This has become one of my favorite channels. Most military tech vids are click bait and just rehash the same known info. This one is different. It's truly original content and I always learn something new and interesting here. Thank you for sharing your research!

@kentl7228

Жыл бұрын

The difference between an educated researcher and a copier )) it's a great channel

Hope we can have an episode about radars, like the capabilities and differences of modern AESA radars fielded by US, EU and China.

@waynesworldofsci-tech

Жыл бұрын

Yes, that would be fantastic.

@Ionizap

Жыл бұрын

Interesting but might not be a lot of info on this, would be classified?

@trplankowner3323

Жыл бұрын

That's actually 3 different categories there; China, whose radars are most likely not full AESA, the EU, modern AESA radars and the US's AN/APG-81, 83, 85 SABR MFAs which are more than AESA radars. That's like comparing apples, pears, and quinces. Or limes to lemons to oranges. Or maybe squash, pumpkin, or gourd?

@longtsun8286

Жыл бұрын

It would be nice to have, but all competently run militaries keep their radar systems' capabilities one of their top secrets, meaning it'll be EXTREMELY difficult to produce an episode with actual facts in them, instead of guesswork and outright lies- not only about an opponent's radar systems to discredit their performance, but about one's own to make an opponent over- or underestimate one's capabilities.

I’d really like to see the Navy produce its own fighter specifically designed for fleet protection and have a very long combat range.

@1975KyleDavid

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like you just described a Gen 6 F-14. That would be hotter than a jalapeño!

@apex_blue

Жыл бұрын

Navy has their own sixth gen Aircraft coming.

@onebridge7231

Жыл бұрын

@@apex_blue I’m excited to see it when we can first get eyes on it.

@dingolightfoot8823

Жыл бұрын

Make it a 6th generation cross hybrid F-14 F-111 with A-10 roles but on the sea... Internal weapons bays along with external payloads of up to 6 hard points on each wing and a 25mm revolving cannon with 800 rounds.. A range of 3000 miles and a speed of 2300 mph. Call it the advanced tactical fighter attack bomber program....F/A/B- 26 Centurion!

@dingolightfoot8823

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget to give it armor like the A-10

Lessons learned from building the F-22 were used to develop the F-35. The F-22 also serves as a "test mule" for some of the new technologies going into the NGAD fighter. The F-22s will be upgraded with some of the technologies developed for the F-35 and NGAD. I expect both the F-22 and F-35 will be upgraded with ceramic RAM which will greatly decrease the cost of operation.

One of the big issues with the F-22 is that it is not easily upgradable/modular. But it was designed and built in a time before "modular". Any new stealth air dominance fighter will have to be modular in engines, RAM coating and avionics. With plug and play capabilities and a wide fusion of sensors and weapons.

@khandimahn9687

Жыл бұрын

Modularity existed long before the F-22. But it's actually easier to design something with more dedicated systems. I know it sounds counterintuitive, but it's true.

@Echowhiskeyone

Жыл бұрын

@@khandimahn9687 Agree. I worked on the SLQ-32 in the Navy. It was sorta modular, but nothing like the newer SLQ-32 SEWIP. Even the F-22 is kind of modular, but not near like the F-35 today.

@jpierce2l33t

Жыл бұрын

@@Echowhiskeyone yooo I was JUST reading about the new sewip block 3. There's obviously not a whole lot of details out there on it, but from what they've been able to publish, those new electronic attack capabilities sound pretty incredible!

@Echowhiskeyone

Жыл бұрын

@@jpierce2l33t I got out before SEWIP was introduced to the fleet. But I know what it was supposed to be. And anything with the SLQ-32 is at least Secret, so very little will be released to the public.

@jpierce2l33t

Жыл бұрын

@@Echowhiskeyone yeah, most of the realm of EW tech is kept pretty quiet, understandably. The Warzone and Breaking Defense have had some pretty interesting articles about it though.

