully I can enjoy both now

@gordonfreeman7187

3 ай бұрын

onlyfans???????????

@barrylemington

Ай бұрын

@@gordonfreeman7187 lol yeah thought the same thing

@generalolivervonbismarck393

Ай бұрын

HANK, HANK DONT SHORTEN ONLY FORTRESS TO OF. HAAAAAANNNNKKKKKK

4:13 made me smile so wide I had to leave a tip.

@PartyPugTV

3 ай бұрын

holy thank you so much!!!😭😭

pre-fortress 2!

@Arctic.2007

3 ай бұрын

yes

@Multi1

3 ай бұрын

What he said at the beginning would make it post-fortress 2.

@user-qp3uu5vd8v

3 ай бұрын

0 players

@CharaGonzalez-lt7yw

3 ай бұрын

Mid

@NotABean_

3 ай бұрын

pre-cum 2 lmfao

This is a great collab and surely underrated video You guys made me really interested in both mods and you, Pug, did such an awesome work on sfm parts! Feels like more work was put in this video than it deserved, but it will pay off at such pace Great video, +subscriber

Your video brought so much live into the game. I only started playing this game this year and i've never seen servers being so populated

@PartyPugTV

3 ай бұрын

❤❤

10:30 Love how you put Zenith in there multiple times lol

@brkenalex8657

2 ай бұрын

He really wanted to show his superiority but he didn't have to do Zenith dirty like that

4 Weeks later game is back to having 5 people playing

Holy crap, this video is really good. Good editing, and scripting, and all the other things that went into the video. Keep up the good work mate!

bro this is so high quality wtf??? the game, too, yea

Watching this on my iPaid! Good work!

GahDAYUMN this was a good video. Came from the TF Classic vid and this got recommended at the end. Definitely worth the watch. Subbed 👍

You make fun energetic slightly edge content, keep up the good work

First time looking at your channel (a lot of love in it as I see) so I can't wait to see you in BOTH games (I came fro the other vid - tf2 classic, love ya so much rn

I love this aggressive ass commentary lmao

You guys doing some great PR with the cross referencing videos

24:33 is by far my favorite part of the video you ranting about how shit pipe jumping is had me laughing so hard

18:03 MA THATS ME

@Nerty1458

3 ай бұрын

ok did you have to include 30 seconds of me getting fucking dystryoed by the minigun

@ziphy_6471

3 ай бұрын

It's him!

10:26 Damn…he got me again.

no wonder why this took so long, masterpiece

26:02 Ah yes my favorite medieval job: KPFGHT

damn pre-fortress 2 changed a lot since i last played (ok but fr, despite deathmatch games not being my vibe at all, i can admit that open fortress is such a high quality game, and i hope it continues to improve and succeed.)

I feel like the open fortress team could make a mode where the original tf2 mercs return and are now like Saxton Hale in the VSH mode but with their own abilities tying to their tf2 counterparts. The tf2 mercs could also look older and have different appearances.

Time to go install this again

It's been too long since I've played this game, going to head back to it. I remember Open Fortress being a lot of fun with a really solid core gameplay. :)

oh cool! the yearly open fortress necro!

pre-fortress 2 : )

as someone who plays this regularly for my TF2 fix nowadays, it's a perfect game for longtime veterans of the series and even newer players to expand further upon their mechanical skill and discover a whole new way of playing FPS. Being a long-time 2007 veteran and having TF2 be my main shooter for years, playing Open Fortress exclusively for a solid year has made me find myself continuing to find out new ways to approach gunfights, switch between offensive and defensive play with more strategy, control map areas and resources, mastering your weaponry, being able to discover all kinds of weapon combos to utilize and all sorts of other tech you'd find exactly from other arena shooters out there. yet, modern FPS players refuse to even touch arena and deny themselves further skill expression by playing only what they know they're good at. It's a crying shame not many play the game either due to them feeling intimidated from the heightened skill ceiling (that or running into the more skillful regulars and getting pubstomped for a couple of matches), or that most new players don't stick around long enough due to being bored with deathmatch being the main mode everyone gravitates to. however, all of the Open Fortress long-time regulars, like myself, have the exact same positive and welcoming energy as TF2C's group of regulars that frequent it, always happy to introduce people to the game and give them help/tips where it's needed and generally be fun people to play a few games with. It's worth sticking around for the long haul, because the community is what truly makes this game shine the brightest in my eyes, let alone being an extremely high-quality mod worthy of standing on its own.

