I use a Sthil HS46c and love it. Works really good. For hedges, I charge by the job. I've seen guys do it by the bush.

FINALLY!!!! A very good demo and comp. Thanks GGG

We actually price it by bush. We usually do $7-$20 a bush. It just depends on how many there are and how big the bushes are and what kind of terrain they are on and etc.

@32098c209

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I generally start out at ten per bush and depending on how big the tree is I go up

I've got one of those Stihl HL100K extended reach and pivoting hedgetrimmers. I've had it since 2013 but it looks new, I take really good care of everything. I used to work at an equipment dealer so naturally I still service my own equipment. I love almost everything about Stihl. The power and performance, ergonomics and serviceability. All their designs are really modular and super easy to work on. I've always found their prices on parts to be much better.

Nice to see that you guys always enjoy working together. Great video and very helpful to see the differences and similarities.

Thank you very much guys I really appreciate I'm looking into buying my 1st one to do my yardwork. You guys really helped me out 💪👍

I have the Stihl HS56. I just finished trimming several 8 foot tall burning bushes today. When trimming up over the top of these I run the trimmer upside down. The non turning handle never stopped me or limited me ever and I’m just a homeowner doing this periodically as needed. I had to carve out some dead branches that were wider than the acceptable range. Ran the trimmer rocking the edge to carve out a vee in the branch and in no time I’m through. Never owned an Echo product and have no opinion.

Never used stihl hedge trimmers but I love my echo ones. Love the videos, keep it up, keep doing more videos with Brandon 👍👍I hate doing hourly rates, I always price the whole job.

Great video brotherkeep up the awesome work guys

I love the pas echo with hedge & pole saw attachments

Echo is supreme BUT I have a Kawasaki hedge trimmer and that thing is a monster!

I would choose Echo if I used gas hedge trimmers. But at some properties(residential & commercial) I can do hedge trimming as early as 6am because I use the Ego Ht-2410 & the Ego HTA-2000. No noise,no complaints lol. So gas hedge trimmers are king but battery does have it's place.

Never ever tell the customer an hourly rate. I quote the job only.

@ibarramaintenance9807

4 жыл бұрын

Gwinnett Lawns something my dad always told me never to mention

Good video, always been a stihl guy but that echo looks impressive

echo all the way worth the investment

Brandon is getting more comfortable with the camera I noticed,you guys rock.Tell Brandon I love when he name the plant or shrub he’s working on.I have a Echo HC 165 hedge trimmer had it for 5 years and I love it. I usually charge $75 per hour if it’s more than 4 large shrub and a dump fee but every job is different.I like your hat where can I purchase one ? Thanks for the video

Nice video Brian and Brandon, I use the HS 82 T! I price per job. Stihl is the best by far!

HL100K Sthil, it's awesome... planning to get one of those shears for small one like those round

I’ve always been a fan of Echo

I just bought a redmax CHTZ2460 hedge trimmer for $80 and this thing cuts like butter, very sharp and crispy. I've used all of the top brand hedge trimmers and I also own a stihl 131 kombi with articulating hedge trimmer attachment and the cut quality of this redmax is right there at the top with the stihl and echo, if not better. This thing is well used and still runs good and cuts super crisp!

I run the 56C and I love it, but that articulating handle on the echo caught my eye!

@aaryns447

5 жыл бұрын

Greiner Services stihl hs 82 t

@alexanderpryor3514

2 жыл бұрын

mines to i think imma purchase that one

$10 a bush for bushes like the size that you are doing on this video. A little less for smaller ones and a little more for bigger ones. For hedges, $1 for knee-high, $2 for waist-high, $3 for shoulder-high times the linear feet of the length of the hedge. Occasionally you will get a taller hedge that would $4 a linear foot. I am currently using a Echo hedge trimmer.

@bryantbailey2943

5 жыл бұрын

What state are you in?

@briankennedy1313

3 жыл бұрын

Wyoming.

@briankennedy1313

3 жыл бұрын

Idaho, North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana, Utah.

I like both you can't go wrong either way.

