You go way outside the mainstream. That's what makes you channel great!

@VisioRacer

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate it! Thanks

@cdjhyoung

2 жыл бұрын

I hardly agree. Great, great content you don't find anywhere else.

@rifkyfahrana1141

2 жыл бұрын

Besides that. He always compiling best sounding sounds so we don't have to search them one by one ourself

@llucjofre

2 жыл бұрын

+1

@JC-zg4xe

2 жыл бұрын

@@rifkyfahrana1141 Even better when you see the exact same truck in person and recognise it from a Visioracer video haha.

"my tractor won't start" "is it out of gas?" "what do you mean, it runs on diesel!" "but the starter motor runs on gas"

@davidsignor7931

2 жыл бұрын

Had that happen in the field quite a few times with a 720 the tank only held about a quart of gas

@navelriver

5 ай бұрын

Sometimes irony can be ironic.

I love the sound of an inertia starter. It's what they used for the sound effect on the Millennium Falcon when the hyperdrive wouldn't engage, so always carries a bit of suspense for me. Hearing big diesels start is awesome too, like locomotive and power plant engines.

@jamesgeorge4874

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you pointing that out, it seems glaringly obvious to me now, especially because it sounds like failure, until that double row wasp belches a little smoke, and comes up on two rows of odd cylinders music, making perfect harmony.

@craigmclean8260

2 жыл бұрын

The sound was also used for the Tasmanian Devil cartoons!

@jamesgeorge4874

2 жыл бұрын

@@craigmclean8260 damn. You are correct. I don't even have to confirm that, audio files in my brain have already acknowledged this as the truth. Preach Craig McLean. The taz almost sounds like a magneto off, clear flood sound to me, although it could be looped, thank you for opening my eyes.

@SAPD.

2 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of the tractor my grandfather had. Good old vladimirec t-25

@ffjsb

2 жыл бұрын

@@craigmclean8260 That's what I was thinking as well.

I would have liked to see the shotgun cartridge starter again!

@skylined5534

2 жыл бұрын

I think I first saw that featured in the original Flight of the Phoenix as a kid!

@bill3641

2 жыл бұрын

The Field Marshal tractor , right ?

@TommyWylie

2 жыл бұрын

@@bill3641 Yep.

I always loved the sound of the old mopar starters in the 70s and older. You could always tell when a mopar was cranking over

Pony motors we're almost REQUIRED on those John Deere up in the north US, especially if you were using it for other duties besides seasonal field work. You either kept it in a heated shed or lit a fire underneath it if you had an electric start and needed to start it in the sub zero temps.

@jamesgeorge4874

2 жыл бұрын

And pony pre-heated that diesel intake, also.

@RJ1999x

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesgeorge4874 preheated the intake and also circulated warm water around the diesel

@jamesgeorge4874

2 жыл бұрын

@@RJ1999x yup.

@randymagnum143

2 жыл бұрын

Funny, Detroit Diesels started easily in nearly any weather. Maybe Deere, Cat, and Ih should have licenced Shephard diesel?

@jamesgeorge4874

2 жыл бұрын

@@randymagnum143You should start a kinda tired TIB 6-71 in -5 degree weather.

Anyone that's ever heard a really, really big motor start on air knows that this is not a desperate video idea! I really enjoyed it. Many of the off-road trucks in surface mining used air start. As well as most offshore boats. By the way, offshore crew boats would definitely be a video in itself. Some of those big beasts are absolutely amazing.

@Devilacme

2 жыл бұрын

Standing next to Wärtsilä 16V46 while it is started up with pressurized air is a great feeling.

@MedusalObligation

2 жыл бұрын

A pair of V-12 Supercharged Cummins with Air Start on our 83' Utility Boat in the 70's. What a glorious noise! (And 2 2-56 or 2-53 I don't remember which powered generators. All that in a steel engine room was deafening even with muffs.)

A Mack air starter was our alarm clock, on a construction job, 35 years ago.

Maybe a list of coolest kickstart bikes? Or hand crank start cars?

