The Best Seiko Diver for $400 Is a Lorier Neptune?

It features a Seiko movement but that is where the similarities end. This watch is no copy of a Seiko Monster or Sumo. It is something completely different and features vintage features along with a superior case and bracelet. Join me for a quick review.
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  • @Billeh556
    @Billeh5565 жыл бұрын

    Dude so stoked you are reviewing this! Best diver under $500 without a doubt in terms of design

  • @jessepearson557
    @jessepearson5575 жыл бұрын

    Excellent review, thanks for this - very thorough and helpful - looking forward to receiving my Lorier in Feb - great points about the accessibility of a 39mm watch, completely agree!

  • @jamesmcnary4939
    @jamesmcnary49395 жыл бұрын

    You say that you feel that a lot of love and care went into it. Based on the emails the Ortega’s send to their customers, I would say that you are right. I’m excited about mine, hate the wait.

  • @socrispy7114
    @socrispy71145 жыл бұрын

    I love the Seiko nh35 movement, I have it in a couple watches I own and it keeps incredible time compared with some of my swiss watches with ETA movements.

  • @varanid9

    @varanid9

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, my Seiko Samurai keeps better time and has a longer power reserve than my Rolex and Breitling. I'm starting to think that these people that make big deals over in-house vs ETA, Seiko movements vs Swiss, etc. are full of shit.

  • @acftmxman
    @acftmxman5 жыл бұрын

    Anthony, my brother, another great review. I agree with the build quality on the case and bracelet. With the large triangle markers at the 12-3-6-9 positions, the dial looks more balanced. So I’m glad there is no date. If I were to be nit picky, I would prefer a flat sapphire crystal. But then that would take away from the cool retro look of the watch. It really looks like a nice piece. Thanks for another great review. All the best-Mark

  • @jpdavis6042
    @jpdavis60425 жыл бұрын

    You hit it out of the park, JA. on this review. Seiko should take a design cue from this piece. As an owner and fan of the Speedo and circa 80's datejusts, these Plexiglass crystals have their charm.

  • @surfitli
    @surfitli5 жыл бұрын

    Seiko does need to step up their game. I have several Seiko’s. There finishing and design is great but lack many features that most micro-brands have for the same price. Seiko doesn’t use sapphire., machined clasps, or ceramic bezels on any of there 4r15 watches. They use pin and collar braclets , which are a pain to size. They also have yet to do a fully lumed Bezel. Theis watch reminds me of the Borealis Sea Storm V2 that was recently made available on pre-order. Has a very similar bracelet. It is 42mm wit a sapphire crystal, and is basically a homage of an 1950s Fifty Fantoms. Also, the NH35 has a date feature, the NH38 is the no date version. They chose just not to have an cut-out on the dial. Great review

  • @keithshwalbe6981
    @keithshwalbe69815 жыл бұрын

    Great review as per usual Anthony. I really like this watch, and for pretty much all the same reasons that you do. Many thanks for posting this.

  • @jefferyneu3915
    @jefferyneu39155 жыл бұрын

    A plexiglass crystal is actually more shatter resistant than sapphire. That is why NASA specified they wanted a plexiglass crystal. A shattered sapphire crystal in a weightless environment would be a disaster, possibly ending with shards in someone’s eye. The deficit of plexiglass is how easily it scratches. Cool watch, but I would have to polish plexiglass every single day.

  • @JANTHONYCHANNEL

    @JANTHONYCHANNEL

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the insight!

  • @mountainhobo

    @mountainhobo

    5 жыл бұрын

    "A shattered sapphire crystal in a weightless environment would be a disaster" -- Well, I will have to make sure I limit my trips into outer space.

  • @TankEsq

    @TankEsq

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yah I see the reasoning. As a tool watch a scratch is fine and a break is not if you're 100 meters underwater and bump your wrist on a....(insert fun underwater adventure item here...)

  • @RedPillVegan

    @RedPillVegan

    5 жыл бұрын

    I knew somebody would points this out

  • @thomaschristopherwhite9043

    @thomaschristopherwhite9043

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dude, do you wrestle bears for a living? Why would you have to polish a plexiglass crystal everyday? It's plexyglass not jello.

  • @coldflu
    @coldflu5 жыл бұрын

    Nice review on this Houston based micro brand. They opened up pre-ordering yesterday for the next wave.

  • @deltropico7
    @deltropico74 жыл бұрын

    I dig the end link design choice, it makes for a true 38mm lug to lug. Some oyster style and integrated bracelet designs add extra millimeters that are not visible on paper case measurement stats. Great content as always, congrats!