Love the videos Brian, what comes to mind is what the neighbors think when your shooting these videos. 😂😂 “what the heck are these two guys doing in the neighbors yard”. Lol keep it up!

@BriansLawnMaintenance

5 жыл бұрын

Lol oh yeah

Depends I guess on what kinda bush, how tall, but normally 5 to 20 bucks per Bush.. I really haven't perfected cost effective way to charge. I just tell the customer what it is and if they don't like it I try to negotiate. It really helps me gauge what the customer expectations are

I would go for the Stihl just because that's what I have the best dealer support for and parts as well as the HS46 I am looking at is the lightest I have ever felt. Currently running a cheaper 4-stroke which is like holding a box of bricks its so heavy and a somewhat lighter 2-stroke which is good for diosmas etc. which need the faster tip speed. We charge by the job for hedging too.

Hey Guys! Do you do any Selective Pruning after your done taking off the new growth? I always have have my hand pruners in my pocket and when I’m done I will reach into the bush and trim out some branches so the sunlight can get into the bush. Helps prevent the dead stuff on the inside and just the green on the out side!

Hi Brian. Jim Shanks here from J.S.G.S N.Ireland. I do enjoy your videos. Both Trimmers are good, but relatively speaking the Rotational Handle is essential when pruning ornamental trees, shrubs etc. Regards Jim from J.S.G.S

I have been trimming shrubs for about 15 years commercially between these two brands, and I lean heavily towards Echo. They just always seem more powerful, and easier to Maneuver. Stihl's hand held trimmers for very tiny shrubs, freaking rock though It's like carving a turkey. I also like Stihl extension trimmers over the competition. That's just my opinion though. Always charge by the job, never hours. The last thing you should do is have a customer scare themselves by over guesstimating. The price does depend on the quality of the customer though for me.

@robsolo4024

Жыл бұрын

If you buy the STIhl hedge trimmer it Hass to be the single sided R series not the T series The R Has that sticker blade that just cuts phenomenal and they’re now 700 bucks ouch

Love the videos brother hope to see ya at the GIE... I've got a hc152 echo nothing to fancy since I rarely do trimming but occasionally do it, but my only complaint with it is I think it could be built better mainly talking about the plastic handle. I've replaced 2 handles on the unit since I bought it. Definitely a pain to do, but other than that love my echo equipment and will he more than likely switching to all echo for next year. Thanks for all the great videos and hope to see yall at the GIE have a blessed one brother. GIBSON'S MOWING FORT WAYNE INDIANA

I use Shindaiwa HT232. I have never used Echo or Stihl trimmers. Have been thinking of trying them out. Thanks for the review.

@andybub45

3 жыл бұрын

Shindaiwa is the same as echo

@Jesus-mc2do

3 жыл бұрын

@@andybub45 yeah, I found that out a few months back. I’ve tried both now and I’m happy with them.

I usually charge by the job I would only recommend charging by the job if you've been doing this for a while because its easy to undercut yourself

As a non pro, if both products are on a par it's the weight that matters, over a period of time the Echo can get real heavy.

Check out the Stihl HS 82R. Its more on par with the 2420, swivel handle and all.

Bid is the way to go. People freak on T&M jobs in PA too. Give a nice written proposal on letterhead outlining everything and the scope. What I do is figure production rates of cubic ft that a man can achieve in an hour of pruning, and then multiply that number by my direct and indirect costs; lastly, I add in a profit margin.

Long reach hede trimmers are my favourite purely because there safer to use as the blades are far away from your hand. However I do use a handheld as well just for the awkward jobs

@ronnrogers9459

3 жыл бұрын

Dude try a 58-volt Echo Hedge Trimmer the light and they are quiet and you can do a Catch job in the morning without waking up the neighbours once you try it you will never want to go back to a gas trimmer again

@zoba4645

2 жыл бұрын

The Stihl hs56 does not even have a protective cover on the front handle, so the fingers are very exposed to the blade. When I look at it, it seems a little scary.

Stihl 82R is a beast.

Know this is an older video but I usually price per shrub/bush by the size and how much overgrowth. I only give them the quote, I never tell them what I'm shooting for as an hourly rate for the same reason the other guy gave. I don't have either of these models but I do have one with the rotating handle and it's a back and arm saver for sure.