Some times mirroring/flipping the video can help prevent a copyright flag, software should be able to flip it for you, and as long as there isn't text in the video it looks perfectly normal. However this sounds like a manual flag, and I do remember you mentioning something about a copyright strike in the previous video when showing the footage.

Funding and a changing enemy led to cutting the Raptor production, but I think they also were amazed out how capable it was. 700+ units is an overmatch for sure!

Great video as always. Your stealth German video was so good. I hope you can republish a redacted version.

@Sundara229

Жыл бұрын

Agree, it's an important educational piece. Hope it will be back up soon.

@that.schamp

Жыл бұрын

With extra ridicule of the fools who put up the copyright strike.

Bro I cannot get enough of the F-22 footage. I would take literally all the stock footage of it that you've got, the thing is absolutely majestic.

Nice video. The F-22 , The JSF in all of it variants - The F-35-A , F-35-B and F-35-C are all designed to serve a chosen purpose. The next "Generation's" of Fighters and other classes of planes will due to the F-22's and the F-35's what the F-22 does to everything right now.

great to have you back, missed the consistent uploads

You have made a lot of great videos, but I think this one tops them all. Great work!

Why is it that the F22 is just so drop dead gorgeous to look at?

@NationChosenByGod

Жыл бұрын

I actually like the look of the prototype more, but the production does change certain aspect of the prototype.

Ah, Alex - you're breaking my heart again. I WANT that hybrid fighter!

Thanks for spending the time to create and share this content awareness

As a replacement for the F/18, the F/35 is an amazing upgrade

@mitchjames9350

Жыл бұрын

The F18 true successor is the F/A-XX

Sorry to hear you got copyright dinged on that last video. Thankfully I got to see it before that. Your videos are always so well done, it is sad that some "myth making" production company can contest your fair use documentary work.

Alex, I always enjoy your videos. New and fresh videos and content. Thx for the great work. Keep it up……🇺🇸👊🏼

...splendid report, good man!...thanks for your efforts to draw it up fot us!...

Nicely done Alex

I think the big issue with this, as you laid out here, is the assumption that the newly designed aircraft will arrive, quickly. While I missed an exact date, it sounded like you were saying the "Joint Strike Raptor" would have been hitting the fleet around 2018, or about 5 years ago. The problem, to me, with waiting for the "next big thing", is that if there's any delays, or other issues, we get right back into the current/recent history situation with the 4th Gen Fighters "running out of flight time", and yet the F-35 not being ready for primetime. Don't get me wrong, I'm excited for what's to come, but I worry that this focus on "next generation aircraft" over current capability (such as a Joint Strike Fighter), will come back and bite us, just like what happened with the development and fielding of the Joint Strike Fighter/F-35. On the other hand, at this point, it's probably better to just bite the bullet and wait for the next gen aircraft, and hope to god that nothing happens in the intervening years it takes for the next gen aircraft to be developed. As for the costs and whatnot, of a "Joint Strike Raptor", while you seemed to focus on Japan and the US, it's likely that other countries would be interested in such an aircraft, like South Korea, Australia, or Israel, just to name a few. Those potential additional aircraft would likely then help drive down costs, along with if the US and Japan replaced our Eagles in a 1-for-1 basis, along with the current F-22s (whether new-build or upgrades) with this new hybrid aircraft.

@jeffbenton6183

Жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. That said, there are a few other problems. For one, it's currently illegal to export the F-22 - that law would need to be repealed before Japan and Australia could help us out on that point. Another issue is that there's (currently) nowhere to build the things. The pieces of the F-22 that Boeing made were in their giant commercial aviation production factory in Everett, Washington, which have been overbooked with airliner production since the end of F-22 production (although that situation may have changed due to the pandemic, and Boeing's seemingly silly idea to move some production to North Carolina, but with less experienced employees). Lockheed Martin's Forth Worth factory is also at capacity building F-35s and F-16s. These problems are not (in my amatuerish opinion) insurmountable, but it would require heaps of money. I think the "JSR" could be an excellent interim solution - its will certainly be available faster than NGAD - but it would be awfully expensive for an interim solution.

