"K-O-T-O-R". Ugh. Just say KOTOR.

@jackiemortes

7 жыл бұрын

couldn't believe my own ears when I heard how he spelled it

@MizanQistina

7 жыл бұрын

Kotor in my language (Malaysian) means "dirty" :)

@brixenchright1819

7 жыл бұрын

He actually said it pretty well so I give em props for that

@tresixteen

7 жыл бұрын

so much cringe

@latvianman3433

6 жыл бұрын

ffs. Right?!

Kotor 1 + 2 are well deserved of a remaster with restored content

@notafgt1107

6 жыл бұрын

MrLGD1234 Sadly Disney would'nt do that

@MrLGD1234

6 жыл бұрын

Not a Fgt fans can dream

@ThatMidnightRambler

6 жыл бұрын

I agree but I PRAY they stay far the fuck away from this time period in their new trilogy. It's still in my canon and I do not want it ruined by disney.

@MrLGD1234

6 жыл бұрын

If there’s money to be made then Disney will touch it, I think they’re more inclined to take inspiration from the legends canon; Kylo Rens helmet and outfit are based on Revans. I doubt they’ll try and replicate the story’s themselves

@bonumfatum457

6 жыл бұрын

Look up Apeiron. You're welcome.

"You were blinded." "And at last... you saw."

@malachibeltran5298

6 жыл бұрын

chocoman45 then Kreia went and basically severed the masters ties to the force and left them dead

@darthXreven

5 жыл бұрын

"he cannot fight what he cannot see and power has blinded him long ago" another good line lolz

@callmetopgun45

4 жыл бұрын

Bro The first time I heard that I literally cried. So damn beautiful

@antonhallergren588

2 жыл бұрын

@@malachibeltran5298 she just showed them life though the eyes of the exile. They responded by dying

I've never heard of a game called Kayoteeyowarr

@tHeWasTeDYouTh

6 жыл бұрын

HOLY shit i read this before the video and once i heard it and it clicked i laughed so hard

@Hazaroth

6 жыл бұрын

I was like just say k’oh tor

@javierr.castillo1101

5 жыл бұрын

Oh ya. Kayoteeyowarr. I know that game. Thats the japanese kayak simulator game.

@Jayll1984

5 жыл бұрын

damn meatbags!

@bouttreefiddy6163

5 жыл бұрын

I guess you missed kayoteeyowarrtoo as well

Kreia has the best lines, but this one is my favorite: "it is such a quiet thing, to fall. But far more terrible is to admit it". Subtle but very powerful, as only the truth can be....when we admit it for ourselves.

@CHANN3L_NAME

3 жыл бұрын

Yes indeed I do

Nihilus: Very hungry caterpillar Sion: Literally too angry to die Traya: Queen of all Edgelords.

The way you say KOTOR hurts my feelings... :(

@grahamecuthbert6513

6 жыл бұрын

Wade Louis ŕrŕđ

@jack247811

6 жыл бұрын

Wade Louis fuck your feelings

@dreamingflurry2729

6 жыл бұрын

*mumbles something about lack of faith makes chocking gestures* :D ^^ (his video isn't bad, but why he doesn't just say KOTOR is baffling!) ps: I am not even an English native speaker and I would never have thought about spelling it out, why? Hell, we Germans call it KOTOR as well, with a german pronounciation :)

kotor1 and 2 story and depth are superior to all the films imo

@Majin_Koolaid

6 жыл бұрын

alex pears it could be compressed to a trilogy

@hotsauce1690

6 жыл бұрын

Totally. I agree. I just wish they could somehow turn each game into their own trilogies. Kotor 1 would be 3 movies and so would the second one.

@dreamingflurry2729

6 жыл бұрын

Indeed - probably why Disney nuked it! They didn't like being overshadowed by the supplementary material (Lukas himself on the other hand had no problem with this, hell the guy worked with writers, comic-artists, game-devs etc. to make a lot of these products (while reserving the right to change things later on, but truly: He never did declare stuff non-canon outright, so he never felt threatened, which shows that he isn't/wasn't a close minded fool like those people at Disney!)) :(

@CptRexFilms987654321

6 жыл бұрын

DreamingFlurry That’s something that was always overlooked about George. He was always willing to collaborate and while the property belonged to him, he never felt threatened by the ideas of others. Disney could learn a thing from him.

@Necroskull388

6 жыл бұрын

Ehhh... I like KotOR 1 but it was very much in the vein of traditional video games. KotOR II is in a different league than KotOR 1.

Never spell KOTOR out.

Wow so FUCKING good to see people that actually recognize how good KOTOR TSL was, and how fucking good Obsidian did ..with the time frame they had. FUCK Lucasarts for rushing them.

@dzigayu4944

7 жыл бұрын

Kotor II, the best game that never happened...