Currently using an HS45 & an HS 81R for the meaty stuff. For long reach I us my Husky 535LK!

I use a Stihl personally. I had issues with mine hanging the throttle after a year old. Later it got loosened up. Had to rebuild the carburetor after 4 years. Mine doesn't have the round tip like in the video. I had to sharpen & take the slack out of the bar. They don't like cheap gas! It's better to run the premixed gas in the liter cans if you can afford it.

I own a tree cutting business and I calculate jobs based on a hourly rate, plus what equipment I'm going to need and disposal fees. I charge $150 an hour, with a $200 minimum. I don't tell customers my hourly rate, but I will itemize services.

I love and use Echo products

I like and have both the echo & stihl but I charge base on the type and size of plant. I provide a s ulpure type trim on plants and hedges.

I charge by the hr, but we also go over them and fine tune with hand scissors ✂️ For quick jobs and lower grade we just go over with the trimmers clean up and leave for a decent price 🙃

Echo , pruning is hourly rate for most , those on fixed incomes and over 65 get a 10% discount , but that's just us ,

I have the Stihl. I charge by the size of the hedges. $5 for small, $10 for medium, etc.

@alexanderpryor3514

2 жыл бұрын

how much for the big ones, im just starting up a lawn services?

STIHL + ECHO Really can't go wrong with either brand in the commercial or business world. I've invested in the milwaukee m18 series carbon fiber lightweight equipment. I only use 2 stroke gas in my 2 smoke CR500R braaaaap life.

Just starting out, so my local dealer is recommending the Stihl HS 56. Some of the cities in my area have restrictions against gas powered.... so I have tried the ECO battery powered unit, which seems to work very well.... aside from the 30-40 minute battery life.

@sticktoFL

4 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey Stoesser move out of that liberal city sir

@jeffreystoesser6878

4 жыл бұрын

@@sticktoFL I'm working on it....

Your right most dont like to hear a hourly rate. I charge by the bush but in the end I will get my hour rate.

Hi Brian thanks for the videos really helpful im going to be buying a hedge trimmer in the next few weeks i do window cleaning and some gardening work and i want to get a good light weight hedge trimmer what would you recommend thanks Brian 😊

Hmm both good units. I'm thinking about replacing my crappy black and decker and going for a Stihl HS 45. More of my family members want me to do some landscaping for them so later this year I may throw down for a stihl. Both great units, however, I give the win to Stihl for its weight and how it does on fine trimming.

@birdlegs846

3 жыл бұрын

I've had my Stihl hs45 for 10 years and I have a lot of hedges. The hs45 is my favorite power tool, starts all the time and never kills.

I am considering getting the ego commercial.

I don’t landscape, but I am waiting to, but I had tried both I like the steel

Echo all the way!! 👍💪🤛. 💪Echo💪

I like an adjustable angle pole hedge trimmer.

@briankennedy1313

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. Even with a little extra weight it seems more ergonomic. Even the detachable Stihl unit was nice. Not too long.

@BRWfilms

2 жыл бұрын

Ive used the kombi with the adjustable pole pruner for ever but i gotta get a dedicated hedge trimmer

Little update, earlier this year I switched to Husqvarna, I now use the 122HD60 & the 522HDR75X. More comfortable to use and quieter in my opinion! Nice having the Stihl's as a backup though! Would never get away with charging US prices in the UK. You're either very generous or we're tight as arse holes!

@briankennedy1313

3 жыл бұрын

Completely depends on where you live. I would imagine the suburbs of London would pay more accordingly.

@tgsgardenmaintenance4627

2 жыл бұрын

@@briankennedy1313, we don't all live in London! Have to say though, after just over a years of use, the Husqvarna 522HDR75X has proved to be phenomenal!

Just our hourly rate with machines running plus debris removal. but we always do it by the job our numbers are felt secret.

Great video guys

I'm waiting on my husqvarna 322hd60 24 inch hedge trimmer. Havn't seen any reviews with that model? Hope you can help. Like your video!

