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Did exactly what you did with my orbital, but I saved one sheet of the commercially made sand paper a used as a pattern and knocked out the holes with a wad punch. Worked great.

I recently bought a sander and it isn't easy to navigate all the options, this is a good explanation which would have saved me time.

I purchased a used one as the piece is a bit pricey, but the machine kzread.infoUgkxG6fbm3cHBd7CNTjk5D-dwYe9c9tCB9ZN has surpassed my expectations. We sand small parts by hand often, sized around 1"x1/2," and specifically look for a piece that's designed to be vertical. The motor has plenty of torque and great speed settings. The only inconvenience I had is that the disk measures 5" where we trim 6" stick-and-sand disks down easily by mounting it then cutting with a box cutter.

I have a corded MacAlister from Screw fix, was the cheapest I could pick up that day thinking I'd only need it for one job... I agree, should have had one years ago! The little thing is surprisingly good...

Recently I discovered using an angle grinder for sanding is simply an unbeatable way to remove old paint and varnish from wood. Then you follow that up with a random orbital sander and you're golden.

@shegocrazy

2 жыл бұрын

Can be a bit aggressive and leave circular grooves that show up when you paint over. Ok I guess if you are careful.

@blahdiblah2169

2 жыл бұрын

@@shegocrazy That's exactly why you use the random orbital sander afterwards as second step to remove those circular grooves.

@rkerr4059

2 жыл бұрын

Ditto. Flappy disc on the grinder works great cleaning up oak staves from casks

@blahdiblah2169

2 жыл бұрын

@@rkerr4059 Up until about 3 weeks ago I had no idea you could use angle grinders for sanding. I always considered them more a metal workers tool or for cutting pipes or bricks. It's also an intimidating tool. Was trying to get about 3 layers of varnish and paint off some old garden furniture, when I took some 50 grit paper with my electric and fairly strong random orbital sander, and it did absolutely nothing. After about 5 minutes on one spot I could see it break though. In contrast the angle grinder with that flappy disk, same grit removes the paint in seconds. It couldn't come off easier. Turning a job that might take days into minutes. The disks are also firmer and just last longer making the whole operation much more cost effective. After this experience, I see that angle grinder as an essential sanding tool. Obviously it's not going to be used for fresh stock that you've just run through your planer, but for weathered wood or stuff you want to remove finishes from - nothing beats it.

I looked at many videos on Ryobi sanders, and this was the best one I found. The details you provide and the comparisons you make are realistic and practical for the typical DIYer who wants to get the most out of his tools -- and may not know much about sanders. Well done.

@CharlieDIYte

11 ай бұрын

Thanks Tony, I really appreciate that. Glad you found it useful 👊

Sanding gets everywhere in my workshop. I have the Ryobi random orbit you featured, it’s triangular brother, the Ryobi belt file, a version of the Bosch belt sander you featured plus the mains random orbit Bosch, and as stationary tools a Clark oscillating belt/spindle, and a Record disk and belt bench top machine which can operate with the belt vertical. All get used for different jobs. The one other vital ingredient is a big rubber grit declogger. Thanks for the review

I’ve had a similar sander journey to you Charlie, only I had a Hitachi palm sander (again with the sprung clips) that I did most of my sanding with, but dust extraction was non existent. A Lidl Parkside belt sander is still going strong even though the lever to remove the belt tension for when changing the belt broke, and you have to now lever the new belt into position. And if you get one of those sticky sticks for cleaning the gunk off the belt, the belts last for ages (Screwfix or Silverline sell them). But by far and away my best purchase is my most recent, Dewalt DCW210N random orbital sander. Like your Ryobi its fantastic at removing stuff and doesn’t mark the surface. I use a Henry vacuum with it but even when using it with its inbuilt sprung bag it collects most of the dust itself with no suction required. Amazing. Similar experience of going through loads of cheap sanding disks when sanding floors with it though, the disks gum up so quickly

Yep, the mortice lock trim was a life saver, thanks Charlie.