@alexzeyos

2 жыл бұрын

Great idea , i agree

@_JosKO_

2 жыл бұрын

YESSS PLEASE!!

@crazyyoutubeuser2444

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yessss

@jamesgeorge4874

2 жыл бұрын

For sho.

@michaelharrison1093

2 жыл бұрын

I can still remember years ago watching a guy kickstarting a large displacement Vincent motorcycle which was quite temperamental and kept on kicking back

That whine of a Mack before it started back in the day was a massive “hold my beer” moment

I like the sound of big engines sputtering to life. And i especially LOVE the sound of inertial starters. The whine of the flywheel struggling against the compression of the engine has something that draws me to it.

You missed the coolest one - A Coffman Combustion Starter - most notable from the dessert place scene in Flight of the Phoenix

@danielsugarman7547

2 жыл бұрын

I have never personally seen a Coffman starter, but in all the youtube videos that show it, the engine starts with the first cartridge, even the one that's 40 years old. Makes me wonder if the starting sequence in Flight of the Phoenix was more Hollywood than reality. Also, the place that has no water is the desert. Dessert is pie a la mode after dinner.

Love the inertia starter. I remember watching a couple of guys starting a tank with one of those, just cranking up up gradually for about 5 minutes...then pull the pin to engage the flywheel and the huge engine leaps into life. :-)

@aussiebloke609

2 жыл бұрын

@@alfabeech I think it was a Russian tank...but there's a lot of them with crank starters, i suspect.

That rorty little John Deere petrol V4 roaring away like an early VTEC to start the big diesel twin-cyl is fun! The spring starter system is something I never saw before, so simple but by the looks of it damned effective since those were some big engines they were attached to. Good for folks building apocalypse vehicles too!!

Brings back a lot of good memories with my dad. He has a Mack B-85 that was a former fire truck with the 711 Thermodyne in it (it only has the standard electric starter), and a John Deere 70 diesel with the V-4 pony motor.

I particularly love the sound of inertia and air starters!

I loved the John Deere v4 pony motor. I was young last time I saw one, not realizing how cool it was. Now I kinda want one.

I used to work on and around marine EMD 16 cylinder 645s that had a pair of air starters each. It was a lot of fun bringing those big mamas up from cold iron, and by the time they were idling, the air starter motors were caked in frost.

I loved this one! Especially the air start Mack. The JD V4 pony starter motor has potential for other uses!

@vintageyamahasquid

2 жыл бұрын

I can’t find anyone that has made a motorcycle out of one. Would an interesting bike.

@randymagnum143

2 жыл бұрын

They cost more to overhaul than the main engine. They were frail and finicky.

@upsidedowndog1256

2 жыл бұрын

@@randymagnum143 My favorite kind of machines then. I love to work out "the bugs" on old engines. I do aircraft engines for my day job but love to work on old engines in my free time.

@DFX2KX

2 жыл бұрын

That V4 would make for a fun soap-box/go-kart engine, just for laughs.

@StewsChannel

2 жыл бұрын

@@randymagnum143 Very true! We had a JD730 waay back and it had the V4 pony motor (though we called it a pup motor?). It grenaded twice on us and cost a small fortune to repair. The second time it went we actually got rid of the tractor. Too high of rpm for the construction of it, if I remember correctly I think it threw a rod both times.

Inertia start is definitely my favourite out of these

I used to think the Mad Max 2 truck just had a funky sound effect for the starter, but to know that was actually the sound it made is soooooo much cooler! 😃

@kingduck3192

Жыл бұрын

That’s why there is a big cloud of dust when it starts all the air flowing through the air starter. It is just like a big air impact wrench motor instead of an electrical starter motor.

I love to hear the sound of an old air starter!

So many thanks to YOU VR, for your outstanding work!!; I myself, (Old School MD/ ER / ICU), cannot imagine our world without ICU engines, very specifically, diesel / turbo.diesel ones. (Just gotta love old Detroit 2.stroke ones, as well as newer Cummins ones..). Thank you kindly & many Blessings to you & family!!. 🤗🙏🙏🙏🙏

I had an inertial starter on the first DHC Beaver I flew up north, the passengers loved the sound of it!