@SockPupet

6 жыл бұрын

The biggest problem I had with Kotor II, and it is among my favorite RPGs, is their where never any good or nuanced replies for your character. Nothing even remotely worthy of discourse with Kreia, you were literally a strawman for her to cut down in the dialog options.

@DDogg43777

6 жыл бұрын

Sock Pupet1984 I agree. She would go very deep and talk fairly well about these philosophical concepts. The philosophy itself, story, and meaning, were still shown well, but there were quite a few moments where I felt like I wanted to say something other than the options given to me. ^Granted, this is true in every game where you are given dialogue options, but KOTOR II was the worst at it-despite it being one of my favorites of these games.

if you are spelling out kotor you could as well say the full name...

@ddynamite3835

6 жыл бұрын

andi le it's pronounced koh-tour

Um...the reason why those other KOTOR female characters aren't called "Mary Sues" is because they apparently have real TRAINING. They know how to use a lightsaber and the force. They were TAUGHT. Rey wasn't taught at all, yet defeated a skilled and trained dark side user. It matters not that Kylo was injured. He barely defeats Finn and then gets his ass kicked by a girl that he should have easily beaten.

@idrlabs

6 жыл бұрын

There are other reasons too. We have a video discussing it: kzread.info/dash/bejne/o5iHt86pk5mdibA.html

@dar-nakkallig

5 жыл бұрын

The Exile was a well trained Jedi. He/She trained “ The blinded one” and/or “The last handmaiden” into great Jediwhich means the Exile is a well trained Jedi.

@rcslyman8929

5 жыл бұрын

Dar-Nak Kallig Canonically (in the KotOR universe), it would be "she". And yes, she was a great Jedi. Revan says so himself that she was one of his greatest allies.

@leonardorossi998

5 жыл бұрын

Ok, but KOTOR works on the d20 system. Which means Rey could beat a stronger and more experienced opponent. Provided she rolled enough natural 20s. Or Kylo being unable to roll higher than 5.

@dar-nakkallig

5 жыл бұрын

RC Slyman yes I know and I am talking about the game and the game alone not the game in the total Star Wars lore

I love you guys so much - my obsession with Kreia was my introduction to typology...

" to be united by hatred is a... fragile alliance at best." one of the coolest lines in all of star wars. man you hit the nail on the head with this video man great work dude!

@CHANN3L_NAME

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I also enjoy the musical theme in the background

For better or worse Kreia actually influenced my life philosophy, I took from her what I could to make myself stronger. I learned to heal is to manipulate, and I learned not to feel ashamed of this necessity.

This video did not go in the direction I had anticipated, although I enjoyed it very much. I was expecting more of a discussion of the main character, who causes a wound within the force, after losing so many people with whom she has a connection. Kreia wants to open a larger wound, to kill or disconnect the force entirely and emancipate the denizens of the universe (seems very "god is dead", or something like that, the details are not clear to me, it has been so long since I played the game). I also thought more would be made of the triad of sith lords in the game: Nihilus who is so hungry for power that he is quite literally being consumed by his hunger, and Sion who chooses a life of eternal torment rather than permitting himself to die a mortal death, by willing his continued existence. The dynamics of the Jedi Council are also very interesting, particularly when they are all again reunited, and turn on the main character, considering them too dangerous to be left alive. There is so so much to be made of KOTOR 2, it really is a testament to the narrative richness of the game.

@Eckskalibur

7 жыл бұрын

Tom T From another in-depth study video I watched analyzing Kreia, it seems more that she's a very active, if not very elusive in how to tackle her goal, nihilist. She sees the bigger picture that almost both sides of the force innately ignore, is that both crave control fueled by the Force. How to do so, whether it'd be passive peace or aggressive domination, is irrelevant when in the end the Force is recognized as a "living entity" and has shown in the grand scheme of things planning very roundabout ways to "balance out" the 2 sides. If nothing, she is the true manifestation of this world's evil, to its core, because she essentially chooses to strip away a "force" that governs the world she lives in in all its aspects. Or in the bigger picture of things, to the powerful groups that can shape the galaxy known as the Jedi and Sith.

@georgedang449

7 жыл бұрын

Kreia is not "true manifestation of this world's evil." Quote from Kreia "I hate how the force seems to have a will of its own, killing countless trillions just to achieve a measure of balance." The is the same realization that Luke in The Last Jedi came to. The force has a will of its own, whenever you introduce light, the force will counterbalance it by introducing an equal and opposite darkness, creating conflict and death in the process. The difference is Luke chose nihilism, to give up, in order to avoid conflict produced by the Force while trying to balance itself. While Kreia chose to defy the Force and fight it, kill it, so that she can change the galaxy for the better, without the Force negating it.