Man I love Fishonastick, but holy shit he yaps sometimes

@imwhoast

3 ай бұрын

This is actually so real. I enjoy watching the guy but at times he just seems so unlikeable. Feels like he spends 3 seconds for every 1 second trying to gas himself up.

@Mate_Antal_Zoltan

23 күн бұрын

the CIA probably makes Afghans watch him talk about the Scorch Shot in Guantanamo Bay, God he can be fucking annoying sometimes

@imwhoast

23 күн бұрын

@@Mate_Antal_Zoltan I've actually stopped interaction with the TF2 community because of partly this and some other things. A lot of people in the TF2 community are people who do things "For the funny" (Even though they repeat the same jokes for years on end). TF2's community should be talked about or explored more, it's one of the most self-destructive communities I've ever seen (Consider the bot crisis) all because they think it's funny. The community is either people who think they're funny or "know-it-alls" trying to act smarter than everybody else.

@cato2k182

23 күн бұрын

@@Mate_Antal_Zoltan Yeah it's just like pure evidence that TF2 content creators that focus on stuff like that are just running out of stuff to talk about. The funniest one was him saying the FaN is bad, when everyone uses it because it's fun to make them fly away. TF2 youtubers like that can't imagine that people use weapons they consider "bad" just because they're fun to use.

@Mate_Antal_Zoltan

23 күн бұрын

@@cato2k182 "durrr it's bad because you can't land your second shot!!! it shoots the enemy away it actively hinders you!!" my whimsical ass not giving a fuck and laughing at the Sniper flying out of the window for the 724th time:

pre-fortress 2

this game looks sick. also cool indii shoutout

retromode sounds like alot of fun, it would be so cool to see a tf2 vs tfc server

never been so early to a partypug video, HYPE!!!

@PartyPugTV

3 ай бұрын

THANK YOU INFO HAZARD !!!

I really liked CTF in this game, especially that map where you basically launch yourself to dunk in the enemy team's goal, and then of course it explodes.

Idea for the minigun. It deals knockback to its user to. You can’t b-hop and shoot at the same time, cause you’d go flying backwards

@PartyPugTV

Ай бұрын

my friend had this idea aswell and honestly i think that'd be the perfect fix

This mod was the tf2 mod i was the most good at, it's was right in my comfort zone since before i ever got to experience tf2, i played games like tfc and deathmatch classic cause of my at the time, somewhat weak PC. It's was so refreshing! Enjoyed bhoping all over the map, hearing the half life 1/tfc announcer voice again! Using the double barrel and ahh man, the gore, it's beautiful! Truly one of the greatest mods of all time!

All the big tf2 youtubers need to see this

ok fuck it, that char customization made my mind, i will play it

Hey Party! Thanks for reminding me to re-download this game, when they went dark, I forgot all about it. I had no idea they picked back up. Here's some snippets I figure you might find interesting: When you were comparing Quake/Diabotical's movement to OpenF's, I think the truth is somewhere in the middle! Source Engine games like TF2 inherit their airstrafing directly from Quake 1's code, while later Quake games tried to patch out that kind of movement to what you know now. You'd probably find Quake 1's movement and weapons more fun in Deathmatch. If you wanna see what I mean, maybe round up your friends in the remaster on Steam: just get an idea of each of the weapons first. If you like games like Doom, the singleplayer is a fun romp, too. For Quake Live's older graphics, it started life as a free to play, browser-based version of Quake 3 from 1999. In its heyday, it was super accessible, introducing a lot of people to Quake and AFPS in a free browser game that almost any computer could run well. Sadly, since going to Steam, it dropped both the browser and free parts and the casual crowd moved on to newer, shinier things. Beyond that, it's still Quake 3 at heart. Anyway, have fun! I'll see you out there.

this looks absolutely amazing

This game is dk dedicated to classic shooters, it ripped the parry projectile mechanic from it's fellow game but in the name of single player, ultrakill, and into the berserker.