Depends on the situation. Too many variables. $65 just to have the machine in my hand, then from there on up. I use a poulan pro (pp2822) as my prior machine was stolen out of truck bed approx 4 years ago. All my tools basically live outside in the elements and by some standards are abused severely. Case point it got left in a wheelbarrow during a nasty storm wheelbarrow filled up so did the trimmer. Didn't need it for a week or so I bet you can imagine what happened. Only thing that has been replaced on it in all that time is a primer bulb and that was just done about one week ago! I think in the end the reason why I have a PP is because of my more expensive unit being taken from me buy an unsavory individual if you get my meaning.

@rcguygarage

5 жыл бұрын

My only gripe on this unit is the exhaust as its faces left side (right handed) so I always smell like nasty fuel 🤣

Great machine

I just bid a job flat out. I look at tools required, time, risk, and disposal. I've had jobs where I had to trim with a Stihl kombi trimmer with an extension.. if you are done in 20 minutes vs 3 and a half hours. What do you want to make in an hour?

Depends on the job and the difficulty on how we charge

nice bro!

use a snapper hivac 21 on those clippings and you wont have to rake them up. huge work saver.

Not sure about the newer Echo trimmers but the older models were unforgiving with unwanted vibration. Switched to Stihl years ago. So much smoother running than the competition. I would be interested in trying a new Echo though. I have multiple trimmers that I use. Small to the combi unit with extension and trimmer head. Love the articulating head of the combi. Great for fall clean ups of hostas, day lilies and ornamental grasses. No more bending over to cut😃😃. As for pricing, ALWAYS by the job!!! My minimum is 200$. I won’t even think about trimming a few shrubs for 75$ anymore. Qualify the customer over the phone. I like to get at least 150$/hour or more. Any ladder work is an additional 100$. Yesterday was one large overgrown yew hedge, three medium yews, two overgrown hydrangeas, one overgrown dogwood shrub and one large zebra grass. 2.5 hours/650$. 6x10 utility trailer 3/4 full. Customer was very happy with the results. Me too😃😃. If you guys n gals haven’t raised your prices it’s about time you do!!!! So much work out there!! Shrubby 😃

@matthewkania9347

Жыл бұрын

150$ a hour😮

Price by the bush. If it's overgrown, it's more money.

I’m currently using echo and stihl aswell as Husqvarna, There all really good brands my favourite is echo, it depends on the size of the job, if it’s a small job it’s hourly rate but set price for bigger jobs like hedge trimming!

Echo #1, my Stihl spent more time in the shop then trimming. I've had a Stihl blower, chain saw, line trimmer, hedge trimmer and all have stranded me on jobs more times than I can remember except the line trimmer which has been a jewel, everything else I've switched to Echo. Echo is cold natured though needs a couple minutes to warm up.

@justachristiansoldier9609

5 жыл бұрын

Danny Gonzalez Yes sir, all of them new. I don’t want to be too hard on Stihl, they’re obviously doing something right but all of them (except the line trimmer) had multiple shop visits and left me stranded and hotter than a hornet due to breakdowns on the job. BTW I still have all of them in my possession (shelved) in various states of repair and disrepair except the hedge trimmer which I was so put out with I sold it to a friend for $150 last year (I hope he’s still a friend) :) I only have started using Echo products last year and I am pleased, my only minor concern is Echo’s choke lever seems a little flimsy, so I try to be careful not to manhandle it.

Per bush usually 10-15$

charge by the Job . know your abilities and take your time in figuring out a price !! dont low ball

Brian, next time you do a competition with hedge trimmers, you should also include a battery powered unit. Stihl makes several good ones. They are lighter, cleaner air quality and do a great job.

@jonnysnipes3123

2 жыл бұрын

Na, battery is for wimps. If you ain’t mixing gas you ain’t hedging grass

@sebastian56309

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonnysnipes3123 what is hedging grass?

I normally do per job. I agree with Brandon, with the hourly people get weirded out and start to get very defensive. If Brian does no shave I'll do no shave November haha.

@JayJay-vo5by

Жыл бұрын

CC CC

It’s not a rough start up, you have to let them warm up before pulling the trigger. I believe they recommend a minute and a half warm up time.