@that.schamp

Жыл бұрын

Not having your best equipment in continuous - if slow - production with incremental improvements (some of which can be retrofitted) is setting yourself up for disaster. We should be on the F-22F by now, on airframe #400 or so. Maybe the first 100 would already be parked at Davis-Monthan to control operating costs, but the operating costs of the newer airframes would be lower, per unit production costs would be lower, we would be in a better position to grow production if we needed to, the Air Force would be fielding more capable aircraft, and we would have older airframes we could service and sell to partners. An F-22F would quite probably have looked a lot like what Alex describes here...

@GonzoTehGreat

Жыл бұрын

This hybrid was proposed to Japan in 2018 and again in 2021, so it wouldn't enter production until the late 2020s, which is partly why Japan opted to proceed with developing their own version (F-3). Japan also has an aging aircraft problem, as they need to replace their version of the Eagle (F-15j), but they've already acquired and currently operate the F-35 (A and B versions), which is intended to replace their versions of the F-16 (known as the F-2) and the F4. The USAF decided to keep both the F-16 and F-15E in service for the foreseeable future, which will be supplemented by the F-15EX (Eagle 2), so the F-35 will not be replacing older "4th+ gen" immediately. Instead, as F-35As are gradually acquired (at a rate of approx ~150 annually over the next decade) the oldest aircraft will be incrementally replaced and retired. The USN will also continue to use the F-18E/F alongside the new F-35C. South Korea developed their own "5th gen" air superiority stealth fighter, the KF-21 in 2021. They already have the F35A for strike missions. Israel want a replacement for their version of the F-15E Strike Eagle (F-15i), so they're more interested in the F-15EX (Eagle 2) and they've already acquired and modified the JSF (F-35i), to use alongside their existing version of the Falcon (F-16i). Australia opted to keep operating the F-18 for now, alongside their purchases of the F-35A.

@The_ZeroLine

Жыл бұрын

100%. And, just like with most technology, continually upgrading and refining the latest generation of PROVEN aircraft would likely have nearly the same capabilities as your newest cutting edge platform AND a thousand more available. And even if a competitor was about to debut something way more advanced, only a handful of them isn’t going to do anything. Also, even the ancient gen 4 F15 has shown with the F15EX has shown, you discover an old platform with new tech can provide capabilities never dreamed of before.

@The_ZeroLine

Жыл бұрын

Of course, ideally you do both. Keep producing and developing planes like the F22 while developing the new thing. If we hadn’t spent nearly a trillion dollars on MRAPS (which we have been PAYING to destroy and dispose of for years now) and trying to nation building in countries any halfway educated person could have told you would never work, we could have a few thousand F-22s in the air.

Love these videos!

Love your content. Keep bein awesome dude

@JSFGuy

Жыл бұрын

You should probably watch the video first.

I like concepts like this for the US military and vendors to have in their back pocket in case open non nuclear conflict breaks out and the battles play out that the limitations of one weapon system are matched with combining it with elements of another. The economics however are always key. Having plans in place that can be modified to meet the dynamic battlefield needs is key to success. Logistics and adaptation are key to winning modern wars. Also Japan really really wanted the F22 back in the day and only begrudgingly bought the F35. This plan is just a back door for Japan to get the F22, an improved version at that. I think the budgetmakers though are making the better choice to move forward on NGAD programs for the Air Force and Navy. The Navy especially needs long ranger carrier launched stealth fighters for facing China while staying out of range of land based antiship missiles.

Any chance you could look into the KF-21. South Korea has been developing a domestically developed 4th generation plus fighter and using lessons learned from a technology transfer from the F-35.

I think as near-peer stealth improves, a pilot will be flying along, look over and see an enemy plane right next to them, both having gone undetected until seen, making visual range combat more likely than not.