@Eckskalibur

7 жыл бұрын

George Dang I suppose "true manifestation of this world's evil." is an exaggerated title. More so a fitting title would be the antagonist to the Force. True, evil in the end is subjective when you look at the bigger picture of what Kreia's actions would lead to if she succeeded in her plans, but it doesn't change the fact that on the side of both the passive and aggressive sides of Force users who are deemed to be leading forces of change and status quos of their galaxies, it wouldn't be off the batting range that Kreia were to be titled as an ultimate villain, at least when seeing her through the simplest and top layer of her character. Don't misunderstand though, I completely agree that she is more complex when looked thoroughly into and could be deemed as a true hero to all in her galaxy, but when compared to the history and lore of the Star Wars universe, both canon and Legends, she seems to antagonize near everything that the galaxy simply accepts as fact that the Force is an integral part of life.

@charlesdickinson6341

6 жыл бұрын

Tom T Yes, well... It's my understanding that Neitsche was the grandfather of the modern "God is dead" movement, so that comparison would be more than valid (unless I'm wrong about old Freidrich, in which case, never mind).

@theblackcockatoo4799

6 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/X45ktZKTaM-7hMo.html this KZreadr made an in-depth analysis of Kreia's character and the theme of Force dependence in the star wars universe. I recommend this very much.

I played Kotor 2 for so many hours. Its one of my top 10 for sure. Both Nihilus and Sion were very interesting foes

@jimmu8689

6 жыл бұрын

Frank Starship I agree despite preferring KOTOR 1 I think that my enemies were better in kotor 2

@illumi9044

4 жыл бұрын

@@jimmu8689 Same!!!

@CHANN3L_NAME

3 жыл бұрын

One must not speak of those traitors nihilus and sion without bringing up me the one and only traya

I agree, Disney can learn so much from KOTOR 2. It was an excellent deconstruction of the franchise. HOWEVER~ I'm not too sure you properly understand exactly what the game is getting at. It's not saying good and evil don't exist, quite the opposite. It reinforces that dichotomy of Star Wars while also acknowledging the lack of a normal moral spectrum like the one we have in real like (Definite evil and good at both ends, with grey stuff in the middle). The conclusion the game comes to is really fucking clever- The Force is the real bad guy, because by using it, it removes one's free will. From there, the person is left with two choices, either forsake humanity and become selfless, or embrace humanity and become selfish agents of Evil. The Jedi are only "good" and the Sith are only "evil" because there is no alternative. This game addresses that, asks why it is that way, and comes to the conclusion that the Force is the reason.

@darthnihilus7951

4 жыл бұрын

Nice fucking comment food, well said

@Spectre1301

4 жыл бұрын

@Aaron Jacobson Oh you play as a grey Jedi in Kotor 2? Interesting. Can you elaborate further on how you played as a grey Jedi? Like what choices/morality actions you did in game etc. And if you literally kept your force alignment at the middle or you're a light side that still do neutral/morally questionable acts? You see, I've always liked the grey jedi ever since I heard about them but I always play light side because: one, for practical reasons since being at max alignment give you a nice stat bonus. For instance, if you're a consular/jedi master and at max light side you gain a whopping + 6 bonus to Wisdom lol. And two, I felt that even if your playing light side the exile still feels like a gray Jedi since there are more neutral options compared to Kotor 1 and if you did do a morally questionable/dark side act you can make up for it by doing good/light side acts later on in the game.

@Esakosarara

4 жыл бұрын

You're so wrong, the Game NEVER says the jedi are good because they have no choice, actually the jedi in kotor 2 are huge dicks and cowards. Also, if the force forced them (no pun intended) to be good, none of them would fall to the dark side...

@BigUriel

4 жыл бұрын

@@Spectre1301 The fact that being on either end of the spectrum makes you more powerful than staying neutral kind of ties into the plot if you think about it: the Force is playing both sides and it wants you to pick one, and rewards you for it.

@efxnews4776

3 жыл бұрын

The problem is: The Force isn't the "bad guy" here... Is the sith/jedi dogma surrounding, despite what Kreia belief, she herself ended up point this out in the game, she said that about acts of charity / agression, and by saying that she left open a third choice. Also, theres another character from the same age that point this out with a more positive outlook: Jolee Bindo in kotor 1. You don't need to be a jedi or a sith, Bindo say this to Bastila and ask her to see him not as a jedi, but as just another companion that happens to have a lightsaber and force powers. So yeah! There is a choice beyond the jedi or sith, is usually called grey jedi altough in the case of Kreia, you should argue that is more like a grey sith. Even Luke is more like a grey sith than an actual jedi. Theres other characters in kotor 1 that are more or less grey, in the sith academy in the first game you find a whole bunch of them.

KOTOR 2 was a brilliant story that, unfortunately, got rushed out the door. Thus having the end truncated and fizzling worse than Mass Effect 3. But damn, was playing through it fun as hell. "Statement: Oh, yes. My master had quite the collection of tortured individuals that seemed unable to confront their basic personality conflicts. Let me cite some specific examples. Mockery: '[Carth] Oh master! I do not trust you! I cannot trust you, or anyone, ever again!' Mockery: '[Bastilla] Oh master, I love you, but I hate all you stand for. But I think we should press our slimy, mucous-covered lips together in the cargo hold!' Conclusion: Such pheromone-driven human responses never cease to decrease the charge in my capacitors and make me wish I could press a blaster pistol to my behavior core and pull the trigger."