"You Hold Left You Go D"

Hes back. Goated youtuber extremely underrated.

10:26 great music choice

I'm surprised the all class mode wasn't mentioned it goofy but fun

Im checking this out when i wake up

35:03 dawg what is going on wtih that medigun lmao

oh hey theres archie

5:56 THERE I AM GARY THERE I AM!

I’ve watched this video like 4 times now & it still hasn’t gotten old, really well made.

Started playing it yesterday, this game is amazing

One thing about the custom color palette is that people can choose really dark colors and blend in with night time maps so you cant see them very well

@Mate_Antal_Zoltan

23 күн бұрын

this is what the tennis ball color palette option is for, it makes every merc bright white and green so they're all visible

You know what this game needs? Mechs

This is so open

10:26 Guys I think he beat zenith in MGE

4:14 one of the most based transitions I've seen

they should make a battlefront type game mode where its a big map and lots of objectives to do and after enough points you can become a buffed up TF2 merc until you die like in battlefront

Quake Live is a tweaked version of Quake 3 from 1999.

super sayan 4d goes hard

You actually madd me open OF again as soon as i saw your vid posted. It was luying around in my library for years now. It would be good and all ut the only populated server was hella custom one with some randomizer loadouts. And you appear roking fucking shadow pfp fraggin out. My doo doo fart reflexes needed to become accostome to insane pase of OF and first time in years i launch it i get ton of random weapons like rapid fire shotgun that cant be stopped firingand half of the time randomized would give me two pistols and fucking pipe. Thanks man. you made me remeber that awesome mod. See ya on the battle field

The free hats made me get this game.

Finally have someone to play open fortress with 😃

what's the transition song? ii swear i heard it way back in 2016 but never knew the name

I installed it and got to play it a few times during the bot crisis (which is still ongoing). It was a breath of fresh air and it actually was fun. Unfortunately there are little to no players. You have to be online during your local rush hour to play with like 10 or so people, if you play in the evening you have to settle for high ping servers which have the same amount of people.

@xAnononAx

Ай бұрын

There is also a zombie-tag gamemode.

@PartyPugTV

Ай бұрын

There's been more lately, I look in the discord they have a server list that updates so you can see whos on at any time

back then there was a huge hype abt this game, i played a lot, and the main reason was the bhop. it was amazing.

I was going to try out Open Fortress, but upon downloading it I received a notification that said "This file contains malware" :/

@colbyboucher6391

Ай бұрын

It does not. Windows will tell you that it MAY contain malware, probably because it doesn't have a license from Microsoft (yes, that is a thing). Windows is just paranoid as hell.

Open fortress has so much spunk and style, i wish valve would actually promote the title

The best TF2 video that not enough people watch

I want that open fortress

There’s an additional game mode that you didn’t mention called infection. You never see people running it all that often because it’s at the bottom of the legacy server creator’s options.

@PartyPugTV

2 ай бұрын

1 regret i have about this video after releasing it is that there is so many mutators i didn't get a chance a play cause the only server that was EU and had people on it didn't run mutators... However, since the video so many people have started playing on new servers that have mutators! There's so many fun ones i've played now that I never got to talk about...

tbh out of all the quake clones, i feel OF is more closer to WarFork. easier strafing, more attention with movement because of the wallbounce, it feels pretty smooth to play.

I hope this video gets more people to join me in my favorite FPS, I have been here so long harvest froze over

How does this actually work? Do i download the thing and install it and it works off of TF2 engine as a standalone game launcher, sort of like darkest dungeon and black reliquary, or is it inside of TF2 as a newly added gamemode you switch to? Also, is it the same, or even more demanding than regular TF2?

@funnydotyes

3 ай бұрын

you need source sdk 2013 installed

Remember deciding to download the game and play it one and I remember getting my ass beat by you

OMG IN THE VIDEO YOU KILL ME JAJAJA 🤣💖2.27

my open fortress just crashes when the start up finishes

this could be its own game, valve!!