@MrSJPowell

11 ай бұрын

IR will be a lot more difficult to spoof that radar, as heat dispersion is a basic factor of physics, but yeah, this is a thing to consider.

Great episode 👍

As someone who knows what goes into this kind of technology, they’re overcharging by a long shot and it’s not fair. The US shouldn’t need to scrape billions of dollars to defend itself. The military should have more companies it buys from to force business like Lockheed to drop their prices. If the US could threaten its business by transferring to a broader range of businesses, they would have no choice but to drop prices on unnecessarily expensive planes.

Followed from Team House podcast, good channel

Thanks Alex!

Great ending point!

Thanks Alex.

Here is the realistic version of your hybrid F-22/F-35. The F-135 Engine would be used instead of the F-119. The F-135 is an active production line in high numbers and super cruise doesn't seem as necessary given the proximity of Japan to North Korea & China. Plus the F-135 gives an Hybrid F-22 even more thrust than the current one. DAS is Highly effective but extremely expensive. Plus, a lot of re-engineering would have to be done to get the same 360 degree coverage on a raptor that the F-35 has. So instead, it would use the same IRST that's being developed RIGHT NOW for the current Raptor in its next batch of upgrades. Plus would integrate easily with the upcoming JHMCS replacement helmet. This would save money on the already too expensive F-35 helmet. Otherwise, Everything else you said in this video is realistic. LOVE THE CHANNEL and all the hard work you do.

I'd push to make this hybrid able to carry 2 JASSMs internally & Aim9X/JATMs in it's side bays. A stealth aircraft with 2 JASSMs & 2 JATMs for self defense would be pretty sexy

I heard on one of your previous videos that the F-35 engine makes more power compared to the engines of the F22 and the only reason the Raptor has more thrust is obviously because it has two engines compared to just one like the F35

@jeffbenton6183

Жыл бұрын

The F135 engine that the F-35 uses is too wide for the F-22. That said, there have been considerable advancements in technology since the F119s were new, so a higher performance version of the F119 should be possible - and that's without even looking at the promising capabilities of the "variable cycle" principle.

It seems to me that, if you’re going to get a strike, they really should leave the video up. Giving you a strike AND taking down the video seems awfully harsh.. I realize that’s their policy, it’s just a policy that sucks.

@jeffbenton6183

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad I chose to watch that one as soon as it was new. For this channel, I usually binge-watch several videos long after they're launched.

@The_ZeroLine

Жыл бұрын

You’d think he could just blur out that part and reupload. If he was meeting fair usage standards, they can make copyright claims until they’re blue in the face and it won’t get taken down if you simply challenge their claim, which then means a human reviews it to verify you have followed fair usage.

Another very informative video. I'd love it if you could make a video summarizing what is known about the 6th-generation fighters currently in development.

@amaneyugihanako-kunofthesi8849

Жыл бұрын

I second that! But it may take some time to do because up until now, news regarding the Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) programs of both the US Air Force (Penetrating Counter-Air or PCA) and US Navy (F/A-XX) are rare to come by, and if they do appear, it's just something vague, often an announcement about the timetable and research priority for the programs and not getting into further details about the Sixth-Generation Fighters in question. So, even what we do know about those programs is still very little and very vague compared to what's actually possibly going on in there, and it seems like the USAF and USN would rather keep it that way so as to protect all of their secrets regarding the programd being developed. Until then, all that we can do regarding the NGAD programs as a whole (PCA and F/A-XX) is just to speculate and theorize on what they could become.

@The_Book_Of_M

Жыл бұрын

@@amaneyugihanako-kunofthesi8849 Still, a summary of which countries/services are working on 6th-gen fighters (and perhaps what the likely goals are for these aircraft) would be really interesting.

Make a combo of the F-23 and the F-35 and you would really have something.

One of the things stealth counters is BVR combat. So a fighter jet in a near peer contested air space environment is likely to still see significant use of close quarters manoeuvering when they can't target reach others at distance and need higher power ground support to vector in interceptors to counter enemy stealth.

