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Now, that’s a watch only a mother could love.

@mjf2377

Жыл бұрын

😂👍

I love the unique look of this Phoibos. Definitely going to take advantage of the sale offering.

Cut on the minute hand would have been a great design choice. Or extend the skeletonized section just a little further so that it the arrow doesn't cover the chaptering and put a little notch or engrave a line on the back end of the arrow to point to the the chapter ring marks.

@RelativeTime

Жыл бұрын

Yah, just a simple little change would be all it needs.

The sellita SW200-2 is based on the ETA 28-24 - 2, it's an improved version of infact with double Ridge teeth on the sprocket to improve its life span. The Sinn 104 uses this movement. Given the price, the phoibos is a good desk diver but I can't imagine many people wanting a watch THIS BIG if they can't dove with it purposely due to the minute markers being obscured.

The design is very creative. I love it.

Out of the circle of watch reviewers I view on the tubes here you are the Phiobes guru. Your assessment is always spot on everything I've bought the I've seen new review has been exactly as described. I don't think this is for me but the green looks better

@RelativeTime

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I've seen almost every one that's come out in the last 4 years.

I completely agree about the minute hand, that's a big flaw in design. Makes it a desk driver.

Spinnaker and Phoibos makes some cracking good original designs!

I love Phoibos! I have the Wavemaster and it is one of my favorite watches! I also have Seiko baby tunas and an Arnie so this new Phoibos resonates. I would not consider it a tool watch however unless it had drilled lugs and aftermarket band options which it does not. So it's kinda like a work of art. I also think skeleton like hands sometimes hinder legibility. Omega Seamaster pulls it off but this particular dial layout does not. With that being said, I'm sure many Phoibos fans will love it and the price is great for a high beat movement with 15 layers of awesome lume!

I have to admit, I love the design. 💪 But I do have some gripes, similar to yours Shane. The legibility and precision od time setting. They shouldn't have made the hands skeletonised, but should have made a cut out over the minute track.

I really wish they would have gone the budget friendly route with this design. The short comings (apropos statement with this watch) would have been easier to overlook. Plus a lower price point and I would have purchased this all day every day and twice on Sunday.

This looks amazing a different! Its not for everyone but the people that like it are probably rishing for their wallets. This is most definitely not a first, second or even sixth watch but it very much has a place in a collection comprising variety.

G'morning Shane ☕☕. Merry Ho Ho 🎅🎅. Oddball quirky & strange things pique my interest. Guess that's why Im a fan of Orient' & Vostok'. Needless I like this one

Ah, Phoebos: I *do* love their just-outside-the-box enthusiasm; I just wish at least half the resulting watches resonated with my sensibilities, and this one certainly doesn't do it for me. OTOH, that upcoming GMT catches my eye, and the case size sounds just-right, so I'll be looking forward to your take on it when it hits the scene. Well-done review, as usual.

You have become one of my favorite watch reviewers. Excellent and unbiased review. Your OCD and mine coincide on that minute hand. Even though I know a mechanical movement will gain or lose time each day, when I set it I want the ability to line up the minute hand precisely on the marker. My favorite watch is my deep lake Seiko Alpinist with the dauphine hour and minute hands. The minute hand extends several mm past the minute track, which makes getting it dead-on a guess. The difference is noticeable when you see the hand approaching and leaving the markers once the watch is running. Arrgh!! Your recommendation of a simple design fix is something Phoibos should have noticed. I have had Phoibos on my radar for several months now. They are mostly real lookers. I like the looks of this watch too. But your criticisms of it point out aspects I don’t like, especially at the above $500 price tag.

@RelativeTime

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! These days you never know what Phoibos is cooking up. They are trying to be different, and have their own style. Which is great, but I think they need to do some focus group testing beforehand with their crazier designs. They have a facebook group with dedicated fans, so it would be easy to do.

I can´t stop looking at the second hand! Yes, sometimes less can be more 😃 But for the rest of the design, I think I am to conservatve for it. That´should not sound so bad as it maybe does. Fine build quality and the unique design will have it´s fans. Thanks for this interesting watch review 👍

Great video! Cool watch! But I really wish a raised 3-D Kraken was on the back 😔

@RelativeTime

Жыл бұрын

That would be cool. This one has a pretty plain caseback compared to their other models.