Thanks Charlie, Interesting to hear your experience with these sanders ! I have a similar collection some are the same so although I'm not currently looking to buy it's always interesting to compare experience. Totally agree on the power file not used often but occasionally the only thing for the job !

Hi Charlie. I too use rolls of sandpaper instead of perforated sheets. My particular sander, a SKILL 7314 (quite old now), came with a plastic punching plate. I'm sure you could cobble something similar together for your Bosch.

This is the sander video I was looking for. I too have the same Bosch sander and when using it the next village can hear me. I like Ryobi tools and you have now convinced me that this should be my replacement sander. Many thanks.

@CharlieDIYte

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Simon. It's a lovely little tool that random orbit sander. Worth buying decect quality sanding discs rather than the job lots you get on Amazon from Chinese suppliers. Cubitron, Trend, 3M that kind of stuff. And for some applications where you're sanding delicate stuff, place it on the surface before you switch it on so it doesn't start spinning before you've begun.

Also if you have velcro on the sander use the mirka sand sheet's on other make sanders

Further proof that you get what you pay for. Thanks for the transparency and info Charlie!

I've got the 18v Ryobi belt sander as well and their 18v version of the black and decker power file sander which I've had since they came out decades ago. I've got the Ryobi old blue version of the rotary sander. I've got carried away over the years and have a b&q warehouse full of Ryobi 18v one plus tools. So since the 1980s I've got all of those you have apart from the trend and the Bosch 1/3 sander for which I have the black and decker equivalents, except the b&d 1/3 sander from 1987 has a straight linear motion sanding action and a separate orbital action controlled by a metal lever immediately above the sanding plate. Amazing how much kit you can accumulate over 40 odd years.

Charlie you are WONDERFUL, THANK YOU!!!!

When I use a roll of sand paper cut to size rather than the designed sheets with holes in I just make holes in the right places to help with the dust extraction.

Hi Charlie Thank you for sharing From South Africa 🇿🇦

Great vid Charlie, thanks. I swear by my Makita 240v belt sander as it has has done me proud on sleepers, scaffold boards and much else. But I can see a Makita 18V random orbital sander coming my way. I agree with your comments on the trusty Bosch from way back when. Still have it in the cellar, but could never get on with it unless the target was perfectly flat - and small! Good info on dust extraction set-up cheers.

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

They're great, belt sanders, aren't they. You develop quite a skill using them over the years. Yes definitely worth adding the random orbit to your collection. 👍

My latest sander is a 270w third-sheet size finishing sander by Worx. It has variable speeds and a really good cyclonic dust collector box (not bag). Best of all Worx supply a plate with studdy things that mean you can use roll-style sanding sheets and press the studdy plate onto the bottom to make the holes in exactly the right place. Or use hook and eye sheets ready holed.

Your videos are essential for all learning DIY enthusiast's

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy. I appreciate that 👊

I have had a Bosch GEX 125 mains random orbital sander for years, 5mm throw, great tool, just replaced the backing pad after 30 years.

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

They're fantastic tools the old Bosch, aren't they. Glad to hear it's still going strong 👍

Looking forward to seeing yr vid on the bedroom refurb!

My go to sander for years is my DeWalt random orbit sander. Like you I have pretty much used it for all my sanding needs. Had to replace the base plate a couple times but small price to pay. Have to say I have a different experience with Rhiobi. I chenged my job a couple of years ago and they gave me a Rhiobi drill. That drill made me angry. Not only was it gutless, the battery died on one brick hole. I was given it new. I have been using a dewalt 14v for a good few years but this drill felt like fisher price my first drill. Maybe is was their budget drill but I thought all Rhiobi are budget. Great video as always Charlie

For the ancient Bosch (I go back that far too) make a jig to punch holes in rolled paper. Later sanders of mine, JCB, Makita, DeWalt come with hole punchers. Peter Millard on Mirka alternatives is worth watching