@dim-flower

5 жыл бұрын

Revan Hail master revan

Certain Scenes Courtesy of KnightsandDarths: kzread.info

@princeaaronnicholson4342

6 жыл бұрын

IDR Labs. Raven with the Sith mask Is my favorite jedi.and raven friends i think raven movie 🎬Wil be nice 2 see .kotor game 1&2. Is good but it. Missing something.🎮

@johnymey4034

6 жыл бұрын

There is no such thing as "Raven". You are not a fan, you don't understand anything about the game or universe. Never play , or talk about R E V A N , or anything in ToR ever again.

@blakereed1654

6 жыл бұрын

IDRlabs Every character in KOTOR is a trained individual with balanced, rising character development. Rey is a stupid Mary Sue trope put in place to promote feminist agenda lol I hope she dies in the next movie. Kreia was my favorite character of all time, because every time I listened to her script in the game, I found myself learning something new, especially with a different outlook on life.

@Nyarlathotep_Flagg

5 жыл бұрын

Considering the role she played in the order, and her very deep philosophy - I'd have to throughly disagree with you. She's an INTP, someone who prefers to observe and consider carefully before rendering a judgment which they are willing to part with if it proves incorrect. She's fully willing to change her mind, as her story clearly shows. Far more so than most all the other Jedi. And so, I say she's an INTP, centered around philosophy. While Palpatine is an INTJ, greatly focused on results, status and changes in the material realm. That is actually the truth of it aswell. INTJ's are generally mentally immature and highly emotional, they just generally suppress that emotion to deal with situations. INTP's are generally very mature, truly calm and collected to a fault. And INTP is generally slow to act, although they are often quick to adapt to new information. But they will choose to spend a lot of time to analyze all the data, and simulate possible scenarios(so as to avoid misfortune). Many are HIGHLY skilled at this, to the point where it can seem like they read your mind, see through lies and predict the future. Some of them are very accomplished conmen, although they generally hate lies as it is flawed data to them, which corrupts the simulations/calculations they make(and wishes for others to make). They are the most logical of all the personality types. And Kreia is clearly one. There's a reason a INTJ is often applied to villains, it is because they are in some ways rather shallow, even though they are smart. Their goals are highly "real world" oriented, they want immediate and tangible results. Plagueis is one of the rare few INTP's who operates almost like an INTJ. He is a real philosopher at heart, and not as quick to judge as his master was(in spite of being a dark lord). When faced with a large issue, it is the INTJ way to make small plans for the immediate situation and start working on it at once. While an INTP will take a step back and first try to work out the big picture, and then try work out plans to fit this bigger plans. An INTP is basically someone who is concerned with more layers, while an INTJ is more focused on the situation at hand(though both are generally incredibly smart). The INTJ is more goal oriented, and the INTP is more about trying to figure out how the world works. INTP=Philosopher, Logician, Scientist, Advisor, The Power Behind the Throne. INTJ=Engineer, Architect, Battlefield Commander, Blitzkrieg Strategist, Dictator. Revan is the closest to a meld you could probably ever come. I can not place him as INTJ, or INTP. Considering how he sometimes steps back, and reconsiders his stance - I would like to say INTP(at least his gray/light side version). He also often speaks of philosophy and abstract goals. But he is also heavily focused on real world effects, and the one to go and face the problems head on. His Dark Side version was also quite willing to accept most any collateral damage, and even during his early days as a Jedi in the Mandalorian wars - He was quite ready to overlook philosophical issues with his actions(in order to reach his goals). In the end I'd have to say that Revan truly is the ultimate half-way between the two. Just as he stands between the light and the dark side of the force.

Kreia was so incredibly well written and voiced. Still amazing. The vid The Philosophy Of Kreia on KZread is a must see.

if they make kotor movies ... then i can finally die at peace...

@ThatMidnightRambler

6 жыл бұрын

rixx WalkerBEATZ or they'll ruin it and you'll come back as a ghost and live through that piece of shit every day 🤣 I hope they stay far far away from the old republic

@Walamonga1313

6 жыл бұрын

rixx WalkerBEATZ Ruined in an instant by Disney

@deeta000

6 жыл бұрын

Oh god no. I don’t want Disney touching these games or any lore.

@leonardorossi998

5 жыл бұрын

Denis Villeneuve says he'd be interested in making a Star Wars spinoff. Quick! Let's throw Kotor 2 copies at him!

KotOR II is probably my all time favorite SW story. Interesting relationships, complex characters, and great plot twists that enhance the story rather than negating it.