@PhillioDoede

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. BVR missiles are not magic and can be defeated. When facing technological peer adversaries in situations with with less than perfect support and coverage close quarter engagements are going to happen and when they maneuverability is going to be a factor. And in situations where support and coverage is a disadvantage traditional performance and maneuverability might be your only advantage.

@michaelwicker9538

Жыл бұрын

@DeadManWalking yes, the DAS is a huge advantage at short range. The f35 has been reported to have radar detection at ranges of something like 300 miles, that exceed older generation AWACS that I believe the air force might still be flying. The DAS can see "things" at ranges of 20-30 miles if the weather is right. And it can identify specific objects and classify them regardless of light and weather conditions at about 10 miles, which is also about where people can use their eye balls too under good weather conditions.

@t74guard78

Жыл бұрын

Well when the F-22 faces an enemy with good stealth, your probably right. But it has no near peer right now to have a contest with nor does it look like it will have one for sometime now. The so called stealth SU57 and J-20 don't have the same kind of stealth the F-22 has. BVR combat is still very much what the F-22 would be doing even against those pretenders. I am sure the US military will have plans to counter any enemy stealth whenever it finally happens. Looks at least a decade away.

@michaelwicker9538

Жыл бұрын

@@t74guard78 the swedish gripen has a nasty habit of getting very close to f22's using modern e-war even with the f22 stealth. Neither can see the other on radar, but for very different reasons. While the SU-57 is very ambitious, it's not a complete aircraft on account of the tooling that can't be tested because of strategic embargos against Russia. Something about a border dispute in Ukraine... Yada yada The J20 was built by a major military power defending an economy that is in almost the exact situation the US economy was when it exploded after WW2, that is the dominant manufacturing economy for the entire world. And has a bigger military research budget than the US has at the moment. Obviously the US could expand it's military research spending if it wanted to. But it's already huge as it is, do I'm not expecting big shifts in the short term. The J20 has been called "very competent" after a close call between f35's and J20's by the US marine commander over that encounter. It's a very ambitious plane that might not have all of the stealth tricks of the F22, but I wouldn't underestimate it. And I especially wouldn't underestimate anything that the US Marines are giving respect to on an international stage.

Please do a full video with a summary of future radar technologies, I saw something about "quantum radar" relying on photon entanglement but all I could find was very sketchy videos, would be nice with a video going through all the ways being worked on to defeat stealth.

Shame on them for pulling the video. Stealth has been a concept since aircraft have been used in war. Camo paint for example. Long time follower and i support your right to source, support, or disagree while expressing an opinion

Yay! It’s a good day when there’s a new episode on the end of a Friday work shift.

These videos always get be so excited about what ngad is going to be like

Thanks Alex..... Shoe🇺🇸

That was just perfect.

So stealthy it doesn't even exist. Way to go Skunk Works!

A new clean sheet design with up to date systems is what's needed. The current F22's can carry on the air superiority role in the mean time. Another great video Alex.

@mitchjames9350

Жыл бұрын

Or they can use the YF23 which was superior to the YF22/F22.

@heathwirt8919

Жыл бұрын

@@mitchjames9350 It lost the fly off against the F22 and is now old tech.

Thanks

Your next video should be about the liberty lift seaplane

LOVE THIS IDEA !

What a great video! Thanks Alex! 100% agree w end statement: once we realize the F22 was canceled because they can make something even better one can only get excited about it 👏👏👏

So could someone help me here? i keep hering the the F-22 did not have off bore targeting but i remember first hearing of this stile of targeting with the F-22s sidwinders could be targeted off bore. it could not do so with it medum to long range missiles but could with its sidewinder.

Alex do you think an F-23 Joint Strike Black Widow would have been a better option for Japan? With its greater range, lower radar return and faster cruise it seems to me that is what they need more. That said as you stated a clean sheet design would obviously be better.

@keirfarnum6811

Жыл бұрын

That’s an option they’ve been looking at. A Japanese version of the F23 is a distinct possibility.