Great video. Very useful. Thanks Charlie

2:55 my man you can poke holes in the sandpaper, there are even sanders that come with a plastic templates to poke holes for dust extraction

Thank you. I know what to buy now. Random and orbital will work and is lightweight for use. Cheers from 🇨🇦

@CharlieDIYte

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome. Glad you found it useful, and humbled you're watching from 🇨🇦👊

I've had a Metabo random orbital sander for over 40 years. Very heavy, almost too powerful as it will easily chew through softwood as various window cills have demonstrated over the years. I've replaced the hook and eye wheel once and as you say, it will rapidly do in a sanding sheet. I always go far higher grit than usual - 180 or 240 instead of 80 or 120 for example.The sander I've been using the most lately is the little triangle attachment for my cordless multitool.

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this. WHY DIDN'T I MENTION MY MULTITOOL 🤦🏻‍♂️ I only used it a couple of weeks ago. Very frustrating. That Metabo sounds great.

Great Vid! Watched this before sanding my hardwood siding. The siding was shoddily stained on the exterior of our new house so we sanded it back to the bare wood and stained/sealed from there. Ryobi's are great (I have a drill and circular saw from Ryobi) - but I went with the Bosch random orbit sander. The variable speed is great and it does not overheat - and I am running it 6-8 a day in 90 degree heat in Oklahoma. Each pad is lasting about 60-70 square ft. but it greatly depends on what is weathered wood (facing sun, exposed to precip.) on duration of the sandpaper. I found that Honing in just the right grit and speed is important for stripping stain. Thanks CharlieDIYte!!h

@CharlieDIYte

Жыл бұрын

Fantastic work 👏👌 I think you're right to go with a variable speed, and sounds like you've invested in quality sanding belts. Thanks for the comment, and good luck with the rest of the job, best, Charlie

Nice video. Helpful comparison seeing the different projects you have used the different types for. It has helped me in my selection. Random orbital sander it is :). Nice tips on investing in good sandpapers.

@CharlieDIYte

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. Good choice! The cubitron paper is meant to be very good too.

Thanks Charlie, very informative!

I have had the Metabo D/A for many years only about 75mm dia. disc but very agile for all areas especially small blending, downside extreme vibrations in in use also 240v only. Just bought the ALDI Ferex D/A sander 150mm dia x with 8 holes foe extraction 240v but not used yet.

Used Trend sanding discs fir the first time a couple of days ago to remove grot from a second hand beech high chair for our new granddaughter. Far better than what I've used in the past. Enabled my old DeWalt corded random orbital sander do a decent job... I'd begun to look at much more expensive replacements

This video was super useful thanks, been curious about how random orbits compared with the ‘mouse’ sanders for a while now. Also information about how long the cheap pads lasted vs the more expensive ones was really good to know. 👍

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, thanks for the comment 👍

@Tobore

8 ай бұрын

@@CharlieDIYte what about small areas of a wall? Which one would you recommend?

This video couldn't come at a better time as iam wondering which type to go for 😉

Oakley is my go to sandpaper, by it by the roll and use a cheap pair of scissors to cut it as it knackers the scissors over time. It's very high quality sandpaper. I don't know if they do the discs but most likely do. I have never tried it but you can get a sandpaper rubber that cleans sandpaper and prolongs the life. Have a look for some videos, might be worth trying and seeing if it is worthwhile. It should work well on the belt Sanders and maybe the orbit Sanders.

What about dealing with small areas of a wall?

I thought I was the only one that had one of those Black, B&D electric files (The thin belt sander thing) I have had mine for years, I have found it so handy for smaller jobs and it comes in handy for sanding down things like Hanging brackets for baskets and metal gates. :-)

Would recommend getting 3M Xtract Cubitron II sanding discs, there's videos on youtube for them and they are way above the rest. They remove more wood and last longer, so they end up being cheaper in the long run and more time efficient.