YESS!!! I LOVE KOTOR II!!! ESPECIALLY KREIA!

@zaljkopetrescu2177

6 жыл бұрын

Mr. Grimm if the game wouldn’t have been a buggy, unfinished mess upon release, perhaps...

@vladskiobi

4 жыл бұрын

Disney: REY IS A STRONG WOMAN AND THE FIRST STRONG WOMAN IS STAR WARS Meetra, Kreia and Bastila: >:(

@SardonicJosh

4 жыл бұрын

@@zaljkopetrescu2177 yes, they were restricted due to the deadline. That's why we have TSLRCM ^-^

@SardonicJosh

4 жыл бұрын

@@vladskiobi Ahsoka! >:(

@CHANN3L_NAME

3 жыл бұрын

Why thank you

Really enjoyed this. I had really hoped that TFA writers might have played the KOTOR games and would take inspiration from them. As you said, the games really did have a unique atmosphere - the designers managed to perfectly capture the vastness and eeriness of the world where a few Sith Lords reign by isolating themselves in corners of a fragmented galaxy. I loved how talking with Nihilus, Kreia and Sion would give you the sense that time passing was utterly insignificant, as it would be to them. Someone should make a kickstarter for KOTOR 3!

@charlesdickinson6341

6 жыл бұрын

Matt Hew Except that the producers, directors and Di$ney only wanted to use the Star Wars brand as a ca$h cow, not a means to tell a good story. Whether they played the Kotor series or not, they still had the greedy mindset, and disdain for the fans. I always wanted the Thrawn trilogy on film, but NOOOO...

I liked Rogue One because it, even flawed as it is, did some original stuff with the Star Wars Universe. It made the war feel real, and it did a good job at showing how much sacrifice went into rebelling against the Empire. We also saw new places, learnt new things about the universe and all of that while covering a plot hole. In summary, it expanded the universe. And that's why I dislike The Force Awakens: 1- It copied the story of A New Hope, and set a plot that is the perfect foundation for the next two movies to copy Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. 2- But at least it gave us new places, right? Not really. It copied Tatooine and called it Jakku, took Endor and gave it smaller trees and a lake and called it Takodana, did so much of a good job copying Yavin 4 that I didn't realize that planet was actually a new one called D'qar, and fused Hoth and the Death Star together to create the Starkiller base. 3- The prequels show that, while you could see certain similarities between some ships, like the ARC-170 and the X-wing or the V-wing and the TIE fighter, they actually did evolve in those 20 years that separate the prequels and the originals. Rogue One reused the ships and starfighters from the original trilogy for obvious reasons, but at least they gave us a new gunship, the U-wing. The Force Awakens has no excuse for reusing every fucking ship. The star destroyer, the X-wing and the TIE fighters are practically the same. No originality at all. 4- The characters are boring. Rey is Luke with boobs and a Mary Sue complex. Finn is kinda likeable, but I don't get why they expect us to believe a soldier trained from birth is gonna start crying in his first mission and have a completely regular personality, instead of something you'd expect from a brainwashed soldier. I like Poe, but he's just Han Solo. BB-8 is a overly cute R2-D2. The only interesting character is Kylo Ren, because he's probably the only kind of original thing in the movie. PS: Sorry, I know this is kinda out of topic, but it really is a shame the new trilogy is looking so lame when the Star Wars Universe has the potential to be so much more.

@DAshBFJEY

7 жыл бұрын

The Lizard Wizard well its all bout the kids

@nickandrino8386

7 жыл бұрын

The Lizard Wizard I agree with you. What I enjoyed about Rogue one was that is showed a darker part of Star Wars, like a grey area that fans don't get to see. Kotor 1 is good but it was like a typical Star Wars film, saw good vs bad. Rogue one showed a grey area that reminded fans of Kotor 2.

@Kissamiess

6 жыл бұрын

I think that darker, real war in the trenches feel is what R1 was going for, but failed largely because of excecutive meddling. Or that's my uninformed guess at any rate. It might have been good if it was made like that. Now it just failed to make me care.

@andyrihn1

6 жыл бұрын

Part of the extensive edits and reshoots for Rogue One was to make it look less like Saw Gurerra and Jyn Erso were terrorists. Disney actively wants to avoid moral ambiguity

@nick5661

6 жыл бұрын

There is some change to the first order tie fighter aft weapons a hyperdrive so they do improve the design. But irl you will find that when a military finds a vehicle that works they improve on it but don’t replace it for many years and the x wing proved itself time and time again.

It was one of the best games I played in a very very long time and I still to this day I have yet to play a game so good.