The starter motors on the 5.3 L lm7 in the chevy silverados from around 2005 have my favorite startups. They're just consistent and remind me of my childhood

@realityhurts8697

2 жыл бұрын

When super cold ya get the wrap wrup start lol as it torqued that crank over

That inertia setup is pretty interesting. I can see why it’s used for movie sound effects.

@dejjal8683

2 жыл бұрын

I think the German Panther had the same setup, took two guys to get the flywheel spinning.

I love the sound of an air starter. I worked at a place where all the trucks had air starters, hearing them never got old.

I loved the "clink clink" sound of NASCAR motors starting up

I love the Shvetsov starter Sound. Its just so out of this world.

Potential energy and kinetic energy. Springs, air pressure, electrical, supplemental engines, rotating flywheels. All pretty cool stuff.

I'm really glad you included some electric inertia starting radials this time. They are some of my favorite, The Pratt and Whitney R-985 in particular.

I have to agree that I like both the sound of inertia and air starters. Spring starters are pretty cool too but no 'sound' to speak of. Thanks for sharing.

You know I’m a motor head if I’m watching a video on starter motors! Lmao love your videos bro been watching for a long time

Holy shit! That's our red Mack! Thank you for including one of our videos in your own! That's cool!

I have no idea early German jet engines used two-stroke engines as an APU! Thoroughly researched and musically pleasing to my ears!

The starter noise of the Mack truck is so nice. It reminds me of the bus I used to get on as a child. My bus stop was at the end of the route so I would always catch the driver on their break and she would let me on the bus while her break was going. And I was get on the back of the bus and wait for it to start up. Nice maybe these buses had Mac engines cuz they sound exactly like this

i love the sound of the John Deere V4, looks very interesting engine by itself

@carsondaly1521

2 жыл бұрын

A little v4 to start a 6.8l 2 cylinder. Definitely a unique to John Deere setup.

@peterzpictstube

2 жыл бұрын

@@carsondaly1521 JD 2cyl is one unique beast the greatest achievement in their 2cyl era. While the were creating their greatest tractor ever the 4020. Which they never looked back after.

Visio, your willingness to go further into details that most channels overlook, makes you unique and very interesting. And your interest in the aural aspect of engine-dom makes it very interesting for me personally. The sound engines make gives them life and character, most people don't think of this. Again thank you for what you do.

Been here for years and never doubted you'd run out of material. This starter motors was extremely interesting.

Many of the oldest caterpillar diesels started with a pony motor and also, the John Deere model R used and opposed twin pony starter motor. It had its own unique sound. Wonderful video as always!

@carsondaly1521

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely a unique sound. I have a D2 cat that has a pony motor. It is even a more unique sound when it starts knocking. I took it apart and found a broken rod cap.

I love the way the Suzuki Jimny Stater Motor sounds.

That two stroke petrol sound coming from that dozer is hurting my mind.

My dad's JD 70 Diesel has that V4 pony motor. Always loved the sound of that motor, it sounds so furious!

I doubt you'll run out of ideas. There is a vast variety out there as we are learning from you! Thank you!

thank god im not the only person who appreciate starter motor sound, especially those BMWs R9T/R1200R/R1200GS K50s electric starter motor

The SR-71 Blackbird had twin Buick Nailheads on a cart for a starter. 14 liters just to get its jets spinning. I love it.

Propeller-Planes usually have sweet sounding starter motors. My dad's 1975 Piper Cherokee Warrior has a 5.4L Flat-4 engine and it sounds *awesome* whenever he starts it up.

My old E34 530i V8 had that "spool up" starter sound which was awesome

Visio racer running out of ideas??? Never!!! I love your passion for engines, keep on going.

In your own way you are TOPS on giving us technical info mostly forgotten bringing back beautiful memories of days gone by. Thank you very much for something appreciated a lot from a South African Boer.

@keenan3201

2 жыл бұрын

Lekker tjomma! Nice to see another south african here🇿🇦

I just found this and I love it. To hear an engine start is just awesome thank you.