  • @sk8parj
    @sk8parj5 жыл бұрын

    I own the Neptune Gilt, and absolutely love it! Keep up the good work. 👍

  • @Theo-jw6hz

    @Theo-jw6hz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sk8park- J that watch is the dream!!!

  • @malbug
    @malbug5 жыл бұрын

    Great looking watch. Can’t find it available anywhere though.

  • @jnelly814
    @jnelly8145 жыл бұрын

    I really want one of the Gilt versions of this, but they aren't selling them anymore :/

  • @HarryUnchained
    @HarryUnchained5 жыл бұрын

    I actually don't mind a seiko nh35 but at $400, there's also many that offer miyota 9015 which for me is in the same league as eta 2824 and 6r15. despite that, i really like the overall look of this watch and i'm waiting for the 2 gen order to open. i guess sometimes you can't just judge the watch by its movement. one more thing, i always prefer seiko's pin and collar than screwed in links, they are more secure and actually easy to adjust.

  • @joe12524
    @joe125245 жыл бұрын

    Amazing watch I have the black & white one.👍🏻

  • @kevinsantiago5787
    @kevinsantiago57875 жыл бұрын

    Any play in the rotating bezel?

  • @alnadaf
    @alnadaf5 жыл бұрын

    Great upload! You need to experience the Armida A6........

  • @varanid9
    @varanid95 жыл бұрын

    Damn! I had succeeded in convincing myself that I didn't really want this watch, then, I had to come across this video!

  • @FatherVampire
    @FatherVampire5 жыл бұрын

    Bought this lovely watch (the Neptune Blue, Version 1) for my wife...and we BOTH wear it and love it. It hits all the right notes and truly is the best microbrand watch out there. So glad I was able to snag one of these beauties before they were discontinued. So don't like the design changes in the V2 model with its larger dial and almost non-existent rehaut that ruins the perfect vintage vibe of the original.

  • @cmiller7299

    @cmiller7299

    4 жыл бұрын

    Much prefer the generous dome of the V2, and the more proportional/larger dial. Couldn't disagree more!

  • @drzaius844
    @drzaius8443 жыл бұрын

    I can’t decide between this and the Baltic Aquascaphe diver. Obsessed with this and losing my mind.

  • @denisdes7
    @denisdes75 жыл бұрын

    "Getting a watch with this kind of presence is usually a multi thousand dollar proposition". Whoa, you sound like you're new to the game - which I well know you aren't! Nice video as always, competent watch (it's been on the radar for some time) and I agree with you regarding the bracelet but I think Seiko and a few other brands will somehow survive this one and live to tell.

  • @paulbrady701
    @paulbrady7015 жыл бұрын

    Hi J A thumbs up from you and the quality of the bracelet and the overall look of the watch and then be told it’s cost ,I don’t care who’s name is on the dial I would certainly have one.what a beautiful piece for under £300 it’s one of them deals you can’t walk away from. Thank you for sharing my friend.Take care.👍🏻

  • @rogerl7533

    @rogerl7533

    5 жыл бұрын

    "its cost", not "it's". If you don't know why, look it up. "Whose", not "who's". "One of THOSE deals", not "them" deals. But, who am I kidding? You weren't interested in grammar during any of your five years in the seventh grade; you're likely interested now.

  • @paulbrady701

    @paulbrady701

    5 жыл бұрын

    Roger L fuck off,

  • @MarcraM82
    @MarcraM823 жыл бұрын

    great review

  • @KakashiHatake-ou7mp
    @KakashiHatake-ou7mp5 жыл бұрын

    Interesting Hour hand. Usually don't see a smaller size hand like this on a diver

  • @Dixie9mm
    @Dixie9mm3 жыл бұрын

    Great value on this one.

  • @markplayford5836
    @markplayford58365 жыл бұрын

    WOW got to say that I did not think my Helm (another micro brand) could ever be beaten but this runs it very very close. It has the correct dimensions although I did not catch the thickness? But it's got style in spades the dial the bezel even the lack of crown guards and oversize just work SO well. Don't miss the date either or the lack of sapphire glass as the dome plexy works too. Swore that was it for my diver collection but now...

  • @JANTHONYCHANNEL

    @JANTHONYCHANNEL

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, everytime I think I'm done I get pulled back in.

  • @markplayford5836

    @markplayford5836

    5 жыл бұрын

    Good to know it's not just me 😬

  • @triples4good
    @triples4good5 жыл бұрын

    very nice watch. I have the black dial with gilt hands. It punches WAY above it's price point.

  • @UnNamedTrucker
    @UnNamedTrucker5 жыл бұрын

    I like almost everything about the watch except the hands.