Most Star Wars fans would hate KOTOR 2 to be turned into a movie, because Kreia is not a powerful force user, who decided to take a neutral stance and not commit to the Jedi or Sith cause. She didn't want the protagonist to be free from the petty power strugles between Jedi and Sith and think for himself/herself. She became a Jedi, a Sith and then started to hate the force so much, that she wanted to destroy it and every force sensitive creature in the universe. Her philosophy actually makes a lot of sense, but the implications would make a lot of fans hate a KOTOR 2 movie, because it'd go against everything they love about this franchise, which is why I love this game so much.

@laurentguyot3362

6 жыл бұрын

I'm a big star war fan and I would love a movie with a villain like kreia. A story where luck would become a Kreia like charactere would be great

@khm8910

6 жыл бұрын

Laurent Guyot It’s really ironic too. Kreia is not only one of the greatest antagonist, she is also one of the greatest mentors.

@revanruler6404

6 жыл бұрын

REAL star wars fans love KOTOR 2, MOVIE star wars fans would hate because they're just casuals

@SkintSNIPER262

5 жыл бұрын

Revan Ruler No, kreia ruins the whole dynamics of SW with he story.

Oh, and people who are turned off by the graphics because that's all you care for, It is super easy to mod this game, and download mods for this game. You can make it look spectacular.

We need a TV series like Kotor 1&2 than we have the time to get into a great story ;J

11:23 This line always gave me the chills

KayOhTeeOhaRR 2. That's the first time i've heard someone say Kotor like that. Most just tend to say "kotor" as it is. XD

"Your senses betray you. As you betrayed me."

Say Kotor as one word my man. Saying the letters individually is cumbersome.

That moment when KOTOR 2 Music makes watching TFA footage bearable

K O T O R 2 it's so awkward hearing it said like this.

Kay-oh-tee-oh-are-two sounds like you’re talking about a droid lol.

100% agree. The bar needs to be raised not just for Star Wars, but for entertainment in general.

I love how they mention Revan so much in this game even though he isn’t present

Finally, someone gave a voice to my frustration with the recent films and why I love this game. Thank you!

“Are you an angel? That’s the worst line I’ve ever used. Hope some poor kid never uses it!” I love Atton

Brands get built by resonating with archetypal myths, then destroyed by commercialization and soulless copying by people that didn't understand what made the original great.

omg say kotor... do it!

I believe the reason KOTOR II wasn't as successful as the first one was not because of the time rush per se, but because of how deep it was. The first one was a pretty black and white, pure good vs pure evil grand scale story, like the movies. The second on the other hand was much more deep and complex as you mentioned. Also much more raw and real. I think the complexity turned away some more casual types. All that being said I love them both and the second game more so.

@ankstuhful

6 жыл бұрын

burntheashesband I second that. I loved KOTOR 2 more than the first one. The twist involved in the first one is what got everyone riled up, but the second one was DEEP and profound.

@kevintran8539

6 жыл бұрын

And I think that's why movies don't do well when they're deep and philosophical. It's just cemented now that that's not what the general population wants; if it was, then most indy films would be doing a lot better. Granted, most indy films aren't exciting to begin with, but one could argue that, given a Marvel-like budget, anything can be prettied up, but pretty doesn't necessarily mean good or deep.

You know I always considered myself a Star Wars Fan but now with TFA and Rogue One out, I realize that I don´t really like 6 out of 8 Star Wars Films. I think Star Wars has suffered the same fate as Star Trek. Once you dip your toe into the world of commercialization and focus groups, it becomes hard to get out of it again because now you´ve reached a much wider audience which demands this exact kind of approach. That is why we will never see truly great Star Wars and Star Trek films on the big screen ever again. It´s just not what modern day spectacle obsessed audiences are craving for. Especially the current nerd culture that cares more about brand names and familiar superficial imagery than about the quality behind the brand, has to take a big junk of the blame for this.

@JuicefromConcentrate

7 жыл бұрын

What didn't you like about Rogue One?

@JaCkmArc0

7 жыл бұрын

The characters and the plot. It arguably had the best effects in any Star Wars film, unfortunately though I couldn´t really enjoy them because I didn´t give a shit about anything that happened because I didn´t care about any of the characters. That´s why the Vader scene in the end was so great. He was the only character in the film, I had any attachment to.

@phteve1900

7 жыл бұрын

Rumor has it the ROGUE group were supposed to become the Knights of Ren, being captured, tortured, and brainwashed by Vader and Palpatine, in order to hunt down Sith Relics. Buuuuut it was reshot because 'that's too dark". Look at the original trailers. TOTALLY different ending.

@stevenirizarry1304

7 жыл бұрын

Jack Marco I'm truly glad that you are not gonna enjoy star wars...TFA had a real story...while whatever shit you like is trash

@stevenirizarry1304

7 жыл бұрын

Phteve rogue one characters sucked...no amount of darkness would have fixed them

did you really just say kay oh tee oh are? pretty much any normal person just pronounces it as koh-tor

@mrtom-a-hawk6732

6 жыл бұрын

Guess what, he’s not normal bitch. Stop encouraging people to be like the rest.