You said it all dood and there is hardly something to add 👍. Think the gray center is a missed opportunity, too. Like a vortex into boredom. The Arnie has plenty of Steampunk to it and I would pick it over this Oddjob any day 😊!

'Steam punk' was the word you used that best summed this watch up.

I just can’t decide if it is kinda cool or I don’t like it. Great review!

@RelativeTime

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

We all seem to want some creative new design, but this one is really too big and strange for me. It is hard to create very much new that still has some classic but interesting looks within the confines of a watch case and dial that fits well on many wrists. To me, the closest Phoibos to that mix of new and old was the Nebula. I probably should have bought the blue/white version of that watch. I only watched to the end of this video because your evaluations are always so spot on!

It's like my citizen BJ8050-08E people have special adapters made it actually has a special strap that it needs

Now this looks the business very similar to a helm not sure my wrist could carry it off but it’s got a retro thing going on as well

Have to say I like it, definitely a conversation piece....I couldn't say the same for the great wall as the brickwork made me feel very uncomfortable, creeped me out....I know odd....🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿⌚🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿⌚

Wait , you have to send back ? What a bummer ! ☃️🙋‍♂️✌️🤦‍♂️

I wish they would have used a different case, away from Rolex style, on the Great Wall. I was diggin the offset crown to break the monotony a bit but now came back with the boring center crown that digs into my skin every once in a while. The Rolex style case needs to go away, GMT or Great Wall etc. Good video😊

Great looking watch ... on someone else. Looks even more ships 'port holeish' than the Royal Oak ... except for the two giant pimples on the side.

Hola, parece un homenaje al Buyalov RR02

I love the artistic vibe of this watch. The watches I love most have a novel way of combining form and function. I don't know if the function fits my current life situation, though. Maybe if I were constantly around heavy electrical equipment, it would make more sense. Does anyone reading this comment consider antimagnetic resistance a useful feature for a watch?

@RelativeTime

Жыл бұрын

For some jobs it would come in handy, but for most people probably not. Although every iPhone has a strong magnet built into it as well as many of their chargers. So more magentic resistance isn't necisarly a bad thing.

@bonnland

Жыл бұрын

@@RelativeTime Thanks for replying. I didn't know about smart phones having strong magnets in them. Does this mean I should think seriously about minimizing the habit of holding my smart phone in my hands while I wear a non-shielded watch? Because nearly all of my wristwatches, including some with Swiss movements, are non-shielded watches that I typically wear all day. Does the habit of wearing watches while holding smart phones cross your mind at all? Do you lean toward any simple rules to reduce the likelihood of your movements getting magnetized?

@RelativeTime

Жыл бұрын

@@bonnland right now it's just apple with there Magsafe thingy. But as for the rest, I'm honestly not sure. I haven't heard anyone really complain about it, but.it is there

I am a fan of Phoibos, and rate my Voyager 3 very highly. However, who ever designed that was drunk

For me the dial layout is a bit of a fail. However I'm not the person this watch was made for in the fisrt place as I don't like the Tuna nor Arnie style. But still an interesting watch and a good video presentation.

I'm sure Phoibos loves the video, which is a good thing because I don't like the watch itself. Left a like on the video anyway.

@RelativeTime

Жыл бұрын

Hard to say if they actually watch these.

Hhmm....not a Phoibos fan here. But that chunky design works for me.....not really sure why.

Yikes. Love Phoibos but this one def needed some feedback/fine tuning. Black PVD and longer hands and it could be a popular dive watch.

Umm....yeah. I am an Arnie guy, but this one really doesn't speak to me. I give them credit for doing something out of left field, so best of luck to them. I'm totally down with what you said about the minute hand. I thought the same thing the moment I saw it. If they had made a cutout or extended the opening past the markers and put a small hash mark on the back of the arrow, it would have really shown a degree of care in the design that seems to be lacking here. I know you love the Great Wall, but it too feel just a tad "random" in terms of overall design to me.

I like it except for the skeleton hands

Not the sort of watch I would buy, too big for me and it’s something of an odd ball. Like what I seen of the gmt, very good use of colours Merry Christmas To you and your family 🎄

@RelativeTime

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Merry Christmas to you too.

All I can see is that your review example has the wrong index type on the "3". The photos on their webshop show one identical to the one at "9", in the same style as the "12".

@RelativeTime

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I noticed it later on. Most of the other examples I've seen online since, have it right, so not sure how many they screwed up. Good catch though, you are the first person to notice it and comment here.