Great Video. I wouldn’t personally buy a sander with a pad shape like the Trend detail sander. Reason being that, I’d be using something like that to do narrow edges or inside corners. This means that you mostly end up using the pointed end, of which that pad has only one. My Bosch oscillating multi tool has a hook and loop attachment to sand with equilateral triangular sheets, which means you can rotate the sheet on the pad, to give you 3 pointed sections. Fantastic for narrow timber door and window frames. No dust extraction, but the only machine I’ve found that did a good job on all my cedar door and window frames. Was using it again, only yesterday. 😄

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I should have mentioned the multi tool. For the life of me I don't know how I forgot this as I was using it only a couple of videos ago. I agree with what you say, except they have designed that pad with perforations so you can rotate it - something I did when I was trying to use it on the floor close to the skirtings.

@howardbecdove9780

2 жыл бұрын

@@CharlieDIYte you can buy replacement pads to fit. They’re usually universal. I bought a Diablo.

Thanks, you got any videos on buying a sliding compound mitre saw for diy use?

This was very useful.

Thanks! I have learned what a random orbit sander is from this

@CharlieDIYte

7 ай бұрын

Good stuff. 👌

Thanks. This changed my mind about buying a corded 6” random orbital sander for my back deck. It appears a cordless 5” will get the job done, and 5” is a handier size to be left with when the job is done. I’m also married to Ryobi batteries so good to know their brand works.

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. Yes, if you already have Ryobi batteries that random orbit sander is a bit of a no-brainer.

Charlie man! You're a legend!

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy. I forgot to mention my multi tool with the small triangular bit that I used here kzread.info/dash/bejne/kXito5iRYtexj9I.html but these things happen 😉👍

Awesome video thanks, it really set me in my way to a proper purchase !!

@CharlieDIYte

Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it Gino. Thanks for getting in touch 👊

thanks Charlie, really helpful video as I'm looking to purchase a sander to sand down some pergola posts (i also watched your pergola video for help!)

@CharlieDIYte

Жыл бұрын

Ah great stuff. Glad you found it useful and thanks for watching the vids. 👊

I bought the dewalt 18 v random orbital sander, I purchased this as it has a good reputation and I already had two 5 ah batteries with my dewalt drill.

Great video, really helped. Thanks!

@CharlieDIYte

17 күн бұрын

Thanks mate. Glad you found it usual 👊

Great video Charlie again. I've got a very similar collection and especially like the 18V Ryobi random orbital; it really is as good as you say. For curves and tight radius sanding I got the Triton handheld bobbin type which is really good for edges as well. Regarding the amount of cheap sandpaper you go through - try the Titan belt cleaning rubber (Screwfix around £10). It's a game changer for making that paper last easily 10x longer!

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, great tips. On the bobbin, I have a multi tool which I only used 2 weeks ago. For the life of me I don't know why I forgot to mention it in this video.

Bought a Ryobi random orbit from your previous videos - stunning - Also very very handy when decorating and need to sand back plater filling - to both save the sanding effort but more so to have the dust extraction (henry + Cyclone) attached meaning with the trend mesh disks - no mess.

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you've had similar experiences, Rob. Those mesh disks are incredible aren't they! 👍

@rjsmith26

2 жыл бұрын

@@CharlieDIYte Cheers Charlie, yes superb. Charlie I sent you and email via your gmail account re dust extraction, not sure if you rec'd - re dust extraction on ryobi trim router.

Nice video charlie, More corded tool reviews please THANKS 🙏

Thank you, super helpful!

@CharlieDIYte

9 ай бұрын

You're welcome. Thanks for the comment. 👊

Hi, I loved your video, thank you. I have a problem removing very old left over paint from wood stairs, especially in the edges where it meats the sides... any suggestions on what to do or what to use,?