@dondelchulia3189

Жыл бұрын

No point. Would take as long to field as US will take to field 6th gens

@GM-fh5jp

Жыл бұрын

No and no. The F23 was an unarmed prototype that lost in a head to head evaluation to the F22. Why can't fanboys just deal with it instead of babbling on about it in EVERY comment section about the F-22 OR F-35?

@dondelchulia3189

Жыл бұрын

@@GM-fh5jp lol people can’t understand the project was running a lot like the B-2 program, and that’s definitely not a compliment in the eyes of the DOD

@andrewday3206

Жыл бұрын

@@GM-fh5jp The F-23 would be a better aircraft for Japan than the F-22. This is about mission capabilities not anything else. Have you ever worked around fighter jets?

I know you've got this in your sights already, but I just want to reiterate interest in anything you find out about the NGAD. Any updates on that subject is an instant click and watch from me (and I'm sure, a lot of others).

If an hybrid f22/f35 fighter like this was to be made is it really to speculate that basically the entire design would be based on the the f22? I, for example, always had this idea in my mind that the air intake of the f35 would be better.

@jeffbenton6183

Жыл бұрын

I did as well, but I'm not sure it can handle the Raptor's performance. The specific diverterless supersonic inlet that the F-35 uses was only tested up to Mach 2 on board an F-16 prior to being built on production F-35s (which have a top speed of less than Mach 2). I haven't been able to get good information on the internet as to whether or not using one at Mach 2.25 (or maybe even Mach 2.5 as an F-22 with a 3-decades-newer variant of the F-119 might be able to pull) would or would not defy the laws of physics.

important capability left out of your hybrid concept: make it a UCAV. removing all the weight/bulk of needs to support a human operator would increase fuel and/or ordinance load. this concept is anathema to pilots but, if it makes a more capable & less expensive jet. . .

I agree with most of your conclusions in your segment except one. Since when has a clean sheet aircraft been less expensive than improving an existing aircraft and project development also lags behind this kind of development of a new aircraft. I would think using the F22 or YF23 as a starting point would have some cost savings as well as shorten the development period with the emphasis on integrating the F35 technology and better with a stronger airframe with extensive cost cutting on your per hour cost would be optimal?

I say we still should build this hybrid but to supplement the NGAD fighters (but using as many of the same parts as the F-35 to try to save on costs and easing logistics), seeing as we might not build more than 200 of them according to many sources

AN EPISODE ABOUT THE HACKING CAPABILITIES (BOTH KNOW OR ASSUMED) OF THE F35 IN FURTHER DETAIL WOULD BE PRETTY COOL.

It is Fascinating to know that a P-51, has stealth capabilities, (note the clip at 7:00)

Really enjoyed the video and that joint strike raptor would be insane. In your conclusion, you mention some critics and experts think the F-22's agility is not needed in a modern battlefield with beyond visual range munitions. I think this statement only works in a fight with a non-near peer fighter. If a flight of F-22s goes head to head with a flight of foreign fighters with similarly advanced stealth the detection range is cut to 20 miles. That seems like long range but that might mean only 45-60 seconds of time between detection and merge which very well could land some aircraft in a good ole dogfight now with off-boresight capable weapons. If you ask me I would want all the agility I could muster out of an airframe.

@NationChosenByGod

Жыл бұрын

What people don't realize is that stealth coating can be striped off over time due to friction and other factors, so stealth may become obsolete. Whoever says maneuverability is obsolete don't look far ahead.

@t74guard78

Жыл бұрын

There are no fighters with similar advance stealth like the F-22 out there right now or even for the next decade. I mean outside the US. There are no near peer air forces for the US Air Force unless ET surprises the world and drops by for a visit. The F-22 will see the enemy, so called stealthy ones long before they see it. hahahahahhahaa pretty funny.