  • @robertmarshall7712
    @robertmarshall77125 жыл бұрын

    What do you think of the Lorier Hydra? It looks pretty similar to the Neptune but with date

  • @rogerl7533

    @rogerl7533

    5 жыл бұрын

    If the date is the only difference you can see, look more closely. Or buy clocks.

  • @robertmarshall7712

    @robertmarshall7712

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@rogerl7533 Yeah thanks for that Roger! Obviously I can see other differences but the case and overall design is basically the same

  • @menaseven9093
    @menaseven90935 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful Lorier Neptune watch with a good price.

  • @almcl9391
    @almcl93915 жыл бұрын

    Had it an eta 2824, with the margin for, would it be a better proposition?

  • @JANTHONYCHANNEL

    @JANTHONYCHANNEL

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I think the 2824 is a great movement.

  • @TheBadGuy1974

    @TheBadGuy1974

    5 жыл бұрын

    The nh35 is a $40 movement the eta is a $150 movement - something to think about with "micro brand" prices.

  • @JANTHONYCHANNEL

    @JANTHONYCHANNEL

    5 жыл бұрын

    We can pay near $1,000 for some special edition Seiko's with the 4R movement... I think that is really something to think about. That said, what something cost is never going to completely translate to it's selling price. Most things sell at a high mark up. LV, Prada, Rolex and others I'm sure have enormous margins...

  • @TheBadGuy1974

    @TheBadGuy1974

    5 жыл бұрын

    Shhh they are supposed to be great value for idiots err I mean consumers.

  • @rogerl7533

    @rogerl7533

    5 жыл бұрын

    No, Rolex watches are sold at cost. ;)

  • @1968jpy
    @1968jpy4 жыл бұрын

    Cool watch review but the Sumo you’re wearing which I own as well is king 😀👍🏻

  • @MOVEMENTiNTiME
    @MOVEMENTiNTiME5 жыл бұрын

    Beefy piece. Great for the price. Thanx for sharing.

  • @earthenjadis8199
    @earthenjadis81995 жыл бұрын

    Steinhart has screw link bracelets at that price point. So does the microbrand Borealis. Probably all comes from a decent Chinese contractor (let's be realistic). I really like this watch BUT - I hope they release a model with a date window. I love the old time divers that have the date window at 4.30

  • @patrickmorrissey2271
    @patrickmorrissey22715 жыл бұрын

    Looks nice.... 39mm is a non starter for me, but it does look nice.

  • @pibblesnbits
    @pibblesnbits5 жыл бұрын

    You should cut up the leather bag it came in and make a custom Lorier leather strap for the watch.

  • @TheSenseiKai
    @TheSenseiKai5 жыл бұрын

    Does it have over wind measures?

  • @rogerl7533

    @rogerl7533

    5 жыл бұрын

    Google Seiko NH35

  • @chillwill120
    @chillwill1205 жыл бұрын

    Looks like an Omega Seamaster 300 and Tudor Submariner had a child

  • @JANTHONYCHANNEL

    @JANTHONYCHANNEL

    5 жыл бұрын

    Haha, yeah it does doesn't it.

  • @hcronos
    @hcronos5 жыл бұрын

    Cool watch

  • @RondelayAOK
    @RondelayAOK5 жыл бұрын

    Lorier's just gorgeous. I'd go black/gilt for the dressy look, since it's a bit of a dress diver. . . Yeah, I look at Lorier and say, "yes!" and I should sell my other divers and just lump-sum invest in this as the Diver to Rule them All. BUT, I put on my Helm Vanuatu and just cannot get away from its styling. Do I need another diver? No, not really.

  • @ocb05
    @ocb054 жыл бұрын

    Indeed. Under $400, this is the best you can get as a Vintage diver. But Acrylic is a big no-no to me. I would get Baltic Aquascaphe instead.

  • @22Phanatic
    @22Phanatic5 жыл бұрын

    They are All sold out! I like it! I subscribed to their email for when they come out again

  • @JANTHONYCHANNEL

    @JANTHONYCHANNEL

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, they are sold out for a reason...

  • @dzikijohnny

    @dzikijohnny

    5 жыл бұрын

    Available on Amazon.

  • @djhungzilla

    @djhungzilla

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@dzikijohnny uh, wrong dumbass. Lorier is a microbrand and not distributed on Amazon.

  • @scottd1342
    @scottd13425 жыл бұрын

    Damn you - now I have to buy one.

  • @TheBadGuy1974
    @TheBadGuy19745 жыл бұрын

    Sapphire doesn't have shatter resistance quiet the opposite, I think you meant scratch resistance?