@teedepefanio5687

6 жыл бұрын

Mr Tom-A-hawk he's not, bitch. He's merely stating that we'd like to FUCKING understand the guy, you can't see that? Being understood is very important.

@TheSuaveLion_

6 жыл бұрын

Can't you understand 5 letters spoken in a sequence? Who cares how he says it, we can all understand.

@genesisbustamante-durian

5 жыл бұрын

"normal person" Hahaha.

Dude... K-O-T-O-R? Just say KOTOR, KO-TOR...

One of the best moment in KOTOR 2 is talking to Kreia, you can really feel the tension in the conversation, discussing interesting topics, unlike many other linear dialogues.

Man Obsidian is always being rushed. Just like Fallout New Vegas -- which is my favorite game of all time, but it was rushed and buggy as a result.

@username1660

6 жыл бұрын

New Vegas wasn't rushed, Obisidan agreed to the date set by Bethesda.

@Walamonga1313

6 жыл бұрын

Armoured Productions They were rushed for KOTOR 2 but not for New Vegas. The problem with them is that they bite more than they can chew, which is a good and bad thing. Good because it has always given us tons of stuff to do and bad because it sometimes goes to waste (as in you can't play that because it's unfinished or buggy).

@khm8910

6 жыл бұрын

That’s where the modding community comes in for the fallout games. Mainly to improve the game long after launch.

@JTtopcat

6 жыл бұрын

Probably why South Park the stick of truth was delayed.

Nice video, although I gotta say: >respects the nuances of Nietzsche, and how him and kreia challenged arbitrary labels >use personality types/labels to describe the characters actions and motivation

@idrlabs

6 жыл бұрын

See my other comment about external and internal fate. :) Nietzsche doesn't say that there are no external influences on you to begin with; only that you should attempt to surpass these in the quest to achieve individuality.

The best star wars story that thousand of people have experienced from multiple points of view

The minute Myers-Briggs was brought into this, I checked out. Please stay up to date on science.

I played this game first. 13 years ago. I loved it especially Darth Sion, HK-47 and Korriban.

I think you guys were the first to introduce me to this game, and then the philosophy of Kreia came out and then everybody started talking about it.

Yes yes! I’m glad there are people out there who see kotor as the supreme Star Wars story regardless of how old kotor 1 and 2 are!

Nice video, except the "kay-oh-tee-oh-ar two" part lol. A big mouthful. Most people understand what you mean with "koh-tor" I agree, there is so much potential in the Star Wars universe wasted by bad writing and appeal to showy schlock. The last couple seasons of Clone Wars and Rebels seem to come the closest we'll ever get to the quality of character development and expansion of the star wars universe KOTOR and Zahn novels do.

HK-47 was the true hero of KOTOR 1 AND 2. Everyone else was just organic meatbags.

“I hate the force, so it must die” 11/10 best char ever

One of my all time favorites especially with the cut content restored mod I might have to give it another playthrough :)

”Kay oh tee oh are two”

Its so dense, every single image has so many things going on!

Kotor 2's soundtrack is what set the mood for me. The suspense right away

We need a KOTOR 3 that builds on top of what KOTOR 2 did, specifically that Revan sacrificed himself to the Dark side

a rated R movie about reven and The whole Mandalorian wars stuff and how that all happened and turned him into a sith… but kotor 2? Live action Krea and Darth nihilus? That would be soooooo epic!

The remastered version really helped make this game so much better

Kreia kick started an era where every mentor type character in a video game ended up betraying you in the end. It got very annoying. and for the love of god KOTOR is said as a single word.

Kotor 1 & 2 will forever be in my heart

I just finished KotOR 1 and I’m currently playing KotOR 2 😂😂

The Jedi Exile is my favorite MC in all of fiction.

Kreia is the best female character in all of Star Wars imo. Mostly because of the way she sees not just the force, but everything that happens around her. She doesn't see things as "evil" or "good", or the force as "light side" or "dark side". To Kreia, everything has consequenses and the force is just the force. Another cool thing is that she hates the force, because she thinks it manipulates the user to do as it pleases. Disney has a lot to learn.

Totally agree well done.

Sad that there’ll never be a Star Wars game even close to this

Best SW game so far. The story is amazing. Played it back when it came out and like 4 months ago. Loved it even more now.

Hello there! First approach I heard about focusing on Jungțs types and KOTOR 2....very interesting, mate! Loved it...Ițm going to keep an eye out for other psy viewpoints on SW characters from you... Good luck!

What held me as a Star Wars fan as an adult is the idea that Kotor 1 and 2 exists.

KOTOR 2 simply has to be one of, if not the most complex and interesting stories in anything.

She's my favourite character in anything ever and developed my morality as I played the game while young. She's the only character where at first you don't know what to say to please her

LOL your character is cloned from the DNA of the mighty Bastila. CHEERS!