@AndyDoodle

Жыл бұрын

@@t74guard78 Sure a true near peer with a similar RCS to the F-22 could be a decade away it still will happen. But I am not worried about the F-22 my worry is with the NGAD program. That platform will face such a fighter. The US has a habit of over-committing to new ideas. Just look a Vietnam. It was a known fact missile technology would take over as the main weapon in air warfare but overconfidence in that fact created the condition for F-4s flying over Vietnam with half-baked missiles and no gun. Now a gun is nearly a constant requirement in all programs after the F-4 outside of the F-35 B & C* (* C model can have an external gun added)

They need a 2 engine maybe 2 seat version of the F-35 specifically designed for air superiority

US government wants a hybrid fighter 265 million each. Japan wants the same fighter from the same manufacturer. 208 million each.

The F-22 is still receiving a slew of upgrades through NGAD program being used as a stop gap solution, upgrades include but not limited to-- HMD, Link 16, AIM-260 JATM, and New Stealth Coating! The F-22 isn't going anywhere until NGAD is fully/mostly integrated! They are only retiring a handful lol not like what ppl think🙃😆 They're not retiring a large amount let alone all of them! Again at least not until NGAD!👍

They DEFINITELY should have built that hybrid fighter, no question. Price be damned. Alex, do you have a clip on the rq 180 drone? Fyi, my great great uncle Charles Kettering invented the first cruise missile/drone/torpedo the "Kettering bug".

1:15 what's that dorsal hump on the F35 to the left?

A small RADAR cross section is fine but doesn't address the technique of having separate RADAR transmitters and receivers. How is the RADAR absorption? If it's not very high, the plane is still detectable.

I just imagine the F-22C Raptor II out of Ace Combat 3.

You forgot to mention the new AN/APG-85 derived from APG-81 that is being installed on F35 starting Block4 Lot-17, so APG-85 probably in LRIP already...

"They didn't build them, because they can make something better..." Love that line.

What’s the song at the end of the video?

Will the 5th gen end up be the smallest amount of designed fighters fielded?

In what world does taking the airframe/engines of an existing fighter and the avionics/sensors/radar of a different fighter and putting those together costs as much as designing a whole new plane from the ground up?

All I can say f-35 and f-22 both are badass...but they messed up They should of gone with yf-23 hands down And I wish we would focus more on Lazer warfare for fighter jets instead of missles

What influences has Technical science fiction had on the Aerospace/DARPA design path in both military and civilian spheres since 1950. Any?

F-22/F-35 as a joint strike force over a lone but upgraded hybrid seems to make more sense. The platforms are dissimilar and would require extensive engineering to meld, recalling a thorough analysis of modular systems and software. What about drone assist to reduce the battle fatigue? How much overall development time is available? What can be done with the F-15EX? Not much time left to ponder these critical decisions …

If each plane can shoot down at least 10 -12 planes before needing to get refueled and rearmed then it makes the few they have worth a geometric rate of killing ability.

Dated avionics ... those things are constantly updated. It can do anything the F-35 avionics suite can do. Maintenance costs is the issue.

With the Japanese looking to give the design of the YF-23 a go will be cool If it comes to fruition.

We probably wouldn’t be looking at building the NGAD any time soon if we built the remaining 2/3 of those F-22s.

are you contesting the strike?

Now Imagine an update F-23 with the F-35 avionics and engines. NGAD maybe?

Surely they could upgrade the F22s in service with new avionics and radar systems?

Small nit: Costs for a Hybrid Raptor would fall further if additional aircraft were sold to allies (Like Japan.)

Alex, the joy and power of thrust vectoring is trim and drag reduction, aka fuel savings, not aerobatics. And while everyone keeps this "Dog Fights are dead", Ask Tom Brady, does anything survive contact with the foe?

Don't forget to replace the F-22's IFDL with the F-35's MADL. The difference between the two is considerable.

“A relic of a bygone era of dogfighting …” I’m pretty sure that is what they said in Vietnam and how did that work out?