@MrItalianfighter1

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, otherwise, you wear out the clutch faster.

@matt2008r1

5 жыл бұрын

I start mine when I park the truck. Walk around to look at everything again and by the time I get back to the truck its warm and good to go. It always aggravated me that they bog on start up until being warm but now its routine.

I have an echo blower, starts easy every time every year. My Stihls are a pain in the rear damn near everytime and need new carbs too often. Echo for me. I however have a Shindaiwa string trimmer that is going strong and 12 years old!

I was trimming headges a couple days ago and yellow jackets surfaced only to have my cousin laugh at me running and swinging

@birdlegs846

3 жыл бұрын

haha sounds like the chainsaw scene in tucker and dale vs evil🤣 kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZGaHu5qHgpfToZc.html

Echo makes great outdoor equipment

Both the stihl and echo are equally great. The main difference is weight and price. Stihl is more expensive because the lighter materials used. They are lighter and more balanced for extending use.

@noahgamingvideos1584

Жыл бұрын

And they last life time

Bro I cut yards as a lil side hustle and Brian my fav blogger lol I watch this for fun not really for learning

I use a stihl hs45 for small tight spots and stihl hl 94k for just about everything i prune.... and i charge by the job not by the hrs

I’ve been a Stihl fan for a while but I’ve been disappointed with how hard it is to get parts for them. Always have to go to the dealer. And they are over engineered, which isn’t too much of a surprise since they are German. I’m thinking about trying an echo, after working on both brands frequently, echo is just simple and reliable. Parts are easier to find and can be bought online.

The pole stihl trimmers are best

I use the stihl hs 81r and hs 82t works so good for me.. but I am a stihl freak to be honest

I do my quotes in 2 ways either $40.00 Australian per hour or one price for the job so if that job takes 2 hours or 6 hours its the one price.

If they get mulch after Hedges ill with mow too I'll throw it in for one hundred but if they just want hedge only it's two hundred and up all depends on how often I am paid to come on property basically I need a dollar a minute no matter what is the bottom line.. Plus I basically include mow with hedge and possible gutter all package price to keep busy year round great video

Both are great but where the difference lies is the weight for me. If I’m trimming for a few hours which I used to do alot than the Stihl is the far better choice.

I price by bush and also take in the time to blow and cleanup.

I'm a fan of charging per job. It's easy when I have apartments or commercial jobs and they can't verify my hours. I can't stand being watched and questioned about "were you really here for THAAAAT long" when i charge per hr.

I like still

Do battery powered hedge trimmers or even other battery powered ope have a place in a professional lawn care company? I hardly see any guys using battery ope on the job. Some battery units I have used perform quite well.

What kind of work pants does Brandon wear? Been looking for a good pair. Thanks

@ewilliams19

4 жыл бұрын

Duluth

I haven't used either machine. 8.50 per bush (under 6foot).

I charge small bushes 6 per bush and 9 per medium bush and 15 or 20 per a large bush like 3 feet tall and 3 wide

@MrMustangred

4 жыл бұрын

This is exactly how i charge also. I dont tell the customer, but in my head i time and calculate by the hour. If you use these prices per bush(6,9,10,15), it comes out to about 100.00 an hour.

I’m from Arizona and I charge per shrub.

Yes Brian no shaving in November Lol

I price out the job. I hate doing hourly .

@DustinRamsey

5 жыл бұрын

SAME! The reason I hate it is because I feel incredibly rushed and have to be on overdrive, as well as $50 offends people near me

@FerrariTeddy

3 жыл бұрын

@@DustinRamsey they want you to bust ass for 10$ an hour and run equipment. Fuck hourly.

@briankennedy1313

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, smart man.

Maruyama best hedge trimmers hands down

I have the stihl and its been a huge pain in the ass about ready to get rid of it

I had an echo and I switch to Sthil much lighter and more manegble

I have the HC-2420's slightly bigger brother on the way and even bigger, single sided brother on the way the HCS-4020, the wait is killing me. The Echo has more pro features than the STIHL HS 56.