6:16 but I'm only good at kissing boys 😭

@geffbob8960

3 ай бұрын

Same

@Jobe_

3 ай бұрын

@@geffbob8960 you like kissing boys too hmm?

@Jobe_

3 ай бұрын

@@geffbob8960 you're good at kissing boys hmm?

@Jobe_

3 ай бұрын

@@geffbob8960 you're good at kissing boys hmm?

@Jobe_

3 ай бұрын

@@geffbob8960 you're good at kissing Bois hm?

i played this game earlier its legit something we need to push for more players.

So 2 things. 1. Based on how you describe it, Open Fortress is a TF2-styled hardcore arena shooter that's actually enjoyable AND good-looking, to boot. and 2. The double-barreled shotgun needs to work like the SPAS in Half-Life in order to make it perfect. Fire = fire 1 barrel (half current damage, twice the chances to hit), Alt-Fire = fire both barrels (current design)

17:53 oh the World War II German pistol is a mix between a pistol and the World War II German pistol, who could’ve guessed?

I love this game, Im so sad that its borderline dead

It's been a while since i've played OF... but MY GOD do i miss it sometimes. the raw action, the powerups, the fucking community (i've had a blast talking with them while chopping them up with my chainsaw) the only thing missing is.. players. at least when i played the game regularly

Hell, as someone who loves arena shooters I appriciate Open Fortress as it is now. Yeah, arena deathmatch is not a thing everyone will like, but you don't need to appeal to everyone- find a damn niche sometimes, can't please everyone and when you try you fall apart

great video

HE UPLOADED :D

Ratchet and Clank Minigun Skin

while i love open fortress me being in Australia means theres barely anyone playing

I feel like nobody is playing this because the installer is flagged as a virus; It's most likely not of course, but chrome displays it as "100% dangerous malware from untrusted website" This still puts a lot of people off immediately from downloading it and trying it out. I hope they can fix this soon, assuming it isn't a virus of course.

@PartyPugTV

3 ай бұрын

if its a virus i'll let you reupload this video on ur channel and dub over it

@zOOpygOOpert

3 ай бұрын

Windows just does that its not in the control of the OF team, its nto a virus

@RainbowsClone

3 ай бұрын

@@PartyPugTV Why on earth would I do that? I mostly upload crappy memes that I make myself. Quite an odd thing to say sir. And like I said, it's definitely not a virus, I downloaded it through the ZIP archive and I've been having a lot of fun on it. My favourite map is the London one. My point is that if people go to download it and they download the installer and its flagged as a virus, that's going to put off a lot of people from trying it who might have otherwise become active players.

I’m actually interested in playing now👍👍

Idk if the minigun is that op. Health pickups are pretty uncommon and you kinda just die when there's multiple people. I do agree that you win any 1v1 with the minigun but with its limited ammo and the small amount of health pick ups make it a fair play weapon.

I tried to play this, but I was struggling to figure out how to install it.. Nvm i figured it out in 5 minutes

Tbh Im fine with the power ups especially kritz it's supposed to reward all players cause if you kill someone when they have kritz you're easily rewarded with kritz I definitely don't think you need mark for death when you have other weapons like the special weapons and other power ups to counter this like shield or overheal. Shields damage reduction is no joke when you get headshotted by a good rail gun player so I think these power ups are good because not only it makes you overpowered but can make an inexperienced player win more fights.

I need help! How do you download it??? It keeps closing and my computer anti virus thought it was a virus? I accepted it but now it keeps closing? It was called beans.exe? Please help!

@PartyPugTV

2 ай бұрын

beans.exe is their installer, i didn't make the mod so i'm not sure but i recommend joining their discord server for technical problems everyone there is super helpful!

@ReadyplayeroneYT

2 ай бұрын

@@PartyPugTV yes I joined the discord the beans part is fine but I’m not sure why it’s closing? Where do I put the file once I have it?

very good video

I love the Merc as a character, he's so hot

Dude!.. Team Fortress was created as a Quake Mod, and now, they've gone and made Quake in a TF2 Mod! XD What is Old, is New.. uwu How inspiring