  • @JANTHONYCHANNEL

    @JANTHONYCHANNEL

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, thanks for the correction.

  • @Eric_Nielsen
    @Eric_Nielsen5 жыл бұрын

    If dial & bezel are aligned, yes. The best $400 Seiko.

  • @cedarcanoe
    @cedarcanoe5 жыл бұрын

    You should include Gincario in your videos!

  • @JANTHONYCHANNEL

    @JANTHONYCHANNEL

    5 жыл бұрын

    Agreed! That is the plan...he has been traveling a lot. I would have him in every video if I could. Be sure to tell him he needs to join me in my videos as soon as possible!!!

  • @giannmilanista

    @giannmilanista

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JANTHONYCHANNEL we need to finally do this! ;-)

  • @ilmostro16
    @ilmostro165 жыл бұрын

    Plexi crystals exist for exactly the opposite reason you mention, they are FOR shatter resistance. What the downside of plexiglass is is that it will scratch easier. Sapphire doesn’t scratch (in fact anything does or doesn’t scratch due to hardness) because it’s so extremely hard. Sapphire is close to diamond in terms of hardness. But the cost of that hardness (and thus scratch resistance) is that it can more easily shatter - like glass. Plexi will bend or dent slightly before is shatters so there’s some give. But because it’s much software than sapphire, it will scratch more easily. But that can be buffed out using a product called Polywatch Polish if the scratches aren’t too deep.

  • @TheBadGuy1974
    @TheBadGuy19745 жыл бұрын

    The bracelet you can get made for under $25. Why watch "guru's" think that making them from something as common as 316l stainless steel is something special always amazes me.

  • @JANTHONYCHANNEL

    @JANTHONYCHANNEL

    5 жыл бұрын

    The only reason I mention that is that there are many watches in this price range that use plated cases or crap bare metal ones. I agree that 316l is nothing special. It's the basic standard.

  • @stuartcole4845

    @stuartcole4845

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe because this particular bracelet is just about the best you’ll find in this price range. Name one that’s better Mr Expert.

  • @trevbarlow9719

    @trevbarlow9719

    3 жыл бұрын

    How did this comment get even 2 likes? 🤔

  • @bradandkarlathiessen9036
    @bradandkarlathiessen90365 жыл бұрын

    Looks like a modded Vostok, especially the domed crystal.

  • @savvylifestrategies9445
    @savvylifestrategies94455 жыл бұрын

    Good review, J. ANTHONY. The Lorier appears to be a strong contender in the sub $500 range. Personally, I am disappointed with Seiko. A number of micro brands offer sapphire crystal, excellent Japanese movements, and outstanding bracelets in the sub $500 range. I just purchased a Phoibos PY007 with those qualities for $299. Wake up Seiko!

  • @JANTHONYCHANNEL

    @JANTHONYCHANNEL

    5 жыл бұрын

    +Savvy Life Strategies yeah, sadly I agree. Seiko is my favorite brand but I feel like they have been getting lazy lately and selling average watches when they could be doing much better

  • @tomasinacovell4293

    @tomasinacovell4293

    5 жыл бұрын

    Oh I think SEIKO is WOKE to it already. Did you know that Gorilla Glass comes from the Hardlex glass technology?

  • @JeeGee114

    @JeeGee114

    5 жыл бұрын

    I had a Phoibos Wavemaster and it was a disaster. Ever since I am allergic to microbrands and stick to JDM Seiko and I am saving up for a Grand Seiko, an Omega Speedmaster and a (tag) Heuer Monaco 11. I will sell off everything eventually except for my Sarb033, the Alpinist and my Seiko 5 809.

  • @tomasinacovell4293

    @tomasinacovell4293

    5 жыл бұрын

    Marinus Antonius: Yes, good. I I just ordered some buckles and claps for SEIKO from SeiyaJapan.Com nice stuff. But please go on into the details of the Phoibos Wavemaster's failures?

  • @JeeGee114

    @JeeGee114

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@tomasinacovell4293 The bracelet screws were made of cheese. Alignment problems. And no case finishing under where the bracelet was. Also sloppy lume applied. The KZread watch channels made it look like a steal. But it was a turd.

  • @cretan911
    @cretan9115 жыл бұрын

    That is stud. And you're right...no date is cool.

  • @77cjam
    @77cjam5 жыл бұрын

    Very nice watch. Seiko do need to be careful. Whilst they are clearly doing very good business selling movements I do think they are assuming their brand and name will keep them going without doing much work themselves. Excuse the pun, but only time will tell if they are right

  • @JANTHONYCHANNEL

    @JANTHONYCHANNEL

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I agree. Seiko has the capability of producing watches at affordable prices with quality that no one can touch...they should be producing a consistently superior product in my mind.