Actually, it's an interesting watch.

I'd like to see that watch on someone's wrist to check it out and say how interesting it is since it's rather bold and unique, but I definitely won't be wearing it.

Times must be tough at Phoibos if they're asking for the watch back

@RelativeTime

Жыл бұрын

They aren't asking for it back. I just rewatched that part and I don't say it clearly enough. I was a little congested when recording, hopefully doesn't cause any confusion.

@HVG67

Жыл бұрын

​@@RelativeTime oh I literally thought you said they ARE asking back for it, too.

@RelativeTime

Жыл бұрын

@@HVG67 Yah I'm sure what happened there. But I still have the promotional tag up. I'll probably add something to the pinned comment too just to make sure everything is transparent.

I always judge aesthetics first. If I don't like the look of watch, everything else is irrelevant.

Wrong marker fitted at 3pm compared to marker at 9pm. Once you see it, you'll forever see it.

maybe a phoibos/relative time collaboration, that would be cool with your OCD and all :)

I really have a problem with Phoibos designs, they really look all over the place to me. It's a shame cause build quality is definitely there.

The incorrect index marker at 9 o'clock is a complete disaster. wtf

@RelativeTime

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it was a mistake. Evidently, some of the early blue dial ones slipped out like that. I should have caught it beforehand but didn't. Although no one else watching the review caught it either, which is more surprising. At least not until the last few weeks. Not sure why there is new interest in this watch all of a sudden.

@WalterKovacs...

Жыл бұрын

@@RelativeTime Checking their website, and on all colour variants the indices at 3 and 9 now match and are different from the others. So it's the marker at 3 o'clock that was incorrect not the one at 9. Good to see it was just a few that slipped through.

Citizen meets Vostok? Shame and a hangover in the morning.

@wallytangofoxtrot4721

Жыл бұрын

Coyote Ugly. Was found on the chewed-off arm.

"Phoibos GMT..." ......... Meh "...in 39mm"................. Huh, okay, that might be worth checking out.

@RelativeTime

Жыл бұрын

That was pretty much what I was thinking when I heard about it.

It's a no for me... it's like Vostok and Phoebos had a baby... which initially sounds kinda cool... but then this shows up.

This is a very weird one. The hands, especially the second hand are just too stubby and the look like weapons. Besides, you put the finger of it, on Phoibos watches you often find random design elements not working well together, like the minute hands obscuring the indices. Their watches simply aren't designed holistically.

Love your channel. Hate this watch. Horrible size and looks. It says, "look at me, I have no taste".

@karlsenula9495

Жыл бұрын

Richard Mille and Invicta ... "you say this screams look at me I have no taste? ... hold our beers."

no am not really like this one cheers

I'm probably just boring, but this one is too over-the-top for me.

Not much legibility thar!!

Not for me. Lol

I just can't overlook those incredible ugly crowns... Without them, I might have overlooked the rest of the design. Yeah I'm so sure this is going to be a dud. Hence the introduction price and discount out of the box..

Even free.. never...too ugly

One of the ugliest watches I've come across. Just horrible: those awful skeleton hands, the overly wide outer bezel, the relatively small dial, the colours, the crowns. Another 'compressor style' (not a real supercompressor) watch, but one that fails spectacularly for its aesthetics when compared to e.g. the Eagle Ray. As they say, it's 'unconventional'. I'll happily wear my Circula SuperSport (teal dial), a real supercompressor (made in Germany) for the same price.

@RelativeTime

Жыл бұрын

How do you like the Circula? They looked pretty intersting.

Do you actually keep saying “Phoebi”? Phoebos is not a latin word, it derives from ancient Greek, you know?

@RelativeTime

Жыл бұрын

Yah Phoibi as in plural form. Honestly no idea if that's accurate vs Phoiboss. But at this point it's more an inside joke for long time viewers. Now Phoibos isn't exactly the proper Greek spelling anyways. Yet if it was, what would be the proper plural form?

@cosmodoc

Жыл бұрын

@@RelativeTime no idea, I only studied latin at school and some medical terms derived from ancient Greek in medical school, no Greek grammar though, but I’m pretty sure the plural it very different from the Latin. I think some in greek end in oí or something. The word can be spelled both Phoebus or Phoibos, both correct

Useless bazel

@RelativeTime

Жыл бұрын

Yah, and it has those strange little nubs coming out of it too.

It's terrible 👎