Great advice! Could you please tell me which is the best sander for preparing the walls before painting ?

makita 3rd sheet sander comes with a hole punch very useful and good extraction had it for 5 years would recommend it random orbit sander bosch 150 blue range had it for 10 years just changed velcro pad it has a floating body fantastic and i have a makita 3inch belt sander i use lidl belt sanding discs when on offer so cheap and good.................also buy the block of hard rubber to clan discs saves you a fortune

hi Charlie - this was a great video and thanks for sharing. I'm now quite tempted to get the Ryobi R18ROS-0 random orbit sander but if I'm sanding doors then I'll also need something to get into the corners. Would you add the Trend Detail Orbital Sander or similar if you had your time again? i.e. if you could only have 2 sanders - would it be these?

Yup got a ryobi orbital sander neat tool. Just bought a Handife drywall sander to go with all my other sanders, you can never have enough sanders lol

Thanks! This is really helpful.

@CharlieDIYte

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome. Thanks for the comment. 🙏

Thanks very useful.

I fully agree with you. I have most like yours, but now I only use a Bosch GEX 150 AC (cabled) for very large areas and the Ryobi ROS 18V (R18ROS) for nearly everything else.

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks - great to hear we're in agreement 😉 It's a fab little sander isn't it!

@anubisthebandit5356

2 жыл бұрын

@@CharlieDIYte It certainly is👍

Is the fact you’re going through so many discs on the orbital is too much pressure causing the hook and loop system to fail? It’s happened to my dewalt 18v orbital Sander that I use for my work and Dewalt said it’s too much pressure and the hook and loop pad (not sanding paper) is consumable and replaceable. Just a thought. Just an addition, let the sander do the work and don’t apply too much pressure. This scuffs the work and puts pressure on the hook and look pad and the sanding pads. If you just “hover” about the work you’re sanding, and let the tool touch the surface, you guide it and see if that helps. It’s not just push it down towards the surface and it will sand quicker. You’ll burn through the pad and pads quicker plus you won’t get a good finish. I’ve learned this through trial And error. Hope this helps folks.

Yep, sanders are a horses for courses thing. One thing you must do, is take advantage of the dust extraction today with these things. Its amazing how well dust extraction now works with sanders, who used to be awful with dust.

Thanks for pointing out the sander discs problem that may be why I am not real impressed with my Borsch orbital.

@CharlieDIYte

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Get yourself some cubitron discs or these Trend ones. Game changers!

Superb video, cheers matey

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome mate. I just forgot about the sander bit you can put on a multi tool. Throw that in the mix too 👍

Excellent video Charlie. I have the Makita orbital sander and whilst some DIY’ers don’t think much of it, especially compared to the Mirka, it more than acquits itself for what I need it for. Plus Mirka appears to be the Rolls Royce of sanders together with the Rolls Royce price. £25 for a Ryobi body only is a superb bargain. 😃👍🏻

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Paul. Yes a few people have mentioned the Mirka. I'm intrigued and would love to give one a go.

I mainly use a corded Makita orbital and a pad for my cordless multi-tool ( after my detail sander died ) I used to use the Trend sheets then 3M Cubitron but now find 3M Xtract Cubitron II the best (IMHO)

Great comprehensive vid as usual! What’s your views on the Ryobi palm sander vs. the other Ryobis you mentioned?

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. The palm sander won't have anything like the abrasive power of the random orbit, but as I said, it's horses for courses. You might not want that power or have more fiddly areas to sand that the palm sander would be perfectly good for?

My experience with cheap sanding discs is that the grip on the back would fail before the sandpaper itself was used up and they would fly off into the distance after a few minutes. I thought i had a dodgey sander until I bought some more expensive ones.

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

Good point Mike. I haven't had that problem with those Amazon discs but they just don't last as long.

Helpul video, with the random orbital sanders how does orbital diameter affect the job as they seem to vary from machine to machine?