  • @juliantakeshiquayle6193
    @juliantakeshiquayle61935 жыл бұрын

    I actually really like this watch, not a massive fan of the price =/ great job on the review though, sold it well

  • @theplasticdesert2408
    @theplasticdesert24085 жыл бұрын

    Every micro brand check list: Dive style watch: check. Homage dive style watch: check. NH35 movement: check. $400-500 USD: check.

  • @notforresale3632
    @notforresale36325 жыл бұрын

    That’s like the rado captain cook

  • @tomasinacovell4293
    @tomasinacovell42935 жыл бұрын

    That's called a "pierced" lug. ROLEX really doesn't want you to change your bracelets, that too close to watchmaking for them. Also those are pressed or forged bracelet claps, they're not milled from bar stock, just like ROLEX "Stamp Forges" them.

  • @Brascofarian
    @Brascofarian5 жыл бұрын

    Instantly, no date is a deal breaker. Why they took a 4R36 movement and neglected to include a day/date function is a mystery to me. Also there's no knurling on the crown, I watched your fingers slipping as you were adjusting it... I dunno. It all doesn't make sense to me. For the same money you can get a good 6R15 watch.

  • @Brascofarian

    @Brascofarian

    5 жыл бұрын

    also bracelet/ clasp... my OM is on a black Hadley Roma nato with orange seams now, looks great, the fact it was originally on a relatively cheap bracelet with a relatively cheap clasp just meant I wasn't too concerned about switching it out for something else and potentially spoiling the aesthetic. Getting hung up on a bracelet unless it is absolutely a major part of the aesthetic just doesn't seem to fly with me. Do you get quality at a discount because it comes with the watch? Can't the quality be matched by after market alternatives?

  • @rdor011
    @rdor0115 жыл бұрын

    Why call it a Seiko diver, implying it's a homage of some sort, if the only thing in common with Seiko models is the movement? Plenty of microbrands use Seiko movements.

  • @Dave062YT
    @Dave062YT4 жыл бұрын

    I could never wear a 39 mm,So guess some of us must be large .

  • @rogerl7533
    @rogerl75335 жыл бұрын

    Better watch for the same money? Here you go - Steinhart Ocean - much better movement, sapphire crystal, bracelet every bit as good.

  • @RabidMortal1

    @RabidMortal1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Subjective assessment there. Steinheart Ocean is a larger watch and a decidedly more modern/generic feel. The onlt onw that compares to what the Neptune is all about is their Vintage Ocean, but it;s 42mm and a whopping 16mm thick (!!).

  • @rogerl7533

    @rogerl7533

    5 жыл бұрын

    Of course, as with any watch, there's a subjective component. However, a sapphire crystal is widely regarded as superior to plexi-glass. The Steinhart's ETA movement is widely regarded as superior. Last, a number of the steinhart divers are available in 39 mm case diameter. As to which of the two watches is more attractive aesthetically, that is entirely subjective. Leaving aside that subjective component, the steinhart is, objectively, a superior watch.

  • @theplasticdesert2408

    @theplasticdesert2408

    5 жыл бұрын

    When a watch with a NH35 costs $400 it’s impossible not to find a better watch for the money.

  • @shlemp5183
    @shlemp51835 жыл бұрын

    great looking watch, hate that fuking crown

  • @paredair
    @paredair5 жыл бұрын

    ...IF you can get one. At least you can easily buy a seiko.

  • @JeeGee114

    @JeeGee114

    5 жыл бұрын

    You can also resell the Seiko easily. Try that with a Lorier or a Phoibos.

  • @ronjenkins4257
    @ronjenkins42575 жыл бұрын

    $60 gets you an NH35 in an Invicta.

  • @rogerl7533

    @rogerl7533

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, the NH35 is not a remakable movement, by any means. Not garbage, but pedestrian.

  • @varanid9

    @varanid9

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@rogerl7533 And you'd rather have an Invicta than this Neptune? Aaaallllrighty, then......

  • @theplasticdesert2408

    @theplasticdesert2408

    5 жыл бұрын

    I’d rather the $60 Invicta homage over the $400 homage from a couple guys in their mums garage anyday.

  • @cl4ssic
    @cl4ssic5 жыл бұрын

    too bad they ruined this great watch with the v2.

  • @andrei-cosmin.popa85
    @andrei-cosmin.popa855 жыл бұрын

    boring dial. Thanks for the review.

  • @Pew7070
    @Pew70705 жыл бұрын

    NH35 for $400? No thank you.