I first played through kotor 2 as a child it was the first game I played on my original xbox. I didn't fully understand everything in it so I didn't enjoy it as much. then about 12 years later I played through it again and realized how great it truly was. It takes comprehension to truly grasp the full depth behind stories like Kotor 2.

Taken separately, if you Google Translate "Arren"; it means "Successfully" and "Kae", means "Change". "Successfully Change"

When you wish we got a Meetra Surik movie instead

This was so necesary. Thanks

excellent, intelligent video. It is the first I have seen of yours and am subscribing. Would be great to get a psychological breakdown of other major characters to see if they suffer of narcissistic or borderline disorder, if they are projecting, splitting, denying, etc.

I like palpatine's evil laughter

Damn you. I haven't given any thought about their gender until you said so. Why do we have to live in a time, where we have to point out female gender? How are we supposed to treat women as equal if we have to point out there are female, when it's unnecassery?

this game is literally awesome man literally im still waiting on knights of the old republic 3

@cclark8280

6 жыл бұрын

Acrbeast44 you and me both

@5point0h67

6 жыл бұрын

Acrbeast44 I’m 25 now and am still waiting for Kotor 3..

@ankstuhful

6 жыл бұрын

Don't mean to break your hearts but the MMO (Star Wars: The Old Republic) was said to be like a KOTOR 3-10. Which is stupid I think. Who plays MMOs? So no KOTOR 3 in the foreseeable future.

@5point0h67

6 жыл бұрын

Ankstuh H I played SWTOR for about 10 days then went back to world of warcraft.. it’s a shame there will never be a Kotor 3

@khm8910

6 жыл бұрын

Tony 3.7 I know, and it’s not like it would be hard. Just take the story content from the MMO (The game’s storylines is pretty much a game for each character). Change the gameplay mechanics, and you have KOTOR 3-10.

Probably my favorite video by this channel yet

I'm so happy to see a resurgence of appreciation for Sith Lords. Appropriately dark and thought provoking like empire strikes back, what many people didn't receive from the prequel trilogy. However I'd like to remind people that star wars was originally for children. So the films need to be made in a way that everyone can appreciate, which is very difficult these days. Fingers crossed we get expanded remakes of these games.

@kevintran8539

6 жыл бұрын

John Cody I just wanted to say that Sith Lords are actually fairly complex in the Prequels. Anakin falls to the Dark Side doing what I think most of us would do given the situation: Protecting the ones we love. It isn't portrayed in the best way, granted, but that grey area between good and evil is still present and evident in the Prequels.

This turns into a force awakens hit piece half way through

I'd say that my favourite character in TLJ is Kylo, he seemed to have so much actual conflict and development

This video is beautiful!!!

Pronounced Koe Tore

@aw7245

6 жыл бұрын

deadeye1392 it's a acronym so saying the letters is technically more accurate

@jayferguson9968

6 жыл бұрын

Then, it's *an acronym. If accuracy's what you're after. :)

@leonkillsashley9475

6 жыл бұрын

I don't usually do this, but this is a personal pet peeve of mine. Do you say L A S E R, or do you say LAY-zer? Is it S C U B A, or is it SKOO-bah? Both laser and scuba are acronyms, therefore they are pronounced as a word. If the letters were pronounced separately (such as FBI, CIA, UFO, etc.) it would be called an initialism. Whether KOTOR is an acronym or an initialism is really unimportant, but every time I've heard the creators speak of it (Chris Avellone, Feargus Urquhart, etc.) they have pronounced it as if it was an acronym (KOH-tore).

@dim-flower

5 жыл бұрын

A W Grammar nazi alert Acronyms can be pronounced like NASA, NATO, or KOTOR initialism is pronounced using the letters like FBI or CIA So he was right

When I first saw Kylo Ren I thought he was Revan.

No mention of the assassin droid he was a great character.

Now I miss KOTOR and KOTOR 2. Just the music alone makes me nostalgic. I would have liked to see an Old Republic movie, before Disney took over the franchise.

I cant believe that this video made me appreciate kotor 2 even more. And hate starwars 7 more!

interesting video. I am not a gamer as such. But I love star wars, and found the last new movie just evoked nostalgia, rather than being a fresh new take. INFP here....

@khm8910

6 жыл бұрын

Get KOTOR and KOTOR 2. You can get it on Mac and PC, and it plays like an old school school RPG

Wow... Your speech is very well said. though I do have some hard time to follow through your words as they are very uniquely placed. How do you manage to word them out as you did?

This game changed the way I view my choices in life not even gonna lie

@tastynottasty3314

6 жыл бұрын

For me too

That was brilliantly done and well thought out and I totally agree with you but it is sad that the amazing content in the star wars games, comics, and books will never see the big screen cuz that would be incredible and blow my mind as I nerd gasamed over the sheer beauty that is God like story telling come to life in such a monumental way but sadly it will probably never happen😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😖😤😒