The B&D power file is excellent for sanding welds when working on the car. However I found the brass wheel at the end would heat up and the belts would snap frequently. I have the Ryobi random orbital circular sander and is excellent, with the Henry attached. No dust at all! I have been using the cheap ebay specials and they last well for doing my window cills. However I also have the Ryobi palm sander (equivalent of your Trend one) and the drive shaft bearings on the motor have gone with little use, just for getting into corners. I have managed to track down the motor which I think is an RS-380. Less than a fiver delivered so worth a go to repair. No dust extraction and it's noticeable.

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

Yes the power file is great for stuff like that. I also use a multi tool for getting into corners but completely forgot to mention it for some reason. Good luck with the repair. Let me know how you get on 👍

@richardjones824

2 жыл бұрын

@@CharlieDIYte I forgot about the multi tool sander. Will give that a go if the motor fix on the palm sander doesn't work. Like you I ended up buying ryobi. I find them great tools for the price. A local homebase was closing down a few years back. Picked up a few tools at half price. B&Q had the sds drill on offer for £90 with 2x 4ah batteries, another bargain. Didn't think I'd use the sds drill much as I have a heavy duty corded drill, but it has been a work horse doing my house rebuild.

I have all the types of sanders you have, I have the little Bosch belt sander. My go to is my Dewalt random orbit sander.

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Random orbit is the best. Also, I forgot to mention the triangular sander disk on my multi tool which I used only a week before making this vid. 🤦🏻‍♂️

@mrb4408

2 жыл бұрын

@@CharlieDIYte Yep, got that too. Only used a couple of times for tight gaps. 👍🏼

Thanks Charlie! I love these honest tool reviews. I immediately bought an orbital snader, but missed out on the £25 ryobi deal at "orange store". I reckon they sold out their entire stock of those about 30 seconds after you hit the 'upload' button for this video!

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks James. From what others have said those B&Q discounts are rarely in stock, more of a way to get people on the website, and I fell for it! Glad you got one though. You'll love it!

@Petertronic

2 жыл бұрын

@@CharlieDIYte I added the Ryobi ROS to my amazon wishlist a while ago and it was £54. Now it's £67. Not listed at all on B&Q. Wish I bought it earlier!

Ryobi. I agree with you,

I want to mainly use a sander for keying doors, architraves and walls. Which sander would you suggest please?

Holy Moly, I just bought that Ryobi ROS from your link, and it arrived today. (Hope you got the affiliate fee.) I’ve got the Ryobi triangular sander already, but the ROS is in a different league. The weight of it alone, even without the battery is game changing, & the stock removal is in a different league compared to an orbital. The best place for a belt sander is stuck to a bench in an upright position, for linishing, tidying up the end of machine screws, or rounding over corners of loose timber parts. The Trend mesh discs are fantastic if you’ve got extraction. Not so good if you leave the hook & loop get too warm, & you’re disc goes flying across the room away from your workpiece.

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Denis, really glad to hear you're loving the random orbit sander. It's great isn't it! Thanks for buying through the link - yes I'll get a small commission from that, so much appreciated. The mesh discs are great aren't they, and a few people have recommended the Mirka, along with 3M. 👍

What are you using to connect your shop vac to your Ryobi sanders? I've tried a few things but they either don't fit or don't stay in well and keep coming out.

Another great video Charlie! Couldn't see a mention about the sander head on the multi tool (albeit not a true sander!). 🙂

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Owain. I KNOW! Honestly don't know how or why I forgot to mention the multi tool as I was using it only a couple of weeks ago. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Useful video - thanks. Haven’t Trend sent you one of their new routers with accessories yet? All the other DIYers seem to have them !!

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

No, but then I have a decent router so I don't see the point of reviewing another one. The bits would be useful though.