I like this channel because it doesn't have any clickbait

Very good sir. My grandfather had a rear engine riding mower that had a wind up spring starter. From early 1970 The only type missing from your engine starting types is the Shotgun shell starter. Insert shell, close up and strike with a hammer.

We need more starter videos. You're doing a stellar job!

i dont know why, but i absolutely love the starter motor sound of a 12th gen f150. maybe it's nostalgia or something, but it's just so good.

Spring starters were also used in the tiny Cox engines, which were as small as .010 cubic inches, but more commonly .049 cubic inches. There was a spring around the shaft with a hook on it, and you'd hook it around the propeller, turn the engine backwards a couple of times, and release.

Sweet, sweet sounds! All music to the ears.

You know When i learned on this very channel that there was a tractor engine that used a shotgun shell to start it I was impressed by that info, cheers from Ecuador :)

I love the diferents sounds of engines started

This channel just gets better & better. Love the engine start videos. And everything else that comes with it!!! Keep up that excellent content!!!

That inertia starter lol, straight out if star wars. Love it

Now this... Is one I was hoping for!! I don't know if it's weird, but I love starters and the differences about them. Thanks for the awesome video, VisioRacer!

Nice that you included that movie scene of an air start! I thought immediately about that scene 😁

This is definitely one of the most interesting videos you produced! Great job. That Russian inertia starter was definitely my favorite. Very sci Fi!

This video dug up another v4 layout engine, one of the best sounding layouts!

The pony motors on the John Deere tractors are super rare. I have started a 820 diesel with one and it is a process for sure.

Love the V-4 Pony Starter. Genius.

Visioracer has taught me more than college

Not a "desperate " video at all. Your videos are some the best on here. Keep doing what your doing. I love watching your videos. As a petrol head. ALL your videos keep me well entertained. So thank you and keep up the great work. Looking forward to many more.

I worked on General Electric MS5001 gas turbine generator sets all over the world decades ago. They were about 18 to 24 Megawatts each. Many had ''black start'' capability where there was no external power in the entire region. When these were called to start, a 600 horsepower Detroit Diesel 12V71 twin turbo engine provided the cranking of the gas turbine. When Start was selected, the diesel would crank over and idle for about 20 seconds. Then it would go to full throttle for about 5 minutes. The Detroit Diesel ran through a TwinDisc torque converter and drive the turbine compressor end with a jaw clutch. The diesel cranked to 20% speed, the fuel was turned on and ignited, then the diesel would assist driving the turbine past 50% speed and accelerate to 100%, or 5100 RPM. The turbine shaft would disengage as the speed built up, then the diesel would go to idle cooldown and shut off. Listening to a V-12 two stroke diesel delivering 600 horsepower was delightful.

Weird The first starter motor video really inspired me about starter motors

I recall a series of vids of the International Harverster DIESEL dozer with a compression lever that changed the ratio, making the engine able to run on GAS and using just car-like battery to start. It had distributor, sparkplug coil and for the diesel, a mechanical injetion pump. Once it was on temperature, they push the lever to change the compression ratio. The engine running on gas had enough power to move the machine. Not to operate it, just to move it. Pretty clever also, one engine for all.

@carsondaly1521

2 жыл бұрын

The 4 cylinder gas that was used in the M was able to drive when running off only 1 cylinder.

That JD v4 sound so good 👍 sounds like an old sport car from the 60s

Definitely the best and most educational video of pony motors in KZread👌

@VisioRacer

2 жыл бұрын

I am planning a separate pony motor video in the future. Thanks, though

You make great videos. Please keep making such interesting content! I live the sound and sights of engines starting.

I have just been working on a hard to start engine and your video suggested some alternatives. Fantastic!

In 1948 there was a motorcycle engine that was used for the Imme R 100 motorcycle. But before that, in order to circumvent the Control Council Act, it was used as a starter motor for a MAN tractor.

I love starter motor sounds.