Dale Brown wrote about aircraft using cyber-offensive attack systems but i thought that was a whole-cloth invention

Did this was easy money. Everyone who knew anything about either project knew this was what were needed. I would’ve rather had 96 full up combat coded hybrids with maybe a dozen LRIP/development aircraft as spares upgrade test beds. We could’ve put all existing raptors in type 1000, and scaled back f35 by 200 or so and still been better off I think.

F-69 and F/A-69, we need the Air Force and Navy to come together on this one thing.

had the F22 remained in production, this seems like it would've been the inevitable progression, if it stuck around long enough to warrant the development of B or C models. It'd be the "high" to the F35's "low." still, i can only guess and speculate this hypothetical hybrid will be what we see in the NGAD, if not the framework from which something even more capable or classified will have started from.

A twin engine twin seat version of the F-35 that shares major F-35 parts would be good to have if the F-22 is being phased out.

@ferrous3262

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probably a waste of time and money to make a twin engine f-35 when a new and better plane could be built

@dgd947a15fl

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@@ferrous3262 Yeah, maybe something with twin engines and twin seats, with range, maneuverability, and max load like an F-15 or better but also the stealth of an F-35/F-22 and with overlapping components with the F-35. Carrier capable, but no STOVL. I have an itch that the new B-21 bomber is going to turn out to share a lot of overlapping parts with the F-35 and that's how they plan to make so many and at such a low cost per unit and low maintenance. Because the B-21 is probably just a bunch of F-35 bits rearranged like a stealth bomber. If so, trying to redo the F-22 with F-35 parts this time might not be a bad idea.

I would think this hybrid would have been desired to be a little larger, for the purpose of larger internal fuel capacity?

@michaelwilliams3104

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Probably, not only for fuel but also more internal weapons and allowing for a modular design like some else in the comments had mentioned.

@meanman6992

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@@michaelwilliams3104 good points as well, I was just under the impression the F22 doesn’t have the longest legs fuel wise which I assume can be problematic

nice but data fusion doesn't stop long range AI enhanced IR missiles

If maneuverability won't be relevant anymore and (very) long air combat will be the dominant type of air-to-air engagement then why not re-purpose the B-1 to a carrier platform for AIM-120s??

@t74guard78

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Cause it is old and cost to much per hour to fly. Also the AIM-120's range would put the B1 well within the enemies missile range. When the AIM-260 comes out, then that is a different story but again, the B1 is old and expensive to fly.

@thomas_jay

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@@t74guard78 Even in comparison to several F-22s? And if so, then the USAF could simply use B-52s and load them up with AA missiles. The navy had a similiar concept with the arsenal ship. It's less "sexy" and glamorous, though.

Sandboxx finds out about the Sandbox. :)

In Dogfights of the Future they said the F-22 had built in space allocated for upgraded avionics and was intended to use the same HMD as the F-35. So why not upgrade the F-22s avionics at a minimum?

I still think we should keep this idea on ice in case any of our allies' "6th gen" programs fail and they are looking for an alternative. I say that not only because of the cooperation problems in the programs like between the French and Germans, but because both FCAS and GCAP say they want an air superiority fighter, but also an affordable aircraft. Based on what the US is saying about the expected price, we can expect it would be even higher for countries that do not have the industrial base for even 5th gen fighters. In that case, they are either going to get an affordable aircraft that is not actually a 6th gen air superiority fighter or they will get a 6th gen air superiority fighter at a much higher price than they wanted. Once they start realizing that, something like the F-22/F-35 hybrid could sound pretty good, especially if it has some of the backwards compatible 6th gen developments like the F-22 is said to be getting.

giving up on the raptor is not only shortsighted but dangerous in a time of tension. BVR is great but if a 35 is somehow confronted by close in adversaries it would probably would have to run. I don't see why the 22 could not be ungraded to 35 comm standards. Expensive I know but this close to war we must be ready for anything.

People always talk about the raptor having such a small radar cross section and never bring up from what side. I bet that from straight ahead.