I only buy makita tools. I've got a circular sander, plug in. My multi tool also sands so I'm covered. The sanding discs are OK but trend ones are decent 👍👍

Try the Mirka Dust Extraction Handy Sander Kit 80 x 230m around £40 plugged into a Henry vacuum cleaner fantastic results and the sand paper lasts ages you have to sand by hand but the dust build up in the room is hardly anything 👍

@jamesfurz7406

2 жыл бұрын

I too use the Mirka Dust Free system. Hand sanding but it's so good compared to most sand papers and last so long that I find it quicker than a power sander in many cases. Especially good if you're doing veneered furniture that a powered device might eat through the veneer, the only thing is it takes a while to work out how much you're actually sanding off as there's no dust! the £100 kit will probably see me out as a DIYer.... I'd love to try their powered range but it's too expensive for DIY, if I were trade then I wouldn't think twice about buying the full Dust Free range.

Thank you SOOO much!!!!

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome 👍

Hi Charlie - great video again - thanks for posting. Just one question. You have obviously used your Ryobi 18v ROS a lot. How durable is the hook and eye disc retaining system? Have you had to replace anything yet?

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Julian. It's showing no sign of degredation so far and in fact the discs are quite hard to pull off it. As with a lot of Ryobi, I'm impressed with the build quality and power of it, and if you already have a few Ryobi batteries I'd say it's a no brainer 😉👍

Great video. 1) I've got a powered Mikata belt sander, which I bought on offer. 2) A blue bosch cordless multi-tool with triangle attachment and 3) also green bosch powered orbital sander. 4) Grinder with a flap disc for serious sanding, like old scaffold boards. Been eyeing up the bosch blue bare orbital sander to go with my bosch batteries. Worth looking into something called orbital sander pad saver. Meant to extend the life of the backing of the pad.

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mitesh. Haven't had a problem with the pads so far but it's a good shout. Also Google "Titan abrasive belt cleaner".

@MiteshParmar

2 жыл бұрын

@@CharlieDIYte Nice one. Not heard of that before. I have seen people use a rubber hose pipe in a similar fashion to clean sand pads/paper.

Had a sheet orbital sander but was not very effective and changing sheets were awkward to fit. Had a "palm" sander from Wickes but it was very unpleasant to use with the vibration and not effective. recently got a McAllister random orbital from Screwfix as it was well reviewed - seem good to use - just need to get some more effective discs so may try your recommendation of Trend.

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

Have a look through the comments. 3M are also very highly regarded. 👍

Makita 4 inch belt sander, awesome.

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Neville 👍

a 1/4 sheet or 1/3 sheet sander is by far the best value. You can just buy higher grade sandpaper for it if you're desperate for a longer lasting sanding paper. this way you're buying standard sheets of sandpaper (or the rolls like you showed for your 1/3 sheet sander) And yes a vac hooked to the port of any of these sanders will work... just use a screwdriver to perforate the sandpaper on the face. I've used a EUR15 FS500 Black and Decker 1/4 sheet sander for years. The pads are now expensive so it's ending its useful life due to the cost of materials but the wire clip-in system for the sanding paper is plenty for all but everyday, allday sanding users.

What are your thoughts on a multi tool sanding attachments for small corner jobs?

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

Donald I'm kicking myself because I used mine a few weeks ago for this job kzread.info/dash/bejne/kXito5iRYtexj9I.html but for some reason didn't think to include it in this video. Yes it's very good for getting into tricky corners, and in fact probably better than that Trend as you don't need to angle it into the corners.

I appreciate the Festool Rotex tools are probably off-message for your channel, but the Rotex is next level sanding. If you get a chance to use one, prepare to be amazed. The RO 150 can do everything from stock removal to fine finish sanding. Also, the newer sanding meshes are even better than discs for dust extraction.

@samrix5793

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah although prefer the ets EC 150 for long use

@Mikey__R

Жыл бұрын

Which is the best Festool random orbital sander if I don't want to develop carpal tunnel syndrome?