There is the twin Buick starter V8's for the SR-71 aircraft, the old Chrysler gear reduction electric starter for their engines, and the tiny spring starter for the Cox .049 model airplane engine.

I loved the spring starter. Just flip a lever and the engine is running. Requires a reliable engine tho. Cause if it doesn't start you'd probably be standing there winding up the spring several times. But all in all the inertia starter is best. Gives the Antonov An 2 its lovely sound.

i might be biased but i think the starter in my 1991 rx7 is one of the coolest car sounds ever.

you NEVER cease to amaze me man,....ALWAYS something cool and new to me, and i am a gear head...i wrote this comment before the ending of the video,....lol,...that was weird,...you do never run out of ideas man.

My dad has a campervan, and I have fond memories of him trying to start it and the sound of the starter motor before finally bursting into life

So glad to see another one of these!

I love vids like these because I used to be a heavy duty mechanic for a shop that maintained and restored old farm/construction equipment and I've worked on plenty of equipment with cool types of starters. My favorite is the shot gun shell starter👍

A starter system I always found interesting is the gunpowder cartridge start used on some jet engines like the B-57 bomber. Other aircraft used this system for piston engine also I believe.

Your absolutely correct, the start is the best part. Keep up the good work

Great video! As others wrote I missed the Coffman Starter, a small turbine power by gunpowder, but it might be difficult to find any engine nowadays. There are different types compressed air starters. In bigger engines (ships) one or more cylinders are switched to compressed air for starting instead of using a starter motor.

DT 75 also had its starter motor hooked up to its cooling system. With very cold russian winters, it made the 6.3 diesel usable and prolonged it longevity.

Decades ago I took the idea of a relatives 730 JD with the pony motor and applied it to grandad's stationary Blackstone engine...well sorta, I put a 3 groove pulley on his tiller and cut a hole in the cover so one groove was convienantly sticking out and he could run the tiller over to the engine which was used out from the garden anyway for his mill and run a belt from the Blackstone to the tiller and pull back on the tiller to apply pressure on the belt until the Blackstone finally fired off then push the tiller few and remove the belt, it worked like a charm I use to be so fascinated with that ol Blackstone I'd absolutely love to have it or one like it, a passerby made dad a very generous offer one day and he sold it when I was a teen ,grandad would keep all his oil from oil changes in a barrel and he had a mix he liked of mostly used motor oil slightly diluted with kerosene he ran in that thing it was the most simple basic concept you could imagine

I didn't realise you'd done another video about starters. I love the sound of just about all these, especially the Mack air starters and the inertia plane engine starters! I remember rewinding that bit in Mad Max 2 where he was starting the Mack tractor unit over and over as it sounded so good! I believe that system could also use air tyre pressure to start, nifty! Thanks for your great videos, always informative and interesting!

Very impressed you remembered the Jukers jet engine starter. Great content, keep it up.

Yes, let's listen together!

Imagine putting the tiny John Deere V4 engine on a bike or go kart. So cool

I've always loved the sound of a 2stroke Detroit Diesel starter, very distinctive.

jeden slovák velí všetkým... dobrá práce..

The radial wind down starter always sounds cool

Just keep making videos Samuel ! You are doing just fine !

All US market Hondas in the 1990's had awesome sounding starter motors

The combination of two of the systems in the video also exists. One is a pony engine which charges air cylinders for the startup of the main engine is used on many ships. The other I know is the Ruston & Hornsby 165DS shunter locomotive I worked with, that used a 1 cylinder pony engine to start the 6-inline diesel, the pony engine had to be started with a heavy hand cranked wheel. You had to spin up that wheel and when it spun fast enough you had to engage a dog clutch to start the pony engine, so this is an inertia starter and safer than a direct hand crank start as you have your hand off the crank when you engage the wheel with the engine. When the pony engine was running you could start the main engine with it. Because the main engine also had a manual oil pump to bring oil into the engine before starting and a manual fuel pump to fill up a header tank from which the engine was gravity fed you could start it without having a working battery. The loco had an electric system to run lighting and the instrument panel, and an electric fuel pump and stop valve which took over once the engine was running