@dwalsh3469

Жыл бұрын

@@Mikey__R I wouldn’t like to advise you on that. It’s far outside my expertise. I have the Rotex 90 and the Rotex 150. The bigger one is a real all rounder but I anticipate you’d probably be better off with a non-geared rotary sander if you think yourself prone to occupational wrist injury. Having said that, I really have no issues at all with the Rotex sanders - I think of them as miracle sanders, particularly with the granat mesh sanding discs. They require a bit of technique to use in geared mode, but not much effort on the wrist. (Not sure if that helps.)

Allow me to share my experience: Most of my electric DIY equipment is from Bosch so hereby my review on those sanders in your video. 1. Flat sander , I have the Bosch too, but the dust collector comes off easily and is full in less than a second. You need compressed air to clean it good. Instead of Bosch I buy the cheaper brand of sanding paper which have the holes for dust in them, work as good as the Bosch ones. 2. Orbital pointy sander, I buy the cheaper brands, most used sander in my collection, they last for years, I buy 2 for less than in my case a Bosch. Buy the sand paper from cheap brand, works for me, 3. Belt sander, also Bosch, great machine, makes life easy. Once in a while I take it completely apart to clean the inside too. 4. Round orbital sander, also Bosch, works great. 5. Then I also have the multi tool from Bosch with a sander head , which works fine but if your sanding paper comes off the velcro on the plate will damage in a seconds, and beyond repair, not so happy about that, lo such a unit will cost you around 12 euro. Tada

My flat sander hs-335 orbital before I strip it was working now it won't spin and I do not know what to do I tried to take off the bottom but not Sher how take cause the wires that hold the papers to the machine can help me

Will the disc stop turning if to much pressure is applied on the Ryobi? Ta

I had to check I wasnt watching the antiques roadshow! I love my makita belt sander, its sanded down a few hundred metres of floorboard for me, and yes you do tend to overuse it as a plane. on the whole I do think power sanders are a bit unnecesary as most of my woodwork i just use a round pad and do it by hand,100grit a good all round pad.

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, these days with the orbital and electric planer the belt sander has become much less necessary. For curved stuff like that headboard though it's key. 👍

Hi Charlie. Very useful video. One question. What grit do you use on mdf for eg doing the edging on a fitted cupboard before painting? I would guess P180 but not absolutely sure.

@CharlieDIYte

2 ай бұрын

It's probably easiest to just direct you to this. From memory I'd probably start on 120 and then 180 after priming but check in the vid 👊kzread.info/dash/bejne/aWpn27OgYKjbp8Y.htmlsi=G9rxypkHOmW5zK92

Have you tried the mirka discs?

Hi Charley l’ve always considered Ryobi a cheap make , but obviously I have been doing them a disservice . The fast effective removal of material was very impressive . As a side note , I still have a black and decker sander that I bought in around 1970 . They did what they called the profession range which has a black plastic body instead of the usual blue one . And ironically here we are all these years later and it’s still going, and has never been repaired . I’m afraid that would probably not be the case these days . Enjoyed the video and will remember to give Ryobi a try , as I’m thinking of getting a multi tool at some point in the future . Best wishes and kind regards as always. 😀👍👍👍

@rkerr4059

2 жыл бұрын

I've found the ONE+ range is generally brilliant value for money and can take some serious DIY/ hobbyist use. The range and variety of tools on offer is hard to beat now.

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly right. As someone put it a while ago they bought a Ryobi tool expecting it to only last a few months and now have loads of them because they refuse to die! He almost sounded annoyed 🤣

@CharlieDIYte

2 жыл бұрын

I have the multi tool too with the sander attachment but for some unknown reason I completely forgot to feature it in this video which is very frustrating!

@bread-gz3rl

Жыл бұрын

I know someone with a brushed ryobi sawzall that had a car dropped on it

Any mini sanders that are electric woukd you suggest?

Belt sander is probably the most labour saving as it can take off a lot of wood without much elbow grease.

@MiteshParmar

2 жыл бұрын

Also a grinder with a flap disc, when you really need to move stuff. Great for used scaffold boards.